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Alan: Prince Philip is quoted as wishing to be reincarnated as a killer virus, to lower population levels. I don't know about illuminati, but that's definitely NWO thinking. In Christ\Ian
---Ian_8763 on 5/13/08


StrongAxe: Do You Know What Happens to millions of female babies born each year in China. At the hands of their own parents! What a wonderful population control method. And it really helps build morality. In Christ\Ian
---Ian_8763 on 5/13/08


Thanks for clarifying that, I did not know that fact, AlanofUK. It explains why the NWO insists on getting rid of all sovereigns. You can be sure the same people are behind all the slaughters of royal families from Russia to Nepal. I met a man who knew the Crown Prince of Nepal when he came to Tokyo. He said No Way did that guy kill his own family and commit suicide.
---frances008 on 4/25/08


alan_of_uk:

True. However, that is the same kind of power that a chairman has, who can call a meeting or adjourn one, but who does not himself vote on matters. She can stir the pot, but has no control over what goes into it.

In Canada, the Governor General has the authority of the Queen, (and is technically in the same position as the US president). However, his power is virtually nonexistent (except for, as you mentioned, forcing an election to be called when one needs to be called).
---StrongAxe on 4/25/08


The 'wrong' people Jesus ate and drank with were the ones he said had a better chance of getting to Heaven that those in long robes and high positions. Wrong in the eyes of the world is right in the eyes of Jesus. And vice versa. The Queen and Pope like to meet all the 'right' people, who are going to destruction. I doubt very much that they evangelize to them about the Kingdom of God being not of this World.
---frances008 on 4/25/08




StrongAxe ... You are not quite right.
If for example a government decided it wanted to stay in power, and not bother with an election, the Queen would have the authority to call an election.
It would be enforced, and supervised, by the police and if necessary the armed forces, both of which swear allegiance to the Monarch, not to the government of the day.
---alan_of_UK on 4/25/08


frances008:

Nowadays, the British royal family have very little political power - they're just figureheads kept around to maintain a tie to the past and look pretty. Their functions are similar to that of president's wives - their power is purely personal, not governmental.
---StrongAxe on 4/25/08


Tokyo is indeed very crowded. The problem is a lot of people need and want to live in the same place, and we all wish each other were not here. Yet we depend on each other for services. As soon as you get outside of Tokyo, the rest of Japan is like Africa (my African friend and I on the train together). It is deserted except for occasional cities. I mean there is SO MUCH space in Japan, and lots of flat ground. Overcrowding is all in the minds of the illuminati.
---frances008 on 4/25/08


frances008: "" However, she sits and dines with African (oil country) dictators, she has bowed to the Pope in Rome, wearing black.""

Seems to me that similar things were said about Jesus--He liked to meet, eat, wine, and dine with the wrong people, too.
---kumquat on 4/24/08


Alan, as a supporter of sovereignity and a supporter of Elizabeth 1, Anne Boleyn and co, I would love to support the Queen. However, she sits and dines with African (oil country) dictators, she has bowed to the Pope in Rome, wearing black. On numerous occasions I have come accross the same rumours in widely differing circumstances, Christian, nonChristian, etc. that say things about both the Pope and the Queen, that I could not repeat here. Do the research. The truth will shock you deeply.
---frances008 on 4/24/08




I think we should help those Who really want help, NOT those WHO just want to get what they can get of us, Because they can!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 4/24/08


If Frances says ""It is not our job to dictate what the poor do, but to help them out of poverty." I agree with her 100%
But in spite of what DDM says, the Socialist government of the UK is signally failing to do that.
We have some very wealthy London traders who are helping the third world, not with normal aid, but by enabling them to work.
That seems a good thing to do.
But I don't agree with Frances that our Royal family are illuminati & satanic
---alan_of_UK on 4/24/08


frances008:

Right. Family sizes are determined by economic factors. High infant mortality increases family size, which is why developed counties have smaller families.

The same applies to wealth: families are smaller during recessions, as parents know there are limits on how many children they can afford.

This applies globally. The world can only support so many, so as it fill, it becomes less comfortable. Hopefully people will have less children to stop us from becoming sardines.
---StrongAxe on 4/24/08


I am no socialist. I believe in kings and queens who are concerned about the safety and happiness of their people. If they are not then they should be replaced by the will of the people, with those who are. I believe in the rich classes (upper and middle). I believe in them treating the poor with respect - which they would if they could. We are being led by occult families at the moment. Secretly. I do not believe in revolutions, but in replacing the people who need removing from power.
---frances008 on 4/24/08


DDM, the Bible is full of how to deal justly with the poor, and berating leaders, and commoners alike for stealing from them. I suppose it is okay to steal from them as long as the USA economy does well. So that they can pay for flattening Iraq etc.
---frances008 on 4/24/08


This is why America suffers,
Fran088_says: "It is not our job to dictate what the poor do, but to help them out of poverty."

Yeah, what a Democrat!
Rape the American T-Payer to feed the ungodley of the World.
We tried that w/arafat,N.korea,ect.ect.ect.

That's part of the Problem, People thinking they can change WHAT God has put into a certain order.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 4/24/08


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StrongAxe, those in third world countries like Africa have many children because those children rarely survive to adulthood. Out of twelve if one or two make it, then they are fortunate. With food, then education, they will realize that they no longer need (or can provide for) such large families and would reduce the sizes voluntarily. It is not our job to dictate what the poor do, but to help them out of poverty.
---frances008 on 4/24/08


frances008:

Parents "play God" and decide who lives and who dies - they have children or not. Their responsibility is to ensure children have a "reasonable" environment (which is why families in developed countries have 2 rather than 12).

"'we' must eliminate 'them'" is bad, but also applies to Christians vs. heathen - it caused Crusades, Inquisitions, etc. Wheat's job isn't to destroy tares, but to be good wheat, so it will be recognized as such during harvest.
---StrongAxe on 4/22/08


The idea that 'we' need to get rid of 'them' is at the bottom of the brainwashing for the New World Order. This brainwashing was helped along mightily by the present Pope. It is based on the myth that the world is overpopulated. If enough people believe that 'threat' then the enemy becomes anyone who wants to have more than two children. Japan is really worried about surviving into this century due to the low birth rate. Same with Italy.
---frances008 on 4/22/08


What concerns me is that there are people controlling this planet who get to decide who lives and who dies. That is not of God. That is Satanic. Who gave them the right to play God? I am glad you saw the video, StrongAxe. It certainly gives us something solid as evidence of the agenda. God is in control. We will all go together when we go.
---frances008 on 4/22/08


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frances008: (1)

I saw the Georgia Guidestones video. I wouldn't worry about one anonymous person with a bit of spare land on his hands putting up a manifesto. Lots of people have lots of crazy ideas.

The "500 million" population target might be a concern. But also think about this: If the earth's population is too large for the ecology to contain, it WILL eventually stabilize at a lower number. Whether by war, or genocide, or famine, or planned population control, is up to us.
---StrongAxe on 4/22/08


frances008: (2)

For example, the Chinese only allow one child per couple. Such policies would cut the population in half each generation. After 3-4 generations the population would be reduced by an order of magnitude.

God said to "be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the earth". He didn't tell us to fill it past the point of overflowing.
---StrongAxe on 4/22/08


2
It is not hidden, but quite overt.
The lies, the killings, the coverings up.
'Lack of proper intelligence, mistaken identity,
Suicides, accidents' - not spiritual entity.
But I see what is happening
While some put on blinders
All I can say is
'Don't drink the Kool Aid.'
---frances008 on 4/17/08


3
They call me a conspiricist
Using discrediting tactics
'Where's your tinfoil hat?' they say
'Are UFOs on the way?'
Putting lies in my mouth
Then blocking my right to reply (sometimes)
I could fall in line
But I won't drink the Kool Aid.
---frances008 on 4/17/08


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4.
There's a monument by RC Christian
Plans for depopulation
The future of human history
Who paid for and erected it's a mystery.
Their aim is extermination
The occult is the explanation
Its written in eight languages (!)
So don't drink the Kool Aid.
---frances008 on 4/17/08


6 (Final verse- sorry I made mistake before)

Their strength is soothing words not muscle
Selling heresy as some new hussle
'Buy our books and get salvation -
Do-it-yourself is our denomination.
Fall in line to get your chip.
(Don't remind them what God has writ.)'
Christians are problematic to the New Age
They're after our souls now
So don't drink the Kool Aid.
---frances008 on 4/17/08


Poem (8 verses copyright is free)

The masses sit before their idol
The oracle speaks and shouts
Drowning out the gentle voice of God
Or lulling us into a sense that all is well
The good-cop bad-cop mind control
While your brain is switched off
And your TV is on
Don't drink the Kool Aid.
---frances008 on 4/17/08


I affirm NVBarbara's courage and faith. At the same time I have no illusions about the coming persecution. NVBarbara and I have had some differences in the past and I apologize for any bad feelings I may have had. We are all in this together. Please watch the youtube and be careful to type the whole title to avoid confusion with another video 'Christians take heed: Meggido 2' or google the Georgia Guidestones.
---frances008 on 4/17/08


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frances008:

While it is good to be vigilant, and mindful of such issues, we should not fear them. After all, Jesus did not give us a spirit of fear, and he's bigger than any of these.

In "Star Wars", someone was boasting about the power of the Death Star, and Darth Vader said "This puny toy you've constructed is insignificant compared to the power of the Force".

Our attitude towards worldly terrors ought to be similar.
---StrongAxe on 4/17/08


I do as the Bible says and pray a 'hedge' of protection around my home and my family. I always feel protected and have no reason to believe otherwise.
---NVBarbara on 4/16/08


Please google Bill Clinton Mind Control and you will find two interesting things. One, that the US government performed mind control on individuals without their consent over decades, leading to the death of at least one man directly. Two, you will come across two videos made of Clinton having his make-up done, and he is in an obvious hypnotic state.
---frances008 on 4/16/08


It is our duty to expose evil and to pray for the destruction of those who are dedicated to destroying the true faith.
---frances008 on 4/16/08


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Living in the Far East, they have a different stratergy to Bush and his flunkies. After all, they are the ones who produced the book 'The Art of War' on which Bush and his fellows rely so heavily. There are many mafia groups that adhere to Buddhism and Shinto, and they have a 'What goes around comes around' attitude to those who kill their protected members who supply them with information. So beware, these guys can travel the world.
---frances008 on 4/16/08


Japan also has its secret services, and also has its yakuza. God can use evil to his own purposes. If someone attacks a Christian, revenge is up to God.
---frances008 on 4/16/08


Evil, things like abducting and mind controlling innocent children to perform sex, or teenagers to shoot people, etc, etc, is the height of evil. It comes from possession on the part of the controllers. They then control the agents. It is black magic. It is demonic. Yes, the children of God have authority over such evil people. They may be the ones to tell God what happened on earth and bear witness against them.
---frances008 on 4/16/08


frances008:

Yes, Jesus and the Apostles did cast demons out of people who were possessed.

However, not everyone who is evil is demon-possessed, so exorcism wouldn't work in cases of "natural" evil.

And, yes, we should weep over those who are lost, rather than chortling in glee that they're roasting over an open fire.
---StrongAxe on 4/16/08


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Apart from disagreeing with you StrongAxe (I believe that demons were cast out of people by the disciples and still are cast out of people today), I look forward to the day, in Heaven when we will watch those being condemned for the evil they have done. Not very Christian of me perhaps....
---frances008 on 4/16/08


Any black ops against my family prove to have the reverse to the desired affect. They just go to prove the conspiracy is real and who knows, I may prove more trouble than I am worth. Look at the leads many truth seekers must have got from the death of John P O Neil, or Alberto Rivera, or William Cooper, or the victims of any other black operation.
---frances008 on 4/15/08


frances008:

Unfortunately, black ops are generally administered by real people. While we may fight against principalities and powers, and have authority over demons, the same doesn't apply to flesh-and-blood wicked human beings.
---StrongAxe on 4/14/08


Congregational hearing about using assets of the National Reconnaissance Office for domestic US surveillance for federal agencies. These satellites have the capability for extreme fractional decimeter resolution. There have been some obstruction from the ACLU but the congressional authorization should be forthcoming shortly. So if you are sunbathing in backyard this summer you may want to look up into the sky and smile. If you put your business card by you, you can be in the freckle count contest.
---notlaw99 on 4/13/08


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I come against any demons bringing black ops against me or my family members, Notinlaw99. So they are bound in the name of Jesus Christ.
---frances008 on 4/11/08


YIKES Notlaw99! I decided to look up what you suggested and guess what I found? Our blog about this 'snached' from CN - its on there 3 or 4 times! I found this using 'Dogpile' search engine.
---NVBarbara on 4/10/08


.rhonda, Even beasts knows that there are two kinds of life, wild and tame, and even a child knows that there are two kinds of people, good and bad, and that there is a heaven for the good and a hell for the bad. The fool mocks the truth, and your mockery of the truth in calling it fantasy, makes the truth I preach no less truer than it's manifested reality.
---Eloy on 4/10/08


.rhonda, Even beasts knows that there are two kinds of life, wild and tame, and even a child knows that there are two kinds of people, good and bad, and that there is a heaven for the good and a hell for the bad. The fool mocks the truth, and your mockery of the truth in calling it fantasy, makes the truth I preach no less truer than it's manifested reality.
---Eloy on 4/10/08


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.rhonda, pt.1: Only 2 Races in the world: 1- those born one time, from Adam- called, the cursed, the sinuous, the unregenerate, the fallen, the separated, the goats, the children of the devil, the blemished, the sinner, the disobedient, the dissing, misjudger and faultfinder, the hardhearted and stiffnecked, the antiChrist, the hated, God's fury and vengeance abides on them, marked with 666, the whited tomb, the dead, the burning tare, for hell's eternal torment in fire.
---Eloy on 4/10/08


.rhonda, pt.2: 2- those born again, from Christ- called, the blessed, the righteous, the born-again Christian, the raised, the reunited, the sheep, the children of God, the perfect, the well-doer, the obedient, the agreeing, forgiver and helper, the softhearted and bowing necked, the proChrist, the loved, Gods mercy and loving kindness abides on them, marked with 888, the temple of the Holy Ghost, the live, the shining wheat, for heavens eternal rest in paradise.
---Eloy on 4/10/08


**
strongaxe, My Lord has shown me that there are two separate races to be marked out in the world
**

pure fantasy ...the MARK will be a CHOICE ...just like mankind has been given choice to worship God from beginning ...MARK isn't something GIVEN ...TWO witnessess for God will begin preaching Gods Truth prior to return of Christ at end of age ...all minds will be opened to receive Gods Truth - a CHOICE to believe Gods Truth or continue with mortal life accepting the MARK of the beast
---Rhonda on 4/9/08


Eloy:

OK, I see. You're just using the letters T and F as abbreviations for Truth and Falsehood.
---StrongAxe on 4/9/08


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strongaxe, The scripture reads that Jesus is The Truth, and Satan the liar. the "digamma" from the ancient Greek alphabet has been dropped, and is the "f" used in the English alphabet today. It is the sixth character of the alphabet, and represents the fallen one. The angels will write our Father's name in our forehead, and no person knows his name except we whom are his. In contrast, the antiChrist will seal all those that choose him over Christ, and these will be eternally damned.
---Eloy on 4/8/08


Eloy:

How did God show you this? Somewhere in scripture, or via a personal revelation?

If the former, can you please show where? (Yes, I know that the righteous will be separated from the wicked, but I heve never read anything about "T" and "F" marks).
---StrongAxe on 4/8/08


strongaxe, My Lord has shown me that there are two separate races to be marked out in the world: Those of God, Ezekiel 9:4-6, and those of the devil, Revelation 13:16-18.
---Eloy on 4/7/08


strongaxe,
In Greek, the mark of the Antichrist is, chi + xi + digamma= cxf.
The Antichrist is, Nebuchadnezzar.
And the unholy trinity is number 666.
In Greek, the mark of God is, omega + pi + eta= wph.
The Christ is, Iesous.
And the holy trinity is number 888.
---Eloy on 4/7/08


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Eloy:

Where do you know about these T and F marks from?
---StrongAxe on 4/4/08


NVBarbara, this stuff is mild for more interesting blogs see the Mercenaries Missilers Missile Forms. Some of post you will not understand if you never pulled nuclear combat crew missile alerts.
---notlaw99 on 4/4/08


You're so bad notlaw! In hosesty I've seen some pretty odd things driving through the desert between Las Vegas and So. California!
---NVBarbara on 4/4/08


Soon in the last days two marks will be given, one to those for the T-ruth, and one to those for F-alsehood. All will know which side each soul is on, and many will desire and try to change their mark into the other mark in order to obtain the benefit, but it will be in vain.
---Eloy on 4/4/08


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Certainly, it is extremely obvious that the RCC is the woman riding the beast in Revelations. The popes have been the Antichrist. They are the only ones that qualify for the position. Jesuits are the power behind the throne.
---frances008 on 4/3/08


It is easy to go to hell. All you have to do is remain ignorant. 'Through lack of knowledge my people perish.'. I know my own family had the atttitude that if you don't think about bad things then they won't happen to you. Forget about what is happening now to other people. Then I told them the Chapter (13) in Revelations and asked them if they would accept the chip. They started to take me more seriously. One day, if you don't think beforehand, it will be too late.
---frances008 on 4/3/08


We are not until we get faced with it. God HELP ME, PLEASE. Good night everyone. I am about to sign off now.+++
---catherine on 4/3/08


Frantzen 008: I did not want to go this route, but prior to pretrib theory , Christians considered the papacy to be the Antichrist. The Antichrist will make claims to be God[holy father]? If you do a search on pretrib history, you will find it leading back to an apostolic Catholic Church, and before that, a Jesuit priest. The Antichrist is here today! The conspiracy has been here since the Garden of Eden. Turn your eyes upon Jesus, He Is the Author and Finisher of Your Faith. In Christ\Ian
---Ian_8763 on 4/2/08


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Hay Frances008, I still know some people who work freelance on black ops projects for Denialability R Us. My be you would enjoy a visit by one of the wet teams.

I hope that this will provide you something constrictive for you to be worried about.
---notlaw99 on 4/2/08


Jesus wondered whether there will be any faithful on earth still, when he returns. With The Mark of the Beast, it will be easy to force Christians into apostasy with the world, or just execute them for refusal of the mark. Some may escape to the hills. Our duty is to ensure that some do survive to be here when Jesus comes.

Of course a lot of people with no faith and no obedience pose as Christians, but they do'nt count. They will rush forward for their marks. I think. It will be interesting.
---frances008 on 4/2/08


I believe that it's because we have a natural curiosity to know what's going on around us, it's a form of being "In Control", BUT...having a conspiracy theory doesn't make them false, either, does it! The Revelation of John is a "Time-Locked-Puzzle" that will make complete sense for that specific time. Meanwhille, we Christians are like amature sleuths, who are making suppositions with the evidence that is increasingly revealed to us.
---timoth8496 on 4/2/08


Right! Thanks, Ian. I don't want to add to the confusion.
---frances008 on 4/2/08


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Ian, I also know a lot of Christians and good people are suffering a lot. It is, in my opinion, a deliberate thing. From the chaos they hope to unify us into a One World Religion. They have decided that a lot of Jews, Christians, Buddhists, atheists, Muslims, etc. will have to be sacrificed. This is why I tend to believe that God will have mercy on the many non-Christians. We are all in the same boat....victims. They want to put us into one boat, but we are already in one boat.
---frances008 on 4/2/08


There are so many ideologists, etc. on the internet and the media is completely taken over. So it is difficult to figure these things out. I read my Bible and hope that it will give me enough discernment to know the Antichrist when he arrives/or has arrived. As soon as the world is made one, and we are expected to worship the Beast. I will be expecting God to deliver his saints.
---frances008 on 4/2/08


Francis 008: part2: I would suggest doing an in-depth study of all these belief systems. Pretrib is an add on to pre-mil. Study the history, and I am sure you will find a conspiracy. I once was, but am no longer pretrib. There are more Martyrs today in the world than in the first century, but you never hear of it. In Christ\Ian
---Ian_8763 on 4/1/08


Francis 008: part one: for your own peace of mind, I would suggest finding out exactly what you do believe about end time events. What you are saying is a form of pretrib. teaching. There are three other choices. There is pre-millennial, Amillennial, and post-millennial. Pretrib. literally began in the early 18 hundreds, and has caused much confusion.
---Ian_8763 on 4/1/08


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Ian, I believe that Christians will be persecuted in large numbers, and then Jesus will come and take some large group of them bodily into the sky. It sounds daft, I know. At that time, I believe the sea and the graves will give up their dead. Presumabley we will lose our human bodies at some point in time. I really have not been into this subject. What is your theory? We may die first. I don't really know.
---frances008 on 4/1/08


Frances ... Yes that is right.
What is wrong was the first part of this entry from you:
"As I recall the ones who did NOT lap up water like dogs were the ones chosen. The ones who lay down and lapping water up were not ready to fight, so they were rejected. Maybe we are referring to different translations"
.
---alan_of_UK on 4/1/08


Jack: part 1: I believe that the answer to your question is a natural end result of pretrib.rapture theory[dispensationalism]. They seek conspiracies leading to an NWO, and the Antichrist. Pretrib belief and conspiracy theorists, became prevalent in the late 18 hundreds and is obviously widespread now.
---ian8763 on 3/31/08


Francis 008: Part two: please prove my theory wrong. Do you believe in a pre-tribulation rapture of the Church? If you do, then boy do I have a conspiracy theory for you! In Christ\Ian
---Ian_8763 on 3/31/08


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No, Alan, we were right. The ones who were prepared were chosen. It was not done numerically without any test. That was my point. The ones who crawled down on their hands and knees were not chosen. Those who stood like humans were chosen, because they were looking out for the enemy all the time and were good warriors.
---frances008 on 3/31/08


** Since Jack invited my name into the conversation, though otherwise this is none of my business. I will say that Jack's point is always the same
a. discredit the speaker before the audience
b. try and make the speaker feel foolish him/herself**

You're doing a satisfactory job with this all by yourself, frances. You don't need my help.
---Jack on 3/30/08
Thanks Jack, you took the words out of MANY of our mouths.
---Becky on 3/31/08


Frances ... I recalled like you ... but if you read Judges 7, we are both wrong. It was the one who lapped like a dog who seem to have been chosen. But how the narrotor could have thought dogs could lift up water in their hands and then lap from the hands is beyond me!
---alan_of_UK on 3/31/08


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