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King Nebuchadnezzar

What lessons can be learned from the story of King Nebuchadnezzar that is so applicable to some leaders of this day and age?

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 ---Whisper on 12/4/07
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Duane: We are living in the End Times and the Book of Daniel was unsealed by Revelation which says "Seal not the Prophecies of this Book"

It was Revelation that unlocked Daniel and allowed EVERY Protestant founder to idenify Rome as the Beast, the Papacy as the Man of Sin who number is 666, and the Catholic Church as the Harlot sitting upon the seven hills of Rome.

Many revisionists will attempt to deny these facts to lead many astray. Denial is not just a river in Egypt.
---SeventhSeal on 3/24/08

The Prophecies of Daniels Book was to be sealed UNTIL the END TIMES!
The End Times hav'nt happened yet!
Read Matt. 24 the whole chapter & ezek & isaiah & rev. and Quit Misusing the Word of God!
This isn't my 1st Rodeo!
---Duane_M on 1/11/08

Duane: Dan9:24 "70 weeks determined upon thy make an end of seal up the vision and prophecy and anoint the MOST HOLY" Dan9:25"from going forth of commandment to restore and build Jerusalem unto MESSIAH the Prince shall be 7 weeks, and threescore and two weeks" That Command (Ezra7:7) given in 457BC. Thus, 457BC+(69x7)=27AD, Jesus Annointed (Baptized).

Your view must put AntiChrist where Daniel prophesied of Jesus Christ. Wisemen Knew Dan9 and came seeking.
---SeventhSeal on 1/10/08

The only thing that makes a man antichrist is to deny that Jesus is the Son of God!
I'll pray for your Blindness to be removed,
One thing for sure when it happens you'll know better than to take the Mark.
I forgive you for your Ignorance towards the word of God, weather or not God will, Will be up to him. you would think with someone claiming a name as 7th seal would be a little smarter when it came to the word of God. Did you go to College & lose your Smarts??? you sound like a professor.
---Duane_M on 1/9/08

Duane: No,restarting Sacrifice after the True Lamb has come is simply Antichrist. Sacrifices were restarted after the decree came in Ezra7:7 to rebuild and restore the temple at Jerusalem in 457BC, which was prior to Jesus coming "causing the Sacrifice and oblation to cease" at the Cross. These later acts you mention are simply the devils ruse to get you to forget your History and the Biblical refernces cited that mark Daniels 70 Week Prophecy which declared the First Advent of the Messiah.
---SeventhSeal on 1/9/08

7thseal, Did you know that the Isreali's have already rebuilt the instruments of Gold to perform the Daily Sacrifices again?
they also have made the robe to be worn by the preist & many other things.
And if the Stone has already struck the feet of clay w/10 toes & destroyed the statue, WHY is Isreal still a Burdensome STONE to them???
Why isn't the Lord here Ruling???
You need to reread Daniel w/ open eyes of the heart & not the intellect of your mind.
---Duane_M on 1/9/08

POWER, is what most are after. If we had some religious leaders it would be easier to get into this question. No one will give God credit that He alone deserves. So therefore any good accomplishments will fall by the way-side.
---catherine on 1/9/08

Duane: Some Interpret placing AntiChrist in Scripture declaring Jesus Christ. Please look:
Dan9:27"He shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: in the midst of the week He shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease" 3.5 yrs ministry to the Cross then Disciples 3.5 years before fleeing Judea to Gentiles

Jesus caused the sacrifice to cease at Cross. No more lambs sacrificed for sin. Yes, the AntiChrist was identified by EVERY Protestant Reformer 4 Centuries ago
---SeventhSeal on 1/8/08

You just Watch and see...
My conclusions on this matter come from 35 yrs. of studying SCRIPTURE, NOT MANS INTERPITATIONS!
How do you EXPLAIN the GROWTH of the E.U & the manner in which it rises???
Get your head out of the CLOUDS & you might be able to see whats going on!
Your Cloak has been removed & God knows your Heart, I would make sure it's in the right place!
By your interpitation THE AntiChrist has already risen? OUGH BOY!
---Duane_M on 1/8/08

Duane" The EU is not from where antichrist arises...He already arose from the 10 Toes of the Holy Roman Empire during the dark Ages. Christ is the Stone, and no other, He will destroy all nations, remove His saints to Heaven and create a "New Heavans and Earth" and establish His Mountian to rule on a renewed Earth. He is the Rock, the Stone, the Mountian as given by Scripture.
---SeventhSeal on 1/3/08

The Stone Kingdom was set up during the time of the statue kings.All Israelite kings were crowned on the Stone they were known as the people of the stone. Which Stone are they talking about? Which nation destroyed the Italians and their allies in the 2nd WWar, crushing them to dust.
---cheryl on 12/16/07

Good Job TS
You have certianly done your studying of Gods word...
It's unbelievble how somone can't see How quick the E.U(the Roman Empire) is growing, Isreal is a Nation Again under it's own control after 2500 yrs. They have never had self rule since the Babylonians destroyed them in 523 or so BC. when Daniel wrote his Book, And i know alot of people also think that NERO was the Antichrist(666), He did'nt fulfill a 1/4 of the things that the one who is coming going to do!
---Duane_m on 12/12/07

TS, I don't have a clue of what you are talking about. I was just expressing a personal opinion. I don't know about any Catholic theologians' views of Daniel, which was written about the time of the Maccabees.
---InimicusStultitiae on 12/12/07

Inimi, you provided a Catholic Counter-Protestant "definition" that does not allow the Bible to Define the Prophetic Symbolism per scripture. You may not do it purposefully but the Jesuits Alcazar and Ribera came up with an "alternative" to what Luther, Calvin, Huss, Jerome, Wyecliff, Williams and Wesley all saw as defined by Scripture, which pointed directly to Papal Rome as the "Little Horn" and Preached in every Protestant Church for 200 years.
---TS on 12/11/07

TS, blessings. You are, of course, free to believe whatever you want to, as I am. What we say about Daniel is just opinion and doesn't count for much.
---InimicusStultitiae on 12/11/07

No Inimi, Visions in Dan 2,7,9 and Rev are same events with more detail added
Kindoms came as foretold in SCRIPTURE: Babylon, defeated by Medo-Persia, beaten by Greece, defeated by the IRON empire of Rome. Rome fell to 10 Divisions called Holy Roman Empire. Rev reveals a "Beast with 7 heads and 10 Horns and among the 10 came another little horn, who helped destroy 3 horns" Fact: Vatican came up among 10 divisions of Rome, papal armies destroyed Vandals, Heruli, Ostrogoths leaving 7 heads
---TS on 12/11/07

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The ten toes are not modern Europe. That is Herbert W. Armstrong silliness. The ten toes are whoever wrote Daniel telling us after the fact about the breakup of Alexander's Macedonian empire in the 4th and 3rd centuries B.C.
---InimicusStultitiae on 12/10/07

Duane: Jesus is the Stone and when He returns at the Second Advent all nations are destroyed and swept away like chaff. The events of the Second Coming destroy the wicked and utterly desolate and break down the cities of this planet.

No Duane, the 10 Divisions of Europe show we are now in the toes for many centuries..time is short. Preaching new sacrifices in jerusalem is of antichrist.
---SeventhSeal on 12/10/07

Daniel is not strictly historical. It is mainly about the breakup of Alexander the Great's empire, and was written way after the fact during the time of the Maccabean revolt around 165 B.C.
---InimicusStultitiae on 12/7/07

The Stone Strikes the Feet of the Statue and "the Feet" hav'nt been here until the 1980's when the wall came down & Europe was United and then Brussels, Luxemburg,ect. all joined together w/ all the others until now, and it's still growing Turkey should be next..
The Stone was'nt carved out until 1948 when Isreal became a Nation Again after 2500 years of being ruled by someone else and 2000 yrs. of being scatterd all over the World.
---Duane_m on 12/7/07

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It seems if Daniel got the order right, the other is true also, The Angel told him to shut the Book that it would'nt be able to be understood until the last days, The Last Day's Hav'nt happened yet! and they certainly was'nt understood in the day's of the Romans...
---Duane_m on 12/7/07

Trey: Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome I agree with you on this order. Yet,the Stone struck the image on its feet. This is After the Roman Empire represented by the legs of Iron. History shows that Rome fell to a loose association of states (10 toes of iron and clay, Holy Roman Empire) The toe Division are divided Europe. "They (Kings/Queens) mingled thier seed" to re-unite but could not. After this the stone strikes the feet of the image and replaces it with His Mountain. We are in the last days.
---SeventhSeal on 12/7/07

Nebuchadnezzar's Dream: (part 4)

Kingdom of Heaven:

Dan 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

Christ stated that his kingdom is not of this world (John 18:36). His kingdom is a spiritual kingdom within you (Luke 17:21).

This is the Kingdom of God time period.
---trey on 12/6/07

Nebuchadnezzar's Dream:

Dan 2:32 This image's head was of fine gold, his breast and his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs of brass,

The head of gold we are told was the Babylonian Kingdom.

The breast and arms of silver are the Medes and the Persians which followed the Babylonian kingdom.

The belly and thighs of brass was the Greek empire.

---trey on 12/6/07

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Nebuchadnezzar's Dream: (part 2)

Dan 2:33 His legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part of clay.
The legs of iron and his feet of iron and clay represent the Roman Empire. It was strong like iron, yet due to it's cultural diversity there was clay mixed in. Clay and iron do not mix.
---trey on 12/6/07

Nebuchadnezzar's Dream: (part 2)

Da 2:34 Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.

The stone is Jesus Christ. Christ's coming was at the time of the Roman Empire.

Lu 20:17 And he beheld them, and said, What is this then that is written, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner?
---trey on 12/6/07

Nebuchadnezzar's Dream: (part 3)

Da 2:35 Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors, and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.

This great mountain is the Kingdom of Heaven.
---trey on 12/6/07

Duane: Very Close...Note in Dan 2 and 7, and in Rev that the visions are of the same events. The Great Image had 10 Toes and when Rome fell it broke into 10 States. Note that among the 10 horns arose "another little horn." The Vatican, the smallest kingdom in EU arose from among the 10 Divisions of the broken Roman Empire..and ruled over kings for 1260 prophetic years. The Pope "sitting in the house of God showing himself to be god"
---SeventhSeal on 12/6/07

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Duane for the reason that you have just written must be why I am getting such a STRONG feeling about this, at this particular time, as you say, I believe Revelation is now taking wings to fly.
---Whisper on 12/6/07

The fact that Daniels Interpitation can be understood now after 2500 yrs. as the Angel told him it would be in the end times & the new beginnings: The Head of Gold Babylon,The medes & Persians, Greeks, Romans & Now the Feet of Iron & Clay(Revived Roman Empire) THE E.U
---Duane_m on 12/5/07

Hi, thank you Whisper (and Trey), I'm going to be searching in Daniel tonight, God bless you both :)
---Mary on 12/5/07

I love the story of King Nebuchadnezzar.

The Lord showed him Jesus Christ - Dan 3:25.

When Neb was high in his own mind the Lord cast him down, but did not forsake him. The band of iron in Dan 4:15 shows that the Lord preserved him. The Lord then raised him up. (God knows how to deal with each of his children.)

When I read Dan 4:34-37 it gives me hope that I'll meet him in Heaven.

Lord bless you all,
---trey on 12/4/07

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Sorry Daniel 4:32........
---Whisper on 12/4/07

Mary, it is found in Daniel 4:32-34.
---Whisper on 12/4/07

Good answer. :) By the way, can someone tell me where you find how he went "mad" for a long time? I'm not sure where to find it but as a patient of mental health services myself, it means a lot to me so if anyone knows, I'd be grateful, thanks and God bless everyone :)
---Mary on 12/4/07

While there are a number of lessons can be learned, to me the most important one is, no matter how invinciable a person thinks they are, God can "knock" them down.
---wivv on 12/4/07

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