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House Of Jacob Israel Judah

What distinguishes the House of Jacob, from the House of Israel, from the House of Judah? And if you say there is no distinction, then why are they referred to individually through out scripture? Thanks in advance for all responses.

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Moderator, I attempted to post this response to Cheryl's inquiry yesterday, apparently it was submitted incorrectly seeing that it does not appear. This is my second attempt, if the first somehow makes it please disregard it. Thanks
---joseph on 12/21/07


Cheryl, Abram's covenant with the Father, was that his seed would be enumerable. His faith was attributed to him for righteousness. Abram's name was changed to Abraham with covenant that he would be father of 'many' nations (ethic groups). That covenant was not limited to the children of Judah, as the Jews. The Father's covenant was established between Abraham and his seed (by faith in His salvation) during their age, as a revolution of time, for an everlasting covenant. Cont.
---joseph on 12/21/07


Pt.2 The oath the Father swore to Abraham was that He would grant unto us (his seed by faith) that we would be delivered out of the hand or power of our enemies (sin and death) that we might serve the LORD without fear. That He would have compassion on us, subdue our iniquities, and cast 'all' our sins into the depths of the sea. For the promise that he should be heir of the world, was not to Abraham or his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. Cont.
---joseph on 12/21/07


Pt.3 Now I say, Jesus was the minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm that promise. And the scripture, concerning this, foresaw that God would justify the heathen through faith, and preached the gospel unto him, saying, in you shall 'all' the nations of the earth be blessed. Therefore, they that are of the faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. Now to Abraham and his seed was the promise made, He did not say seeds, as of many, but as of one, his, yours, and mine, Christ. Cont.
---joseph on 12/21/07


Pt.4 If you are in Christ, then you are Abraham's seed and an heir according to the promise. For it is written, Abraham had two sons, one by a bond woman, the other by a free woman. But he who is of the bond woman is born after the flesh and remains a servant. He that is born of the free woman is born of the Spirit and has become a son of the promise. The Father is not one who exhibits partiality, we are all children of the promise by faith in Christ Jesus. It is for us to embrace our inheritance. Cont.
---joseph on 12/21/07




Pt.5 Spiritually speaking, Zion is the LORD's wife, as the place on earth chosen for His personal relationship and interaction with man, to establish His throne and to dwell in the midst of His children forever. Israel is representatve His son, as firstborn of His Spirit. Those whom He has purposed, molded and prepared as vessels for His glory. Brought forth from Jacob, His servant whom He selected and feed with His word, to be empowered to embraced their son-ship. Cont.
---joseph on 12/21/07


Conclusion. The church represents the collective body of believers, whether of the house of Jacob, as servants, Israel, as sons, or Judah as worshippers of the One True God and Father of all.In Christ there is neither Jew nor gentile, we are all one. There is one sheppard and one fold. Jesus the Lamb of God is our sheppard, His wife, the new Jerusalem, is being prepared and will be clothed with fine linen. That fine linen is the righteousness of the saints and our righteousness is of Him.
---joseph on 12/21/07


Thank you Bill and Cheryl for your responses. I agree with at all you have written, I was simply wondering if maybe there was some sort of spiritual distinction being implied through the separation of the houses. However perhaps Occam's razor is the most appropriate and applicable concept concerning this. I appreciate your input. Cheryl I will respond to your question at a later date, If Bill has not responded before then, there is rarely anything I can add to any response he gives.
---joseph on 12/19/07


Hi Bill I don't know who Joseph is but perhaps you or he can tell me about the unconditional covenant God made with Abraham that the Israelites would be His people forever and if God changed His mind as we see the church(the body)claiming to be Israel(the wife).
---cheryl on 12/18/07


The house of Jacob refers to all 12 tribes the house of Israel refers to to the 10, the house of Judah refers to Judah and Benjamin. Did you know that the tribe of Benjamin went with the ten but were told by God to stay with Judah as they would be the light of the world,11 of the disciples were Benjaminites and so was Paul. The ten tribes were carried away by the Assyrians and thousands of Judah and Benjamin and Levi were taken as well,does this mean that wherever they are they are together?
---cheryl on 12/16/07




Hi, Joseph...I have an idea, but your knowledge may make you able to see if I'm correct. The man named Jacob later was named Israel. But the set of the ten northern tribes after the rebellion were called Israel. So "House of Jacob" could mean all twelve tribes, but "House of Israel" the northern ten of the rebellion...during which time Judah was the southern tribe holding Jerusalem and with Benjamin's tribe forming the "House of Judah" with the two remaining tribes. (o:
---Bill_bila5659 on 12/13/07


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