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Slain In The Spirit

Having heard, and perhaps seen on TV, the phenomena of being "slain in the spirit" what do you make of this? Demonic? Or a move of God? Or neither, maybe just a self-induced trance?

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I see some here that have yet to encounter God's presence. Knock down your walls of Jericho: and be the soft and pliant clay in the Master's hand, and be not the stony lump which is good for not a thing, says the Lord. Open up your selves and let the King of glory come in, fall down upon your knees before the Lord of glory, bow down your whole self in front of the Majesty on High. For how will you receive anything at all of the Lord when you are hardened? says the Lord. Will the creature say to their Maker, You will be what I say you will be?
---Eloy on 9/7/11


mima, The dead do not know "Life", "Action", "Love", "Movement", "Yokes broken" "Rebirths", and are quick to misjudge the "Move" of God's Spirit as though the people are drunk. And they would rather sit lifeless and stay hardened against God's presence and receive nothing from him, and leave God's presence the same way they were when they arrived to his presence. But I guarantee that if you would lay aside your reservations and open up to God's Spirit of "bells and whistles", you will receive great blessings and regeneration in your personal life, but as long as you stay stodgy and opposed to any touch of God, then you will remain unchanged and receive nothing.
---Eloy on 9/7/11


Trav

So God does not value the praises of His people.

Funny scriptures declare He inhabits the praises of His people.


Paul
---paul on 9/7/11

Twice. Key word...his people.

The point is act like wheat, wave like wheat....but where is the bread??
Psalm 14:4
Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the LORD.

Isaiah 30:20
And though the Lord give you the bread of adversity, and the water of affliction, yet shall not thy teachers be removed into a corner any more, but thine eyes shall see thy teachers:
Luke 4:4
And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
---Trav on 9/7/11


I think he is saying it may look like wheat, wave in the wind wildly like wheat but, as it gets a "larger head", it's obvious it's not got any bread value to it.
---Trav on 9/7/11

Trav

So God does not value the praises of His people.

Funny scriptures declare He inhabits the praises of His people.

You can set on your seat of do nothing and stew all you would like, but I will praise God for His goodness and His grace all the days of my life.

Paul
---paul on 9/7/11


Once a the operator was saying "Shocka meshuggana, shocka meshuggana. Right now, Lord!" and people were dropping like flies.

Your Yiddish speaking friends will tell you that "meshuggana" means "crazy fool."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/7/11

Not surprized.

Perhaps the practicioners can back up where the O.T. Prophets say this will happen???
If not they are going against the Prophets or adding too.

Kinda a scary thing going against those Prophets who Christ fulfilled everything they said. But, some are brave it appears.
Acts 3:18
But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.
---Trav on 9/7/11




Cluny when someone asks a question, can you not answer? of course you might feel that the truth might compromise your ideas.
let me AGAIN post the scriptures concerning
falling in the spirit (Gen 17:13, numbers 22,1kings 18:39,1Chron 21:16, 2Chron 20:18 Ez1:28) laughing (Gen 17:17, psalm 126:2)
of course here you need to accept that God was yesterday and today and tomorrow the same.
i have fallen in the Spirit on occasions, i cannot recall to be passed out at any, it is a very serious consious experience. i've also met people who had visions and they cannot say wether in body or not just like paul mentioned (2Cor12:2)
PS i know that the bible doesnt use pentecostal terms, but it was written for all Christians.
---andy3996 on 9/7/11


\\Falling into a spiritual ecstasy is not that uncommon. Don't many saints describe similar experiences?\\

The practice of being "slain in the spirit" involves falling down, supposedly unconscious, and usually when the operator touches you on the head. This is NOWHERE in the Bible.

Once a the operator was saying "Shocka meshuggana, shocka meshuggana. Right now, Lord!" and people were dropping like flies.

Your Yiddish speaking friends will tell you that "meshuggana" means "crazy fool."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/7/11


MarkV experience has shown me that people reject prophets but want them to be fortunetellers instead christians do not accept a man who received the gift of healing, whilst they go and spend all their money on strokers acupuncturists
---andy3996 on 9/7/11


it does not take long for the evil one to plant tares.
---aka on 9/7/11

Are you saying that anyone who rejoices in the Lord is a tare?
---paul on 9/7/11

I think he is saying it may look like wheat, wave in the wind wildly like wheat but, as it gets a "larger head", it's obvious it's not got any bread value to it.

Matt 13:19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and "understandeth it not", then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.
---Trav on 9/7/11


it does not take long for the evil one to plant tares.
---aka on 9/7/11

Are you saying that anyone who rejoices in the Lord is a tare?

Paul
---paul on 9/7/11




//"However, I have YET to see "slain in the spirit" as Pentecostals practice it anywhere in the Bible but in this story." (Cluny)

Being "slain in the Spirit" (a phrase not found in Scriptures) is a Tradition of Men. //

On the day of Pentecost, men who were filled with the Spirit shared the gospel to foreigners in there own language.

Any ecstatic hooping and hollering was the joy of hearing Good News clearly (without a language barrier).

it does not take long for the evil one to plant tares.
---aka on 9/7/11


andy, your wrong when you said,
" its only sad that the children of God acknowledge the devils power but reject the power of God because they are too affraid to live in freedom (John 1: 9-13)"
Every child of God believes by faith in the power of God, if they didn't they would not be children of God. What they watch for is the manifestions of the enemy. The New Testament is full of warnings to the children of God to watch out for the enemy.
We know God does the healings, saves, and He rules. God is seating on the Throne Ruling over all His creation. "He doeth according to His will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay His hand" (Dan. 4:35).
---Mark_V. on 9/7/11


Ignatius as you know, (if you'll admit it, is another question), many things of your denomination are also named non-biblically. HOLY water,rosaries, callices, communion wafer, eucharism etc are terms and uses not found in the bible. so we should say (according your line of thought) they are antichrist because of that. on the other hand to fall flat on the floor when God appears is very biblical (as you could have discovered when you read the biblequotes i gave)
---andy3996 on 9/7/11


Cluny and Ignatius:

While this is not, strictly speaking, exactly the same thing, there is the story in 1 Samuel 10 where Saul encountered a group of prophets, and prophesied with them.

Falling into a spiritual ecstasy is not that uncommon. Don't many saints describe similar experiences?

Also, just because scriptures didn't record God ever having worked in some particular way, that doesn't necessarily mean he can't work that way.

If one were to have judged the miracles of Jesus by what was in the scriptures at that point, quite a few of them would have been suspect. And the same goes for many miracles attributed to saints after the New Testament canon was closed.
---Strongaxe on 9/7/11


"However, I have YET to see "slain in the spirit" as Pentecostals practice it anywhere in the Bible but in this story." (Cluny)

Being "slain in the Spirit" (a phrase not found in Scriptures) is a Tradition of Men. We have no record of such a phenomena in Scriptures nor in any the writings of the early Christians. One can not even found such phenomenon in any writings of the Protestant Reformers. Throughout Church history, the practice of being "slain in the spirit" was unheard of. It is a recent tradition of men.

I will warn all here about spiritual delusions, for by such many have been lead astray.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 9/6/11


IF the manifestations in our denomination is from the devil "where do the manifestations in yours come from??
---andy3996 on 9/6/11

Show us in the Bible where the phrase "slain in the spirit" is found and show us where in the Bible do we find the manifestation (of being "slain in the spirit"--->falling backward and entering into a unconsciousness state) among Christians during worship services (The Divine Liturgy).

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 9/6/11


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\\This should be a warning to those with discernment that all spirits that people get slain in are the Holy Spirit.\\

Make that:

This should be a warning to those with discernment that NOT all spirits that people get slain in are the Holy Spirit.

However, I have YET to see "slain in the spirit" as Pentecostals practice it anywhere in the Bible but in this story.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/6/11


MarkV of which prophet in the OLd Testament was it possible to authenthicate that he really spoke from GOD?
on the other hand this question came to Christ as well (Luke 20:2)
everything what happens is provable with Bible
let me give a personal example the fact i speak English is because God gave me the language when i was 8, next to this i speak in a tongue many consider wrong (Rom 8:26)yet the bible explicitely confirms it
laying of hands praying for the sick, delivering from demons, even the falling in the spirit (Gen 17:13, numbers 22,1kings 18:39,1Chron 21:16, 2Chron 20:18 Ez1:28) laughing (Gen 17:17, psalm 126:2,)
---andy3996 on 9/6/11


Paul, Cluny did make a point...
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
SO IF THERE IS FALSE MANIFESTATIONS, then the devil must know there is the REAL THING as well, how does he descredits the GIFTS of GOD? by putting counterfeit next to it.
did you ever see a false note of 21,75 dollars? no, because a true note 21,75 dollars doesn't exist. on the other hand one might find a false 20 dollar bill because the real thing is around.
again every SPIRITUAL manifestation "HAS POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE" its only sad that th children of God acknowledge the devils power but reject the power of God because they are too affraid to live in freedom (John 1: 9-13)
---andy3996 on 9/6/11


paul, the lunatic/epileptic boy of the Gospels was always getting slain in the spirit.

In Mark's account, the boy even gave a great shout and fell to the ground as dead (was there anyone to catch him?) the last time he got slain in the spirit, just like you see in Pentecostal churches.

This should be a warning to those with discernment that all spirits that people get slain in are the Holy Spirit.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/6/11


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This manifestation is called the shekinah glory, the divine presence of God. And yes it is very common during praise, worship, and prayer. ---Eloy on 9/4/11

The Shekinah Glory now is with the Glorified Jesus Christ who actually BLINDED Paul's eyes.

So tell me Eloy, how many are blinded with this Shekinah Glory today?

The LIGHT we walk in today is HIS LIGHT, and when we walk in the Light, the Blood of Christ cleanses us from all sin.

Jesus is that LIGHT that came into the World. The CHURCH now, those who have the Indwelling Christ are now the Light of the World of His Light through us.
---kathr4453 on 9/6/11


Ignatius "being slain in the Spirit is a demonic manifestation"

Luke 11:19 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your sons cast them out? therefore shall they be your judges.
Luke 11:20 But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.
Luke 13:32 And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected.
IF the manifestations in our denomination is from the devil "where do the manifestations in yours come from??
---andy3996 on 9/6/11


Jesus didn't define it at all, Paul. That's why there are divergent views about what constitutes blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
---James_L on 9/5/11


Mt 12:31 "Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.
32 "Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

It's when you give Gods credit to satan by denying Gods involvement.

They had just accused Him of casting out demons and not using the Spirit of God to do it thus taking the credit from God when Jesus warned of this.

Paul
---paul on 9/6/11


"Being Slain in the Spirit" is a demonic phenomena. This is one of the spiritual errors of Pentecostalism. Pentecostals have been deceived by believing this doctrine and phenomena (nowhere to be found in Scriptures) is from God.

Another demonic activity is called "The [un]Holy Laughter".

Little Children, do not be deceived!

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 9/6/11


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Paul/andy, I love both of you, and when I explain something, it is not to hurt anyone. I know how important this topic is to Pentecostals. I belonged to one for seven years and seen it all. One thing none could do with the gifts they presented was, to authenticate what they did came from God. If they spoke the Word of God, we could check, not an experience. We have to believe what they say is Truth. We know man always fails. Can one guy here proof his vision was Truth? No. Him pointing the finger at his wife at the Great White Throne of Judgment. He had already told us he failed once and says lost his salvation, how can we know what he is now saying is Truth? Can someone be healed? Yes by God.
---Mark_V. on 9/6/11


I try to make it a "habbit" not to physically touch people when i pray and "lay hands", i keep a few milimeters distance so that mostly they only feel the heat of my hand. many a time people are touched in a way they fall down flat in the Spirit, since the pressence of God is awesome at that moment (some refer to this as the Shechinah Glory). never i had any person getting injured in this kind of service, all testimonies i ever received are positive. I know that due to extreme behavior of some participants the entire manifestation has been disqualified. yet nobody would reject "traditional church practices" like monastries due to a few extremists as well.
---andy3996 on 9/5/11


You know how Jesus defined Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit don't you?

Paul
---paul on 9/5/11


Jesus didn't define it at all, Paul. That's why there are divergent views about what constitutes blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
---James_L on 9/5/11


Mark 5:15 And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.

Do they jump for joy: YES
Acts 3:8 And he leaping up stood, and walked, and entered with them into the temple, walking, and leaping, and praising God.
2 Samuel 6:14 And David danced before the LORD with all [his] might,

Different people react differently. It is imposible to to predict or control another persons emotion or reaction.

Luke 24:32 And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?

BUT SLAIN IN THE SPIRIT IS NOT TO BE FOUND IN SCRIPTURE
---Francis on 9/5/11


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\\You know how Jesus defined Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit don't you?\\

You don't actually think the Holy Spirit has anything to do with being slain in the spirit, do you?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/5/11


.i always wondered why the same God who provides the slaying does not also provide the catching.
---aka on 9/5/11

I have seen people, who were truly touched by God, fall backwards with no one there to catch them and they suffered no hurt at all.

And I'm not one taken off with all the fakeism and feelgoodism that is so prevalent in our Pentecostal and Charismatic churches these days.

Nor do I push for a "move of God" in our services, I preach the Word offer up the praises and get out of God's way and enjoy whatever He wants to do in our services.

I have witnessed alot of fake concerning the "falling out phenomenon" but I have also seen genuine acts as well

Paul
---paul on 9/5/11


The lunatic boy in the Gospels who would fall all the time, sometimes into the fire and sometimes into the water, was slain in the spirit too, but Jesus cast it out.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/5/11

You are treading into very dangerous ground here Cluny.

You know how Jesus defined Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit don't you?

Paul
---paul on 9/5/11


The lunatic boy in the Gospels who would fall all the time, sometimes into the fire and sometimes into the water, was slain in the spirit too, but Jesus cast it out.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/5/11


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//Recall how God's shekinah glory came upon Paul on the road to Damascus.// -Odd, there was no one to catch Saul. there really was no need. i believe he fell forward to the ground. as mentioned before, those who fall backwards...i always wondered why the same God who provides the slaying does not also provide the catching.

my dad shared his experience of being slain in the spirit. he was actually knocked out of the batter's box past the catcher and flew into the first row. i do not doubt his experience, but now he is starting to see the influence of the charismatics and how Scripture was used. he realizes who he is now compared to who he was 30 years ago gaining more distance from his charisma and getting to know the real Jesus.
---aka on 9/5/11


Kathr, I totally agree with your comments. I also believe as you do on this subject, no such thing as "slain in the spirit" Once it happened on tv, that was it, so many started the same thing.
I had also heard about the pressure points some know how to touch to get you to fall. But the worse one's were when Benny Hinn blew air at them and they fell down.
---Mark_V. on 9/5/11


This manifestation is called the shekinah glory, the divine presence of God. And yes it is very common during praise, worship, and prayer. It's when God's Holiness overwhelms you. Please read II Chronicles 5:13,14, Daniel 10:8,9. Recall how God's shekinah glory came upon Paul on the road to Damascus. Those with him heard the voice, but they did not hear the Hebrew speech. Please read Acts 9:3-9, 22:6-11, 26:12-18.
---Eloy on 9/4/11


There are no Gifts in scripture of one slaying another in teh spirit, nor any catchers of those being slain.

And remember, anyone who fell BACKWARDS was the enemy of God.

If anything mees to be slain it would be our flesh, not our spirit. Slain means death, not rejuvination.
---kathr4453 on 9/3/11


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The scriptures used to justify being "slain in the spirit" are a quite different experience. They fell in fear, not in a rest or trance, because of Gods glory. This "phenomenon only happens during worship or if some "anointed" minister lays hands on someone. Scripture doesn't mention it. It is an emotional and deceived expectation of something seemingly experienced by others. There is no order when this happens and only those "slain" are edified, not all, which the spirit was given for. Heed what Paul said about tongues being misused, if they can't be interpreted, keep it to yourself. So if it doesn't edify the church keep it between you and God. Don't push unbelievers away to have your "blessing".
---willa5568 on 8/13/11


As children of God we have a duty to discern between good and evil. There is no such term as Slain in the Spirit in scripture. A martial arts expert of 30 years by the name of Tom Cameron from Chicago is featured on u tube as the Human Stun Gun He practices a Chinese skill called Dim Mak or death touch. He touches pressure points to disable his opponent which can either kill or disable. This interrupts the flow of energy in the body and is called the Chi. Killer moves video, martial arts. Compare these videos with the videos of the tele evangelist and you will see some striking similarities. These are ordinary people with extra ordinary power by Satan. test the spirits for not all is of God
---brideofchrist on 8/13/11


charismatic preacher + gullible people + lots of music and not-so-subtle cues
(like blowing into a mic, screaming "fire fire " at the top of their lungs) its sensory delusions & people who its happened to experience very real sensations, even though its completely mental. and in some cases it's people acting like drama queens, basically faking. (you see them, thrashing around in seemingly endless ecstasy, yet fixing their skirts at the same time). certainly, being slain is not exclusive to christianity. other religions have the same phenomona (kundalini, osho, yellow bamboo) & surely cults are no stranger to these kind of theatrics.
---john on 12/31/10


Yes, you can be slain(overcome) in the Spirit. You just cant stand there, You will fall before HIM, not of free will. The few times this has happened to me is when I have been in deep prayer and during prayer meetings. It felt like rain drops all over me and I could not move.
---duane on 12/16/10


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TV verses the Bible.
It's not rocket science.
Psalms: 20 - 7- some trust in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of the Lord our God.
Proverds 3: 5 - Trust in the Lord with all thine heart, and lean not unto thine own understanding.
---Bee on 12/14/10


I know this ia controversial topic but I am going to tell you what I know and have experienced. First of all, I have experienced being slain in the Spirit. On many occasions throughout my life I have experienced the power of God on me and in me. I have been in many places where the power of God has overwhelmed me and I have started crying or fallen down. No one knocked me over, no one pushed me. Nor have I whipped myself up into a frenzy. All I can say is this: I know what I have experienced. However, I guess there are always going to be sceptics and , without experiencing it for yourself, you will never know whether it is real or not.
---Jon on 12/14/10


This manifestation is called the shekinah glory, the divine presence of God. And yes it is very common during praise, worship, and prayer. It's when God's Holiness overwhelms you. Please read II Chronicles 5:13,14, Daniel 10:8,9. Recall how God's shekinah glory came upon Paul on the road to Damascus. Those with him heard the voice, but they did not hear the Hebrew speech. Please read Acts 9:3-9, 22:6-11, 26:12-18.
---Eloy on 2/19/08


We are commanded to not quench the Spirit, and to do the works of God. Just because some counterfeit God's behavior, does not mean all are counterfeiting God's behavior. If anyone knowingly disses the works of God, they are blaspheming the Holy Spirit, and there is no forgiveness for this. Every work will be exposed whether it is of God or not, and we know that being "slain in the Spirit" is of God. Get in the Spirit, and do not be concerned about the imposters among the body.
---Eloy on 2/19/08


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I still would like someone to show me where being slain in the Spirit is actually found in the Bible.

Could it be there are many people who are guilty of doing what is found in Romans 1:25, and Revelation 22:18-19?
---Rob on 2/18/08


MikeM...Your scientific explanations tell me that God knew what He was doing when He created us. Our body works the way it does because HE made it that way.
---Susie on 2/16/08


(Acts 19:1-20) Remember what Jesus said about discerning the type of tree: its by it's fruit! TRY THIS... Stop Judging so quickly and Watch their lives for a Godly change. I know, I've seen The Fakes, The well-meaning-Imitators, and ...I've seen legitimate movements of God. Check it against God's Word: It's in the book! (See 1st Cor, chapters 12,13,+14) I know that the Holy Spirit is active today, otherwise NO ONE would be getting saved, Healed, nor would any be called into ministry on the spot.
---timoth8496 on 2/16/08


In the 1980's some big time preachers were brought down with tape recorders, and other devices. One was being sent messeges by his wife to an electronic ear-phone. He went bankrupt in a big scandel. The irony is he is back in 'business' this time marketing 'prayer cloths' and 'Dead Sea healing water.' He again is making millions, Peter Popov. Even when confronted with objective reality people do not learn.
---MikeM on 2/15/08


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Tongues,Glosserlia is the release of endorphines in the bloodstream and is completly bio-chemical. Scientist observe significant cerebral blood flow and endorphine increase among individuals during glossolalia, concluding that the observed changes were consistent whith what can be induced in lab experiments.New York Times wrote about the study, and it has been published in Psychiatry Research: Neuroimaging, Volume 148, Issue 1, 22 November 2006, Pages 67-71.
---MikeM on 2/15/08


A few times I have posted scientific conclusions, studies about the source of glosserlia, no one rebuted or disagreed, so my point stands. I have nothing against most pentacostals, but it should be made clear what they experience is no more divine in origen than any other physiological function. It offends when its Televangelist using this phenonomen for profit as when the preacher, in front of a TV Camera claims "God s spirit told me to tell you all to send me your $$$"
---MikeM on 2/15/08


Leon and Eloy, My experance was over 20 years ago, older then many of the bloggers. What I would do for a test is to call out in the name of Jesus for Satan and the demons to leave. I have done that before and was almost thrown out of the church because the "spirit" left and no one was falling over anymore. Go fish? What I find interesting is that Jesus was accused of doing 'work' in the name of Belzibub.
---Dr._Rich on 2/15/08


Falling out under the power is more accurate than slain in Spirit. It's simple,nothing mystical at all. When the power/Spirit of God falls so strong then the human body can't stand up under that power,the person goes down. It's the anointing of God touching a person to meet their needs. God never imposes his power on anyone who doesn't want Him to move that way. Remember Acts1:18 you will receive power after that the HG comes upon you,speaking of infilling of HG. Its given to us to minister to the Body.
---Darlene_1 on 2/15/08


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Dr. Wretch: Your carnal experience wasn't from heaven, but was demon possession.

That's the bad news. The good news is, while there is yet breath in your body, you can be saved (delivered: demon free) if you'll trust (by faith) & believe Jesus Christ is the resurrected, living Son of God who died for your sins. He is the one of whom the "whole" & Holy Bible gives testamony.
---Leon on 2/15/08


This manifestation is called the shekinah glory, the divine presence of God. And yes it is very common during praise, worship, and prayer. It's when God's Holiness overwhelms you. Please read II Chronicles 5:13,14, Daniel 10:8,9. Recall how God's shekinah glory came upon Paul on the road to Damascus. Those with him heard the voice, but they did not hear the Hebrew speech. Please read Acts 9:3-9, 22:6-11, 26:12-18.
---Eloy on 2/15/08


We are commanded to not quench the Spirit, and to do the works of God. Just because some counterfeit God's behavior, does not mean all are counterfeiting God's behavior. If anyone knowingly disses the works of God, they are blaspheming the Holy Spirit, and there is no forgiveness for this. Every work will be exposed whether it is of God or not, and we know that being "slain in the Spirit" is of God. Get in the Spirit, and do not be concerned about the imposters among the body.
---Eloy on 2/15/08


Ignoring Dr Rich, I think the charismatic movement had some good fruits, otherwise it could not have survived so long. But I looked into the history of the Renewal in the 20th century. Some students were told on a retreat to go away and come back with the definition of 'signs of Christianity in a person.' They concluded 'Speaking in tongues'. That finished me. Nothing to do with Love, obedience, the Word. It was now 'Gabble away nonsense, and you prove to be a Christian.'
---frances on 2/14/08


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Dr. Rich, that was neither rich or biblical.
It was demonic.

For this purpose was the Son of Man revealed that He might destroy the works of Satan.
---Cindy on 2/14/08


As one who had this happen, at the time I was convinced that it was the Holy Spirit because of the orgasmic feeling that came over me! Now I know it was from Satan and why Satan used the Pentacost to dupe the early church into beliving it was the Holy Spirit that came to them at that time. But John 20:21 shows Luke's story of the Pentacost was a lie. Satan had to tweak the truth for the new church and duped Paul. But God NEVER forces anyone by making them blind to be His servant!
---Dr._Rich on 2/14/08


What good is the show? If it does not bring unbelievers to God of what use is it? In times past barking like dogs was considered a sign of the Spirit. Laughter, shaking, speaking in tongues that no one understood, all considered signs. Proving just to be a fad, when the money dried up so did the Spirit.
---dan on 2/14/08


Susie. Not all churches use catchers. You are correct that catchers are not needed. There are times when we don't use them and have had no problem at all. People fall just the same. However,I have noticed that if there are no catchers people are slightly more prone to resist the awesomness of God's presence. There is no proof in the Bible whether or not there was or wasn't any catchers.
---john on 2/14/08


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I think that if you have never experienced being slain in the spirit, it is easy to knock it. If being slain in the spirit, there is truly no need for cathers. The reason some churches have catchers, it could be simply so the women in skirts can remain covered up.
---Denise on 2/13/08


If being "slain in the spirit" were truly from the Holy Ghost, there would be no need for "catchers" that are always on hand to catch those who fall. By the way, I believe Acts also and am a pentecostal who has seen too much added to scripture in today's pentecostal churches.
---Susie on 2/13/08


It is a very real thing to happen, but, like everything else, can be abused. Yes, a man or woman, can push a person, trying to "help out the spirit", also, the spirit can touch the individual without any help from the minister, I have personally experienced this, and my husband, that thought he couldn't be slain in the spirit, went forward, and ended on the floor just like everyone else.The only scripture that I know of to back this up, would be when Saul fell under the power of God.
---Gayla on 2/13/08


If you don't know, I'd be careful what you say. I'd talk with an individual and see how the person speaks for oneself. One could be getting special rest of the Holy Spirit's Heavenly love (Matthew 11:29, Romans 5:5). Another could be shut down by a demon. And someone else could be "self-inducing", which I'd consider also to be demonic...since we are to depend on God (2 Corinthians 3:4-5) and always submit to Him (James 4:7), and not take anything on ourselves (Philippians 2:13).
---Bill_bila5659 on 2/13/08


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You will not find a place in the Bible that mentions being slain in the spirit.

People need to remember there are many different spirits in this world and they are not all of or from God.

When I think about people talking about being slain in the spirit, and the way they act, they remind of what the Bible mentions about those people who were demon possesed.
---Rob on 2/13/08


If you fake it and go down you are also condemned, even though it is a good way to escape the singing in tongues being forced on you. I think all these things are an open door to deceiving spirits.
---frances on 2/13/08


There is much Scriptural evidence to show that when the presence of the Lord or angels came that most people did not remain standing. I never used to believe in it and like many, thought it to be fake, until it happened to me despite the fact I was resisting. Maybe some fake it but then there are those who fake prayer and singing and even Christianity too.
---john on 2/13/08


A 'famous' preacher comes and lays hands on everyone and they fall like dominoes. If you don't fall down you will be singled out as a resister. No, I think this is not of God.
---frances on 2/13/08


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It is real and does happen on occasion.I did not believe in it either when I was a baby Christian.As a matter of fact I thought it might be painful when it happened so wouldn't go down to the altar where someone was praying when that took place.So when it happened to me it was totally unexpected and I was never the same but was a better person.A more triumphant Christian.
---shirley on 2/13/08


Might I also add I am an educated woman whose psychological profile is-I am a strutctered realist who is task oriented but because of personal experiences I believe every thing in the book of Acts is for Christians now.I could go on for hours.
---shirley on 2/13/08


I have experienced God's presence so great that I could barely stand, but I've also experienced a man's hand pushing against my forehead in an earnest attempt to slay me himself. I think the important thing is to be open to the Holy Spirit moving how he chooses in order to receive complete healing or blessing in your life. That said we should never try to conjure (sp?) up something in order to impress others or convince ourselves that God is at work.
---kady on 2/13/08


It is all fake, don't be suckered in by sham ministries.
---notlaw99 on 2/13/08


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It's a fond thing, vainly invented, founded upon no warrant of Scripture, but rather repugnant to the Word of God.
---Jack on 2/13/08


I think it could be any of the 3 options you give and a fourth - fake. Perhaps not the kind of fake designed to deceive but faked because some people just do what they think others are expecting them to do - to please and to conform.
---RitaH on 2/13/08


This is something that is totally of the flesh. Many people think they should be "slain in the spirit" everytime they go to church. We have one friend who gets this way every time anyone prays for her. It is totally a drama queen thing for her.
---Susie on 2/13/08


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