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Judge Other Christians Faults

If a previous imperfect person all of a sudden has the gift of discernment, does she have a right to judge others current faults?

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We all have Discernment but to different levels: We are not to Judge anyone till we get ALL the FACTS Documentation: Proverbs 29:11. But God is the final Judge,and HE ALONE is the only one that can Judge someone to Hell.
And if a Christian judges you it must be in LOVE becuase no one sits that high to Judge anyone except GOD HIMSELF Gabby
---Gabby on 6/6/08


I perceive this more as teaching. Its difficult on a blog for someone to hear your tone of voice, or see the caring on your face. This makes it much more imperative that any error be pointed out with love and caring, not a slanderous rebuke. Backing your statement up with scripture is also helpful.
---NVBarbara on 4/23/08


Duane_Dudley_Martin:

Very right!

However, some people correct others in love, some correct others contemptuously, and some presume to judge others without any attempt to correct. These blogs are full of all three kinds of responses.
---StrongAxe on 4/23/08


Pointing out ones Errors, ISN'T Judging.
James 5:
19 Brethren, if ANY of you do err from the truth, and one convert him,

20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

Are you still W/O understanding on this Matter?
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 4/10/08


1#
1Cor. 6:
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 4/10/08




2#
5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
This is a ?, NOT a Statement!
ARE you NOT Worthy?
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 4/10/08


False prophets and false teachers speak death, curses and send God's wrath down.

For the vulnerable, listening to false prophecy and false judgments upon their lives, can cause them to stumble or turn their back on God.
I would question if this is really a gift of discernment or condemnation from the enemy.
---Monique on 4/10/08


Judge, judge, judge, I am tired of the word. I am always being misjudged and misunderstood. Listen up! Any true Christian God shall correct if this true Christian is guilty of this terrible sin. This concept goes especially if we are judging unbelievers. Judging true believers by other true believers is dangerous business. Unbelievers judging true believers is asking, begging, God to come down upon them with His mighty wrath, I am serious!
---catherine on 4/10/08


We are not to play judge to anyone faults. We need to make sure we have the gift of discernment and has spiritual wisdom in order to do this. Balance is the key. We have a tough enough time keeping our own house in order. We should focus on this first and foremost. But if a sister or brother is in gross error we should intervene but with love and wisdom.
---Robyn on 4/9/08


An ABSOLUTE is like TRUTH IS TRUTH IS TRUTH. There are no LEVELS/strata of an absolute, it is full and complete (only God is full and complete).

We are to practice goodNESS (Romans 15:14), but cannot be completely "GOOD" as God.

She does NOT have the right to judge anyone, and she should NOT have the desire and find pleasure in doing so. Having the desire to do so is UNGODLY. She has already passed herself off to you as PERFECT because she is puffed up/egotistical.
---greg on 4/9/08




Because of our human nature, everyone would rather judge someone else rather than ourselves, but that is not the way the Bible teaches. We are to judge ourselves and leave the faults of others to God. We are to judge the spirits of men but not their faults. We too have or had many faults and it took God to correct them, so it is with everyone else. Love, longsuffering and prayer will take care of those type of things.
---Debbie_Jo on 4/8/08


The key word here is "judge".We are reminded to remove the log from our own eye.1 Cor 5:12dictates from only within our church.1 Cor 11:27-33.I find myself at time judging people for thier looks,actions or misdeeds and have to remember Matthew 7:1 Judge not that you be not judged for with what judgement you judge you will be judged.
---Barco on 4/8/08


judging? when a christian concludes & points to sin without knowing the issues or the facts that is judging. sadly that is what christians are. they are quick to conclude & point to sin when asked about issues like money, self confidence, & attraction to the opposite sex. but when their issues are pointed to sin, they get insulted & say 'ye not judge.'
---mikehow on 4/8/08


Never forget 1 Corinthians 2:
"And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing."

Even if we have the vision to see the specks in other people's eyes throgh the planks in our own, we should still remove ours first.
---Strongaxe on 4/6/08


If you truly believe that you have the RIGHT (as you call it) to "DISCERN", you don't HAVE TO exercise that right.

If you enthusiastically believe that you have that RESPONSIBILITY but rather not find your brethren deserving of a penalty (or JUDGE/DECIDE against them), I'm sure God will oblige you with a verse to release yourself from this imagined responsibility.

Did you pray about it? How INTENT are you on relieving yourself of this terrible responsibility?
---greg on 4/4/08


Sag, I am so sorry that a pastor would make you feel so bad, not to go back to church, because the church "does not" belong to the pastor. Pastors are to guide in love, not to judge. A pastor's job is to point out that God expects more from us as Christians, and that our path is narrow.Unfortunately there are too many Christian's "in name only". Seeking the kingdom of God is what we are to seek, and not being self righteous as the Pharisees where.
---pgfdottie on 3/25/08


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Oops!!! I meant perfect:-)
---Deb on 3/24/08


This question suggests that we can be made imperfect! If the Lord gives us insight into another persons flaw, it may be so that we see that same flaw in ourselves. In that way, we can ask God for help in eliminating it. There is one Judge, and He doesn't need us to step in and try to take over!
---Deb on 3/24/08


I would rather be rebuked by a righteous man or woman, than be praised by one of the unrighteous. To be insulted by the unrighteous is the same as praise to me. (Though it is a way to humilty, ironically.)
---frances008 on 3/23/08


Be very, very, very, very careful. There is a slim line drawn between a person who has discernment, (based on what you are stating,) and a busy-body or a person with a holier-than-thou attitude. Discernment is more than just being a judge of other Christians. You should talk with a pastor or other Christian leader and see if you really do have a gift of discernment.
---WIVV on 3/23/08


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I must of goofed with the back button these last two posts belong on "wife sleeping with other guys"

-Sorry
---pharisee on 3/23/08


The thing that's hard to understand is that we have to look at our lives as all but over already. Time is not on our side, and what you do with your time with God now is critical.

Pray for her? YES, but how you pray is MORE IMPORTANT than praying. put yourself and your hurt aside, and if you cannot start there find another to cry and pray with- You can call me!
(sign up for pen pals on this site and give your address) Anyway, you need to subject yourself to your pain and pour it out to God.
---pharisee on 3/22/08


The next step- changing you, God will do it, but you must be open to the process as an active participant.

Sharing in God's power is only found when walking in the nature of Jesus.
WWJD?

call the sin, sin- check
trust and abide in God's presence-
release the person from their sin-
love them as God loves them-

I left the last three blank, you need to decide what you lack. Some hard soul searching is in order, and you need to get some time put into this process.
---pharisee on 3/22/08


Do you actually think you're perfect now and can go around correcting other people, Staci?

Are you THAT deluded?
---Jack on 3/21/08


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There is a "more excellent way" for a personal relationship to Jesus. A person will judge another person if JUDGEMENT is in their heart (regardless of whether they feel they have the right or authority). If you set yourself up as judge, you are not acting according to the spirit of God (read 1 Corinthians chap. 13/LOVE chapter, God is love, the GREATEST of these) and make YOUR choice to either JUDGE or LOVE.
---greg on 3/20/08


when a person judges another he is pointing to sin without any thought, he is full of arrogance, like the pharisees. & there teachings put others in bondage, weight on their shoulders.
when correcting, a person makes others improve & frees them from the thoughtless wrong conclusions of the one who is judging
---mikehow on 3/20/08


Nooooooo way!>>>Let God deal with His own. Unless you know without a doubt that He wants you to correct this other person. Butt OUT.
---catherine on 3/20/08


"does she have a right to judge others current faults?" No.
The Father is the only being capable of judging man, for only He knows the heart of man.
---josef on 3/20/08


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Which of us is NOT imperfect?
---Jack on 3/19/08


No. When God gave me this gift, I seen things through people I didn't want to see. But I only went to them when I was told to by God. Just because I have this gift does not give me the right to go to people and start judging. I only go when God bids me to go. If your friend does this, she is abusing this gift and God isn't pleased.
---Rebecca_D on 3/19/08


Judge NO. But by their fruits you will know them. Judging and knowing are worlds apart.
---dan on 3/19/08


If you really can discern someone, God is trusting you with what you are able to know > "to whom much is given, from him much will be required" (in Luke 12:48) > it is good to see the real truth about someone, so you can do what really can help the person. The spiritual gift of discernment, then, can help bring you to love people. If you see the real truth about someone, will you still love that one? You need to be strong enough in love so you will not give up on anyone.
---Bill_bla5659 on 3/19/08


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Staci
John 7:24 states Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.


It is not for anyone to judge but the Lord.

We are to make righteous judgments. This means to use our discernment between good & evil to pray and forgive the faults of other as well as to give prayers of rejoicing and thanksgiving for the Word of the Lord that we and other have received.
---Shawn.M.T on 3/19/08


IF you don't warn your Brother or Sister (Christian or otherwise) that there about to fall into a pit, and you just watch them fall into it.
CAN the Love of God be in YOU? NO!

USUALLY when someone says Quit Judging me, just can't DEAL with the Truth.
The Truth HAS Alway's Hurt the Ears of the UnGodley!
The Lord says to take your matters to the church Elders, So that every word can be accounted for, in other words "No B.S Allowed"
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 3/19/08


The Gift of Discernment isn't given to use to judge others at all. God gives That Gift of the Spirit, Discernment, to know what spirit is in operation in a person,whether holy or profane. This is done sometimes when praying for people and it also covers what a person is teaching or preaching,letting us know if it is of God. The same goes for people moving in the other verbal gifts,God lets us know when not of Him. Spiritual Discernment is a Gift of Supernatural Knowledge not Judgement.
---Darlene_1 on 3/19/08


Cindy: you seem like a pretty Bible savvy person.

A Baptist Pastor once told me, in person, and in NO uncertain terms, that the Bible actually says that we are indeed to judge others! I felt that the Pastor was judging ME. I'm not sure where it says that in the Bible. I was too upset to ask the Pastor WHY he believes that.

As of today, I haven't been back to that Baptist church and I still can't find any Bible scripture to support what that Pastor told me.

Any comments?
---sag on 3/19/08


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Yes, we judge all things and are judged of no man, as scripture says, but that's never cause to put away compassion and tenderness.

If the things presented are given in an "ahah" witch hunt sort of spirit, then this person needs to shut up and find some humility or they will find themselves being judged as well.

If you can't judge sin without judging the sinner your "gift" is a curse to you and no one will listen.

Is this a family matter? I bet it is.
---pharisee on 3/19/08


On a larger scale, God tells our nation to repent and restoration will come.

Though our sins testify against us, and our backslidings are many, we wander away from God, when we repent, we are not punished for our sins.

It's not our job to punish others with critical and harsh words. It's our job to lead others to or back to Christ using wisdom that only comes from the Holy Spirit.
---Cindy on 3/19/08


I've had friends who have seen through me, and this has done me a lot of good. I may have been hurt or quite upset, at the time, but . . . I'm better off not going on in being wrong. So, please visit and discern me in pen pals (o:
---Bill_bila5659 on 3/19/08


We're not to judge people, Jesus preached that many times.

For all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. If one receives a gift of sudden discernment, it would be without wisdom that one would begin jumping in the middle of others' faults, judging sin in their lives.
That's setting one's self up for a fall, without the wisdom of God. Jesus Christ is the Righteous Judge.

Far better to place your trust and faith in the Holy Spirt of God, to convict someone of their sins.
---Cindy on 3/19/08


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Judging done without God's approval, can quickly turn into condemnation. A critical spirit will speak critically and with harsh condemnation of others.

Far better to allow the Holy Spirit to convict someone of sin without causing someone to stumble and fall completely away from God - because a zealous man or woman decides to set themselves up as their judge.
Judging others harshly or their sin without the wisdom of God, is no better than the sin of the sinner.
---Cindy on 3/19/08


God also gives warning about judging others' sins, being careful lest the same sin come upon or tempt yourself.

It's better to lead the backslider back to God relying upon the Holy Spirit to restore, than spout off judgment that could cause someone to turn completely away from God.

False prophets speak condemnation. You'll die in a year if you don't do what I'm telling you. Fault finders, leave it up to God, His ways are higher and excellent.
---Cindy on 3/19/08


Ever encountered a false prophet? I have.
They speak specific curses over your life and point out your faults. It comes directly from the devil against your life.

There's nothing edifying or encouraging or restoring about a false prophet. It's all critical, condemning and without hope.
Holy Spirit tells us to repent and restoration comes.
---Cindy on 3/19/08


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