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How do you feel about Christians doing yoga? Do you believe God is okay with it or not?

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I think using yoga as a form of physical fitness is okay, it benefits people who can not do other forms of excercise because of physical disabilities. To adopt the yoga philosophy would be a contradiction to a Godly life.
---Denise on 4/1/08


Is that how you would JUSTIFIY yourself?
LET'S say that you was sent in Blazin and YOU KILLED some Innocent Children?
Would/Could you say,OH WELL, I SAVED A FEW OTHERS!
Let's keep the Waco topic in mind when making up your mind.
Who knows maybe you were their and this is how you/they deal with the Guilt for Killing Innocent Children?
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 3/31/08


NO!
Like I said "THEY" could have done it DIFFERANTLY, They had a few chances to GET him, BEFORE that day...
Are you not listening for a REASON?
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 3/31/08


Duane_Dudley_Martin:

That's why they waited almost a month before going in. How long were they SUPPOSED to wait?

Going in with guns blazing might endanger the children, but wouldn't leaving a bunch of children in the hands of a trigger-happy fanatic in a hopeless situation with dwindling food supplies be even MORE dangerous? Look at what happened to Jonestown - it would have been better for them if the military HAD gone in there with guns blazing, at least that way SOME might have survived.
---StrongAxe on 3/31/08


I wonder IF they'll consider Enforcing the Mark of the Beast, "Their Job?"

They could have caught that NutCase(D.Karesh) on the Streets just days before.
They(Janet Reno & Co.) wanted to make a Statement to ALL Religeous Groups.
I Lived 60 mi. from Waco & know a cop that was their.
YOU don't go in Blazing like that WHEN Children are involved. Period!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 3/31/08




Frances008 people in Waco had broken the law buying automatic rifles. When the Alcohol,Tobbaco,Firearms Agents went to arrest Karesh for breaking the Law,he told his followers to open fire on the Agents. He caused the whole thing himself for breaking a firearms law,no private person could own paramilitary weapons which automatic weapons are,and again broke the law by resisting arrest. He was give a chance to send the women and children out and didn't. The ATF Agents were only doing their job.
---Darlene_1 on 3/31/08


Interesting to note how many make decisions and accusations on things they have no knowledge of.
---dan on 3/31/08


Oh boy, feel stupid Steveng-you were not speaking to me. I did not scroll down far enough on the mobile. Sorry.
---Kella3336 on 3/30/08


Steveng ... Have you ever:
Washed a cot?
Put a plaster on a cut finger?
Visited a dentist
Been to an optician?
Had a polio innoculation?
Put a cloth over your nose and mouth in a dusty atmosphere?
Used a nail file when you snag your nail?
Uses sunglasses?
Had a hot drinK to warm you on a cold day?
If you have done any of these things, you break the rules you seek to impose on others. There si a name for that.
---alan_of_UK on 3/30/08


I am not a christian scientist.I am a Christian.
---Kella3336 on 3/30/08




Nana, do you really know anything about Waco, Texas? A lot of completely innocent people died there. They were doing nothing illegal. They were exercising the freedom that the USA boasts about, and gives lives for in human sacrifice. Mothers and fathers sacrifice their children, on the altar of this 'freedom'. In reality it is a murdrous regime headed by the Vatican freemasons. It is such idolatry as Catholicism and the demons associated with Eastern religions that open people us to deception.
---frances008 on 3/29/08


Thanks, StrongAxe.
---frances008 on 3/29/08


"Are you a Christian Scientist?"

I don't belong to any earthly denomination. Denominations are man-made having their own interpretations of the Bible, their own traditions and rules. I strickly have a personal relationship with God and have a group of friends who are accountable to each other to grow in Christ and to keep each other on the straight and narrow. Maybe you should seriously consider joining a home church.
---Steveng on 3/28/08


Eloy: "Many Christians who have and do do yoga exercise have lost a lot of weight, toned their bodies, increased their concentration and memory capacity, and also expanded their lung capacity. Their daily lives have markedly improved as well as their sleep time, none of this is evil."

Is your faith that weak that God cannot help you in these matters?
---Steveng on 3/28/08


Eloy: "So likewise people practice yoga without the yoga's religion."

And God say to abstain from all evil and even the 'appearances' of such. The positions of yoga are the appearances of such. Is your faith that small that you must rely of earthly fads, vitamins, and medications to keep you healthy and live longer? Is God's power so weak that you must rely on fads, vitamins and medications to keep you healthy and live longer?
---Steveng on 3/28/08


StrongAxe: "Even Jesus himself employed medical prodedures - when he healed one blind man, he put mud on his eyes."

It was a placebo for the weak or non-Christian. It talks about its use throughout the OT. Sometimes a person needs a "trigger" to start their faith. The same for the women who touched Jesus' hem to get healed. Jesus turned and said "it was your faith tht healed you."
---Steveng on 3/28/08


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Nicola: "...how poses open you up to resonate with other spirits?"

I don't remember exactly what material I read it from. I studied the paranormal in the late sixties and early seventies. While attending engineering college in the 1980's, I studied resonance and how it was applied to transformers and the like in which I related it to paranormal. In fact, Nicola Tesla does ring a bell for he studied resonance (in electronic circuits) and applied it to the spiritual world.
---Steveng on 3/28/08


RitaH: "...what would you do if your appendics suddenly burst..."

It is written that God protects those who walk closely with Him even if someone tried to poison that person. Did Job consult a doctor for his boils? Did David and his friends seek a doctor after they were thrown into the fire? Non-believers and weak Christians trust doctors and fads to stay healthy and live longer more than God. He protects me until He is ready to take me. (you were talking about the body, not persecution)
---Steveng on 3/28/08


frances008:

I'm sorry to hear that penicillin has an adverse affect on you. Different drugs affect different people different ways.

Two years ago, a doctor gave me Omnicef for strep throat, and it was almost totally ineffective. I later asked him to give me Amoxycillin instead (since the penicillin family always seems to work well for me) and I recovered quite well.

Sometimes medicines help, sometimes they harm. Doctors aren't omniscient (but then again, they're not all evil either).
---StrongAxe on 3/28/08


On three occasions at least I have had life threatening pencillin and other drugs administered to me causing me to go into paralysis on one occasion. My friends son recently went for medicine for asthma and ended up violently vomitting. When she phoned me I said 'Stop giving your son their medicines.' He immediately recovered.
---frances008 on 3/27/08


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It is very dangerous to open yourself up to other spirits. The Holy Spirit's case is different he will choose and will come to you. You just have to read His Word. We need to study both the Bible and the branch of theology known as demonology, to make sure we are not welcoming demons into our lives by worshipping idols unintentionally, or practising the Eastern Mystic Arts.
---frances008 on 3/27/08


Steveng:

What is wrong with doctors and medicines?

Even Jesus himself employed medical prodedures - when he healed one blind man, he put mud on his eyes. He could just as easily have said "rise and see again!" without any physical procedure, but he chose not to do so.
---StrongAxe on 3/27/08


AlanOfUk, I think a common response for some people to things they do not understand is that it is automatically evil. I myself would not likely encourage someone to practice yoga, simply because I am aware of the false philosphy attached to it, they promote that the person can obtain a state of Godhood through their exercises: This is not true, although one may become healthier they are not ascending nor assimilating into God by their exercises.
---Eloy on 3/27/08


Steveng, Towards the beginning of this blog you were speaking of how poses open you up to resonate with other spirits? I'm not quoting you exactly here mind you. anyways, I was wondering where you got that from exactly. What books can I look that up, to look that up myself and read on it?
---Nicola on 3/27/08


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Eloy ... What common & spiritual sense!
WEhat does Steveng think God gave us brains and skills for?
---alan_of_UK on 3/27/08


Steveng, perhaps you would like to transfer your comments/opinions to the blog entitled Is Cosmetic Surgery Biblical and maybe tell us what you would say to any doctor wishing to help you if you had been horrendously burnt. Remaining on this blog though, what would you do if your appendics suddenly burst, you had a heart attack or were diagnosed with cancer. Do you carry any card stating DO NOT RESUSCITATE or NO MEDICAL INTERVENTION ALLOWED? Are you a Christian Scientist?
---RitaH on 3/27/08


When I was younger I practiced yoga, and it was not evil. All the extraneous philosophical stuff I just omitted, and I only used the beneficial parts: like stretching and breathing and balancing.
---Eloy on 3/27/08


.steveng, excercise is not evil. Many Christians who have and do do yoga exercise have lost a lot of weight, toned their bodies, increased their concentration and memory capacity, and also expanded their lung capacity. Their daily lives have markedly improved as well as their sleep time, none of this is evil. Yoga exercises are not evil, but accepting the false religion connected to the exercises would be sin: the Christian can apply the exercise without the vain philosphy attached to it.
---Eloy on 3/27/08


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steveng, you cannot prevent others whom are gaining real benefits and a healthier life to abstain, just because you think it is evil. Most people know that the Eastern mysticism philosiphies are worthless and cannot enhance a persons spritual life, but most people also know that exercise is a good thing and they will adopt their own workouts according to their own needs- excluding the bad parts and cleaving to the good parts.
---Eloy on 3/27/08


there is a custom of a certain civilaization which dives for pearls. They practice unceasingly on holding their breath and slowing their heart rate down for their long dives under water. These people whom exercise this way are not practicing evil. There are also ballet people whom unceasingly practice balance on one part of their body and stretching other parts on high bars and count their breathings, these people also are not practicing evil. So likewise people practice yoga with the yoga's religion.
---Eloy on 3/27/08


there is a custom of a certain civilaization which dives for pearls. They practice unceasingly on holding their breath and slowing their heart rate down for their long dives under water. These people whom exercise this way are not practicing evil. There are also ballet people whom unceasingly practice balance on one part of their body and stretching other parts on high bars and count their breathings, these people also are not practicing evil. So likewise people practice yoga without the yoga's religion.
---Eloy on 3/27/08


correction: So likewise people practice yoga without the yoga's religion.
---Eloy on 3/27/08


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steveng, Yoga exercise is not evil, neither does it appear evil. Only when man attaches false religion to their exercises does it become evil.
---Eloy on 3/27/08


I Timothy 5:23: "Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy
stomach's sake and thine often infirmities."
---Nana on 3/26/08


Eloy: "As long as the Christian practices yoga as a clean exercise of..."

Have you not read that Christians should stay away from such evil, and even the APPEARANCE OF.

Don't you trust enough in Jesus to keep yourself healthy?
---Steveng on 3/26/08


RitaH: "were there no doctors or medicines when Jesus walked the earth?"

Of course there were, but did Luke continue practising medicine or did he rely on the miracle powers of the Holy Spirit?

Doctors are fine for the non-believer and the weak Christians.
---Steveng on 3/26/08


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Steveng, were there no doctors or medicines when Jesus walked the earth? Of course there were and Jesus did not tell people not to use them. He performed miracles but He didn't say "don't use doctors or their medicines".
---RitaH on 3/26/08


Therefore do not pray for those people, nor lift up a cry or prayer for them, for I will not listen when they call to me because of their disaster. [Jeremiah 11-14]
---catherine on 3/26/08


Why would a true Christian play around with such. There is all kinds of sports. Go out and bounce a basketball. Go for a jog. To clean up your mind and relax have a good laugh with God. Don't listen to these devils on here.
---catherine on 3/26/08


As long as the Christian practices yoga as a clean exercise of toning the body and balancing the body and expanding the breathing, it is ok. But the Christian should not accept the false religion that is attached to the yoga exercises, there is no such thing as "chakras" nor "nirvana", etc. Keep your focus only on Jesus Christ, and toning your body is okay, which is his holy temple, but the Eastern mysticism and meditation is a false religion.
---Eloy on 3/26/08


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priyath: "Christianity is an adopting religion."

Christianity is NOT a religion. It's a relationship with God. Christ is not coming back to join (marry) a building, a denomination, nor a non-profit organization. He is coming to gather his church - the Christians, people.
---Steveng on 3/25/08


RitaH: "...be careful with such flippant comments."

Hold your tongue, Rita. Today's Christians depend too much on modern medicine, technology and all kind of fads to keep us healthy and to live longer. God could do this and a lot more. Didn't jesus and the apostles heal? didn't Jesus bring back the dead? And how much more can we do because it's written that we are to perform greater miracles than Jesus. But our faith is so weak that people need worldly ways.
---Steveng on 3/25/08


Good post, Steveng. You speak honestly and have done the research I think. There is some intelligent life out there.,-)
---frances008 on 3/25/08


The seeker of friendly are holding yoga classes in church. They are now making allowances for whirling dervishes on Sunday mornings. It can become deadly if you're in an aisle seat. Whirlers with banners can strike you upside the head, while whirling.
Twirling of batons is also making a comeback while striking up the band.
Twirling and whirling, yoga and food courts in the front of the church.
I wonder if Jesus is pleased with it.
---Cindy on 3/25/08


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Steveng "What has yoga done for you that Jesus couldn't do?" I think we have to be careful with such flippant comments. You could just as easily say what has 'paracetamol', a blood tranfusion', 'a session with a counsellor' done for you that Jesus couldn't do.
---RitaH on 3/25/08


Christianity is an adopting religion.Being a catholic after the second Vatican council adopting local customs was approved.As a result we were able to lean about Jesus in our mother toung.In this case christians doing yoga is not a bad thing if it is of any benifit to any one.Christians should learn to take all good things from other cultures if it doesn't go against the core values of christianity.
---priyath on 3/25/08


Steveng: "I'm not boasting, it's a fact that I can make you
believe in anything your heart desires using verses."
Well my buddy, if my heart was full of holes perhaps it
could have a place for your nuttiness. However, have
you considered Waco Texas?
---Nana on 3/24/08


Well, yoga comes in assorted flavors, and has active cultures. Oh, you meant the exercise. I'm guessing He's ok with it.
---Deb on 3/24/08


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What has yoga done for you that Jesus couldn't do?
---Steveng on 3/24/08


Nana: "Here you go boasting again!"

I'm not boasting, it's a fact that I can make you believe in anything your heart desires using verses. Why do you suppose that there are so many Christian denominations in the world today? There are some who believe in pre-trib and some who don't. There are some who believe in Hell and some that don't. There are some who believe yoga is good and few who don't. Some are right, but most are wrong. The few who are right do not belong to any denomination.
---Steveng on 3/21/08


Did I hit a nerve or what?
---Steveng on 3/21/08


Steveng 1,
Here you go boasting again!
"I have proven many times that I could make you believe
anything your heart desires by taking verses out of context."
---Steveng on 3/20/08
First off, that statement is in complete error, for you have
not made me to believe a thing whatsoever in any way
shape or form!
---Nana on 3/21/08


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2)
So far I got from you, "For your own good, re-read the
NT slowly.", whichthing implicates I lack undestanding.
Such understanding as you imply you have. Next you
say that I, "understand Scripture in a worldly way,
but lack wisdom to understand in a spiritual way." Then
I am "lazy to prove that the Bible is wrong" as if proving
that was my intent!
---Nana on 3/21/08


3)
All that because I said, "How are we to fulfill the
commandment if we do not focus on ourselves?" I will
show you now how true that is. You have placed me
with the wordly, below a standard that apparently you
have- that Berean thing. But you have been preaching
"...consider others better than yourselves", a thing that
your words to me totally contradict. You are preaching
one thing and doing the very opposite!
---Nana on 3/21/08


4)
If you esteemed me as you say we ought to, you would
had used a better choice of words. Your words indicate
that you are full of pride. Pride being the very thing that
Romans 12:10 and Phil 2:3 are trying to steer us against.
So you see, it behooves you to focus on yourself, for you
preach one thing and do the opposite of it. Brother, get it
right in yourself before you try and feed it to your fellow
man.
---Nana on 3/21/08


5)
And that is what I've been saying all along.
---Nana on 3/21/08


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Nana,
You speak/think highly of LOVE ("the GREATEST of these") and also 'SELF' ("in my inmost SELF" Romans 7:22). The person at the well also desired BETTER/special things of the heart and noticed MESSIAH quickly. She thirsted for "living water" (Revelation 7:16, John 7:38 tells us of our need for that). We read the introductory doctrine of Christ (Hebrews 6:1),...but I would still question the new age reliance on yoga (let The Lord's grace be sufficient for you).
---greg on 3/21/08


Nana: "...I lack understanding" You understand Scripture in a worldly way, but lack wisdom to understand in a spiritual way. Don't be lazy to prove that the Bible is wrong, put some spirit into your learning and become like the Bereans.

But as you wish...

"... honor one another above yourselves." Rom12

"...consider others better than yourselves." Phil2

Matt20:26-28

In fact, Jesus put others above himself by dying for us.
---Steveng on 3/20/08


Nana: "...however I will not accept correction... Rather prove your claims..." Many times I have quoted scriptures to many people and they would come back with their own interpretations of Scriptures. I have proven many times that I could make you believe anything your heart desires by taking verses out of context. I believe that today's Bible is more of a problem having verse numbers. Have you tried reading the Bible without verse numbers? You'll have a completely different perspective.
---Steveng on 3/20/08


Nana: "do not make claims and generic statements."

This is one of the downfalls of the internet - there is no face to face communications and these posts are limited in the number of words. A person can interpret a sentence in several ways. This is the reason the Bible must be read not only by grammar and syntax, but be guided by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit brings Chrisitans together in one spirit not just the reading of the Bible.

Search the Scriptures like the Bereans.
---Steveng on 3/20/08


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If I understand Yoga, it helps to relieve stress and helps you to focus and meditate.
Prayer done properly requires all those things. Focus, meditation and faith. I believe anything that helps you pray better, increase your faith, can't be bad.
---Mark on 3/19/08


"For your own good, re-read the NT slowly.
---Steveng on 3/19/08 "
As you are insinuating I lack understanding of
the NT, you are placing yourself above me in
understanding. I am open and willing to be
corrected, however I will not accept correction
from your generalizations. Rather prove your
claims with Scripture, I'll listen. If you do not
have the time to do that then, do not make
claims and generic statements.
---Nana on 3/19/08


Nana: "...that law do not ask of us to love
our neighbour more than ourselves but "as thyself". Love is a 2 way street."

For your own good, re-read the NT slowly.
---Steveng on 3/19/08


Anyone who isn't happy about doing yoga should not do it. However I hope no-one decides not to do it based solely on the fact that Hindus do it. It is not what we do but why we do it that matters. In most martial arts the participants put their hands together and bow to each other. This is almost identical with the posture we encourage our children adopt when we teach them to pray. I used to have to sit crossed legged on the school hall floor for assembly, almost identical to a yoga position - so what?!!
---RitaH on 3/19/08


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Steveng,
The commandment of old, even till today is, "...but thou shalt love thy
neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD." , Leviticus 19:18. It being a
commandment, it is then law, and that law do not ask of us to love
our neighbour more than ourselves but "as thyself". Love is a 2 way
street.
---Nana on 3/19/08


2)
In Philipians 2:3: "Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory, but
in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves." Is
that what you are refering to? Verse 2 says, "...that ye be likeminded,
having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind." and also v4,
"Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the
things of others."
---Nana on 3/19/08


3)
It does not matter how it is sliced, you have to tend to your "things",
whichthings that are of yourself.
Mark 12:29: "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments
is, Hear, O Israel, The Lord our God is one Lord: 30: And thou shalt love
he Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy
mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. 31: And the
second is like, namely this,
---Nana on 3/19/08


4)
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other
commandment greater than these." The Lord said that no other
commandment is greater than those. In both we find, "thou shalt". Who is
thou? Well, that'll be you and me and all of us. What "thou" art is that
which thing is your self and it is with it that you Love the Lord and your
neighbour. "Out of the fullness of the heart...", said the Lord.
---Nana on 3/19/08


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5)
Paul said, "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that
needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." 2
Timothy 2:15. Jesus also said, Mark 14:38: "Watch ye and pray, lest ye
enter into temptation. The spirit truly is ready, but the flesh is weak."
What is it that we are to watch, our neighbour? We might quite well have
to, but it refered to what we allow in our hearts, in our self.
---Nana on 3/19/08


6)
I will end now with some quotes:
John Calvin:
"There is no deep knowing of God without a deep knowing of self and
no deep knowing of self without a deep knowing of God."
Augustine:
"Grant, Lord, that I may know myself that I may know thee."
Thomas Kempis:
"a humble self-knowledge is a surer way to God than a search after deep knowing."
---Nana on 3/19/08


Jacob: "All in all it depends upon the convictions of your heart, as well as the influence which your actions may have on others."

How sad most Christians believe this nonsense. If i'm convinced in my heart that mudering someone is ok, that means I could do it, eh?
---Steveng on 3/18/08


sue: "Isn't praying something like meditation? When I pray I like to get comfortable, clear my mind and only focus on God. When I read how to do yoga, or meditate it's almost the same. Get comfortable, clear your mind and focus on whatever."

And that's what Satan said to Eve.
---Steveng on 3/18/08


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Mark: "...Use all the tools at your disposal."

Am I allowed to use the ouija board? Could I use the ouija board to communicate with God or Jesus?
---Steveng on 3/18/08


If in doubt throw it out! We KNOW there is going to be a false, counterfeit religion arise and deceive MANY! Hinduism is NOT Christianity. Exercise is OK naturally but leave the mind stuff to meditating on God's Word and how to apply it in one's life. "Perilous" times are coming-if you don't love the truth, you don't love Jesus Christ.
---terry on 3/18/08


Yoga is traditionally a form of Hindu worship however the question of Christians practicing yoga is a modern day equivalent of the 1st century question of eating food sacrificed to idols. Read 1 Corinthians 8:4-13, I believe this scripture passage would be helpful. All in all it depends upon the convictions of your heart, as well as the influence which your actions may have on others.
---Jacob on 3/17/08


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