Slain In The Spirit
Having heard, and perhaps seen on TV, the phenomena of being "slain in the spirit" what do you make of this? Demonic? Or a move of God? Or neither, maybe just a self-induced trance?
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---Mima on 2/13/08
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This manifestation is called the shekinah glory, the divine presence of God. And yes it is very common during praise, worship, and prayer. It's when God's Holiness overwhelms you. Please read II Chronicles 5:13,14, Daniel 10:8,9. Recall how God's shekinah glory came upon Paul on the road to Damascus. Those with him heard the voice, but they did not hear the Hebrew speech. Please read Acts 9:3-9, 22:6-11, 26:12-18. |
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---Eloy on 2/19/08 |
We are commanded to not quench the Spirit, and to do the works of God. Just because some counterfeit God's behavior, does not mean all are counterfeiting God's behavior. If anyone knowingly disses the works of God, they are blaspheming the Holy Spirit, and there is no forgiveness for this. Every work will be exposed whether it is of God or not, and we know that being "slain in the Spirit" is of God. Get in the Spirit, and do not be concerned about the imposters among the body. |
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---Eloy on 2/19/08 |
I still would like someone to show me where being slain in the Spirit is actually found in the Bible.
Could it be there are many people who are guilty of doing what is found in Romans 1:25, and Revelation 22:18-19? |
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---Rob on 2/18/08 |
MikeM...Your scientific explanations tell me that God knew what He was doing when He created us. Our body works the way it does because HE made it that way. |
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---Susie on 2/16/08 |
(Acts 19:1-20) Remember what Jesus said about discerning the type of tree: its by it's fruit! TRY THIS... Stop Judging so quickly and Watch their lives for a Godly change. I know, I've seen The Fakes, The well-meaning-Imitators, and ...I've seen legitimate movements of God. Check it against God's Word: It's in the book! (See 1st Cor, chapters 12,13,+14) I know that the Holy Spirit is active today, otherwise NO ONE would be getting saved, Healed, nor would any be called into ministry on the spot. |
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---timoth8496 on 2/16/08 |
In the 1980's some big time preachers were brought down with tape recorders, and other devices. One was being sent messeges by his wife to an electronic ear-phone. He went bankrupt in a big scandel. The irony is he is back in 'business' this time marketing 'prayer cloths' and 'Dead Sea healing water.' He again is making millions, Peter Popov. Even when confronted with objective reality people do not learn. |
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---MikeM on 2/15/08 |
Tongues,Glosserlia is the release of endorphines in the bloodstream and is completly bio-chemical. Scientist observe significant cerebral blood flow and endorphine increase among individuals during glossolalia, concluding that the observed changes were consistent whith what can be induced in lab experiments.New York Times wrote about the study, and it has been published in Psychiatry Research: Neuroimaging, Volume 148, Issue 1, 22 November 2006, Pages 67-71.
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---MikeM on 2/15/08 |
A few times I have posted scientific conclusions, studies about the source of glosserlia, no one rebuted or disagreed, so my point stands. I have nothing against most pentacostals, but it should be made clear what they experience is no more divine in origen than any other physiological function. It offends when its Televangelist using this phenonomen for profit as when the preacher, in front of a TV Camera claims "God s spirit told me to tell you all to send me your $$$"
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---MikeM on 2/15/08 |
Leon and Eloy, My experance was over 20 years ago, older then many of the bloggers. What I would do for a test is to call out in the name of Jesus for Satan and the demons to leave. I have done that before and was almost thrown out of the church because the "spirit" left and no one was falling over anymore. Go fish? What I find interesting is that Jesus was accused of doing 'work' in the name of Belzibub. |
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---Dr._Rich on 2/15/08 |
Falling out under the power is more accurate than slain in Spirit. It's simple,nothing mystical at all. When the power/Spirit of God falls so strong then the human body can't stand up under that power,the person goes down. It's the anointing of God touching a person to meet their needs. God never imposes his power on anyone who doesn't want Him to move that way. Remember Acts1:18 you will receive power after that the HG comes upon you,speaking of infilling of HG. Its given to us to minister to the Body. |
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---Darlene_1 on 2/15/08 |
Dr. Wretch: Your carnal experience wasn't from heaven, but was demon possession.
That's the bad news. The good news is, while there is yet breath in your body, you can be saved (delivered: demon free) if you'll trust (by faith) & believe Jesus Christ is the resurrected, living Son of God who died for your sins. He is the one of whom the "whole" & Holy Bible gives testamony. |
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---Leon on 2/15/08 |
This manifestation is called the shekinah glory, the divine presence of God. And yes it is very common during praise, worship, and prayer. It's when God's Holiness overwhelms you. Please read II Chronicles 5:13,14, Daniel 10:8,9. Recall how God's shekinah glory came upon Paul on the road to Damascus. Those with him heard the voice, but they did not hear the Hebrew speech. Please read Acts 9:3-9, 22:6-11, 26:12-18. |
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---Eloy on 2/15/08 |
We are commanded to not quench the Spirit, and to do the works of God. Just because some counterfeit God's behavior, does not mean all are counterfeiting God's behavior. If anyone knowingly disses the works of God, they are blaspheming the Holy Spirit, and there is no forgiveness for this. Every work will be exposed whether it is of God or not, and we know that being "slain in the Spirit" is of God. Get in the Spirit, and do not be concerned about the imposters among the body. |
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---Eloy on 2/15/08 |
Ignoring Dr Rich, I think the charismatic movement had some good fruits, otherwise it could not have survived so long. But I looked into the history of the Renewal in the 20th century. Some students were told on a retreat to go away and come back with the definition of 'signs of Christianity in a person.' They concluded 'Speaking in tongues'. That finished me. Nothing to do with Love, obedience, the Word. It was now 'Gabble away nonsense, and you prove to be a Christian.' |
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---frances on 2/14/08 |
Dr. Rich, that was neither rich or biblical.
It was demonic.
For this purpose was the Son of Man revealed that He might destroy the works of Satan. |
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---Cindy on 2/14/08 |
As one who had this happen, at the time I was convinced that it was the Holy Spirit because of the orgasmic feeling that came over me! Now I know it was from Satan and why Satan used the Pentacost to dupe the early church into beliving it was the Holy Spirit that came to them at that time. But John 20:21 shows Luke's story of the Pentacost was a lie. Satan had to tweak the truth for the new church and duped Paul. But God NEVER forces anyone by making them blind to be His servant! |
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---Dr._Rich on 2/14/08 |
What good is the show? If it does not bring unbelievers to God of what use is it? In times past barking like dogs was considered a sign of the Spirit. Laughter, shaking, speaking in tongues that no one understood, all considered signs. Proving just to be a fad, when the money dried up so did the Spirit. |
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---dan on 2/14/08 |
Susie. Not all churches use catchers. You are correct that catchers are not needed. There are times when we don't use them and have had no problem at all. People fall just the same. However,I have noticed that if there are no catchers people are slightly more prone to resist the awesomness of God's presence. There is no proof in the Bible whether or not there was or wasn't any catchers. |
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---john on 2/14/08 |
I think that if you have never experienced being slain in the spirit, it is easy to knock it. If being slain in the spirit, there is truly no need for cathers. The reason some churches have catchers, it could be simply so the women in skirts can remain covered up. |
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---Denise on 2/13/08 |
If being "slain in the spirit" were truly from the Holy Ghost, there would be no need for "catchers" that are always on hand to catch those who fall. By the way, I believe Acts also and am a pentecostal who has seen too much added to scripture in today's pentecostal churches. |
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---Susie on 2/13/08 |
It is a very real thing to happen, but, like everything else, can be abused. Yes, a man or woman, can push a person, trying to "help out the spirit", also, the spirit can touch the individual without any help from the minister, I have personally experienced this, and my husband, that thought he couldn't be slain in the spirit, went forward, and ended on the floor just like everyone else.The only scripture that I know of to back this up, would be when Saul fell under the power of God. |
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---Gayla on 2/13/08 |
If you don't know, I'd be careful what you say. I'd talk with an individual and see how the person speaks for oneself. One could be getting special rest of the Holy Spirit's Heavenly love (Matthew 11:29, Romans 5:5). Another could be shut down by a demon. And someone else could be "self-inducing", which I'd consider also to be demonic...since we are to depend on God (2 Corinthians 3:4-5) and always submit to Him (James 4:7), and not take anything on ourselves (Philippians 2:13). |
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---Bill_bila5659 on 2/13/08 |
You will not find a place in the Bible that mentions being slain in the spirit.
People need to remember there are many different spirits in this world and they are not all of or from God.
When I think about people talking about being slain in the spirit, and the way they act, they remind of what the Bible mentions about those people who were demon possesed. |
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---Rob on 2/13/08 |
If you fake it and go down you are also condemned, even though it is a good way to escape the singing in tongues being forced on you. I think all these things are an open door to deceiving spirits. |
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---frances on 2/13/08 |
There is much Scriptural evidence to show that when the presence of the Lord or angels came that most people did not remain standing. I never used to believe in it and like many, thought it to be fake, until it happened to me despite the fact I was resisting. Maybe some fake it but then there are those who fake prayer and singing and even Christianity too. |
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---john on 2/13/08 |
A 'famous' preacher comes and lays hands on everyone and they fall like dominoes. If you don't fall down you will be singled out as a resister. No, I think this is not of God. |
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---frances on 2/13/08 |
It is real and does happen on occasion.I did not believe in it either when I was a baby Christian.As a matter of fact I thought it might be painful when it happened so wouldn't go down to the altar where someone was praying when that took place.So when it happened to me it was totally unexpected and I was never the same but was a better person.A more triumphant Christian. |
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---shirley on 2/13/08 |
Might I also add I am an educated woman whose psychological profile is-I am a strutctered realist who is task oriented but because of personal experiences I believe every thing in the book of Acts is for Christians now.I could go on for hours. |
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---shirley on 2/13/08 |
I have experienced God's presence so great that I could barely stand, but I've also experienced a man's hand pushing against my forehead in an earnest attempt to slay me himself. I think the important thing is to be open to the Holy Spirit moving how he chooses in order to receive complete healing or blessing in your life. That said we should never try to conjure (sp?) up something in order to impress others or convince ourselves that God is at work. |
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---kady on 2/13/08 |
It is all fake, don't be suckered in by sham ministries. |
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---notlaw99 on 2/13/08 |
It's a fond thing, vainly invented, founded upon no warrant of Scripture, but rather repugnant to the Word of God. |
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---Jack on 2/13/08 |
I think it could be any of the 3 options you give and a fourth - fake. Perhaps not the kind of fake designed to deceive but faked because some people just do what they think others are expecting them to do - to please and to conform. |
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---RitaH on 2/13/08 |
This is something that is totally of the flesh. Many people think they should be "slain in the spirit" everytime they go to church. We have one friend who gets this way every time anyone prays for her. It is totally a drama queen thing for her. |
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---Susie on 2/13/08 |
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