Jesus payed the penalty for the sins of the whole world (1 John 2:2). |
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---Court7646 on 2/28/08 |
Neither one is correct. "For I will save my people from their SINS". That is the ones He has chosen before the foundation of this world. Jesus said to remember, "I chosed you. You did not choose me". Jesus even said to me one day when I asked Him why He saved me on one occasion because we have had this conversation a couple of times, He said, "I loved you from the beginning". |
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---catherine on 2/22/08 |
God was born into this world to become the blood sacrifice for all peoples' sins. The easiest way I know to discribe it is He paid our fine. We are not free until we leave the jail cell of our own accord. So, both 1 and 2 of your question would agree in part with the truth. |
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---mikefl on 1/28/08 |
A friend pointed out to me that it is better to say "receive" him than "accept" him. And after close study(I could not find the words accept him in the King James version) have found it to be more scriptural. |
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---Mima on 1/14/08 |
About 50 percent of this world do not know the answer and ask..they seek and because of this..those who know the answer are called to tell the gospel..It seems that in this day and time..where most are taught to rely on self have failed and seek and those who know the Lord give th answer which does not lead to discussion but to salvation..it is what we are called to do to tell the gospel to all who do not know that they will not perish.. |
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---Mary on 1/13/08 |
Jesus paid for everyone's sins, but you have to accept Him as Lord and Savior to benefit from the forgiveness. |
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---rraea8898 on 1/10/08 |
Mary you say "Only one who does not know the Lord would ask this question" but this is not necessarily so. Many people on C.N. ask questions to which they already know the answer. They do it to prompt a discussion so that those who do not know can learn (hopefully). I believe that many of Mima's questions are asked for this reason. You only have to see his answers to other questions to see what he knows and believes. |
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---RitaH on 1/10/08 |
Only one who does not know the Lord would ask this question and to receive the answer is to know the one who alone is worthy..The only one who can redeem a sin sick soul...to bring us etrnal life and felowship with the Father..and most of all to know God's love for you in spite of yourself..that He would send His Son, Jesus to die for our sin and to rise again to prove every word of God is true.. |
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---Mary on 1/10/08 |
IF Jesus was the Passover Lamb (and He said He was), then Jesus did NOT have any sins placed upon Him as Paul and the writer of Hebrews states. Before responding to this, do your own research in the old testament and you will find that the Passover Lamb NEVER had any sins placed upon it. Therefore, Jesus' death only made it possible for YOU to become sanctified yourself! (John 17) He then did NOT die for anyone's sin! |
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---Dr.Rich on 1/9/08 |
Jesus paid for the sins of all mankind..HE died for the sinner while he was still a sinner, not after acceptance of the sacriface |
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---duane on 1/9/08 |
Mima Christ is the savoir of the world by baring the sins of the world (1 John 2:2). All that receive Him will be saved (1 John 2:5). |
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---Shawn.M.T on 1/9/08 |
Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
How could Jesus lie and be Holy? |
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---Pharisee on 1/9/08 |
Only those people He has chosen before the foundation of the world. So I believe it would be your second answer. And by the way, way to go with these questions. |
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---catherine on 1/9/08 |
Neither statement is true, for Jesus' sacrifice for sin can only pay for the sins that a person has repented from. And any whom refuse to repent from sin, they stay in condemnation. |
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---Eloy on 1/9/08 |
If I offered you the keys to unlock the door to your freedom by placing it on the desk and you refused to take it and unlock the door, then you will stay inside forever. Hope you get that. Btw, if Christ did not die for ALL, then he died for nothing. |
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---Johnny on 1/9/08 |
mike: Great points! I've been thinking the same thing lately. It's like, Christ took away our guilt and shame until it's useful for someone to guilt following orders, or doing what they say even if its not specifically a moral issue or a direction we are supposed to take. God's Son died for everyone and everyone's sin, but God's will? I can't tell that's between you and Him. Again, great point. |
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---j._nonymous on 1/8/08 |
1 John 2:2 > "And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but for the whole world."
So, clearly Jesus suffered and died for all. Jesus calls to "all" > "'Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.'" (Matthew 11:29) You have hope for "all" of us. And so do we, if we follow You, Jesus. |
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---Bill_bila5659 on 1/8/08 |
Mima, Jesus died for ALL sins. If He hadn't then it would be impossible for certain people to EVER accept Him because He would not have died for THEM. However, we have to accept Jesus' sacrifice as being a gift to us and believe in faith that He was who He said He was. Only when we accept a gift can it be of any use to us. This gift is being discarded on a massive scale and multitudes are going to hell because of this. |
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---RitaH on 1/8/08 |
Jesus paid for all sin. Rom.5.18. Read the whole chapter. Everyone will eventually be saved. 1.Cor.15.27-28. |
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---InimicusStultitiae on 1/8/08 |
Mike, Sin is sin, whether or not we're christians. We just don't look at it as sin before.All the things that you had mentioned are not necessarily caused by sin. We all live in a fallen world and thus have to live with the consequences of it. Oh, and it's the LOVE of money that is the Root of all evil. 1 Tim.6:10 Sin is not greater than grace only if you let it. |
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---colupy on 1/8/08 |
If you go and look at John chapter 17 in that long red letter quote to the end of the chapter in verse nine verse Christ says he is not praying for the world only the members of the flock that the Father gave him so the concept of Christ dying for all of mankind my not be valid, rather Christ only died for Gods prechosen elect. Since this was the last major discourse before he he was take by the temple guards, it would have higher president over any previous statements as a direct quotation. |
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---notlaw99 on 1/8/08 |
Jesus paid for everyone sins,but only the ones that ASK for forgiveness and ASK him into their hearts will be forgiven. |
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---colupy on 1/8/08 |
1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. All sin has been paid for, but the payment needs to be applied. To all those who will receive him, to them are given the power to be the sons of God. |
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---john on 1/8/08 |
Price paid in full 2000 yrs ago...HE did away with sin. HE took sin upon Himself for the sins of the world. We must believe this. |
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---duane on 1/8/08 |
if christ paid for our sins, then how come, AFTER a person is saved, everything becomes sin! diseases=sin, suffering=sin, self=sin, money=sin, making our own decisions=sin, missed blessing/opportunities=sin, unheard prayers=sin. words coming out of christians describes that sin is greater than grace |
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---mike on 1/8/08 |
Its both - Jesus died for my sins before I was even born, before I even accepted him as my lord and savior and was partying. However but to receive his gift of salvation I had to allow him and ask him into my life - it free will otherwise he could storm into everyones life and there would be no love for him but only fea |
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---Rosalie on 1/8/08 |
Jesus became the blood sacrifice for the remission of sin,but it isn't a blank check for get home free. We must believe Jesus is the Son of God,repent of our sins,accept Him as our Savior,and change our lives for Him in faith receiving the precious gift of the Blood bought position as God's child. It is God's desire none should perish,but He doesn't over rule our will,we choose either believe and receive or reject Christ and accept that God then rejects us. The only way to God is through Jesus. |
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---Darlene_1 on 1/8/08 |
The answer is both. He died for all sins, but do all men trust in His sacrifice to cleanse them? The sacrifice was His to make if we are to make heaven. We couldn't die for our own sins. The believing is for us to do if we are to make heaven. He cannot believe for us. He's done His part, we have to do ours. I would say we have the easy end of the deal. |
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---j._nonymous on 1/8/08 |
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