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Is God A Loving God

In the Old Testament God is presented as primarily an Angry God, (Malachi 4) and in the New Testament as Loving (John 3:16) Which is bigger, or are they equal?

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We have come to know and have believed the love which God has for us God is love, and the one who abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.1 John 4:16
[ God Is Love ] Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.1 John 4:7
---lisa on 5/26/08

God Loves all mankind..His creation. He created us all in His image.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
---lisa on 5/26/08

God is a loving God to only those who loves Him. "I love those who loves me". It is somewhere in the Bible. If you are not, nor never have been tested by God then you are not saved. Not by His Blood you are not.
---catherine on 4/3/08

You may be a watchman, but what are you watching? Behold the Lamb of God which taketh away the sin of the world.

God's wrath has been fully satisfied in, by, and through His sacrifice of His Son. He saw the travail of His soul and was satisfied. You will never be satisfied with anything until you see what God the Father is satisfied with.
---Linda on 4/1/08

I am reminded that it was the sinners who loved being around Jesus. Wonder why that was? And it was the religious of the day who looked God in the face and missed Him who Jesus pronounced the woes on. They were the ones trying to trap Him and kill Him. There's some folks on here who don't sound anything like Him. His sheep know His voice and they follow. If the message you preach is not a message of hope (Col.1:23), it is not the gospel and does not issue from the God of hope (Rom.15:13).
---Linda on 3/28/08

And the angels said, "Peace on earth, good will to men." The ministry of condemnation has been done away. If you are still ministering out of that old done away covenant, you are going to get old done away results. The results of that old covenant: shuts up faith, works wrath, concludes all under sin....

I'll take the new covenant, which exceeds in glory, anyday.
---Linda on 3/28/08

Jeremiah. Lord, those other prophets are preaching peace, peace, God will come through for you. God said, they are not getting any messages from me. Christ has taken away your sins. Has He? If He hasn't, if He doesn't, you will die and go to HELL! Jews and Gentiles alike. Christ came and yes He has alreasdy come, because the heart of man is deplorable. Desperately, wicked. Condemnation. You are already condemned on your way to HELL, if Jesus Christ does not save you!
---catherine on 3/23/08

You who preach anger and wrath: Why would Jesus preach kindness, patience, and peace? If you were correct, instead of a donkey, He would have stormed the city with military might. He did not. If you were correct, He would have hit the high priests with lightening bolts, searing their feet to the ground. He did not. If you were right, He would have zapped Satan into Hell and taken away his free will. He did not. Before you react to this post with hostility, ask yourself, WWJD?
---Deb on 3/22/08

I am a Watchman sounding the Trumpet of Warning.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 3/13/08

I support Dr Rich and Catherine and all those who have a righteous fear of God. God disciplines us all the time, to show us that we are doing evil things. When we are born again, we stop doing those things because we read our KJV or other reliable version (annotated) of the Bible. The discipline does not stop but it reduces. Then the devil attacks us.
---frances008 on 3/12/08

"I, the Lord, do not change." Mal 3:6

"I am the Alpha and the Omega..." Rev 1:8

"...they will have to give an accounting to him who stands ready to judge..." 1Pet 4:5

"...God is love." 1John 4:8

In OT & NT, God's righteousness, expressed via wrath & judgment on the unrepentant (2Thes 1, Rom 2, Rev 19), triumphs thru love in the form of salvation for those who repent & claim God's covenant promise fulfilled in Christ.
---AG on 3/12/08

Well put duanedudleymartin>>>One of my many callings is to inform people of God's wrath.
---catherine on 3/12/08

That may be what you and others UNDERSTAND about everything that is SAID about God, but what really MATTERS you love Him? (keep in mind that He is the 'origin' of everything that was created).

Do you APPRECIATE all that He did? Do you love Him for all creation? (He also sent His Son for us).

Do you have it in you to LOVE?

Yes or No.
---greg on 3/11/08

If you think about it God showed both love and wrath in the O.T.
Jesus showed both love and wrath in the new testament.
When Jesus fulfilled all things God gave him the right to have mercy and wrath and he should be loved and feared as his Father was.
He's not coming back meek and he will have his wrath on the ungodly.
---Frank on 3/11/08

I Don't know what NEW Testament you have been reading, BUT my KJV IS full of Gods Wrath to Come & the Punishment of Man & the Judgment that IS coming...
Not even the Heavens shall escape HIS Wrath!

I guess it's all in what parts you CHOOSE to read that leads your Imaginations about God?

He IS the SAME as he was in the Beginning & he will STAY the SAME in the END, HE Don't change, ONLY your IMAGINATIONS of HIM does...
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 3/11/08

God is not always a loving God to His own people. I do not understand where this junk comes from, that God is always a loving Father. God does not always appear that way to His own people. Unbelievers should understand this. God is not a loving Father to you. Satan is your daddy. God is a God that is a God of business. He intends to place Satan's children in H E L L.
---catherine on 3/11/08

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God is love and always has been-IMHO.The bad things that happened to people in the old testament they bought upon themselves due to their rebellion.
---shirley on 3/10/08

Jesus rescued us while we were still sinners. His firm grip(by the way, not your grip) is still holding on to us as we stumble through life, today we are not without sin. But we are free from the penalty of sin. That freedom has a name and the name is FORGIVEN!!! We are forgiven. Glory hallelujah to the name of Jesus. Thank you Jesus thinking from what you have done!
---Mima on 3/10/08

Our God most certainly is a loving God and Father but also a Righteous Judge, yes, angry with the evildoers in this world but takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked. He wants all to come to repentance and eternal life.
---Christina on 3/10/08

You may be premature in asking this question. Why? Try reading Revelation and see what happens when God's cup of wrath is full! So, watch out all of you who preach/teach love and grace and think 'your god' wouldn't/couldn't do such a thing. You will have a chance to answer this question when judgment comes to those who refuse to listen to the truth and believe a lie. (Rev. 22:15 and John 12:46,47,48)
---Dr.Rich on 3/10/08

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There will be no Blood on my hands because of lost souls going to hell, because they were not told the truth. Love messages you can get from any false preacher.
---catherine on 3/10/08

Wow Catherine, so encouraging. Though it may be true that those who do not receive Christ will not have eternal life, it is not the gospel to run around telling people they are going to hell. The gospel is good news, even by actual definition. Good news is the opposite of bad news and news is the report of something that has already happened. God has already judged all sin in Christ. The condemnation of the unbeliever is that he/she hasn't believed on the name of the only begotten Son of God.
---Linda on 3/8/08

Jesus did not come to condemn the world but that the world through Him might be saved.

Jer 28:9 The prophet which prophesieth of peace, when the word of the prophet shall come to pass, then shall the prophet be known, that the LORD hath truly sent him.

Notice that it says "when" his word comes to pass, not if. When the word of the prophet who prophesies of peace comes to pass, then and only then is he known as a prophet that has been sent by God.
---Linda on 3/8/08

They are equal. Same God.>>>God's love for His very own people is demonstrated in the Old Testament as well as in the NEW. Unbelievers beware, on Judgment day, the same God is in the New and the Old. And He will past sentence on you to eternal hell. The fires of HELL.
---catherine on 3/6/08

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For Catherine: So, when you say God loves those who love Him, you appear to say he does not love his enemies. And yet he commands that WE love our enemies. Does this mean we have greater capacity to love, or that when you are totally holy like God you are free to hate. About the "Elect", to me that belief cancels Free Will.
---Geraldine on 3/1/08

Jesus came to Earth to tell us the Good News.
He came to Earth to tell all that God is a loving God. Why would you compare the OT to the NT? Almighty God sent His perfect Son to Earth, knowing He would suffer a terrible death. Really think about that. Think about how vast His love for us is. A being capable of anger would never made such a sacrifice for imperfect us.
---Deb on 3/1/08

I was saved at 6 years of age - drawn to that love that was so great that Jesus would die for my sins. I loved Jesus and I loved God, but I was afraid of God, seeing him as an angry father looking for me to make a mistake so he could swat me with a holy flyswatter. But that was not the God of the Bible. Now, over 50 years later, having studied the Old Testament (not just heard the stories of anger) I see over and over how loving and merciful He was and IS.
---Gena on 2/29/08

2) I had read and heard preached the Old Testament so I knew it quite well. But 20 years ago I fell in love with Isaiah and found so much comfort and hope in that wonderful book. Since then I have studied the OT specifically looking for the Love of Father God and I find it so evident and so wonderful. I want to share it with the world.
---Gena on 2/29/08

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God is a loving God to His people. I believe that if you receive revelation on the New Testament as I have, Jesus' messages would be for His very own people which He has chosen before the foundation of this world. For God so loved the world has been taken out of context. [the elect]. Understand? Think for a moment on loving thy neighbor. Noone can to do this unless it is from God. And to have this you need to be saved. Loving people when they love you, does not count.
---catherine on 2/29/08

God is love.John3:16andRomans5:8."For God so loved the world,that He gave His only begotten Son,that whoever believes in Him(Jesus Christ),will not perish but have everlasting life.""God demonstrated His love for us,in that while we were still sinners,Christ died for us." God's greatest desire that we join Him in His eternal home,heaven.He has made the way possible by paying the price for our sins.He loves us because He chose to as an act of His will.
---Court7646 on 2/28/08

God has many sides to him. [3/4 scriptures are negative]. I will not explain that scripture to you. Study it for yourself. I will give you a hint: God LOVES those whom LOVES HIM. God is angry at the wicked everyday. I will give you another one. Some of you are SNAKES.
---catherine on 1/25/08

God is the ultimate parent, just as any parent can be displeased at an action of a child or collectively children, and need to correct wrongful actions, but he still loves his children.
---notlaw99 on 1/24/08

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What do you mean "Which is bigger"?

Old or New Testament God is the same "Loving God"

Try not to get caught up in the passion of words before you and listen to & get caught up more in the Spirit which is revealing Gods Word to you.

In John 3:16 were it is stated "that whosoever believeth in him should not perish", this is all that Malachi 4 is looking to state?
---Shawn.M.T on 1/22/08

God in the old testament was angry but showed his love in mercy. In like manner Christ was compassionate and angered. Mainly at those who should have known better than to sin.
He loves his children but still gets angry and when he returns for his children in love will pour out that wrath on those who believe not. And some of them that believe not profess to be Christians.
---Frank on 1/22/08

It depends upon the choice you make. When the truth gets presented to the world (soon) if you accept it will you show your love by keeping all ten commandments and having the testimoney of Jesus? (not Paul) (Rev.12:17) If you don't, then watch out! People will say "My god wouldn't kill a third or fourth of the people, my god is a god of love. I am 'saved' and in need of nothing because I have love, faith and grace." (Rev.3:14-22) I find this very sad.
---Dr._Rich on 1/21/08

Thank you all for the helpful input. Now I wonder, does the fact that I seldom feel anger mean that my love is puny and weak?
---Geraldine on 1/21/08

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The Old and New Testiment God is the SAME. There is NO difference. The Bible says that He is the Lord your God, who NEVER changes. God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. God was, is and will always be a God of holyness, righteousness, and love.
---Leslie on 1/21/08

Good observation! In the OT the sin problem had not been dealt with. No one was keeping the law and there was a huge deficit. Jesus made the payment that satisfied the Father. I believe this to be the greatest reason.
---john on 1/21/08

Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:

Be ye angry, and sin not- Should circumstances arise to call for anger on your part, let it be as Christ's "anger" without sin.
---Mark on 1/21/08

Part 1. Heb.12:
5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons, for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

---Duane_M on 1/21/08

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8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
10 For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure, but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.
---Duane_M on 1/21/08

11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.
12 Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees,
13 And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way, but let it rather be healed.
14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

---Duane_M on 1/21/08

God can be both loving and angry. I love my children, but when they were younger, I had a lot of reasons to be angry with some of the choices some of them made. Neither negated the other.
---Trish9863 on 1/21/08

Well, in Malachi, He is angry, among other things, because guys have dealt treacherously with the wives of their youth > Malachi 14-16. So, He may be angry, but because He loves those women who have been dealt with treacherously, Geraldine (o: So, this sort of anger would be loving, with hope for what is good.

Also, God in His wrath can be like a mother bear in rage defending her cubs from hunting dogs > her rage is very loving for her cubs.
---Bill_bila5659 on 1/20/08

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pt2,I know this because of john 3-16 for god so LOVED THE WORLD that he GAVE his only son,that whosoever should believe shall not perish ,but have everlasting life.God nature is love,but he must judge and deal with sinners.
---tom2 on 1/20/08

angry? no not angry, just.God in ALL CASES in the old testament judged rightly against the sin of the world,and his people.but actually from the garden and the fall of adam and eve,God had a plan of salvation through his son actually God loved from the begining,god is love,but he is righteous and must judge rightly against sin.god hates sin not the sinner
---tom2 on 1/20/08

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