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Mormons Secret Underwear

Is it true that Mormons wear secret underwear? What do you know about this? And if so is the secret underwear for the purpose of warning off evil and giving protection to the wearer?

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samuel,
As someone who was raised as a mormon and no longer believes, I will try to set things straight. First the Bible says that the serpent told Eve she would become "like" god knowing good and evil. Thats different than becoming a god or goddess. For example, I could say that if you use a razor on your head, you will become like me (bald), but that doesn't mean you will become me. So on that point, you made a mistake. Secondly, Mormon men are not promised many wives or even multiple wives though they do have some belief that polygamy may be acceptable at times, like in old testament times, when directed by God. So on this point, you have also made a mistake.
---doug on 10/6/08


You hit the nail on the head Asley. Many have a form of Godliness but do not live in the power and way of JESUS.

Many today appeal for Christian votes not because they are Christians but because they want power. More then half the people who claim to be Christian have never even read the bible.

The only group JESUS spoke harsly too was hypcrites. Fo by their actions they maligned GOD.
---Samuel on 5/9/08


I always enjoy reading the views expressed by others here. Many just repeat opinions expressed by others and say it is truth. What hypocrisy. Jesus said love one another and serve your fellow man. If ye love me, KEEP my commandments. Where does that say condemn others for living a righteous life, remaining true to their beliefs and actually living as an example to others so they stand out from the crowd. So many nowadays talk the talk, but when it comes to walking the walk, they love darkness over light.
---Ashley on 5/8/08


Millions of christians say they love Jesus and yell Praise God on Sunday, but they lie, steal, cheat, have affairs, scam others, beat their wives and children, use profanity, get drunk every week, take drugs, etc the other six days. Where in the bible does it state you can profess one thing and do another in hypocrisy. That is the problem. Many are too self righteous to actually follow the bible and be true to themselves. Jesus said you are either for me or against me, There is NO inbetween.
---Ashley on 5/8/08


The LDS church is an illusion of a Christian group. They do not teach according to the Bible or even recent history.

Satan told Eve that by eating she would become a goddess.

Smith and other LDS prophets have said because we sinned we can become gods. This agrees with what Satan taught. The LDS church teaches that it was necessary for us to sin to move up in progression to their new god hood. Where the men will get millions of wives and the women will be pregnant for all eternity.
---Samuel on 5/7/08




Emcee is right Pyrite is an illusion of gold and many people have been taken it by it,thinking they had struck it rich,thats why it is also named "Fool's Gold". So you see things may appear to be something of value but are really fake,not what they seem to be at all. In that case a person is left with nothing but wasted effort on something which had appearence of riches, but no substance. All that glitters isn't gold.
---Darlene_1 on 5/6/08


Hello in response to the "secret underwear" I don't think that it is used to ward off evil i just think they use it as a symbol to themselves reminding them of the purity covenant that they believe in. somewhat like how people use a cross as a symbol.
---kuulei on 5/6/08


Being an observer you should know.Are Pyrites an illusion of Gold???Follow the thread.
---Emcee on 5/2/08


Emcee, what does illusion have to do with the LDS church. I think you're on the wrong blog.
---Observer on 5/2/08


Tammy::When you see an illusion enacted on the stage .Do you not wonder "How did he Do That"But having seen you believe it Happened.But still do not know how.Yet you cannot believe 3 distinct persons in one God as you see 3 persons.We call this the Holy Trinity Gods Mystery which He will reveal in Due time at his discreation.Should we then NOT believe Him knowing HE IS GOD.You never answered my previous question.I really mean you no disrespect.Probably old enough to be your Grand father.
---Emcee on 5/1/08




Gail - all anyone has to know is Jos Smith founder of the lDS was far worse then Warren Jeffs - WJ is more faithful to LDS doctrine then the modern LDS church.

Jos Smith had 33 wives - 11 of them were still married to other men
---Andrea on 5/1/08


Gail, I am a member of the LDS church. We believe in God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit as three separate personages. I believed that before becoming a member.
---Tammy on 5/1/08


I can tell by all of the answers that no one here has ever been a member of the LDS church. I don't know if you're doing your homework for your Divinity degree, but it's one thing to read about it on google and quite another to know what you are talking about.
---Gail on 5/1/08


mormons have many strange superstitions -

Tammy the LDS also believes that Jeuss is one of many gods on many planets - all who have their own gods and redeemers - it is a cult.
The cult in Texas (FLDS) is actually closer to Jos Smith then the LDS today

You really need to look into your own churches beliefs
---Andrea on 5/1/08


Mormons fully accept the atonement of Jesus Christ - we believe that all of us will be resurrected (saved) by grace. We also believe that we will be judged by our works. Works are biblically supported.
Tammy on 4/29/08

Yes Works are supported as done in love to GOD. Christians obey GOD because He saves us. Have you ever been taught about JESUS being the High Priest over all? Hebrews ch. 4,5 Have you been taught thay you must be born again? John 3
---Samuel on 5/1/08


I mean no disrespect. Tammy

None taken.

The scriptures show Jesus praying to the Father repeatedly, asking for His mercy, pleading with Him - I can not wrap my head around the belief that he is actually praying, pleading to Himself!?!

Tammy

He is not. The trinity doctrine is that GOD is three beings or persons who have always existed from all eternity no beginning no end. They are one in unity, purpose and thought. To meet one is to know all three.
---Samuel on 5/1/08


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We're are told that God sent His only begotten Son - if He came Himself why not just say so?
Tammy on 4/29/08

You are correct. It seems that the trinity has not been exlpained to you.
NASB - Num 23:19 - "God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent, Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?

Read John chapter one. It shows that JESUS is GOD and that he and the Father are one in unity.
---Samuel on 5/1/08


About the tree and its fruit.
1. This passage appears in the middle of Matthew 7, where there are three parts beginning with 'Judge not lest you be judged'. The point of the whole Chapter is about actually judging things correctly.
---frances008 on 4/30/08


2. You need spiritual sight if you are to be a judge and you cannot have that sight if you are full of sin yourself. So we have to first take the blinding beam out of our own eyes. Now we can see straight but there is still a problem or two.
---frances008 on 4/30/08


3. Looking at trees doesn't tell us what kind of fruit they'll produce (unless we are experts) especially if it is not harvest time yet. Even then, the fruit can look okay but taste awful. However, the point is that if a person is in Christ, they will produce good fruit automatically. If not in Christ, any fruit they produce is poisonous no matter how it looks or tastes.
---frances008 on 4/30/08


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4. Finally, to press the point home, Matthew says deceiving spirits will disguise themselves in sheep's clothes but in fact be ravenous wolves. Wolves come to steal the real sheep from the good shepherd and then will devour them.
---frances008 on 4/30/08


Thanks for elucidating, Tammy. I believe the three are inseparable. Jesus says he is in God, and God is in him. Nobody gets to the Father except through him. The Holy Spirit comes through Jesus, from the Father. There are no other entities involved.
---frances008 on 4/30/08


First to Kiki - I'm sorry if I offended you by stating that I have never been through the Temple and could not/would not comment on symbols, etc. because I have limited knowledge of these things. Other than that I am confident in what I know but perhaps have difficulty explaining in 85 words or less. Feel free to interject.
---Tammy on 4/30/08


Frances - the LDS do not question the divinity of God, Jesus Christ or the Holy Spirit in any way. We simply believe the three are separate.
---Tammy on 4/30/08


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Tammy ::Thanks again.Your verse 30 you quote causes me to wonder would God countermand His own Law Re divorce in Matt. 5:27-30. If he did how do we know it is Him as no one has seen God.So any man who has this belief is questionably in doubt as he may be using his choice to delude.
---Emcee on 4/30/08


this undergarment worn by members who have received the ordinance of the temple. All adults who enter the temple are required to wear it. The garment is worn at all times being covenants of righteousness, the members wear the garment under their regular clothing for the rest of their lives, day and night, partially to remind them of the sacred covenants they have made with God.
Oh and Tammy might want to think about what she says if she doesn't know much
---kiki on 4/30/08


I guess you've never had crabapple jelly, which is definitely not poisonous.
If they were poisonous, you wouldn't find them lying in everyone's yard. One man's truth is another man's theory of conspiracy to poison the neighborhoods.
---Ulrika on 4/30/08


Tammy, sometimes a tree produces crab apples. They look great from the outside but they are not good fruit, in fact they are poisonous.. Please be very careful. Those who are planting seeds that question the divinity of God, or the same of the Holy Spirit or Jesus, who speak of Jesus as a person sent by God, who is a little above the Pope or Mother Teresa, are on a very slippery slope. Jesus was God. The Holy Spirit is God. God is God and creator. Don't confuse others with new ideas.
---frances008 on 4/29/08


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Emcee - the Book of Mormon does not contradict the Bible. It tells about the teachings of Jesus Christ. In the Book of Jacob (in BOM), Chapter 2:24-29 Polygamy is condemned BUT verse 30 says (I'm paraphrasing) that if God should command such it shall be done - otherwise we are to hearken to the words (in 24-29). I hope that answers your question.
---Tammy on 4/29/08


Lastly, to question the "Christianity" of those of us who believe that God the Father, Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit are three separate entities (one in purpose) is really reaching. We believe and accept the Atonement of Jesus Christ - we are followers of Jesus Christ...we are Christians by definition.
---Tammy on 4/29/08


Samuel - I'm unfamiliar with the scripture states that God was never a man? However I am familiar with the scriptures that tell us that man was made in the image of God...the same scriptures that God uses terms such as "OUR image" and "has become like US", indicating to me that someone was with Him when He created the heaven and earth. I take that scripture literally - that we were made like God. It's pretty clear that someone else was there.
---Tammy on 4/29/08


Samuel - in regard to the trinity - I just don't buy it. I mean no disrespect. The scriptures show Jesus praying to the Father repeatedly, asking for His mercy, pleading with Him - I can not wrap my head around the belief that he is actually praying, pleading to Himself!?! We're are told that God sent His only begotten Son - if He came Himself why not just say so?
---Tammy on 4/29/08


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Tammy:: Thank you for your response.Those who practice Polygamy are in direct violation of Gods law.It served its purpose in the beginning of Creation,Not any more.The question remains if the bible was God's law which you say you follow why was the BOM introduced ??It is almost like saying to God "We believe you But! we do not agree with some issues"would it be unfair to draw that conclusion?
---Emcee on 4/29/08


Jody, I appreciate the sincerity in which you offer your comments. I agree that not all truth has been revealed but I believe much has been revealed and has been rejected by many as "false teachings." I agree that the LDS have different teachings for the above stated reason. I also know that the Bible warns against false prophets but it also tells us that we will know them by their fruits. Should my church bear bad fruit I'll leave (unlike cults-we are free to leave). I appreciate your concern.
---Tammy on 4/29/08


That is a funny one that I have never heard of:) I wonder what they look like? Stars and stripes? Or maybe skulls? THat's funny! :)
---jody on 4/29/08


No, Mima - I do not practice polygamy...nor do I know anyone that does.
---Tammy on 4/29/08


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Samuel - I'm glad we agree that there should be one true church that contains the Gospel of Jesus Christ (as it has so far been revealed). I said long ago that I wouldn't belong to a church that didn't claim to be true. I disagree that the Bible teaches there is only one God - there are many scripture that talk about other gods. There is only one God that we are to worship, God the Father.
---Tammy on 4/29/08


Mormons fully accept the atonement of Jesus Christ - we believe that all of us will be resurrected (saved) by grace. We also believe that we will be judged by our works. Works are biblically supported. Again, in regard to polygamy - God allowed the practice and then terminated it...in both biblical and modern times. The only one who truly understands why is God the Father.
---Tammy on 4/29/08


So many statements to answer! Mormons who practice polygamy are either excommunicated or the "fundamentalists" who are not part of the Mormon church to begin with. As for the existence of other Gods - the Bible acknowledges other gods, we worship only one - the Father. I find it interesting that you say the only "true" Christians are those who believe in the trinity when there are more scriptures that support that the two were separate personages.
---Tammy on 4/29/08


1)Hi Tammy. Yes,to admire is that LDS' do have a strong faith and that is for sure. They believe themselves to be right and everyone else wrong and it is plain and simple. I encourage you to look at ALL of the little beliefs that do not appear in any other cult or religious denomination of Christianity. There are just a myriad of things to look up and see if they are in the BIG BOOK which is the BIBLE and no other writing. Prophets/false prophets have a high price to pay. Love to you through Christ:)
---jody on 4/29/08


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2) Tammy: I have no vested interest (other than caring about YOU) to prove you or anyone else to be wrong re beliefs. But we must remember that the Bible says that we "see dimnly now" and that we prophecy in Part just as we know the truth IN PART. All else, we are told to cast down vain imaginations of men. We will all know the complete truth at the same time and it is when JESUS RETRUNS.
---jody on 4/29/08


Tammy::Polygamy was practiced in the OT.yes at the start of creation.Gen1,28But the Law of adultery,given by GOD, abolished that observance. Marriage is an institution by Christ, honoured by Him at the wedding feast of Canna.and St paul speaks of it in 1Cor 7:2.Matt19:4-6 clearly outlines the sanctity of Marriage.This is why I have difficulty understanding your creed of LDS.I do know, that there are many LDS who conform to this Decree but not all as it is lax.Can we still claim ignorance of the TRUE Law.
---Emcee on 4/29/08


There are many true christians in many different churches throughout the world. All true Christians hold some doctrines in common. One being the trinity. Others being that GOD alone is GOD and that we are saved by Grace alone through faith alone.

One of the latter Mormon prophets wrote that when we make ourself good enough then GOD will take us. We cannot make ourself good enough. We are all sinners.
---Samuel on 4/29/08


Interestingly that one church that has the "entire" or complete truth is not revealed until the very end. When the cry is given to come out of her my people. Then persons of all denominations understand and accept the complete truth. That is the remnant church. It may or may not exsist today.
---dan on 4/29/08


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I know that the LDS doctrine has biblical support - that God and Jesus Christ are two separate personages (biblically supported)
Tammy on 4/28/08

The LDS teaches JESUS and the Father are different gods and there millions of gods and that the Father was once a man. This is very opposed to the Bible. Which teaches there is only one GOD. That GOD has always existed and was never a man. Go through your Bible.
---Samuel on 4/29/08


I believe that God reveals what we need to know through prophets (biblically supported).
Tammy


Yes GOD instructs through prophets I accept a Prophet also. But all prophets cannot contradict scripture or the Law of GOD. Since Smith places himself above scripture and against the law of GOD he cannot be a prophet. The Bible Matthew 24 warns against false prophets. Smith does not teach the way of salvation found in the Bible. Have you been Born again John 3
---Samuel on 4/29/08


I know without a doubt that there can be only one church that has the ENTIRE Gospel of Jesus Christ (supported by simple logic) and I believe I belong to that church. It's that plain and that simple.
Tammy

I too believe there can only be one true church. To me that is the Seventh day Adventist church.
---Samuel on 4/29/08


I agree that Satan will offer truth with just enough lies to throw us off track ... While you are convinced that the LDS blindly follow the leader, you are wrong. We are encouraged to study and ask questions - we are encourage to pray for the answers ourselves. I've done that.
Tammy on 4/28/08

Tammy I want to encourage you to continue to think and ask question. For instance in the Book of Abraham are many falsehoods go to Wikepedia to see. Try to look up the names of gods that Smith give.
---Samuel on 4/29/08


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Emcee said, "God said the institution of marriage is 2 in one flesh.Could you explain this please"

Gen 2:23-24: "And the man said, "This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh. This one is called 'woman', because she was taken out of man". For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife, and they shall become one flesh."

Does this statement mean that a man can be "one flesh" with only one woman?
---righteouswarriors on 4/29/08


As for your question regarding polygamy, it was practiced in the Bible."
---Tammy on 4/28/08
Tammy this statement is true. In the question were probably put should be. Are you practicing polygamy at this time.
---Mima on 4/29/08


1. First, I'm not angry. I am tired of unwarranted and unjustified attacks on mine (and others) religion. I am surprised by those who proclaim most Protestant faiths as "True Christians" yet each of those denominations teach a different doctrine. The religions who do not fall in line with the Protestants are told they teach false doctrine - it makes absolutely no sense. As for your question regarding polygamy, it was practiced in the Bible.
---Tammy on 4/28/08


I know that the LDS doctrine has biblical support - that God and Jesus Christ are two separate personages (biblically supported),I believe that God reveals what we need to know through prophets (biblically supported). I know without a doubt that there can be only one church that has the ENTIRE Gospel of Jesus Christ (supported by simple logic) and I believe I belong to that church. It's that plain and that simple.
---Tammy on 4/28/08


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I agree that Satan will offer truth with just enough lies to throw us off track - I know the truth and have received it through study and prayer. While you are convinced that the LDS blindly follow the leader, you are very wrong. We are encouraged to study and ask questions - we are encourage to pray for the answers ourselves. I've done that.
---Tammy on 4/28/08


JohnT - there are people who witnessed the plates. No doubt you'll call them liars - still they bore written testimony of the plates. At least three left the church at one time or another BUT NOT ONE recanted his story about the plates. I believe they will be found when God wants them found. There are many that say there is no proof that God exists, that He never existed...does that make Him any less real? It's all about faith.
---Tammy on 4/28/08


Tammy ::Your reply shows Anger.I also do not believe in the mormon Faith as it is made by man,I do not condemn you but it is your choice.You did not answer my question which was Why was it necessary to change the word of God which you believe is the BIBLE and call it the BOM.which permits polygamy?God said the institution of marriage is 2 in one flesh.Could you explain this please.I hope its not too personal.
---Emcee on 4/28/08


To tell lies is a tactic of Satan not GOD. GOD works with truth only. There is no need to tell lies to show that the LDS church is incorrect.

We are to point people to follow JESUS to listen to His Word the bible. We are as Christians to uplift JESUS and truth.
---Samuel on 4/28/08


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the need to tear down other religions - JW, LDS, Catholics pretty pathetic. It's true of those who deliberately lie...ever heard of "bearing false witness"? ---Tammy on 4/27/08


Tammy, hell is not pathetic.

Biblical Christianity is real, and free from errors.

The LDS church is founded on a lie: THE PLATES DO NOT, NOR EVER EXIST


Is it pathetic to try to tell people the truth, and their religion is a flat-out lie?
---john_T on 4/28/08


So, according to you anyone who speaks out about inconsistencies in the mormon church is anti-mormon? momof2

No, I have no problem with anyone who disagrees with my beliefs. My problem is with those who deliberately lie, distort and use out of context quotes to deceive others. When someone writes a book entitled "The Shadow of Mormonism" and uses distortions and lies to bring readers to a certain conclusion - I call it anti-Mormon.
---Tammy on 4/27/08


As for the comments made in regard to the BOM, it's critics pick it apart but ignore the message of the book! The BOM is a compilation of stories which testify of the divinity and teaching of Jesus Christ and the blessings which come by living the commandments of God. I have read it, the contradictions are no more disturbing than those found in the Bible. There haven't been text changes to suit our doctrine - that accusation is false.
---Tammy on 4/27/08


In regard to the blog question - the Temple Garments are no secret. The LDS do believe they offer protection. I wish I could understand why so people amuse themselves by making fun of something of which they have no understanding! Personally, I find the need to tear down other religions - JW, LDS, Catholics pretty pathetic. It's especially true of those who deliberately lie...ever heard of "bearing false witness"?
---Tammy on 4/27/08


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As for the original question it is a shame to even speak about underwear. If it's true let it stay a secret.
Frank
---Frank on 4/17/08


Correct they are temple garments which they are taught will help protect them.

As a Christian I am filled with the HOLY SPIRIT and under the Blood of JESUS. I need no garments to protect me.
---Samuel on 4/17/08


You see Tammy ::Samuel is also a good man at heart and had no intent to inflict punishment or retribution.I guess it is a choice of words which causes a reaction and I do believe God's answer to inspire goodness is His Saying "Love one another as I have loved you.":-)
---Emcee on 4/17/08


Well,I don't know about it but I try to keep my underwear secret.Like please tell me if my slip is showing.
---shirley on 4/17/08


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amicusdei:-)May the peace of Christ reign in your Heart and home.
---Emcee on 4/17/08


Those "secret" underware are actually called temple garments. They are not secret at all, they signify thatthey are pure to go into the temple. I have family that are members so i know quite a bit about the strange things that they do.
---lisa on 4/17/08


Good point emcee we must depend on prayer and the Power of the HOLY SPRIT to convict anyone. I just wanted to appeal to her common sense that a book which is full of falsehood should not be trusted.
---Samuel on 4/17/08


Emcee, I apologize. I shouldn't have done that.
---amicusdei on 4/17/08


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Amicusdei::Sorry must have had on my stern thinking cap and the humourous one on the table.:-)
---Emcee on 4/15/08


Emcee, I was being facetious. I am RC myself.
---amicusdei on 4/15/08


amicusdei:: Had you been alive in those days your opinion would have been different because of the facts.However I would suggest you determine Facts when talking about The Church established by God Himself and dont follow the HERD, He is the shepherd of the sheep who know Him.Thieves and Bandits cannot enter this fold Jn.10:1-10
---Emcee on 4/15/08


I wish the subject of Mormons secret underwear hadn't been raised as I now I cannot even think of the critters without imagining them dancing around in bizarre striped knickers. Not a pretty sight!
---Warwick on 4/15/08


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It is true that since the Catholic church was the Ho of Babylon and was also practically the only church in Western Europe, hardly anyone there got saved until the Reformation came along and got Christianity right for the first time.
---amicusdei on 4/14/08


Samuel ::It is not really Tammys fault.2000years has caused many generations to pass.what she was taught she holds fast to Her belief.I agree the BOM is not the best resort but do not fault her for what she has been taught by tradition.I'm sure God in His mercy will steer her ship back to His moorings.Prayer is the weapon of Choice for our disallusioned and misguided Members of Humanity.Not Recrimination, and washing of underlinnen.
---Emcee on 4/14/08


Howdy Tammy

I know many have read the BOM and find it inspired. But I am a historian and I dislike when a document lies. The native american people are of oriental ancestory not jewish this is proved by Dna.

The BOM says they built huge walled cites and hand weapons of iron. But only in south america were any large cities built and they were people who still worked in stone. So while people may believe the book it lies.
---Samuel on 4/14/08


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