Is Fornication Like Adultery
Matthew 19:9 Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery. Is putting your spouse away for adultery acceptable by God or is it only fornication that God accepts as means to put away your spouse?
Moderator - Fornication includes adultery.
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Emcee
Read my first rely to this Blog. It will explain chapter & verse for you. |
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---Shawn.M.T on 2/13/08 |
ShawnMT:: Am I to understand by your statement that Fornication is a sin against the H/S & unforgiveable?Can you explain? It is a sin against Gods commandment & a sin against Your Neighbour .Therefor it is forgiveable if confessed.This comes under the heading of Human frailty.If so by your standard No one will go to heaven. |
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---Emcee on 2/12/08 |
Gordon
1) In 1 Cor.7:12 Paul points out that the words between 1 Cor.7:12-13 are his own words not the Lords, and the Lords Word start again at 1 Cor.7:14. |
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---Shawn.M.T on 2/12/08 |
2) A Godless society will divorce for any LAME REASONS? Christ stated that in the beginning it was not so because from the beginning of creation God made us of one spirit (male & female) {Matt. 19:8 & Mark 10:6}.
We are call to peace (1 Cor.7:15), the peace that Christ brought to the world. We are not called to join our bodies to the fornicating harlot of a Godless society, because we are to be and are now one spirit with the Lord again, as it was in the beginning (1 Cor.6:15-17). |
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---Shawn.M.T on 2/12/08 |
3) We as the body of Christ are to walk-in forgiveness with a loving heart and are to never ever to think about divorce, except it be for fornication (Matt. 19:9). Fornication means turning away from the Spirit of God, blasphemies against the Holy Spirit. This is the one sin that will not be forgiven (Matthews 12:31-32) and this makes it clear why it is the only sin that is acceptable by God as means to put away your spouse, the sin of turn away from all that we are in the Lord. |
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---Shawn.M.T on 2/12/08 |
Emcee
Fornication (a sin that will not be forgiven) lays the ground work for every other sin to take root? Any more questions :-)!!!!! |
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---Shawn.M.T on 2/12/08 |
The Truth is is that GOD hates divorce. He would rather that ALL couples remain true to their vows that they made before GOD and man of "loving each other through the good and the bad, until Death should part them." Because of the hardness of men's hearts, divorce was permitted in cases of sexual infidelity. I Cor. 7:12-15 says that if an UNBELIEVING spouse no longer wants to remain with their Christian mate, they are free to leave. But, our Godless society divorces for the LAMEST REASONS. |
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---Gordon on 2/10/08 |
Actually the Greek word "pornia" was grounds for divorce which was worse than adultery and should be compared with incest or some other unnatural act. Jesus stated that he hated divorce when the pharisees asked if they were permitted to put away their wifes. |
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---janet on 2/7/08 |
Is not Fornication the root cause of Adultery? Next question!!!!! |
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---Emcee on 2/7/08 |
God does not approve of either. |
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---catherine on 2/6/08 |
Moderator
1) I believe adultery to be a sin!! That can be forgiven.
But the only way fornication can include adultery is if adultery is not a sin? 1Corinthians 6:18-20 state that Every Sin (which include adultery) a man doeth is without the body, pointing to the flesh? But he that committed Fornication sins against his own body, pointing to the soul. |
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---Shawn.M.T on 2/6/08 |
2) It goes on to state that the body that is being referred to is not the fleshy body but the one that was bought for a price and is the temple of the Holy Spirit, which confirms it as being soul. |
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---Shawn.M.T on 2/6/08 |
3) The sin of fornication, which is against the soul where the Holy Spirit dwells, sound like blasphemies against the Holy Spirit, which means to speak against & turn away from the Holy Spirit. This is the one sin that will not be forgiven (Matthews 12:31-32), and this makes it clear why it is the only sin that is acceptable by God as means to put away your spouse. |
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---Shawn.M.T on 2/6/08 |
I must say the levels of fornication in the church are alarming!!especially amongst the unmarried youth. |
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---pach on 2/6/08 |
Shawn, if it was for fornication which is not adultery that a wife is put away...she can't commit nonadulterous fornication once she's married. So, being put away for such fornication would have to be for what she did before being married. If she's forgiven for that past, I don't think Jesus would consider that grounds. But if she lied about being virgin, in order to fool a guy into marrying her...look at how the law of Moses says to handle such a thing > Deuteronomy 22:13-21. |
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---Bill_bila5659 on 2/5/08 |
Like today, mnay people at that time were divorcing for every little excuse that they could find because they wanted, either 1) to be single again, or wanted 2) to be joined to another person instead of their spouse. Jesus was reiterating the vows, "til death do you part." The moderator is right: fornication is whoredom, and adultery (ie: ad, to + ulter, other) is intimately joining to someone other than your married spouse. |
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---Eloy on 2/5/08 |
Jesus wasn't speaking figuratively. (G4202-porneia)
This is one of those yes and no situations.
Is it God's desire to see what he's joined be separated? Jesus answers in 19:6 but never is it clearer than in Malachi 2:16
There is a HUGE difference between really trying to honor the wishes of God and turning away as soon as you are given a loophole.
The justification for divorce lay in the balance. God knows the outcome stay or leave and he is willing to reveal it. John 16:13 |
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---Pharisee on 2/5/08 |
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