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Real ID Mark Of Beast ID

On may, 11 2005 congress passed and Presdent Bush signed tha law that established the mechanism for the implementation the mark of the beast. This law is called the Real ID act. How will you accept your ID?

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Well, if you really wanted us to know the mark of The Beast, then you would put it up. Why do we have to email you or whatnot? If you really knew, don't you think other people would want to know? And I don't believe you...
---Viet on 8/10/09


The mark of the beast is not 666, is not a computer chip, smart card, biometrics, bar codes, or any such like entity and is not failure to worship on the Jewish Sabbath.
I know what the mark of the beast really is and Satan has deceived many, many good people. Email me at your lesiure.
---Dr._D._Jack_Grasse on 5/9/08


Man is a triune being. He is a spirit, he has a soul, and he lives in a body. To fall short of the glory of God in any aspect of that being is the number of man (6). Seven is the number of completion and perfection. When Adam was created, he had the nature of God, the mind of God, and was the expression of God (a 777 as it were). When he fell short of the glory by unbelief, he became one short of the glory in spirit, soul, and body, hence 666, the number of A man. It really isn't that hard, folks.
---Linda on 3/27/08


But the head of a false religious system is, with his title of Vicarious Feli Dei (Vicor of the Son of God) totalling 666

Ellen White's name also adds up to 666 so can we conclude that she headed up a false religious system?

It is amazing that some people are so very gullible to believe this kind of trash! It only depicts their radical religious prejudice & hatred for those who do not fit into their narrow belief system. They do not even realize they hate Christians.
---Lee on 3/3/08


What is the Golden Number ?
I bet I could get my name to add up to that!!
This is nonsense!
---alan_of_UK on 2/23/08




This Real ID act may not be the implemenation for the mark of the beast. I'll wait and see. I'll be as shrewd as the world, but as innocent as the Holy Spirit who guides me one day at a time by God's Word. Salvation isn't based on having the beast's mark or not, but on having the mark of the holy cross upon my heart and mind given in my baptism, and relied on every day by remembering Who is in control of my life, and asking the Holy Spirit to fill and empower me to follow Jesus. God bless. Paul
---Paul on 2/22/08


frances ... I did a calculation (using Latin) of a permutation of my name, and the answer was 777.
What does that tell us?
---alan_of_UK on 2/21/08
Nothing, because you are not mentioned in Bible prophecy,

But the head of a false religious system is, with his title of Vicarious Feli Dei (Vicor of the Son of God) totalling 666
---Gina7 on 2/22/08


Revelation is a "Time-Locked-Puzzle" Crystal Clear to the saints of that era, who know the word of God.
I'm sure that the people who were awaiting a messiah had many theories who he was, BUT it wasn't obvious UNTIL the Holy Spirit was released and multiplied through Jesus' Disciples

Likewise, it was thought that Jesus was coming back in Paul's time due to the intense persecution.

Some Speculation is healthy, it's like a military inspection, it keeps us sharp and thinking.
---timotheus on 2/21/08


No good. It has to be 666, Alan. You do not qualify :-)

Seriously, the Pope's title equals 600 plus 60 plus 6, in the Latin numberals . C=100 V=5 etc.
---frances on 2/21/08


frances ... I did a calculation (using Latin) of a permutation of my name, and the answer was 777.
What does that tell us?
---alan_of_UK on 2/21/08




Not in my hand or forhead. I don't believe that I will except this ID at all.>>>No mechanism implementation no where on me or in me. Is that understood? Once again thank you for the warnings. This is Kinda an ickey feeling. I am getting use to these ickey feelings a little.
---catherine on 2/21/08


steveng - even if there is persecution can anything really separate us from the love of Christ?

Romans 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

More Christians have died for Christ in the 20th century than all other centuries put together, so what can we expect?

I believe the rapture theory can be adequately supported by Scripture.
---Lee on 2/12/08


Lee: "...So why need we be concerned? "

Why be concerned? What would happen if the rapture theory is not true? Search the scripture then search your soul then ask the Holy Spirit if it's true. When Jesus returns the dead in Christ will rise first then the living will be caught up. If there was such a thing as the rapture, who are the Christians who are resurrected at the first resurecction?
---Steveng on 2/3/08


The title used by the Pope, when written in Latin, not only tells us he is the Antichrist (Substitute for Christ) but also it totals the value 666 in Latin.
---frances on 2/1/08


#2 Though, it will be years before it would be possible to make this mandatory. My advise: learn how to garden. You may soon not be able to buy veggies at the market.
---Chris on 2/1/08


#1 This may lead into the mark, but as stated by many here, can not actually be the mark for several reasons. What is scary though, is that they now have RFID chips that can be inserted into your wrist that would contain all your identification, records, and financial information. Its easy to see how this could become a "necessity" when stores no longer accept plastic cards, but only RFID chips for payment. Certainly goes along with no being able to buy goods and services.
---Chris on 2/1/08


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Part 11 - To answer the question at hand... Is the realID the mark of the beast? In this stage, No. However, Security officials are currently trying to overcome the obstacle of someone loosing their ID card and are exploring using these chips to link to the RealID database to do away with the need for a card at all. Where is the "best" place to put these chips? In the hand or facial tissue where the skin is the thinnest!
---prchnhiswrd on 1/30/08


Part1 - First of all the Bible says "my people parish for a lack of knowledge" if we do not educate ourselves we will be fooled by the enemy. "If it be possible in those days, even the very elect will be deceived."
I have said that to say this, we must constantly sharpen our minds with Gods Word to make sure our lives line up with His plan. I did a study on 666 and the "Mark of the Beast" and found something very interesting.
---prchnhiswrd on 1/30/08


There are other signs, like that the beast followers do not care about the poor. See Revelations 9.4. As for a mark that we must not take, I would only assume it is a microchip implant that would make us robots in a Satanic system. I guess I would refuse that even if it meant being an outcast and living in the park.
---frances on 1/29/08


It is my understanding that the Mark of the Beast which will be some kind of identification that allows one to buy & sell will be something that will occur after the rapture of the church. So why need we be concerned?
---Lee on 1/29/08


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the same way everyone else here will. this is not the mark of the beast.
---the_watchman on 1/29/08


My line in the sand is the real ID. So I will NOT take it, ever!
---Lynn on 1/28/08


StringAxe ... I think Emcee was joking!
---alan_of_UK on 1/28/08


It's to bad that person did'nt know SCRIPTURE & misled some people just Like so many others in this world today, That's what Happens when People Don't Search the Scriptures for themselves & Just follow any Jim Jones or David Koresh _1Thess.5 Read the whole thing & you might learn how you should treat someone Who has Labored in the Word of God for so Long.
---Duane_M on 1/28/08


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The mark of the beast that we accept is when we accept the lies of the devil over the truth. That is the sign. If we are looking to recognize true Christians, they are the ones who have accepted and even promoted the lies. Whether they do so in laziness or ignorance is not my concern.
---frances on 1/27/08


Most Christians will not recognize that they are receiving the mark. Most Christians believe that they will be raptured before that event. They'll believe that the mark they are receiving is only a mark leading up to the real mark. They have been tricked by Satan. God will surely let the person He favors know at the time it happens.
---Steveng on 1/27/08


Do we really think something that open and carnal would be the mark? Considering that the Bible is about our spiritual welfare rather than our flesh, wouldn't giving our HAND in fellowship and our FOREHEAD (brain) in interpretation of the word be more likely. You know, like the new world friendly versions of the Bible, and those vibrant, toothy grin, love 'em all churches that teach only llloooovvvvve. (and give money so we can grow..almost forgot that).
---mikefl on 1/26/08


Emcee:

And just where do you get the idea that we will all be chipped? and that such chips will have 666 on them?

For centuries people have screamed hysterically that this and that event signals the Apocalypse or Rapture or Mark of the Beast, etc. - and they were wrong. So much error makes people jaded about prophecy, so when the REAL thing happens, people will be lulled into thinking "oh, it's those hysterical crackpots again - pay them no mind" and they will be caught unaware.
---StrongAxe on 1/26/08


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Also, the "7 year tribulation period" is a false teaching,taking last 7 years of a 490 year prophecy in Daniel,a time period alloted only to the Jews and the coming of the Messiah which ended in 34 AD,and pushing it way into the undetermined future as a "tribulation period". This 7 year period occurred 27 AD to 34 AD. In the middle of the "week" in 31 AD Christ was crucified and sacrifice and oblation ceased. The sacrificial system ended because Christ was ultimate sacrifice
---Gina7 on 1/26/08


"Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem (457 BC) to Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks,and threescore and two weeks (one day=year, 69 weeks or 483 years. 457 BC plus 483 = 27 AD when Jesus was baptized) Daniel 9:25

This prophecy predicts the coming of the Messiah. The next 7 years are the last 7 of the prophecy in the midst of the "week"or 7 years Jesus is crucified
---Gina7 on 1/26/08


And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week,and in the midst of the week he shall cause sacrifice and oblation to cease" Dan 9:27. In Daniel 9:24 it says "Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people" One day = year in this prophecy, and 70 weeks = 490 years. 483 brought us to the Messiah's baptism by John in 27 AD, and the last 7 years start with Jesus 3.5 year ministry,and He was crucified in the "midst of the week(7 years)"
The 490 years flow in order
---Gina7 on 1/26/08


The prophecy says "unto the Messiah the prince" Dan 9:25 and "he shall confirm the covenant with many for 1 week,and in the midst of the week he shall cause sacrifice and oblation to cease" Dan 9:27.

This prophecy belongs to Jesus,not the antichrist. Does the antichrist confirm God's covenant (10 commandments,New Testamant?) Should the last 7 yrs of this in order prophecy be yanked out and placed in the undeterminate future? The answer to both is NO /No 7 yr tribulation!
---Gina7 on 1/26/08


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We need not worry about the mark of the beast,for if one is a true born-again believer,the Lord will deliver us out before that day comes- Tommy on 1021008

This is not Biblical. The Rapture escape doctrine is not Biblical, the 7 year tribulation period is a man made doctrine that takes a 7 year prophecy in Daniel that belongs to the Messiah the Prince, Jesus Christ, and places it on the AntiChrist instead. Once again, the devil trying to be God by having a Messiah prophecy applied to him!
---Gina7 on 1/26/08


The pre-trib rapture doctrine was invented by John Darby in England about 150 years ago. It had no place in historic Christian teaching.
---InimicusStultitiae on 1/23/08
Amen, this false teaching implies there are two 2nd comings as well, which the Bible does not teach! We will live until the one and only 2nd coming, and the Mark of the Beast will be a test for all mankind, to see who truly loves God by refusing it. No rapture to take anyone away before the test
---Gina7 on 1/26/08


Jordan ... "Its not the mark, but part of a chain of events leading up to the mark of the beast"
Who told you?
---alan_of_UK on 1/25/08


Duane M, I dunno,35yrs. of "telling people" . I remember a fellow just like you, who led a group of followers up the mountain,waiting for sunrise and "Armageddon" Guess what? it didn't happen. Sometimes prophecy is best left to what's already written. Prophecy never was a matter of "guesswork" No one today has an "inside scoop" When it happens the manifestation will be obvious.
---1st_cliff on 1/25/08


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Thanks Mike
---Betty on 1/25/08


Emcee, thanks. The German Mark idea gave me a chuckle too. Pax tibi!
---InimicusStultitiae on 1/24/08


One things for sure, BY "US" TALKING ABOUT IT THOSE POEPLE THAT ARE STILL HERE WILL RECOGNISE IT WHEN IT COMES UPON THEM,
Some Good has come from this topic, WHO knows how many people will be saved by this Discussion on "the Mark of the Beast", The people that thought/think we were Crazy will thank us one day, If not in person, they will in there Heart... Remember, By them we are Evily Spoken of, BUT, By The Angels of God we are highly Spoken of.
---Duane_M on 1/24/08


This Blog is like reading the funnies The money is already marked "in God we trust" & now the people are going to be Id-ed with a 666 micro chip.Hence the saying "Only in America""
IS:: the german Mark is a good one too.!!!!!
---Emcee on 1/23/08


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The pre-trib rapture doctrine was invented by John Darby in England about 150 years ago. It had no place in historic Christian teaching.
---InimicusStultitiae on 1/23/08


Well said Mima.We need not worry about the mark of the beast,for if one is a true born-again believer,the Lord will deliver us out before that day comes.Only he that letteth will let til he be taken out of the way.The Spirit of God is the restrainer and it cannot be taken out without the Church.Lo I am with you always,even to the end of the world,i.e. Age.
---Tommy on 1/22/08


#1 Alan of Uk - If you read what the Id act is about it was an act brought on to increase security after events such as 911. Its not the mark, but part of a chain of events leading up to the mark of the beast, in fact its not even directly related but the need to improve security measures will implement the need of a safer security system. The system we use at the moment (credit cards, Money) is not 100% safe, they will eventually bring in something globally to replace our current system.
---Jordan on 1/22/08


#2 The world is falling right into the hands of satin. We are surely living in the last days, when the lord will come back no one knows. Matthew 7:14 "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it"
---Jordan on 1/22/08


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Part #1-- in spite of what the naysayers say there will be a rapture(a catching up) of the believers. This will take place before the mark of the beast will be given out lest a unknowledgeable believer would take it unknowingly and thereby condemning himself to hell. This cannot happen because the Lord takes care of his own!
---Mima on 1/22/08


Part#2-If you're a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ and trusting him for your salvation. Be calm, be at peace, indeed the Lord cannot fail us and so we are to rest easy.
The world will be so shook up after the rapture that mankind will generally quickly accept the mark of the beast. Those who refused will be beheaded!!!
---Mima on 1/22/08


We as Christians should enbrace the thought that our Lord is returning soon, Personally I Long for that day and pray for it EVERYDAY to come, Like i've been telling people for 35 years now, IT'S only Doomsday for the Lost, NOT us!
---Duane_M on 1/22/08


This is not yet the Mark of the Beast. It enforces nothing. Only gives you the rights of citizenship. You are acting like my mother did living in Nebraska, constant fear for the end, because there were no hills to run to and hide. Try to understand what you are reading re the end of time. Revelation tells us God has it under control!
---dan on 1/22/08


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Gina7,
I never intended to ipmly that they(666,Mark or Name) are the same. Sorry for the misunderstanding, I believe what & where you'll receive it will be determined by the individual, The Forehead for reluctant followers(Don't want to die), The Hand for the Free Followers.
The Number,Name or Mark will determine your position within it's society. Just a Guess of Course, I don't plan on being here!
---Duane_M on 1/21/08


I was told the mark of the beast will be the German Mark, the currency of the new Nazi Fourth Reich.
---InimicusStultitiae on 1/21/08


Jordan ... How can the ID be anything to do with the mark of the beast.
IDs are all different ... the Mark wil be the same on everyone
---alan_of_UK on 1/21/08


The Real ID act is part of a process leading up to the mark of the beast. I reackon that the mark will be brought on the whole world suddenly. How will this happen? At this time we see the market heading downward, if there was a market crash it gives time to introduce a "safer" system. Its the perfect time to implement the mark of the beast. Revelation 13:17 "and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name"
---Jordan on 1/20/08


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Rev 14:7 "Worship him that made heaven, the earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters"

where are these words found? Are they familiar? Yes....

"For in 6 days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the 7th day, wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it" Exodus 20:11
---Gina7 on 1/19/08


So we have WORSHIP IN Rev 14:7 in the same words as found in the 4th commandment, the one that deals with WORSHIP of God on the Sabbath, with mention of the seal of God being in the forehead, which represents beliefs (Rev 7:2) but in contrast to the worship of the beast, and the mark, taken in forehead or hand, which also represents WORSHIP "If any man WORSHIP the beast, and take his mark" Rev 14:9
---Gina7 on 1/19/08


"If any man WORSHIP the beast, and take his mark" Rev 14:9

If the seal in the forehead (beliefs) deals with worship of God on the 7th day Sabbath, what does the mark of the beast represent in false worship? The mark that can be taken by believing in something (forehead) or just doing it (the hand) to go along with it. What is the opposite of the WORSHIP of the God of creation on the 7th day Sabbath?
---Gina7 on 1/19/08


The Mark of the Beast(666)
---Duane_M on 1/16/08
"That no man might buy or sell save he that had the mark, the name of the beast, or the number of his name" Rev 13:17

3 separate things: MARK, NAME, NUMBER. Verse 18 states the number is 666 (and that it is the number of a MAN), so the Number of the beast is not the same thing as the Mark.

The mark of the beast is not 666. The number of the beast is. Better restudy the Bible to determine what the Mark is.
---Gina7 on 1/19/08


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Passage Revelation 13:16-18: Youngs Literal Translation

16.... that it may give to them a mark upon their right hand or upon their foreheads,

17and that no one may be able to buy, or to sell, except he who is having the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18Here is the wisdom! He who is having the understanding, let him count the number of the beast, for the number of a man it is, and its number [is] 666.
---Gina7 on 1/19/08


What we want is seal of God: Rev 7:2,3 Youngs Literal Translation:

2and I saw another messenger going up from the rising of the sun, having a seal of the living God, and he did cry with a great voice to the four messengers, to whom it was given to injure the land and the sea, saying,

3`Do not injure the land, nor the sea, nor the trees, till we may seal the servants of our God upon their foreheads.'

THE SEAL OF GOD IS UPON THE FOREHEAD (not the hand but only the forehead).
---Gina7 on 1/19/08


THE SEAL OF GOD IS UPON THE FOREHEAD (not the hand but only the forehead) Rev 7:3. Forehead represents beliefs, the mind. But the Mark can be taken in the forehead (beliefs) or the hand (representing actions, but no belief)
Something to think about, since Rev 14:9 says "If any man WORSHIP the beast, and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead or in his hand"


WORSHIP is the issue
---Gina7 on 1/19/08


WORSHIP is the issue, and if the Mark is in the forehead, it represents a false religious belief, or in the hand, not believing it, but pretending to go along with it to save your life, since Rev 13:15 states "as many as would not WORSHIP the image of the beast should be killed"
---Gina7 on 1/19/08


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And on the same theme of WORSHIP involving the mark in the hand or forehead, look at worship of God in Rev 14:7 "Worship him that made heaven, the earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters". You either worship the Beast, and receive the mark in the forehead (beliefs) or the hand (going along with it) or you worship God, who made heaven and earth the sea, etc. The God of Creation. Rev 7:3 states God's seal is in the forehead, and Rev 14:1 says the Fathers name is written in the forehead.
---Gina7 on 1/19/08


Duane--I really believe I would have put it a little less graphic.I can honestly say I would have chosen a better word.
---Tommy on 1/18/08


Good Job you Guys!!!
It pisses Satan off when you get his NUMBER!
(sorry for the pun). And you make the Angels of God sing & give praises unto our Father. Thank You for that, Your Loving Brother Duane
---Duane_M on 1/18/08


I am absolutely taking no chances. I do not trust the Government. Anything remotely looking like or as if it may be the mark of the beast I do not want it. Thank you. You can argue, reason, all you want to. I don't have to worry about it anyways. My God will help me. But no mark on me. I must say it is a good thing that we are discussing this. Thank you Jesus for Christianet.
---catherine on 1/17/08


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As soon as they start demanding that some kind of ID is tattooed on the hand or forehead, ir implanted in the hand as a microship (or some other device that is permanently attached to your body), it doesn't match the descrition of the Mark of the Beast. (Especially since it's NOT used for "buying or selling").

However, the Mark may be something further along similar lines, so one should always be vigilant (but NOT paranoid).
---StrongAxe on 1/17/08


I strongly object to the topic of this blog. Not the subject matter (as CN has a wide variety of subjects), but its tone:

Rather than asking if Real ID is the Mark of the Beast, it is asserting it as a FACT and then asking people how they will deal with that fact.

It's as loaded question as "have you stopped beating your wife?", which has NO correct answer.
---StrongAxe on 1/17/08


Good Job Darlene!
You'll ALL know when it's the Mark of the Beast(666),
BECAUSE they will KILL you if you Don't take it. In fact they will cut your head off if you don't take it!!!
They said the same thing about Truman or Rosevellt when they started Sociel Security.
---Duane_M on 1/16/08


Please explain I know nothing about it. I will not except it.
---catherine on 1/16/08


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Billa- Read Mt 24 from beginning to end. Jesus speaks in a chronogical order, so write down in order the timeline of what He says. You will see that YES infact all living mankind will endure the hardships of tribulation. The question you need to answer for yourself is "Are you prepared-do you have the strength- to endure until the end?" Luke 21:36
---Jew-D on 1/15/08


The Mark of the Beast(Antichrist_666) is NOT Enforced until AFTER 3 1/2 yrs. of his 7 yr. reign & this WON'T happen until the New Temple is rebuilt in Jerusalem.
When you see Isreal SIGN a 7 yr PEACE AGREEMENT & everybody saying peace peace, THEN swift destruction COMES & ALL the things you've heard will come to pass.
I believe it's around this point that the BRIDE of Christ shall be taken from the Earth! YLBD
---Duane_M on 1/15/08


question? if the mark that Bush has signed in,is thre mark of the beast, then what happened to the rapture, that is suppose to take christians out of this world before it happens.,or will we as christians have to go through this too.
---billa on 1/14/08


I agree with Alan we already are loaded down with cards and numbers. I think I would just have to say so "What's New"? No Christian will be given the Mark of the Beast without knowing exactly it's of the Devil and be given a chance to choose between God and Satan. People become so afraid of what they may inadvertantly get into they fail to read the Bible and see what God won't let them get into.
---Darlene_1 on 1/14/08


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In rthe UK we have National Insurance number, Driving licence numbers, Medical Record Number, Tax refernce number, Emploeee number, European Health Card Number, Birth Certificate Number, and possibly in the future a National ID number
I wonder which of these will be the sign of the beast?
Jack & Cliff are right & Betty seems to have a silly obsession
---alan_of_UK on 1/14/08


666 or 616? Both symbolic. The number represents a system. Current IDs match Revelations' description. The Mark is to be "on" the forehead or right hand. The Greek word really means "near" or "close to". Now, cut that strip off your ID and turn in over to see what part of your photo it's "near". But, the Mark is much more than just an ID. It too is a "system". I haven't had an ID for years, and I can't get a job, insurance, drive, etc.
---Christopher on 1/14/08


It is the anti-christ who imposes the Mark of the Beast and I don't think Bush is him. Exactly what law did he pass? What results from this law. No doubt we are moving to a one world economy but he hasn't imposed the Mark of the Beast because he is not the antichrist:)
---jody on 1/13/08


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