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What Is Catholic Absolution

What is absolution when it's ministered to a terminal patient by a priest? Also, I am not Catholic, I am Pentecostal, but my father is Catholic. How can I compromise my beliefs and have a mass for him when I don't practice Catholicism?

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well donna actually its what your father would want that matters.
---tom2 on 3/17/08


Alan of Uk :: :-) :-) :-)
---Emcee on 2/6/08


Emcee ... Yes there s a difference between renounce (which meaans give up you have supported) denounce (which means an attack on something which you may or may not have previously supported)
No I am not supporting Frances in her denunciation of the RCC, my agreement was with Pharisee that it is not for us to do so.. but God is the judge.
---alan_of_UK on 2/6/08


Alan of UK::DENOUNCE=Condemn publicly: Inform against ACCUSE.RENOUNCE:declare that one gives up,give up entirely,Give up.2Makes formal surrender 3.Castoff,Refuse to recognise as ones own.Thanks Friend noted- I did use the less volatile word.Frances used the word Denounce, accused Pharasee of perverting the Gospel. I guess you are expressing an opinion.The post was on "abolution" which I responded to in a previous Para.Guess you are defending Frances, not the Absolution of a dying Man.
---Emcee on 2/5/08


Emcee ... You seem to misread what Frances said.
Renounce is not the same as Denounce.
Be that as it may, I think most here take too hard, and indeed an unChristian line against the Catholic Faith.
Pharisee has it right.
---alan_of_UK on 2/5/08




Frances::When you RENOUNCE you reject & give up entirely.You say,renounce the POPE but also RENOUNCE the word of God contained in Matt16:17-19you are therefore renouncing also God.This shows you do not know what you are saying Do you love God ?it's a bad Habit to talk without thinking.
---Emcee on 2/4/08


Dear Bros & sisters in Christ. Jesus left us a parting Message in Matt28:18-20"In the name of the Father,and of the Son & of the Holy Spirit" Dont just read it try to understand it It was a farewell message delivered with the utmost love & His authority,for our spiritual well being.What more can I say except, it is the TRUTH.
---Emcee on 2/4/08


I am not perverting the gospel as you suppose.

Allowing anyone else their own belief is exactly what the Father does. (mark 9:36-40)I don't agree with everything the Catholics believe, but I know this: Christ is Lord, and ALL judgment has been given to him. I leave it to him to accept or decline Catholic worship, the main thing they do have right- Jesus is Lord.

More than I can say for other groups: half brother of Satan, an angel, all blasphemies that alienate these groups from Jesus.
---Pharisee on 2/4/08


I think you need to make your own decision about this, but you need to do it with god direction. Read your bible and pray from your heart and god will show you what you should do. My personal opinion. Jesus said let the dead bury the dead.
---Michael on 2/3/08


As a former Catholic, Donna, I understand that Catholic absolution is the act of a priest reciting a declaration that a person's sins are forgiven. A person can be absolved of one's sins after confessing them during confession.

Also, on a death bed, a person can be given "last rites" which includes the priest declaring the person forgiven of all sins, which I guess would mean absolution is included in the last rites.
---Bill_bila5659 on 2/2/08




I would say you have had time to talk with your father about this, so that by now he could full well know where you stand. And so, if he wants a Mass after he dies, or whatever Catholic, I'd say he could have made connections with ones who believe what he believes. A tactic Catholic can be to ask a non-Catholic to do a Catholic thing, in order to sway them to the Catholic faith. If you and he have already communicated, and if his mind is at all functional, I'd say he knows he's using a tactic on you.
---Bill_bila5659 on 2/2/08


Pharisee, you are perverting the gospel. The honoring of your father and mother means love them, and if we loved them we would sometimes have to oppose them if they have been doing something disobedient to God, like getting into New Age Religion. The two laws are Love God (first) and (second) Love your Neighbour as yourself. (Parents are included with neighbour). Jesus was refected by his family and said some strong words to them, even rejected them.
---frances on 2/2/08


Lisa, you are not speaking the truth. It is because we LOVE Catholics, especially our own family members, that we DENOUNCE the Pope and the Legions of others working for the devil to get their souls.
---frances on 2/2/08


I think this problem shows us why honesty is important in dealing with all those we love. By our honesty our parents may get to see the light. If they do not, on their death bed it is too late, we should just respect their wishes.
---frances on 2/2/08


Jack hit the nail on the head Donna, there are two things we are commanded by scripture, honor your parents and in all things do unto others.

Nobody said that you can't tell him the truth about what he believes, and it certainly couldn't hurt to try- the law after all is love.

You could talk about either Heaven or Hell to get things rolling, many Christians don't even know why scripturally they believe what they believe.
Catholics do hold Christ up as Lord.
---Pharisee on 2/2/08


If you ask a Catholic question and you want to get the truth? You should go to a Catholic website..cause most people here who are not Catholic want you not to be Catholic..therefore don't like Catholics.
---lisa on 2/2/08


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1. This is another really difficult question i.m.o. The wishes of the dying person are important. We would all want our own wishes to be carried out. However for those of us who are Christians it would not make any difference at all if someone from a religion different from our own came to us just before death - because we are already saved. If someone isn't saved we would feel desperate to try to change that before the loved one dies
---RitaH on 2/2/08


2. Bringing in his own priest might give him comfort but that's all. I believe that, if the person is conscious and capable of understand what was being said, this would be the time to witness and pray with the person. This could be done whilst waiting for his own priest or once he has arrived. There can be no harm done in witnessing to a dying man and his priest at the same time.
---RitaH on 2/2/08


You ought to respect his wishes, as you would want your wishes respected. You do not have to attend the mass.
---frances on 2/2/08


Donna,I'm Pentecostal too but, my daughters dearest friend's father died,they were also neighbors of ours when the girls were in Middle School,and I went to his funeral. I followed everything that was done in the service. The service wasn't about me,but honoring someone that was loved by the young woman, who we had loved since her childhood. It isn't your mass its his and we can be respectful of our parents wishes without any guilt. It's their decisions not ours. God knows your heart and sees your love.
---Darlene_1 on 2/1/08


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I know the story to be true.
My mother was called to visit a man on his death bed. This man was married to a Catholic, but he himself was unaffiliated with any church. During the visit he asked my mother to send him a Baptist preacher. But as my mother was leaving the residence his daughter whispered to my mother. Please do not come back, and certainly do not send any preacher as we can take care of this ourselves.
---Mima on 2/1/08


You are not compromising your beliefs. Rather you are following his wishes. Ask him to follow you in a prayer. And in that prayer have him to ask Jesus Christ to save his soul. John 6:37 says,"All that the Father giveth me shall come to me, and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out." You can stand on this Scripture. One can believe many heresies and still see the kingdom of God if that person ask the Lord Jesus Christ to save their soul.
---MimA on 2/1/08


If your father is a Catholic, it's your father's wishes and instructions that should be followed, not your own.
God gave us a free will for this purpose.
It is your father's free will that chooses Catholicism and you should honor your father and his instructions and religious practices for what he wants.
---Michelle on 2/1/08


Donna, consider if the situation were reversed.

Would you want your father to call a priest in your sick and weak hours?
---Jack on 2/1/08


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