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Are USA Presidents Christians

Have all of the U.S. Presidents been Christian? Is there a religious criteria or guideline concerning who can be president and, if so, what is it?

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Donna66,

The pancake comment was made in jest. I have a dry sense of humor that does not translate well on the internet.

You assume that my research is done on the web. I never said that those symbols are unique to freemasonry.

I did not say direct recrruiting either. With indirect recruiting, you do not have to ask.

I bet these events are mainly OT or something refering back to OT.

Please Donna66, no more.
---aka.joseph on 6/21/10


akaJoseph-- Officer installations are not pancake breakfasts. And Masons do not recruit. If you want to join you must ASK one.

I've seen the back of a dollar bill, but my research tells me that the pyramid and "all seeing-eye" are symbols NOT unique to freemasonry. Nor is the phrase "new world order". A lot of what you read on the internet is not documented in any way.

There is nothing for the Masonic orders to "indoctrinate" one into. They use imagry from the building of Soloman temple (and other biblical events) to illustrate basic morality. That's what their "rituals" do.
---Donna66 on 6/21/10


Donna66,

Pancake breakfasts and fish fries are not masonic rituals. They are fundraisers and recruiting oppotunities.

I know several masons well. I do not have any family members. I have read different accounts of ex-masons, who are on the run or in seclusion. Just look at the back of the one dollar bill and do some research.

I am glad to hear that you were in attendence, but not indoctrinated. Sounds like me in catechism and catholic high school. :~)
---aka.joseph on 6/21/10


aka.joseph---How many Masons do you know really WELL? I lived in close relationship to these men well into adulthood. I've never met anyone who could inerringly hide their real feelings, even in unguarded moments, for years at a time.

I've been to some Masonic functions and belonged (briefly) to Job's daughters ( I found them both incredibly boring). The fact that freemasonry is a "secret" organization, leaves them open to the wildest of men's imaginations.
---Donna66 on 6/18/10


Donna66 - what I am saying is the danger and acceptance that Mormonism is simply another Christian denomination and the souls that could the lost in that lie.
Islam suffers from no illusory claims on the lordship of Christ.
For those seeking Christ Islam is more easily seen as errant.
For we know its aim is to destroy all vestiges of Christianity and Davidic lineage. I'm not so sure if most Christians are keen to the dangers of Mormonism.
Christians will suffer in this country because many of us do not know what and why we believe.
God bless.
---larry on 6/18/10




Donna66,

The basis of becoming a masonic recruit is not based on belief in Satan. Satan loves when people do not believe he exists like your dad and those who believe in humanism like your brother. It is like puttyin his evil hands.

As a 32nd and 33rd degree mason, I find it hard to believe in their innocence. Masonic lodges don't have any windows for a reason.
---aka.joseph on 6/18/10


Higgins -- Since we've had 17 presidents who were Masons, it should be of no surprise that all our wars should have been fought during the administration of one of them.
---Donna66 on 6/18/10


Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ:

If you want to know what Freemasonry brings to the table please consider that virtually every war the United States has been involved in, both domestic and foreign, has had a Freemason president at the helm either at the beginning, during, or at the tail end of a conflict (often times at the beginning, middle and end). Please tell me that isn't coincidental.

American Revolution - George Washington
Civil War - James Buchanan & Andrew Johnson
Spanish American War - Teddy Roosevelt
World War II - Franklin D. Roosevelt/Truman
Korea - Harry Truman
Vietnam - Lyndon B. Johnson
Desert Storm - George H.W. Bush
Balkans - Bill Clinton
Afghan and Iraq War - George H. Bush
---Higgins on 6/18/10


Some of our fore fathers, I am sure were Christians. But generally all governments has a problem in faith of the living God. And the world shows it. I am sorry but it's the true. God is not going to allow the wicked man to win. We all suffer under wicked rulers. Not so if God was the ruler, He would make things right. "God wants to rule man, but, man won't be ruled by God". Hallelujah. Ahhh.
---catherine on 6/17/10


\\I believe George Washington was. He didn't even take any pay because he was a public servant.
---fay on 6/15/10\\

I don't know where you got this idea. The salary of the President of the United States was $2,500 a year (a hefty sum) at the time of George Washington.

As far as his "Christianity," he refused to attend Communion Services, much to the sorrow of his wife Martha.

Finally, to answer the original question, the U. S. Constitution specifically says that NO oath or religious test will be required to hold office under its authority.
---Cluny on 6/17/10




aka joseph --- I don't know about other "secret" organizations. I doubt the "illuminati" still exist, but I have no way of knowing for sure.

I know more about Masonry, since every male member of my family has belonged. My father was a 32 degree Mason and I doubt he ever heard of Lucifer. One frustration I had witnessing to him was that he did not believe in either hell or the devil. He knew nothing of Mormonisn.

My brother was one of very few 33rd degree Masons. To him the NWO meant a time in the future when, hopefully, men would get along peacefully. He never spoke approvingly of a one world government. He was never passionate about any "spiritual" beliefs that I knew of.
---Donna66 on 6/17/10


no donna66, freemasonry is not the only secret society that is responsible.
---aka.joseph on 6/17/10


yes, it is worldwide. There are no doubt masonic lodges in every developed nation.
But surely you don't attribute all the evils around the world to freemasonry?

What about all the dictators of the world, even pre-dating Masonry, who oppressed, killed and tortured people by the thousands.
Look at crime, immorality, starvation, AIDS.. are the Masons responsible for that?

You are correct about the NWO. It was in about the 60's that it began to be mentioned.
Though the term is found in freemasonry, I see that as the one world government under the Anti-Christ. And I'm pretty sure the Anti-Christ doesn't need a bunch of Masons
to fulfill his purpose.
---Donna66 on 6/17/10


Donna66,

We were talking about freemasonry in the US. But, if you want to expand to the globe, freemasonry is worldwide. Look at the state of the world.

Since, I have been born in 1964, every president has mentioned the new world order in some degree.
---aka.joseph on 6/17/10


larry, if we were a Christian nation, why not 'Praise Be To Jesus'?
---aka.joseph on 6/17/10


aka joseph --What IS the state of the nation? Are there any other nations in a "better state"?
---Donna66 on 6/17/10


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larry -- Yes, of course, Momonism teaches some strange things and is far from biblical. But are you saying there is a danger of more people converting to Mormonism? or becoming believers in their doctrine.? Is that the "spiritual" danger you see?
---Donna66 on 6/17/10


higgins/donna66/larry/atheist/mike #2/2

...just look at the state of the nation.

Matthew 7:16-20 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit, but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Larry - the use of the word God is pretty generic nowadays James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God, thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

Mike - look at Chronicles 9:13
---aka.joseph on 6/17/10


higgins/donna66/larry/atheist/mike #1/2

higgins and atheist -
6660/12=555. 10*55=550 and not 555 (I might of misunderstood the formula.)

Exact measurements are imperative in freemasonry. Ironically, Freemasonry originated in Egypt. There is an Egyptian pyramid on the back of the dollar bill among many other Freemason symbols.

other important numbers in the hidden world are 3, 6, 7, 11, and 13. Six is the number of man. Three is the number of perfection. So, three sixes in a row is the perfect man or humanity perfected. The US had 13 original colonies, and NY is the 11th. Twin towers standing together look like an 11.

Donna66 -
//[Have Freemason Presidents] hurt the nation in any way?//...
---aka.joseph on 6/17/10


Yes, Higgins Mormonism is diabolical with Free Mason roots.

Donna66, what I said is that Mormonism is evey bit as SPIRITUALLY dangerous as Islam.

Worse, many are fooled into believe they are walking spiritually with Christ where there is no such illusion with Islam.

To believe Christ will return to Jackson County Missouri where he will set up his kingdom is every bit blasphemous as the Islamic belief that he was just another "prophet."

Its the soul that is in danger not the body.

BTW Higgins, on the top of that obelisk is the inscription "Praise Be To God" in Latin.
---larry on 6/16/10


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Higgans -- Exactly what "Luciferian" principles do freemasons teach? How do you know that Lucifer and Jospeh Smith wrote the Book of Mormon. (Jospeh Smith, certainly...but Lucifer? I don't think that can be documented)

Sixteen or seventeen presidents of the U.S. have been Freemasons, starting with Geo. Washington. Has this hurt the nation in any way?
---Donna66 on 6/16/10


Higgins,

The original plans for the Washington Monument was 600 feet and included a colonnade.

Site problem delays at 150 feet high and the Civil War postponed constuction. Mills, the designer died in 1855. In 1876 construction recommenced, and George P. Marsh was ambassador to Italy, was asked for advice concerning completion. He suggested that Mills's projected height of 600 feet be reduced to the standard Egyptian proportions of ten times base to height, or 555 feet, a 55-foot width having been established. Marsh also strongly recommended that the circular 'temple' base be eliminated.

Sorry, but your fanciful historical paranoia is not substantiated by history.
---atheist on 6/16/10


Dear Donna66:

Mormonism is not an American invention - it is a Freemasonic invention. Truth is, before Joseph Smith and Lucifer sat down to write the Book of Mormon, he was a Freemason, just like his dad and brothers before him.

If you knew about Freemasonry you would see that practicing Mormonism is practicing Freemasonry through song and church chimes. Fact is, almost all of his temple ceremonies, stories and traditions came directly from his freemasonic training and upbringing.

To understand what a Mormon president would bring to the table, you must first understand what the Freemasons bring to the table and what their agenda is. I can tell you they both follow Luciferian principles.
---Higgins on 6/16/10


Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ:

It may come as a shock to some of you, but America is not a "Christian Nation" as some of you would like to believe. A tiny population of Pilgrims landing on Plymouth Rock does not a nation make. Within one generation the colonies were taken over by Colonial capitalism (greed) and secret societies. By the time of the Revolutionary War, Freemasonry was the battle-cry.

Ben Franklin was a Freemason and member of Europe's Hellfire Club, George Washington was a Freemason and ordered the streets of Washington D.C. to be constructed in the shape of a pentagram which is used in Satanism and Witch craft. Our government was built by such people and our government has only employed such people.
---Higgins on 6/16/10


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Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ:

Piggybacking on my last post, I would just like to add that the Washington Monument is nothing more than a 555 foot tall male phallic symbol known as an obelisk. Why 555 feet? Well, Freemasons (Satanists), believe 10 is the perfect number. It represents man (1) standing beside the universe (0).

Now, take 10 and multiply it by another Satanic number, 666 (the mark of the Beast), and you come up with 6,660. Divide 6,660 by the number of inches in a foot (12) and you come up with 555 feet. Hey, no one said Satanists or Freemasons were good people, but it is clear they have a good understanding of basic math...too bad they can't balance our national budget. :0)
---Higgins on 6/16/10


the funny thing about this question is do these presidents live a life of 'christ- likeness' or are their christian life is based on the agenda of their party.

do the verses they read from the bible affect how they make foreign & domestic policies?

so if a president read the book of joshua, will he start a war?
what about the life of solomon, will he deregulating markets so people will involved in free market & get rich?
or the life of david, will he expand an empire?
or is it plain self interest of a nation?
---mike on 6/16/10


larry --You are correct. The criteria are unwritten, but they are changing. I remember when Jack Kennedy was running for president. We had never had a Roman Catholic president before.
"We don't want our country to be run by the Pope!", many protested. But it soon became obvious that neither Catholicism nor the Pope had much effect on how he governed.

If Romney runs again, it may be similar. I've never heard him speak of Mormonism. I feel it teaches much error, but don't foresee a nation directed by the will of the Mormon Church.

Islam is the religion of those sworn to kill Americans...Mormonism, however, is an uniquely American religion. And, with all it's faults, I can't see it as more dangerous.
---Donna66 on 6/16/10


Yes there is religious criteria but its not written. There's a reason why an avowed atheist has not been elected president. When people say there's no criteria there's criteria.
We like our presidents to speak generally about God, but let the president mention the power of Christ or pray for a healing publicly and the wheels will really fly off.



The president can't even say the real name of the holiday "Thanksgiving to God"



If you think we'd elect an avowed Wiccan, Muslim or even LDS think again. And NO Obama is not Muslim he's a very very confused Christian.

Our first test will be Romney and believe me the LDS is every bit spiritually dangerous as Islam.
---larry on 6/15/10


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I believe George Washington was. He didn't even take any pay because he was a public servant.
---fay on 6/15/10


NO, None that I know of.
Religion & politics don't mix because politics Are corrupted. And beside it all, they'd use it for their own gain, for their name & Not the name of The Lord.
---Lawrence on 6/15/10


You like fiesty women huh Emcee? I call 'em as I see 'em!
You know me too well, I'm just and old softie most of the time.
---NVBarbara on 2/8/08


While the vast majority of U.S. Presidents have some sort of religious background, it would be judging for me to state that they were or were not Christians. Any religious criteria is really decided by the voters based on what the candidates says, and not some written criteria.
---wivv on 2/5/08


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PS I'll be your seconds.
---Emcee on 2/5/08


OK Frances, I'll bite...how does being murdered increase the likelihood that someone was a Christian?
---NVBarbara on 2/4/08


MikeM is correct, no test for faith. The 'beloved' father of our country, Washington was a pacticing Mason, Lyndon Johnson was a foul mouthed pig. Kennedy was a RC which would disqualify as Christian to some. Beyond that he was a slimy womanizer hooked on pain pills-Camalot indeed! Don't EVEN get me started on Clinton's morals!
Check the Net for the athiestic, diest, and other schools of thought some presidents held.
---NVBarbara on 2/4/08


They may use Christianity but they are certainly not all Christian. Lincoln was assassinated, I think that increases the likelihood he was a Christian. Membership of Skull and Bones disqualifies the Bush dynasty from being counted Christian. Clinton approves of abortion, like both the top presidential candidates on the mass media.
---frances on 1/25/08


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This is a settled question. NO religious criteria for presidents or anyone else in public office! The constitution "says no religious test shall be required for public office" No test means no test. The 'establishment clause' of the first amendment also makes this clear. The US constitution is a secular document-thus
the goverment is secular, period. Nothing hazy about it.
---MikeM on 1/23/08


It would be hard to decide what religious criteria could be applied to a presidential candidate. Which religion would they have to be? And, how would you prove that they are really of that religion and not just a pretender.
---Susie on 1/23/08


Thanks to all who have replied thus far. I understand that there isn't, but in your opinions, should there be a religious criteria concerning who can run for president?
---AlwaysOn on 1/22/08


Most U.S. Presidents were Episcopalian accorindg to the show Who Wants To Be Millionair. This was one of the questions and Episcopalian was the answer. There is no religious criteria because this country doesnt "want" to mix Church and State. But now a days, religion plays a big part in elections since there are more and more Christians everyday who can influence a vote, i.e. Huckabee.
---Ghost on 1/22/08


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** Jack...Answer me one question. How do you know that every president was a Christian? I figure we'll find out the truth about that on judgment day.**

So far as the historical evidence is concerned, every president has been some kind of confessing Christian, just not modern pop-evangelical.

The real question is who are you, Susie, to determine who is and who is not a Christian?
---Jack on 1/22/08


** Jack- I am distantly related to WJ Bryant. The whole trial was a joke to everyone but the fundamentalist. **

Et reliqua.

INHERIT THE WIND is great drama, but lousy history.
---Jack on 1/22/08


Bill: President Carter's first name is Jimmy, not Bill. He has been active as a Sunday School teacher in his Baptist church in Plains since he left office. He is a born again believer in Christ.
---Trish9863 on 1/18/08


Jack...Answer me one question. How do you know that every president was a Christian? I figure we'll find out the truth about that on judgment day.
---Susie on 1/18/08


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The civil war was not fought primarily over nor did it end slavery. Lincoln ended slavery not because it was morally right but rather to punish the south for sucession.
---pg1 on 1/18/08


Jack- I am distantly related to WJ Bryant. The whole trial was a joke to everyone but the fundamentalist.

1.The 'Butler Act' most did not take serious.

2. Bryant in reality was a progresive.

3.It was mostly about revenue for the town, and the newspapers.

4. Through a joke, its social impact was trememdous. Fundamentalist learned that 'open debate' was something to avoid. They never forgot that lesson.
---MikeM on 1/18/08


**When I think of fundamentalism Sinclair Lewis novels come to mind, or the Scopes trial.**

Did you know the entire Scopes affair was a set-up by the town fathers and ACLU to deliberately flout the Tennessee law to put it to the test--and draw attention to Dayton?

Scopes wasn't even the biology teacher. He was the football coach who was willing to be the fall guy, merely reading a few sentences from Darwin.

BTW--approved texts for Tennessee at the time taught evolution.
---Jack on 1/18/08


almost all politicians claim to be christians. They wouldn't be elected if they didn't. But the Bible says you'll know them by their works and other characteristics. Even the devil believes in Jesus. So who knows - only God Knows the heart.
Many of the founding fathers were deists - even TJ spoke of Jesus and many supported Christianity but didn't want it forced on the populace. They had come from England after the religious wars
---Andrea on 1/18/08


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Definetly all presidents were not Christian.Grant for one was a drunkard and cursed also.I think Lincoln was a great man and probably may have been Christian although the war wasn't christian it sure freed black people.I think there should be better ways than war to resolve diffirences but hey christans are still the minority and you have hotheads to deal with.
---shirley on 1/18/08


The term "pop-evangelicals, a decadent form of Protestantism" I place as todays fundamentalism. When I think of fundamentalism Sinclair Lewis novels come to mind, or the Scopes trial. Its popularity, the common denominator of protestantism.

As to presidents,there is no 'religious criteria' at all, the constitution is clear, 'no religious test' (oath) required for office, period. The first 5 presidents were Deist, freemasons, Unitarian, many more were masons.
---MikeM on 1/18/08


Bill Carter seemed credible, but I didn't know much about what he did and said. He seemed like he was very easy, not trying to push and put on an image, so he seemed possibly humble, which would be Christian.

But Abraham doing what he did to the South, in order to stop slavery...not how Jesus has taught us to handle a problem. And having soldiers kill noncombatants in Iraq does not sound even **secularly** pro-life to me.
---Bill_bila5659 on 1/18/08


They've all been Christians, yes--just not pop-evangelicals, a decadent form of Protestantism which is trying to set itself up as the norm of Christianity, except maybe Bush fils.

(Notice, I do not even dignify it by the name of "fundamentalism," itself an honorable term that has a specific meaning.)
---Jack on 1/18/08


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