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Did Jesus Pay For All Sins

Which statement do you believe:
1.Jesus on the cross of Calvary paid for everybody's sins.
2.Jesus only paid for the sins of those who receive him.

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How many on here believe God has predestined who would be saved before man was created?

I think answering this question lets everyone know where your understanding of what Christ death did, and who it was done for.
---willa5568 on 5/1/11


ELROY 4/25/11 - Call on the name of the LORD.

That verse sounds good, The problem is, you have to see what the whole BIBLE is saying.
ROMANS 10:9 That if you confess with your mouth the LORD JESUS and Believe in your HEART that GOD has raised him from the Dead,You will be saved,

Word Heart is the problem, GOD first has to give a person a new heart. Because Man heart is deceitful - JEREMIAH 17:9

Now if a person says I accept CHRIST and thinks their saved : that person is trying to do the WORK of getting themselve saved, IF GOD gives a person a new heart and becomes saved they do good works,( One of GODS elect) Like calling on the name of the LORD.

LAMENTATION 3:26
---RICHARDC on 5/1/11


1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the whole world.

Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many, unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

How do we reconcile these two passages. My suggestions is the first is that he paid for all sins as the first says but that many will accept it but not all.

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness, but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

This seems to seal the deal.
---Samuel on 4/28/11


Which statement do you believe:
1.Jesus on the cross of Calvary paid for everybody's sins.
2.Jesus only paid for the sins of those who receive him.

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the whole world.
---francis on 4/28/11


Which statement do you believe:
1.Jesus on the cross of Calvary paid for everybody's sins.
2.Jesus only paid for the sins of those who receive him.
----blog question


I believe scripture. It has GOD's own witnesses to back up the following. The word "Many" below is not "All".

Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many, unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

Jeremiah 16:16
Behold, I will send for many fishers, saith the LORD, and they shall fish them, and after will I send for many hunters, and they shall hunt them from every mountain, and from every hill, and out of the holes of the rocks.

And so I fish and hunt.
---Trav on 4/28/11




richardc, "Jesus has made of One Blood All Nations of people for to dwell upon all the face of the earth. Or he God of Jews only? and not also of nations? Yes, of nations also: Seeing one God which will justify the circumcision by obedience, and uncircumcision through obedience. For Yhwh God excuses not persons, neither regards the persons of men: for man looks on the outward appeareance, but Yhwh looks on the heart. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich to all that call upon him. For whosoever will call upon the Name of the Lord will be saved. And that one that comes to Jesus he will in no ways cast out."
---Eloy on 4/25/11


Jesus paid for everybody's sins, but unfortunately not everyone believes this, thus because of their unbelief they do not accept this great gift and forfeit their redemption.
---Sharon on 4/24/11


Trav,
I don't really follow what you are saying. Are saying the Jewish people are saved differently or same as Gentiles, which is what I understand Barb to have said?
---willa5568 on 4/23/11

Prefer term Judah rather than Jewish for clarity.

And in a manner of speaking yes, the Northern House is spoken of as being brought in first....10 virgins....with Judah last.
Isaiah 45:17
But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.
Rom10:1Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

2For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

13For whosoever ...
---Trav on 4/25/11


Trav,

I don't really follow what you are saying. Are saying the Jewish people are saved differently or the same as Gentiles, which is what I understand Barb to have said?
---willa5568 on 4/23/11


ELOY 4/22/11 - he does care if - religious or nonreligious,?

1 CORINTHIANS 2:14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the spirit of GOD,for they are foolishness to him, nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

JOHN 17,9 I pray for them,I do not pray for the world but for those whom you have given Me,for they are yours. ( The them is the remnant)

He does not care if there a JEW ?

ROMANS 11,8 Just as it is written, God has given them a spirit of stupor, Eyes that should not see, And ears that they should not hear, to this very day.
---RICHARDC on 4/24/11




Don't you all just love Christ Jesus? He does not care if you are a Jew or a Gentile, religious or nonreligious, well-versed or still learning, rich or poor, man or woman or child. His awesome grace and permeating love transcends all boundaries and his Almighty Spirit is able to melt and convert the most hardened and stubborn person. He made us and he knows us better than we ourselves do, and he is able to come to that place to each one of us that no other person is able to reach. Thank you Jesus! You alone are my Lord and my God!
---Eloy on 4/22/11


Barb,

They may difficult to understand but he never says the Jews will enter the Kingdom of God differently than the Gentiles.
---willa5568 on 4/20/11

It is a necessary thing to understand the New Covenant Heb8:8, to realize that Judah was one of the subjects and the "nations/ethnos" of the Northern House of Israel who lost their married name are the other mentioned participant.
Heb8:8, states this clearly as well as Matt 10:6/15:24 and every prophet.
Most other doctrines have no Prophets for witness.
Unseeking,unaware of scripture, going against the prophets.
Isa 62:55For as a young man marrieth a virgin, ...
---Trav on 4/22/11


Paul in Romans 1-3 points out all must be saved the same way. In Ephesians, Galasitions he points out we are not seperate but now one children of Abraham.
---Samuel on 4/22/11


Barb,

I do not think you understand Paul's writings just as Peters says in in his second epistle 3:15-16. They may difficult to understand but he never says the Jews will enter the Kingdom of God differently than the Gentiles.
---willa5568 on 4/20/11


Donna: Keep reading. John 3:19 "And this is the comdemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. And John 3:21 "But he who does the truth comes to the light that his deeds may be shown that they are of God."

Jesus Christ is the light and we must believe in his words, his teachings and learn the truth. God sent his son into the world to do what? John 18:37 "For this reason was I born and for this cause did I come into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Everyone that IS OF THE TRUTH hears my voice."
---barb on 4/20/11


Donna: Continuing on....Jesus died to pay the death penalty for His Kingdom (Israel) who shortly thereafter rejected Him as their Messiah. This opened up the Kingdom of God so that those who agree to keep the commandments of God and to hold to the testimony of Jesus may have the right to enter in. Rev. 12:17.

Paul would have you believe otherwise as he teaches two roads, one for the Gentiles and one for the Jews but Jesus taught one road and it is the narrow one.
---barb on 4/20/11


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Here's what Jesus, not Paul, said:
Jhn 3:16-19 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world, ....---Donna66 on 4/15/11

Posting because you do look. No contradictions in Scripture correct? There aren't. Except the ones denoms or we allow, protect/expound.
Compare side by side these blelow with the above. Establish with a prophet/s who prophecied the above. The way it's preached/taught.

1. Matt 1:21....
2.Luke 1:77...
3.Luke 1:68
4.Matt 15:24
5.Jhn 1:31
6.Rom 11:26
All linked to prophets testimoney.

Then we have Isaiah 56:5
Even unto them will I give...
---Trav on 4/17/11


barb-- Jhn 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

How did the Jews of that day have their sins removed so they could be made right with God? They sacrificed a lamb, one without spot or blemish.

Do you think Paul's idea of Christs sacrifice for the sins of mankind was dreamed up out of nowhere?

Here's what Jesus, not Paul, said:
Jhn 3:16-19 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through him might be saved.
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
---Donna66 on 4/15/11


JESUS died for the sins of all. But only those who are born again by His Spirit will be saved.

You will know the saved ones by their love of GOD and others.
---Samuel on 4/15/11


Its funny how the "lost sheep of the house of Israel" changes depending on which group of people thinks only they were chosen....
---Jasheradan on 4/14/11

True. By GOD's action and wisdom...."Sheep" will argue they aren't "the" sheep, and at the same time be sheep.

Partial reason why...
Hosea 2:6
Therefore, behold, I will hedge up thy way with thorns, make a wall, that she shall not find her paths.
Isa 42:16
I will bring the blind by a way that they knew not, I will lead them in paths that they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, crooked things straight. These things will I do unto them,and not forsake them.
---Trav on 4/15/11


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Jesus died and paid the death penalty only for his Kingdom. "I am sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Matt 15:24.
---barb on 4/14/11

Barbara, fond of your name. My mothers name also.
Fair warning. Preachery old preachers here don't approve of scriptures you've posted. Confess 6 day creation, publicly/repeatedly and you may win a prize of: "you pay to hear em preach somewhere". Preferably london or muslim area with atheist's. Bring money,you won't need a Bible,opinions have displaced.
Luke 20:46
Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, love greetings in the markets, the highest seats in the synagogues, the chief rooms at feasts,
---Trav on 4/14/11


Its funny how the "lost sheep of the house of Israel" changes depending on which group of people thinks only they were chosen....
---Jasheradan on 4/14/11


JASHERAHAN 4/13/11 Stop twisting the words of GOD?
First in the debate that was going on I was not using ROMANS, But JOEL 2:32

JOEL 2:31 The sun shall be turn to darkness,And the moon into Blood,Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the LORD. 2:32 And it shall come to pass That whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be save. Among the remnant whom the LORD calls.

ISRAEL - In some places in the bible, represents the kingdom of GOD - that why
Jesus is call King of Israel - Refer MATTHEW 24:42

LUKE 13:23 Then one said to him, Lord,are there few who are save.
LUKE 13:24 Stive to enter through the narrow gate, for many,I say to you,will seek to enter and will not be able.
---RICHARDC on 4/14/11


Jesus died and paid the death penalty only for his Kingdom. "I am sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Matt 15:24.

Unless you are born by the Spirit you cannot even see the Kingdom of God. John 3:3.

We all make such a big deal about Jesus coming to this world and shedding his blood to save us from our sins but Jesus never said He came to die for us. Paul was the inventor or that fable. Jesus said "for this reason I came into the world, for this reason I was born to testify to the truth. EVERYONE WHO IS OF THE TRUTH HEARS MY VOICE." What is the truth? John 17:17.
---barb on 4/14/11


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Romans 11:

25) For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant... lest ye should be wise in your own conceits, that blindness in part is happened to ISRAEL, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

If you read Romans 9-11 slowly youll see that the "remnant" are the children of Israel that God "reserved"/elected for himself. He had to elect some Israelites to spread the gospel to US. Some were Jews, some were Gentiles. Then there are those who were never Gods children (US gentiles) which have obtained mercy by the election of certain children of Israel.

Find one scripture in Romans 9-11 that says blindness in part has come to the gentiles! You wont be able to.
---Jasheradan on 4/13/11


Thus says the Lord God, "No one whom is living in sin will sit at my table, says the Lord, nor will they come into my house, neither will they enter into my Kingdom: for only they whom have made their garments clean, and have put away all sin and are clothed with my blood, and are filled with mine Spirit will I receive into mine family and into my fold."
---Eloy on 4/13/11


For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth,

Think about this. He saved you even before you sinned.
So why are you afraid of sinning now?
You don't believe he'll forgive you?
In truth he forgave you before you were born.
But, you believe, it because you believe. Not so!

Aren't the things you believe given you, by God!
Even Christ! God gave you Christ?
And if it is Christ you have.
Why don't you believe he'll give them Christ? In his time!
Well I believe it!
---TheSeg on 4/14/11


//Yes Total sum that GOD plans to save, a renmant.//RICHARD

That is ISRAEL! Stop twisting the word of God.

Romans 9:24,27
Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel!!! be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:

Do you honestly think every one of the "children of Israel" that has ever been born remained a Jew? Is every relative you have a Christian?

But they have not all obeyed the gospel
---Jasheradan on 4/13/11


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//---Rob on 4/2/11I believe the first Four Gospels of the New Tesatament were written to and talking about the Jews.//
Amen Rob
Rom 15:8Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for truth of God, to confirm promises made unto the fathers:
---michael_e on 4/3/11

The promises to the fathers were to all Israel as were the first covenant and the New Covenant. Every prophet will bear it out.
Matthew 10:6
But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Matthew 10:5-7 (in Context)

When Judah refused him....he went to the Nth House "nation,ethnos" of Divorced Israel.
Matthew 15:24
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
---Trav on 4/11/11


#1 is true...for ALL flesh shall have salvation AVAILABLE ("see") to them...

Luke 3:6
"and all flesh shall see the salvation of God".

...but not all will decide to walk in peace and truth (accepting to LIVE the "spirit") and be "prepared" in genuine acceptance of Jesus as savior.

2 Corinthians 5:5
"has given us the Spirit as a guarantee".

The "guarantee" (God's Spirit) was provided at the same time Jesus was glorified (John 7:39), but not all will allow God's Spirit to teach them not to do things that are contrary to conscience...(good students will have a CLEAR conscience).

Hebrews 9:14
"eternal Spirit....purify your conscience".
---more_excellent_way on 4/10/11


MIMA , WE all understand that refers to total sum ? Of people? Yes Total sum that GOD plans to save, a renmant. If everybodys going to heaven why have the word hell in the Bible at all.

God not going to save even all the people that go to Churches - MATTHEW 13:24 - wheat and tares -

MATTHEW 13:30 Let both grow until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers,First gather together the TARES and bind them into bundles to BURN them,but gather the wheat into my barn.

MATTHEW 7:21 Not everyone who says to Me, LORD LORD,shall enter the Kindom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father in Heaven.

---RICHARDC on 4/10/11


This statement,"JOHN 6:37 ALL THAT THE FATHER GIVES ME will come to Me,and the one who comes to me I will by no means cast out.
( The ALL in the Bible has to do with ALL of the Chosen) by Richard appears to be adding to the word. We all understand that all refer to the total sum. And an understanding is the one to follow here.

---mima on 4/9/11


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JOHN 6:37 ALL THAT THE FATHER GIVES ME will come to Me,and the one who comes to me I will by no means cast out.
( The ALL in the Bible has to do with ALL of the Chosen)

ROMANS 9:20 But indeed, O man, Who are you to reply against GOD? Will the thing say to him who formed it, Why have you made me like this?
ROMANS 9:21 Does not the potter have power over the clay,From the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?

PSALM 145:20 The LORD preserves ALL that love him, But ALL of the wicked he will destroy.


---RICHARDC on 4/9/11


Francis:

Your statement is exactly what the Bible teaches and all Believers should accept that idea as a basic tenet of Bible doctrine.

Christ paid for the sins of all members of the human race!
---Allan on 4/7/11


2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness, but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

GOD wants all to be saved. So he paid for the sins of all. But people have the right to refuse which GOD knows in advance. But foreknoledge does not force people to choose.

This and other statments that show GOD loves everyone is ignored. True when people choose to do evil that they end up suffering the wrath of GOD. Which is the second death. So they are hated. But GOD is love and does not want to hate.
---Samuel on 4/6/11


1.Jesus on the cross of Calvary paid for everybody's sins
---francis on 4/6/11


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The Sovereignty of God does not imply arbitrariness or showing favour. Each member of the human race is in need of the Grace of God, whether he realizes it or not.

No man, regardless of his state, is outside of the reach of God's Grace! God, being sovereign, means that He has absolute authority, control and power and that He is in absolute control of every detail of the universe. That is, there are no forces or combination of forces that could effectively challenge, deter, delay, defer or alter His authority, His control or His power. All are subject to the authority, the control and the power of the Sovereign, God.
---Allan on 4/6/11


1 and 2.
---aka on 4/3/11


ALLAN 4/3/11 - He likes no individual better than other individual?

MALACHI 1:2 I have love you, says the LORD. Yet you say , In what have you loved us? Say the LORD, YET Jacob I have Loved, But Esau I have Hated. And have laid waste his mountain and his heritage for jackals of the wilderness.

ROMANS 9:18 Therefore he has mercy on whom he wills, and whom he will harden.
---RICHARDC on 4/3/11


Since Adam and Eve, all other members of the human race were born as sinners. Romans 5:8 says that while, we, members of the human race, were at their worst place in relationship to God, God did the most for the sinner.(John 29)The Bible clearly teaches that Christ died for the sins of the world. Alla sins, past sins, present sins and future sins. That is the nature of God and His Grace. (Romans 5:17-21). God is not a man, His does not have preferences. He likes no individual better than the other individual. And lest we forget, salvation is not by works of any kind. That is the Bible's position and it is consistent with the nature and Character of God and His all encompassing Grace.
---Allan on 4/3/11


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Our apostle Paul speaks to believers.
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while WE were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Paul says while we(himself you and I)were sinners.
If we accept Paul's gospel, we accept the finished work of the Cross
1 Cor 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand, 2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures,
4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
---michael_e on 4/3/11


DANIEL 12:2 And many those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, Some to everlasting life, Some to everlasting contempt.

JOEL 2:32 And it shall come to pass that whoever calls on name of the LORD shall be saved. For in Mount zion and in jerusalem there shall be deliverance,As the Lord has said, Among the REMNANT WHOM THE LORD CALLS.

MATTHEW 7,14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way leads to life, and there are few who find it.
---RICHARDC on 4/3/11


If Jesus paid only for some sins and not all, He would be showing preference and that would mean that Grace would not and could not be Grace. For Grace disregards any unfavoured or unfavourable conditions and act in spite of them.

If Jesus paid for some sins, there would necessarily be a condition under which Grace could not act or operate. And that is inconsistent with both the Character and the nature of God and His Grace.
---Allan on 4/3/11


Jesus came for his Kingdom. Israel. Matt 15:24. If Israel had accepted Him as their Messiah then Jesus would have taught them the truth and they in turn would have taken the truth to the whole world.

John 4:22 You worship you know not what: we know what we worship for salvation is of the Jews.

Jesus was the Passover Lamb and there was no sin on Him He paid the death penalty only for those who will enter into his Kingdom. John 3:3-8.
---barb on 4/1/11


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There is much wisdom in the post by---cornelius on 4/1/11.
---mima on 4/1/11


1 John 2:2 Jesus died for the sins of the whole world that is why the person who is condemned is condemned not for any other sin but for the fact that they did not believe in Jesus John 3:18
---cornelius on 4/1/11


Jesus payed the penalty for the sins of the whole world (1 John 2:2).
---Court7646 on 2/28/08


Neither one is correct. "For I will save my people from their SINS". That is the ones He has chosen before the foundation of this world. Jesus said to remember, "I chosed you. You did not choose me". Jesus even said to me one day when I asked Him why He saved me on one occasion because we have had this conversation a couple of times, He said, "I loved you from the beginning".
---catherine on 2/22/08


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God was born into this world to become the blood sacrifice for all peoples' sins. The easiest way I know to discribe it is He paid our fine. We are not free until we leave the jail cell of our own accord. So, both 1 and 2 of your question would agree in part with the truth.
---mikefl on 1/28/08


A friend pointed out to me that it is better to say "receive" him than "accept" him. And after close study(I could not find the words accept him in the King James version) have found it to be more scriptural.
---Mima on 1/14/08


About 50 percent of this world do not know the answer and ask..they seek and because of this..those who know the answer are called to tell the gospel..It seems that in this day and time..where most are taught to rely on self have failed and seek and those who know the Lord give th answer which does not lead to discussion but to salvation..it is what we are called to do to tell the gospel to all who do not know that they will not perish..
---Mary on 1/13/08


Jesus paid for everyone's sins, but you have to accept Him as Lord and Savior to benefit from the forgiveness.
---rraea8898 on 1/10/08


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Mary you say "Only one who does not know the Lord would ask this question" but this is not necessarily so. Many people on C.N. ask questions to which they already know the answer. They do it to prompt a discussion so that those who do not know can learn (hopefully). I believe that many of Mima's questions are asked for this reason. You only have to see his answers to other questions to see what he knows and believes.
---RitaH on 1/10/08


Only one who does not know the Lord would ask this question and to receive the answer is to know the one who alone is worthy..The only one who can redeem a sin sick soul...to bring us etrnal life and felowship with the Father..and most of all to know God's love for you in spite of yourself..that He would send His Son, Jesus to die for our sin and to rise again to prove every word of God is true..
---Mary on 1/10/08


IF Jesus was the Passover Lamb (and He said He was), then Jesus did NOT have any sins placed upon Him as Paul and the writer of Hebrews states. Before responding to this, do your own research in the old testament and you will find that the Passover Lamb NEVER had any sins placed upon it. Therefore, Jesus' death only made it possible for YOU to become sanctified yourself! (John 17) He then did NOT die for anyone's sin!
---Dr.Rich on 1/9/08


Jesus paid for the sins of all mankind..HE died for the sinner while he was still a sinner, not after acceptance of the sacriface
---duane on 1/9/08


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Mima
Christ is the savoir of the world by baring the sins of the world (1 John 2:2). All that receive Him will be saved (1 John 2:5).
---Shawn.M.T on 1/9/08


Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

How could Jesus lie and be Holy?
---Pharisee on 1/9/08


Salvation is not an offer. It is a fiat.
---InimicusStultitiae on 1/9/08


Only those people He has chosen before the foundation of the world. So I believe it would be your second answer. And by the way, way to go with these questions.
---catherine on 1/9/08


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Neither statement is true, for Jesus' sacrifice for sin can only pay for the sins that a person has repented from. And any whom refuse to repent from sin, they stay in condemnation.
---Eloy on 1/9/08


If I offered you the keys to unlock the door to your freedom by placing it on the desk and you refused to take it and unlock the door, then you will stay inside forever. Hope you get that. Btw, if Christ did not die for ALL, then he died for nothing.
---Johnny on 1/9/08


mike: Great points! I've been thinking the same thing lately. It's like, Christ took away our guilt and shame until it's useful for someone to guilt following orders, or doing what they say even if its not specifically a moral issue or a direction we are supposed to take. God's Son died for everyone and everyone's sin, but God's will? I can't tell that's between you and Him. Again, great point.
---j._nonymous on 1/8/08


1 John 2:2 > "And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but for the whole world."

So, clearly Jesus suffered and died for all. Jesus calls to "all" > "'Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.'" (Matthew 11:29) You have hope for "all" of us. And so do we, if we follow You, Jesus.
---Bill_bila5659 on 1/8/08


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Mima, Jesus died for ALL sins. If He hadn't then it would be impossible for certain people to EVER accept Him because He would not have died for THEM. However, we have to accept Jesus' sacrifice as being a gift to us and believe in faith that He was who He said He was. Only when we accept a gift can it be of any use to us. This gift is being discarded on a massive scale and multitudes are going to hell because of this.
---RitaH on 1/8/08


Jesus paid for all sin. Rom.5.18. Read the whole chapter. Everyone will eventually be saved. 1.Cor.15.27-28.
---InimicusStultitiae on 1/8/08


Mike, Sin is sin, whether or not we're christians. We just don't look at it as sin before.All the things that you had mentioned are not necessarily caused by sin. We all live in a fallen world and thus have to live with the consequences of it. Oh, and it's the LOVE of money that is the Root of all evil. 1 Tim.6:10 Sin is not greater than grace only if you let it.
---colupy on 1/8/08


If you go and look at John chapter 17 in that long red letter quote to the end of the chapter in verse nine verse Christ says he is not praying for the world only the members of the flock that the Father gave him so the concept of Christ dying for all of mankind my not be valid, rather Christ only died for Gods prechosen elect. Since this was the last major discourse before he he was take by the temple guards, it would have higher president over any previous statements as a direct quotation.
---notlaw99 on 1/8/08


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Jesus paid for everyone sins,but only the ones that ASK for forgiveness and ASK him into their hearts will be forgiven.
---colupy on 1/8/08


1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
All sin has been paid for, but the payment needs to be applied. To all those who will receive him, to them are given the power to be the sons of God.
---john on 1/8/08


Price paid in full 2000 yrs ago...HE did away with sin. HE took sin upon Himself for the sins of the world.
We must believe this.
---duane on 1/8/08


if christ paid for our sins, then how come, AFTER a person is saved, everything becomes sin! diseases=sin, suffering=sin, self=sin, money=sin, making our own decisions=sin, missed blessing/opportunities=sin, unheard prayers=sin. words coming out of christians describes that sin is greater than grace
---mike on 1/8/08


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Its both - Jesus died for my sins before I was even born, before I even accepted him as my lord and savior and was partying. However but to receive his gift of salvation I had to allow him and ask him into my life - it free will otherwise he could storm into everyones life and there would be no love for him but only fear
---Rosalie on 1/8/08


Jesus became the blood sacrifice for the remission of sin,but it isn't a blank check for get home free. We must believe Jesus is the Son of God,repent of our sins,accept Him as our Savior,and change our lives for Him in faith receiving the precious gift of the Blood bought position as God's child. It is God's desire none should perish,but He doesn't over rule our will,we choose either believe and receive or reject Christ and accept that God then rejects us. The only way to God is through Jesus.
---Darlene_1 on 1/8/08


The answer is both. He died for all sins, but do all men trust in His sacrifice to cleanse them? The sacrifice was His to make if we are to make heaven. We couldn't die for our own sins. The believing is for us to do if we are to make heaven. He cannot believe for us. He's done His part, we have to do ours. I would say we have the easy end of the deal.
---j._nonymous on 1/8/08




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