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Christmas Not In The Bible

Christmas to many Christian's is an important celebration to honor the birth of Jesus Christ. Why is it not mentioned in the Bible?

Moderator - Because Christmas has it's roots in the worship of the sun god not the Son of God. The Catholic church tried to merge the two concepts and later the Protestant church did the same in the USA around 1850.

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Eloy, Tammus was also born on this very date and so the catholics pushed this in with God's teachings to make people believe.
---POP on 3/5/08


.jew-d, I already have. Please read the prior postings, the 6th one before your last one that you posted. I have posted the scriptures in 2 parts. According to the Jewish calendar Christ was born in the month of Chisleu, in the second hour of night, between 7 and 8 oclock Mediterraean time, on December 25th, 5 B.C.
---Eloy on 3/4/08


.jew-d, I already have. Please read the prior postings, the 6th one before your last one that you posted. I have posted the scriptures in 2 parts. According to the Jewish calendar Christ was born in the month of Chisleu, in the second hour of night, between 7 and 8 o'clock Mediterraean time, on December 25th, 5 B.C.
---Eloy on 3/4/08


The Jewish callender says he was born in Oct
---betty on 3/3/08


frances008 ... My eyes are bad too, 'cos I called you Francis!
I had thought there were two Franceses (if that is the plural of Frances), because there were such different contributions coming in.
---alan_of_UK on 3/3/08




Eloy-So what if you have posted the scripture refernces before, as Alan of UK said I haven't been on this blog very long and haven't seen your proof. You have said that the Bible states that Jesus was born on Dec 25, prove it.
---Jew-D on 3/2/08


G-d had a character and process that he does things in. Why would he choose a pagan day to allow his son to be born instead of coinciding it with his own holidays. that doesn't make sense. If jesus death intentionally corresponds with passover, would not his birth correspond with perhaps rosh hoshanah or yom kippor? leave your culture and enter G-d culture for a better understanding.
---Jew-D on 3/2/08


It appears I did see correctly....after reading David's explanation. Indeed 666 seems symbolic here.
---frances008 on 3/2/08


Sorry david, I now see you have two references.
ut when you refer to "Encyclopedia Americana 1977 edition volume 6 page 666"
I wonder what page is it on in the 1960, 1980 or 1997 0r 2004 editions?
If it on page 666 in ALL editions, there maybe some significance.,
---alan_of_UK on 3/2/08


christmas to many christians is an important celebration...these same christians are still being deceived by paganism and have ignored scripture totally..what an insult to our Savior who is being celebrated on Tammus's birthday..how long are you all going to ignore scripture and continue this farce..how long indeed..our Lord and Savior dont deserve this insult..He is worth more than silver n rubies much more than fine gold..and much more than earthlings can produce.Noone knows but the Lord Himself.
---pop on 3/1/08




david which is it? ... or is it in both ?(1967), Vol.3, p.656.
1977 edition volume 6 page 666
---alan_of_UK on 3/1/08


pt.1: Jesus is the cornerstone. "And now set now your heart from this day and upward, before the stone was laid upon a stone in the temple of YHWH: from this day and upward, from the 24th day of the ninth, (from December 24) from the day that the foundation of YHWHs Temple was laid, from this day will I bless you. And in that day will you all say, Thank YHWH, proclaim his name. Sing praise YHWH, for majestically he has done: this known in all the earth." Hag.2:15,18,19+ Is.12:4,5.
---Eloy on 3/1/08


Christmas pt.2 of 2: And the Hebrew ninth month is Chisleu, which is December. "Before she labor-pained she gave birth, before came pain to her, then she delivered a man child. Rejoice with Jerusalem and be glad with her, all who love her, rejoice with her a rejoicing." Isaiah 66:7,10.
---Eloy on 3/1/08


Thanks Alan of Uk. My eyes are getting really bad. I have changed my name to differentiate between myself and another 'Frances' (with capital 'F')
---frances008 on 2/29/08


Yes, my references are correct.I quote from the Encyclopedia Americana 1977 edition volume 6 page 666, which discusses the origins of the Roman Saturnalia,(see my previous post) and the New Catholic Encyclopedia 1967 edition, volume 3 page 656(birthday of the invincible sun). I think page 666 in the Encyclopedia Americana is quite appropriate, don't you think?
---David_8318 on 2/29/08


I agree with the moderator, it is a pagan holiday. I attend a saturday service or an Indep. church of God on the sabbath & we donot celebrate christmas, we keep to the holy days of the bible, not pagan holidays.
---candice on 2/29/08


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"The Bible says Jesus was born on December 25, Eloy". Although you might have quoted verses for this I, for one, have never seen this so please, Eloy, would you give the scripture again for those of us who have not seen it. Those for whom you have given the verse might be long gone and, even if they are not, they will not mind you repeating it I'm sure.
---RitaH on 2/29/08


Francis ... Actually I think David quoted page 656, not 666.
---alan_of_UK on 2/29/08


Eloy ... People come and go, that's why blog questions come round again and again.
I have not seen JewD here before, so it is likely that he has not seen your previous scripture.
And there are others who say the same thing over and over again, and continually repeat the same scriptures.
Would you not be wrong to withold your scripturesfrom the enquirers?
---alan_of_UK on 2/29/08


David8318, I agree, and you get my vote. Also, why Vol 6 page ''666''. It is surely a joke??? Are you serious about that???
---frances on 2/28/08


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Of course Jesus' birth was a joyful occasion. I doubt if any here deny that. The point is, why polute what was and is a holy (clean) event with pagan, none christian 'traditions' such as the festival of saturnalia? "Worship the father with spirit and TRUTH" John 4:24.
---David_8318 on 2/28/08


.jew-d, I have posted these same scriptures many many times, and people read them here, but then they have difficulty retaining them because they continually keep asking me for these same scriptures. So before I post them here for the umpteenth time, Why may I ask, do you want to know this truth? and if I post them for you, will you retain them?
---Eloy on 2/28/08


I 'love' to celebrate Christmas as being in remembrance of the birth of our Lord Jesus Christ BUT I 'hate' the commercialisation of the day. Santa has never featured in the celebrations and, as we (and our children) have become older, the present buying has reduced drastically, the Christmas meal has become very modest and decorating the house has ceased and we send fewer cards. Money saved now helps the needy and we all have a happier Christmas knowing that.
---RitaH on 2/27/08


******The Bible says Jesus was born on December 25, Eloy ********

WHERE!? Please submit an actual scripture reference.
---Jew-D on 2/27/08


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Lisa ... Hooray for yuor joyful common-sense!
---alan_of_UK on 2/25/08


the significance of the birth of Christ is what everyone back then was waiting for!
It was a big deal in the Bible, the Birth of our Lord... the angel prepared Mary and Joesph..and the multitude of heavenly hosts rejoiced!God planned this from the beginning.
If that isn't a celebration, I don't know what is. Sure people back then did celebrate Birthdays as we do..it is just common sense!
Who wouldn't rejoice in the birth of our Lord Jesus?
---lisa on 2/25/08


You do not have to celebrate Christmas. It is an individual thing. This subject has been a recurring topic for years. No one totally agrees on it. If you dont like to celebrate the day then don't.
---Robyn on 2/24/08


David 8318
*The date of Jesus birth is irrelevant and not known. On the other hand, the date of Christs death is known and is of far greater significance... *

You made excellent points in all your posts ...I especially liked being reminded that His Death was a far greater significance ...
---Rhonda on 2/24/08


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The Bible says Jesus was born on December 25
---Eloy on 2/23/08


...And, according to the New Catholic Encyclopaedia, ...the birth of Christ was assigned the date of the winter solstice (December 25 in the Julian calendar, January 6 in the Egyptian), because on this day, as the sun began its return to northern skies, the pagan devotees of Mithra celebrated the dies natalis Solis Invicti (birthday of the invincible sun)...
---david_8318 on 2/22/08


...On December 25, 274AD., Aurelian had proclaimed the sun-god, principal patron of the empire and dedicated a temple to him in the Campus Martius. Christmas originated at a time when the cult of the sun was particularly strong at Rome (1967), Vol.3, p.656.
A simple examination of what the Bible reports indicates quite clearly when Jesus was born...
---david_8318 on 2/22/08


...In the Gospel of Luke, Luke reports that the Angel Gabriel first appeared to the priest Zechariah to tell him that his aged wife, Elizabeth was to have a son. Their son was to become John the Baptist. What is to be noted in this account is that Zechariah was serving as a priest at the time. In fact, Zechariah was serving as priest ...in the division of Abijah. (Luke.1:5) This puts John the Baptists conception at around the time of late Spring, early Summer...
---david_8318 on 2/22/08


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...According to Luke chapter 1 and verse 26, the Angel Gabriel next appeared to Mary, to tell her that she was going to conceive and eventually give birth to Jesus. What is of interest here is that verse 26 tells us that it was in Elizabeths sixth month of pregnancy with John the Baptist that the Angel Gabriel appeared to Mary announcing her pregnancy with Jesus...
---david_8318 on 2/22/08


...So, simply put, Jesus was conceived in Marys womb, six months after the division of Abijah or, we could say, Jesus was born 15 months after the division of Abijah (6 months + 9 months). The division of Abijah, (our starting point) the time of year in which Zechariah was serving as priest, was late spring, early summer. Jesus was thus born late September, early October. This ties in with the shepherds being out with their flocks at night...
---david_8318 on 2/22/08


...Many will argue that their celebration of Christmas is their way of remembering Jesus Christ. Fair enough, thats up to them. But a Christian should be interested in what the Bible teaches. The date of Jesus birth is irrelevant and not known. On the other hand, the date of Christs death is known and is of far greater significance...
---david_8318 on 2/22/08


...In fact, on the night before his death, after passing the bread and wine, Jesus Christ said Keep doing this in remembrance of me. (Luke 22:19) This is the only celebration Christ commanded his disciples to observe. He wasnt referring to his birth when he said that. (This command should not be confused with the pagan celebration of the goddess Esther (Astarte) commonly known as Easter)
---david_8318 on 2/22/08


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December 25 is the pagan festival of Saturnalia. Saturnalia was (and still is) a pagan festival which according to the Encyclopaedia Americana (Vol.6, p.666) ...took place around the time of the winter solstice, when the days begin to lengthen, to celebrate the rebirth of the sun...The Roman Saturnalia, also took place at this time...
---David_8318 on 2/22/08


frances, you will believe and say whatever you desire.
---Eloy on 2/18/08


.jew-d, I am not standing before a sanhedrin, but I am before Christians and nonChristians on a Christian forum, and I will always proclaim the gospel truth in the power and the Holy Ghost of God. But you will believe whatever you desire.
---Eloy on 2/18/08


j._nonymous, currently I have no words to you.
---Eloy on 2/18/08


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Jew-D, Eloy is a disinformation provocateur. He just muddies the water. 'Be like me, I am the most arrogant Christian ever'. It should be getting clearer as he goes on and on. I would ignore him with a big I. Ignore. He may be out to discredit Christians in general. Like, I thought he was a great Christian, but when I said some anti-Jesuit stuff, he was laughing like I was a joke. I think that proves whose side he is on. He agrees with MikeM.
---frances on 2/17/08


Do you all realize that the Wise Men were NOT at the manger scene? They came to see Jesus after they were back home. And yes, they brought gifts because he was a King. To lie to our children, to carry on as pagens, I believe is sin. To celebrate the birth of Messiah is great and wonderful. Why not celebrate it during Sukkot which is usually at the end of September or beginning of October each year. Why not celebrate ALL the wonderful festivals of the L-rd instead of all the pagen stuff of man.
---Gophylann on 2/17/08


Let's face it, nobody is a match for Eloy. He's high level something or other.
---frances on 2/17/08


Eloy-even when Jesus stood before the sanhedrin, he said of nothing of himself-and He is G-d's Son. Paul also gave a long list about himself in Phil 3, but said he counted it all as "dung" (v8). Maybe you should take a life lesson from Jesus & Paul. One last thing: G-d resists the proud and gives grace to the humble Jam 4:6, 1Pet5:5
---Jew-D on 2/17/08


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I'm curious ...Gods Plain Truth tells us the Christian walk is a continuous process of overcoming ..geesh even the Apostles never made such claims of perfect godly righteous character never boasting (of themselves) as clearly scripture is speaking of boasting of God
---Rhonda on 2/17/08


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If one is so free of blemish perfect and sinless in the flesh as Eloy claims (against Gods Word) ...do those they bring to salvation also become perfect like them or remain mere mortal humbles?

By Eloys postings he has exalted himself above the rest of mankind (in the name of Christ) ..then do those who receive salavation by Eloy follow after him or Christ?

....then maybe we need to move this topic on over to the cult blog
---Rhonda on 2/17/08


Well, lets see Eloy, I too am already saved and born-again, made holy and the righteousness of Christ (by his work on the cross), I too am filled with the Holy Ghost, and am given the mind of Christ, I am seated in the heavenlies (though I live on earth) and I speak the tongues of God, I prophesy, and I bear good fruit (but sin at times), and I do the works of God, I translate the Holy Scriptures and lead others to Salvation, I am however impatient, and nowhere near as good as you.
---j._nonymous on 2/17/08


As I said before Eloy, I'm just glad you're not God. You'd take your anger out on all of us for not having any friends in highschool. You send everyone to hell who disagrees with you. You talk King James Engilsh in the 21st century. You don't go to Church because none of them are good enough for you. I'm surprised you haven't been taken up on chariots of fire yet.
---j._nonymous on 2/17/08


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.j._nonymous, I forgot nothing. "My soul will make its boast in YHWH: the humble will hear, and be glad. In God we boast all the day long, and praise your name for ever. Exalt. For though I should boast somewhat more of our authority, which the Lord has given us for edification, and not for your destruction, I should not be ashamed." Psalm 34:2, 44:8, II Corinthians 10:8.
---Eloy on 2/17/08


.j._nonymous, Being filled with the Holy Spirit is dunamis, and because of the Holy Spirit's supernatural life-changing and edifying power, we boast. Please read Psalm 34:1, 44:8, 107:2, II Corinthians 10:8, Act 5:28,29, I Thessalonians 5:19.
---Eloy on 2/17/08


j._nonymous, you do not do these things that I do.
---Eloy on 2/17/08


.j_nonymous, "Come hear, all you that respect God, and I will declare what he has done for my soul. I cried up to him with my mouth, and he was praised with my tongue. If I regard crookedness in my heart, the Lord will not hear: Truly God has heard, he has attended to the voice of my prayer." Psalm 66:16-19.
---Eloy on 2/17/08


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Wow Eloy! That's alot! But is there anyone else here who you think does those things? Or are you the only one?
---j._nonymous on 2/16/08


Eloy, you forgot to mention "humble".
---j._nonymous on 2/16/08


j._nonymous, I am already saved and born-again, made holy and the righteousness of Christ, I am filled with the Holy Ghost, and am given the mind of Christ, I sit in the heavenlies and I speak the tongues of God and am given the gift of interpretation of tongues, I prophesy, and I bear only good fruit, I bear in my body the marks of Christ, and I do the works of God, I translate the Holy Scriptures and lead others to Salvation, I am long-suffering and conquer every enemy of the cross.
---Eloy on 2/16/08


j._nonymous, I am already saved and born-again, made holy and the righteousness of Christ, I am filled with the Holy Ghost, and am given the mind of Christ, I sit in the heavenlies and I speak the tongues of God and am given the gift of interpretation of tongues, I prophesy, and I bear only good fruit, I bear in my body the marks of Christ, and I do the works of God, I translate the Holy Scriptures and lead others to Salvation, I am long-suffering and conquer every enemy of the cross.
---Eloy on 2/16/08


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Kwanza, Ramadan, and Chinese New Year isn't in the bible either, BUT That's not going to stop me from using them to get the good, no, Great news of a Loving God, who sent his LOving Son to died on the cross for their sins and mine out any way that I can!
---timoth8496 on 2/16/08


The house of Israel was judged by G-d for taking Holy Days and compromising them with pagan days and customs. Read 1 & 2Kings and what the prophet Elijah warned them would happen to them unless they repented and worship G-d as G-d prescribed.

Elijah is said to be 1 of the 2 messengers in Rev. What will be his message in the end of days? "Repent and worship G-d as He prescribed."
---Jew-D on 2/15/08


Lisa, you always make a lot of sense. Thanks, and God bless! Pax tibi et familiae tuae!
---InimicusStultitiae on 2/15/08


jnonymous

thank you again

and with recent exchanges on this post I send blessing to you as well...
---Rhonda on 2/15/08


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Many celebrations/traditions have been inculcated into Christianity over time, such as Christmas, Easter, Good Friday etc.
And these things spread because people liked the idea.
In actuality,these celebrations have nothing to do with Christianity.
---2_cents on 2/15/08


Eloy: I challenge you to do the same.
---j._nonymous on 2/15/08


Eloy: You still avoid the question: Who here do you believe to be saved? I know you won't answer. You think being vague and mysterious makes you more like Jesus. You are a petty little man.
---j._nonymous on 2/15/08


Protestants church did the same in the USA around 1850, then forced it into other churches all around the world..without checking scripture, most christiandom just followed like sheep following sheep.
---pam on 2/15/08


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j._nonymous, your words, "think...almost sure...I challenge you...etc." Your challenge is empty. I challenge you to turn to the Lord Jesus and get saved.
---Eloy on 2/15/08


I appreciate that Rhonda. And I appreciate that you stick to your guns with conviction, but at the same time are humble enough to admit your own inability to understand everything. I think we all could use a dose of that. We see through a glass darkly and I believe God is sympathetic to our finite minds. What we need to know for salvation has been clearly spelled out to us. I trust we agree on what that is. And truthfully, that's what matters most. Be blessed!
---j._nonymous on 2/14/08


jnonymous
by the way ...I do enjoy reading your posts ...I have read your posts on other topics although I haven't responded to these topics I can relate to some of your thoughts - and although we may never share a common ground on christmas I can see your points - even if I was a little snippy on my last response to you ,)
---Rhonda on 2/14/08


jnonymous
thank you - I'm working on adjusting my writing style to be clearer etc - 85 word limit is difficult!! - may take some time. I've always enjoyed discussing God regardless of viewpoints. I'm here to share not condemn.

Years ago living in another state my coworkers were various Christian backgrounds, Jewish, Hindu - we could discuss our own views on God and religion in non-judgemental way for hours.

Hoping to find some of that again here.
---Rhonda on 2/14/08


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The birth of our Lord Jesus happened.
The angels, wisemen and shepards did go to see Him in the Manger. There they did indeed worhsip Him and celebrate the Greatest Gift God gave mankind.
There for Christians call this Christmas and celebrate the greatest gift to mankind also.

Let is stick to the Lord and always praise and thank Him and give Him glory and honor.
Christmas is good cause God is good and it is Him.
---lisa on 2/14/08


ELOY: name the people on here who you DO think are saved. I'm almost sure you think you're the only one. But I challenge you! Prove me wrong! RHONDA: though we disagree on Christmas, I don't judge you're salvation. And I don't think you're a heretic or unsaved.
I do, however, believe Eloy to be a Pharisee and a very lonely man. Grow up Eloy. The truth is, your jugementalness is why people don't like you. And because people don't like you, your angry. To have a friend you have to be a friend.
---j._nonymous on 2/14/08


.rhonda, that is because you choose to remain in your sin, and you misname this choice as humility when in truth it is no humilty but your continual disobedience and sin. For God's Command is, Be perfect. Matthew 5:48. God is not mocked. God does not accept sin, he does not give you permission to sin, nor does he call those whom stay in sin humble. Instead his wrath abides upon the disobedient, and there is swift judgment to the adversary.
---Eloy on 2/14/08


.alanOfUk, You speak falsely, you are not ready to learn, but only ready to continuing dissing God's word. I have already said more than once where you can precisely find Jesus' place, date, and time of birth in the scriptures. So if you are so quick to learn what I teach, as you wrongly say, then why did you not retain this my words which I have posted more than once?
---Eloy on 2/14/08


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Eloy: though I agree with you that it's good to celebrate Christmas, you are quite the megalomaniac:

"I know and understand the Holy Scriptures perfectly".
---Eloy on 2/13/08

Perfectly huh? Well paint me red and send me to hell Eloy. That's where you end up sending all of us at some point I guess: "rhonda, you continue to bear false witness, because there is no light in you".

Eloy, quoting Jesus doesn't make you Jesus.
---j._nonymous on 2/13/08


well Eloy since you clearly know scripture PERFECTLY ...then continue along in your perfectness

I myself am humble before my Lord and Master Jesus Christ and I would never dare make such a claim to His Word
---Rhonda on 2/13/08


well Eloy since you clearly know scripture PERFECTLY ...then continue along in your perfectness

I myself am humble before my Lord and Master Jesus Christ and I would never dare make such a claim to His Word
---Rhonda on 2/13/08


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