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Christ Sacrificed In Mass

Would someone explain why Christ must be sacrificed continually in mass after mass? In light of what it says in Hebrews about Christ being sacrificed once for all?

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 ---Mima on 12/12/07
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Protestants don't believe our Mass, yet never question when one of their own can magically "run pews" writhe around like a wild beast and speak in tongues with out interpretation.

Hmm?
---Richard on 1/20/08


Holly4jc on 1/10/08




Passage Hebrews 10:26:

"If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, "no sacrifice for sins is left"

Passage Hebrews 13:10:
"We have an altar" from which those who minister at the tabernacle have no right to eat.

Passage Revelation 5:6:

"Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing in the center of the throne"
---Ruben on 1/10/08


He is not being sacrificed again.It's a re-presentation of Christ's sacrifice as I said in an earlier comment.
---janet on 1/10/08


Hebrews 10:10
By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ ONCE FOR ALL.
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Romans 6:10
For the death that He died, He died to sin ONCE FOR ALL, but the life that He lives, He lives to God.

Hebrews 7:27
who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the peoples, for this He did ONCE FOR ALL all when He offered up Himself.
---Holly4jc on 1/10/08


There is no need to keep on sacrificing Jesus over and over again during mass and taking the eucharist as though Jesus is sacrificing His body and blood over and over again....the Bible clearly says...He sacrificed Himself ONCE FOR ALL. We take communion in "rememberence" of HIM and the sacrifice HE made, not as if it is His body being sacrificed all over again. He already sacified HIMSELF and IT IS FINISHED.
---Holly4jc on 1/10/08




** Jesus said " do this in Memory of me"
So it is done.
Why is it so hard to understand?**

The Greek NT word ANAMNESIS does not mean a mere mental recollection.

It means to make actually present in time that which is being memorialized.

Why is that so hard to understand?
---Jack on 1/10/08


Christ is not sacrificed in a mass, nor in any other false religion.
---Eloy on 1/10/08


Lisa, how come you only find the alleged comment in Luke? Luke didn't even know Jesus. I really doubt if Jesus said that. The problem with writers that were not eyewitnesses to the testimony of Jesus is they can't be trusted. (John 14:26) Rev. 12:17 shows that the ones who are Gods will keep all of the commandments AND have the testimoney of JESUS---not Paul, Luke or the writer of Hebrews.
---Dr._Rich on 1/9/08


Jesus said " do this in Memory of me"
So it is done.
Why is it so hard to understand?
---lisa on 1/9/08


All ::Never lose sight of the Fact, that the sacrifice of His Only Begotten son was the MOST PLEASING to the Almighty Father, this is why the Mass was introducedas a remembrance of Him & to share Himself with us in Holy Communion.
---Emcee on 1/9/08




"It's not a re-Crucifixion of Christ. He doesnt suffer and die again. IT's a re-presentation of the sacrifice of Calvary.The Mass is a renewal and perpetuation of the sacrifce of the Cross and commemorates the sacrifice of the Cross, reenacts it symbolically and mystically, and applies the fruits of death upon the Cross to indidual human souls. the efficacy of the Mass is dervied from the sacrifice of Calvary. John A. Obrien
---janet on 1/8/08


Greyrider - I do not blame Rome for my sin. I am blaming myself. This is why I repented. Sin due to my wicked nature that was NOT removed by "baptism" and remained totally untouched by all of the vain works of Rome (true for all RC's as my family and friend's lives bear witness to spiritual deadness). Rome and her lies was the vehicle used by Satan to blind my eyes from seeing Jesus Christ and the glorious gospel. I'm so sorry that you turned back from Rome after seeing the truth (Heb 6:4-8)
---ShaunT on 12/18/07


Shaun - Just to clarify things, I am not mocking you. You sound like Greyrider of the early 90's. I'm half tempted to believe that you knew me back then and are writing your posts as some kind of weird joke because they are almost word-for-word what I believed back then.
---Greyrider on 12/18/07


Shaun, reading your posts is becoming more eerie every day. I was "raised" in the RCC, attended Catholic schools K-12 and was engaged in a very sinful lifestyle. I blamed the RCC for my actions and went around preaching that the RCC was the Whore of Babylon until one day the Lord convicted me that I was blaming someone else for my sins. The scales fell away and I was finally able to see the RCC for what it really is, the Church of the Upper Room.
---Greyrider on 12/18/07


#2 As far as returning to RC, I have answered your question before where I said I will not return to eat my vomit or to wallow in the mire of sin I use to be in bondage to. I cannot help that you do not understand being in bondage to sin and being set free, or having blinded eyes opened. No, to go back to Rome would be like a blind man who had his eyes opened by the Lord take a hot iron and sear them shut again.
---ShaunT on 12/17/07


Greyrider - I love Catholics and hate Catholicism. If I didn't care, I'd be silent. Actually, my life since the LORD opened my eyes is marked by radical night/day changes where I HAVE been told by Jesus through his Word I was wrong - very, very wrong. This is why I repented, left Rome and my life of copious sin and continue to repent every day! I shared some of these changes before yet have been mocked by RC posters so I will no cast these pearls of the Lord's work to be trampled again.
---ShaunT on 12/17/07


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Shaun, I remember years ago watching a comedian take lyrics to a song and by purposely stressing the wrong words, he totally changed their meaning, and the result was hilarious. From your posts, you seem well-educated. It's hard to imagine you misunderstand these quotes to this extreme. I really have to wonder about your motivation. Do you love Truth or hate the RCC more? If Jesus Himself appeared to you, told you you were wrong, and asked you to return to the RCC, what your response would be?
---Greyrider on 12/17/07


Greyrider - You cannot see. Read the quotes. They are YOUR theologians and their writings have the seal of approval from the papacy. This is YOUR theology and it is blasphemy. Jesus is in Heaven seated on the right hand of glory and is not paraded about by your roman priests. When he comes back, it will be as lightning shining as from the east unto the west.
---ShaunT on 12/16/07


Man-made religion - please. Study Romanism which is the pinnacle of man-made religion and syncretism with paganism. Gee - even now the pope says you take a trip to Lourdes and you get time off from purgatory. Better book your flight now! You only have from Feb 2 - Feb 11. NOT Feb 1 or the 12th so you better hope for no travel delays!
p.s. I do keep the feast with "unleavened bread" - note the word - BREAD.
---ShaunT on 12/16/07


I agree with---ShaunT, and his understanding of the Catholic Mass. Lutherans also believe like this. My prayer is that the Lord would open highs concerning this matter.
---Mima on 12/14/07


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Liguri was writing a devotional work, NOT a doctrinal treatise, though the difference is doubtless to subtle for some people to grasp.

I might mention in passing that Orthodox doesn't even think in these terms.
---Jack on 12/14/07


The Mass is a representation of Calvary. It is referred to as an unbloody sacrifice. Jesus is NOT recrucified. The bloody sacrifice is over and done with. We Remember it.
1 Corinthians 5
7Clean out the old leaven so that you may be a new lump, just as you are in fact unleavened. For Christ our Passover also has been sacrificed. 8Therefore let us celebrate the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
---Greyrider on 12/14/07


Shaun - Priests do not think they are commanding Jesus to come to them. HE commanded US to "Do this in remembrance of Me". (Luke 22:19) We're just following HIS orders. Do you follow His commands? Or do you think men should create their own worship services, based on their own ideas?
---Greyrider on 12/14/07


#1 The Roman Mass is a real sacrifice of Jesus where hundreds of thousands of times per day Jesus is COMMANDED by Roman priests to leave heaven, place himself into their hands and allow himself to be immolated on their alter. For it is when the priest utters the magical words Hoc Est Corpus Meum that Rome teaches that their priest reaches up into the heavens, BRINGS Christ down from His throne, and places Him upon our [Catholic] altar to be offered up again as the Victim for the sins of man."
---ShaunT on 12/13/07


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#2 cont'd. "It is a power greater than that of monarchs and emperors: it is greater than that of the saints and angels, greater than that of the Seraphim and Cherubim." O'Brien Faith of Millions. This is blasphemy. True Christianity teaches that Jesus Commands men, Rome teaches that her priests COMMAND Jesus to leave heaven hundreds of thousand of times every single day non-stop!!! No sinful man commands or demands Jesus to do anything!
---ShaunT on 12/13/07


#3 "With regard to the power of priests over the real body of Jesus Christ the Incarnate Word has obliged Himself to obey and to come into their hands [where] in obedience to the words of his priests HOC EST CORPUS MEUM God Himself descends on the altar, that He comes wherever they call Him, and as often as they call Him, and PLACES HIMSELF in their hands ENTIRELY at their disposal, they move Him as THEY PLEASE, from one place to another..."
---ShaunT on 12/13/07


#4 cont'd "...they may, if they wish, shut Him up in the tabernacle, or expose Him on the altar, or carry Him outside the church, they may, if they choose, eat His flesh and give Him for the food of others." The Dignity of the Priesthood by Alphonsus Liguori

If you call yourself a Christian and this does not give you righteous anger at what Rome teaches you really need to a. examine yourself to see if you be in the faith, or b. to do some diligent study of Roman doctrine and repent.
---ShaunT on 12/13/07


As I understand the Roman Catholic doctrine, the Mass is seen as the re-presentation IN TIME of the Sacrifice done "once for all."

It is NOT a "re-sacrifice" by any means.
---Jack on 12/13/07


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Mima, I do not think you are bashing the Catholics. You are not the only one to post Catholic related posts. And besides Catholics are not the only ones being put on the spot: Adventists and LDS to name a few. Anyhow, I believe you have good intentions. Have a good day.
---Kella3336 on 12/13/07


That is why it is wrong.Hebrews does mention Christ being sacrificed once and for all so,why would you sacrifice Him again?This is against scripture.His sacrifice was either good enough the first time or not.
---donald on 12/12/07


Thank you Alan. I too get tired of the BTC attitude of people on this website.
---NurseRobert on 12/12/07


What is your obsession with the Roman Catholic Church Mima? Mima, with all due respect, you need to ask the Lord to help you get over this obsession. I am sick with these questions that only fuel the Roman Catholic haters. Are you proud of that Mima?

Mima, after viewing many of your posts in the past, you believed many things "unorthodox" and unbibical, so stop this Bash The Catholic Campaign you are running. Ask a priest or go to a Catholic forum, and ask a priest.
---Ramon on 12/12/07


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Sorry ... to avoid being accused of assigning motive, I amend the word "sre" to "seem"
And I am not Jack. I am Alan8566
---alan_of_UK on 12/12/07


I believe Roman Catholics express the issue in different terms than you have expressed it here, Mima, but you never do let an opportunity go by to Bash the Catholics, do you?
---Jack on 12/12/07


As a non-RC, I am getting fed up with all these questions which are designed to set off yet another BTC session.
---alan_of_UK on 12/12/07


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