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I haven't partaken of the Lord's Supper for a long time.
Am I in trouble for not taking Holy Communion for so long?

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Nicole, you write many blogs. I don't think you would write so many if you did not really believe what you write. If that is the case, I am sure that Jesus will judge you at your level of understanding. You believe what you were told as a child.---frances008

Yes, I believe everything I write.
Why would I write something I didn't believe?
Just to trick you all?

Remember, I didn't learn my faith until I was an adult.
My family are culture Catholics.
Only the essentials was done. (which isn't right)

The notion that I am naive about the RCC is right.
Just like you have examined your faith and prayed for Jesus to show you the true Church, so have I.
---Nicole on 9/27/08


John in chap. 6 speaks at length about those who desire to Partake of His Body and Blood and further reiterates that He lives in those who live in Him.Most other people disagree and even scoff why b/c they have never had the revealing experience.Strange but True those who do are of One accord, defending the right to continue and offering the same advice Given by Jesus.WHAT STOPS THEM.Is it Pride stuborness."By their fruits you shal Know them"
---MIC on 9/26/08


Nicole, you write many, many blogs. I don't think you would write so many if you did not really believe what you write. If that is the case, I am sure that Jesus will judge you at your level of understanding. You believe what you were told as a child. Jesus said the Kingdom of God was for those who could become like little children. I have tried to show you that in actual fact the RCC is a cover and the engine for a bad event in the future, the New World Order, when Christianity will be virtually outlawed, along with other faith groups. If you refuse to understand the RCC role in it, at least look at the signs and read Matthew 24 and Rev 13 and 14 so that you ensure you do not take up the Mark of the Beast.
---frances008 on 9/26/08


Nicole, you are right, Jesus is a mystery. He spoke in parables and a lot of what he has said has more than one meaning to it. His Spirit reveals these mysteries as we grow as Christians. Holy Communion is not just a physical action(eating the bread and drinking the wine) it is also spiritual. We commune with Christ when we read and obey His word. When we sing God's praises. Anything to give God the glory is communing with Him. If you you thank God everyday, pray,celebrate Christ saving you. Doing these things help you to commune with the Spirit daily. But by all means, if you feel you should do it then do it.
---ginger on 9/26/08


There is spiritual understanding, and human understanding. Literal understanding, and figurative understanding.---Kenny on 8/20/08

No, you are speaking in a odd understanding fashion.

Lets try it again.
Ruben is asking you why do you think that Jesus refuse to let the Disciples in John 6:66 know He was only speaking spiritual not figurative.

Has Jesus changed?
He tells them that Lazarus isn't dead.
He tells them that the Mystery of the Kingdom would be told only to the.

If you can't understand the Body and Blood of Jesus, just say it is enough to me to trust Jesus.
It is a Mystery.

One thing I know. My Jesus never changes.
---Nicole on 8/22/08




Ruben, the Bible also says:

Romans 13:14
But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ , and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.


Romans 6:3
Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?


Ruben, we know this doesn't mean to rub crackers all over you to PUT ON CHRIST....so why is it so hard to understand those crackers you eat don't turn into Jesus either.
---kathr4453 on 8/21/08


Ruben,
I gave you the proof, but you still refuse to understand. Your question proves this. It's simple. There is spiritual understanding, and human understanding. Literal understanding, and figurative understanding. If you can't distinguish the differences, then you'll always misunderstand the meaning.
---Kenny on 8/20/08


All I will say is...

Mark 7:7-15
---John on 8/20/08


Kenny said : Many of you misinterpret scipture because you are unable to distinguish the literal meaning from the figurative meaning. Jesus mentions this in the book of John. Jesus says "Though I have been speaking figuratively, John 16:25.
---Kenny on 8/20/08



First when the Jews said "How can this man give us his flesh", why did he not say "Though I have been speaking figuratively" and when the disciples said " This is hard, who can understand" again why not say "Though I have been speaking figuratively" instead he says " My flesh is real food and my blood is real drink" and finally please tell me why your interpretation is correct ?
---Ruben on 8/20/08


1 Corinthians 15: 35Some man will say, How are the dead raised up? what body do they come? 36Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

Romans 6:4
We are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Romans 8:11
But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

Have YOU identified with Christ in death and Resurrection Life?????

To eat His flesh and Drink His Blood.
---kathr4453 on 8/20/08




I've said this before, and I'll say it again. Many of you misinterpret scipture because you are unable to distinguish the literal meaning from the figurative meaning. The deciples struggled in the same way and Jesus mentions this in the book of John. Jesus says "Though I have been speaking figuratively, a time is coming when I will no longer use this kind of language but will tell you plainly about my Father". John 16:25.
---Kenny on 8/20/08


J0hn:-Since you cannot placate the verse or remember Read JN6:27and35-36 and 40.Nourishment for the soul is as essential as Food is for the body.
---MIC on 8/19/08


I don't remember coming across where Jesus states
"His Body is to be eaten for eternal life."
I do know he says do this in rememberance of me but not as a requirement for Eternal Life.
For Eternal life I just refer back to basics John 3:16
---John on 8/19/08

Just go up 3 more chapters and 38 more verses to John 6:54

"Whoever eats My Flesh and drinks My Blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day."

Don't limit Jesus' Words to just the first 3 chapters of the Gospel of John.

The Gospel has 19 more chapters full of Jesus' Words.
---Nicole on 8/19/08


church calendar was changed to guarantee that the date of Easter never coincided with the Jewish passover.--StrongAxe

only Protestants are debating.--Nicole 8/18/08

I didn't say you didn't believe it. I said only Protestants are debating.
Some Protestants believe and some don't.

I don't know about any church changing dates.
Easter and Passover are moveable celebrations

Easter is based on a Jewish's Passover.
Easter originated as the first Sunday following Passover, when Jesus was crucified.

In virtually every other language, the name of Easter is derived from the Jewish word Pesach or "Passover." Thus in Greek the term for Easter is Pascha, in Latin the term is also Pascha: Catholic Answers.
---Nicole on 8/19/08


how one can celebrate a passover daily or weekly.--StrongAxe

Not, Passover, but the Paschal Mystery.
Easter follows the Passover.

Jesus was the Lamb rejected by the Jews.
But, He is still the CornerStone holding Jews and Gentiles.

Jesus fulfilled the Passover. He wasn't Passed. He was Scrificed as fortold in the OT.

Luke 22:19-20
..."This is my Body, which will be given for you, do this in memory of Me." and Likewise the cup after they had eaten, sayig "This cup is the new covenant in My Blood, which will be shed for you.

New Covenant means new not following the old.
Passover is completed on Easter morning.

Do this means action. What Lamb are you eaten in obedience to Jesus?
---Nicole on 8/19/08


I don't remember coming across where Jesus states
"His Body is to be eaten for eternal life."
I do know he says do this in rememberance of me but not as a requirement for Eternal Life.
For Eternal life I just refer back to basics John 3:16
---John on 8/19/08



"Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life and I will raise him up at the last day."( John 6:54)
---Ruben on 8/19/08


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Nicole:

I didn't say that I disputed that it was passover, just that I had heard there were some alternate theories (not that I believed them).

I'm curious, though, how one can celebrate a passover daily or weekly. If so, it isn't a passover.

Also, at one time, the church calendar was changed to guarantee that the date of Easter never coincided with the Jewish passover. So technically, most Christians don't celebrate the passover at all (or if they do, they do it at the wrong time).
---StrongAxe on 8/19/08


I don't remember coming across where Jesus states
"His Body is to be eaten for eternal life."
I do know he says do this in rememberance of me but not as a requirement for Eternal Life.
For Eternal life I just refer back to basics John 3:16
---John on 8/19/08


StrongAxe, only Protestants are debating.
Scriptures clearly shows Passover.

Please read Exodus 12. Compare this with the Passover, Jesus is celebrating.
He becomes the Sacrifical Lamb and He isn't Passed over. First born who dies.

The Jewish people had to eat the lamb that was sacrifice for them to stay alive.

Jesus states His Body is to be eaten for eternal life several times. No explanation given when the others left.
A change in Jesus' teaching method?

RCC teaches that everyone must receives Holy Communion once a year during Easter Season.

You can't have too much of Jesus. You can receive Him DAILY if without mortal sin.
ONCE IS REQUIRED. Just like the Passover.

What Lamb are you eating?
---Nicole on 8/18/08


The Last Supper was an event that will never be forgotten. It was the last time we had a meal with our God. He shared his body, his life, and his everything with us. He meant share life with people not for yourself but for others. We should sacrifice our body and life in fellowship. Not cuz we have to but to show others His Love through us. It is ceremonious and a good tradition but not a necessity to get to heaven.
---John on 8/18/08


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Nicole:

Yes, the Last Supper was a passove meal (although I have heard that there may be some debate on this).

Nevertheless, it's not clear just what "this" was when Jesus said "do this in memory of me". Was it breaking of bread? Was it fellowship? Was it celebrating the Passover?

If "this" is the passover, then it should be celebrated just once a year (and there are many other parts of it than just bread and wine, and it takes several hours).

So we can have communion once a week (or even every day), or we can have a communion that is a passover once a year. It can't be both.
---StrongAxe on 8/18/08


Holy Communion is designed to bring us closer to our Lord & Savior, Jesus Christ. It helps us to keep him front row and center in our lives. We are in trouble, if we drift away from him. We can loose focus, or be misled, or be powerless. None of which are productive.
---Gayla on 8/17/08


Mic, I know what you are taught. The reason I am answering. God never turns into an object that has no life. If you believe that then you are worse then the Mormons who believe Christ is an angel and the reason they are considered a cult. What you are taught is not biblical. It is a tradition added by the Church with complete disregard to the nature and diety of God. Not only that but Christ is at the right hand of the Father. The reason He is there is because the church has the Comforter, the Holy Spirit at work. "Jesus speaking on those verses was not speaking literally for He had not yet died upon the cross, the perfect sacrifice had not yet been offered for the remission of sins."
---Mark_V. on 8/17/08


Mic, The RCC mass is offered for the living and the dead, for those who are sick, for one's personal intentions, for weddings. Jesus did not institude this. I know many are sincere about their faith. I certainly was myself. But when the teachings even if they are sincere contradict the Word of God, those belief's must be abandoned and the Truth of God's Word embraced.

John 6 the blood and flesh but in entirely different context. The context speaks of providing eternal life through His sacrifice death upon the cross. Jesus body and blood would be offered as a perfect sacrifice for the remission of sins, and we must accept His sacrifice by faith. When we trust in His death we are indeed eating and drinking the body and blood of Jesus.
---Mark_V. on 8/17/08


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MIC,
Jesus tells me that I recieved Him with the baptism of His Spirit.
---Kenny on 8/16/08


Ruben, in your heart you know the real Truth. You just cannot except the fact that the Church you trusted with all of your heart is wrong. How could they? How could they represent the gospel of Christ so wrong. Just take the forgiveness of sins by the priest. A priest cannot forgive sins. Only God can. Simon the Socerer believed and after been baptized he wanted to buy the gifts of the Holy Spirit with money. Peter said to him, "Repent therefore of this your wickeness, and pray to God if perhaps the thoughts of your heart may be forgiven you. He didn't say confess your sins to me, you are forgiven. He said to pray to God. If Peter had the power of forgiving sin he could have forgiven him. No priest has the power to forgive sin.
---Mark_V. on 8/16/08


StrongAxe, Jesus states He is celebrating Passover. Matthew 26:17

Receiving Jesus is the highest form of Worship.
So receiving Jesus is the highest gift of all. Holy Euchrist.

You keep forgetting Matthew 16:19 Whatever you bound/loose on earth is bound/loose in Heaven.
This is Authority given from Jesus.
Whatever is Whatever is needed for the Church.

Jesus fulfilled the Passover and states this is the New Convenant during the Last Supper.

As for the Passover celebrating goes, we do celebrate the Passover yearly with Jesus as the Lamb.
Not the lambs the Jewish people had to use until Jesus came.

Holy Thursay
Good Friday
Easter Vigil Saturday night

Sunday Easter.
---Nicole on 8/16/08


Catholics must partake once a year, but since the Church is in eclipse and underground since Vatican II is is harder to find a true Catholic Priest...pray without ceasing..
---Friend_Of_God on 8/14/08

True Priest?
All Catholic Priest are Priests.
There are bad Priests, but they are still Priests.

Holy Orders is a Sacrament.
God promises to give the Grace.
No dependance on man to earn or behavior a certain way for the Graces.

He can be evil, but the Holy Euchrist is still Jesus.
Those Baptized by him are still Saved.
Those receiving the Sacraments of the Sick, receive God's Grace.

Look in the Phone book if you are having a hard time finding a Catholic Priest.
---Nicole on 8/16/08


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Christ didn't mean, His real flesh as you believe, He doesn't turn to an object, He is the nourishment that all Christian need to live, because He is the life. Without Him in your heart you have no life,---Mark_V.

What does the word 'real' mean to you?
Is it not the opposite of fake or symbol?

You want to RCC to take your words over Jesus' Words?
John 6:55-56 For my flesh is real food and my blood real drink. The man who feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in him.
V 57 so the man who feeds on me will have life because of me.

According to Jesus, He is in my heart.
I have life and not spiritually dead.

I just don't understand you MarkV.
This is so clear. Why are you refusing Jesus?
---Nicole on 8/16/08


Mark V :: As RC's we are taught that we recieve Jesus "The real Jesus "under the species of Bread and wine"to fulfill His word "He who eats my body and drinks my Blood I live in Him. and he in ME"That said we read in His word "Taking bread He gave thanks and said"Take and eat This is my Body"then taking the cup he again gave thanks and Said Take and Drink this is the cup of my Blood, which WILL be shed for you for the forgiveness of sins,for as often as you do this as a remembrance of me'Yes if Jesus took rocks and said the same words it would make no difference'But He used Bread and wine.I think it is you who have hardened your heart, missed the message and disagree.Just MHO.
---MIC on 8/15/08


MIC,
You can't answer my questions so continueing any conversations of "truth" with you is pointless. By the way, I do have "the book" and I've mentioned it in greater detail in another blog to you.
---Kenny on 8/15/08


KENNY:Thank you for your advice.But the Bible "HIS WORD" which I use, speaks truth hence its constant reminder to those who deliberately twist the truth.Need I say more.If you dont agree. you need not respond uncourteously.Please do not be tired -Seek the truth.If the point was pointless you sure understood.
---MIC on 8/15/08


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Mic, you and the RCC fail to understand Jesus words. Christ didn't mean, His real flesh as you believe, He doesn't turn to an object, He is the nourishment that all Christian need to live, because He is the life. Without Him in your heart you have no life, you would continue to be spiritually dead. One reason you don't get it and neither does RCC, is because you have no concept of what transformation is in the first place. You would suppose we eat Rocks too. God is called the Rock and not because He turns to a Rock, or an object, but Rocks abound in the hilly mountainous sections of Palestine. Often the rocks are of such size and formation as to constitute well-known landmarks. They also afford shelter, shade, and defense.
---Mark_V. on 8/15/08


Answer No!

But Jesus said unto them, They need not depart, give ye them to eat.
Christ gives us meat to eat and tell us, give ye them to eat.
But what?

Law,
Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?

Sin,
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Or
Faith,
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Act 13:41
Yes, just faith!

Mat 6:33
shall be added unto you.
Rom 14:23
whatsoever is not of faith is sin.
---Frank on 8/14/08


Catholics must partake once a year, but since the Church is in eclipse and underground since Vatican II is is harder to find a true Catholic Priest...pray without ceasing..
---Friend_Of_God on 8/14/08


Nicole:

If you rely on the fact that the Last Supper was a passover, and this is what we must continue to celebrate, then it should be done once a year, not once a week. I know of no scripture anywhere that says the passover should be celebrated on a weekly basis.
---StrongAxe on 8/14/08


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MIC,
Why does someone like you constantly use a bible verse out of context to make a pointless point. You have a problem understanding scripture. I'm becomming tired of your argument. I suggest you consult with your pastor, minister, or priest.
---Kenny on 8/14/08


It is a shame they fall for all the garbage they believe.
Just think, God manifested Himself in the flesh, and now they have Him manifesting Himself as a inanimat object, a piece of bread. And not just one piece, but millions of pieces. They don't care to keep the faith from heresy, they just want to except false teachings because their church teaches it. In the process, Compromising the very nature of Christ, 100% God, and 100% man. Now He becomes a piece of bread with has no life. Christ, without life. How radical is that? He is the way, the Truth and the Life.
---Mark_V. on 8/13/08



Mark how is it false teaching when Jesus himself said " My flesh is food indeed and my blood is drink indeed"
---Ruben on 8/14/08


Mark & Ken:-In Jn6 the chapter starts with 2 amazing miracles?Feeding 5 thousand with 5 barley loaves and 2 Fish, and again Jesus walking on the water, why are these 2 miracles still insufficient, even today to show that God's power is unquestionable. Even Satan knew His power Matt4:4 to change stones into bread.Yet today in this age of intelligence we doubt His ability "He who eats my Body and drinks my Blood I live in HIM and He in ME".And they claim the spirit of God lives in them.
---MIC on 8/14/08


Ken, this notion is odd that the disciples left over a symbol.
Jesus explains that Lazarus was dead.
John 11:11-14 a few chapters after the Bread and Flesh incident. "Lazarus is dead."

Matthew 4:10-16..."To you the mystery of the reign of God has been confided...

But, you what me to think that Jesus changed in John 6 refusing to explain Himself. John 6:52 "How can He give us his flesh to eat?" There upon Jesus said to them: "Let me solemnly assure you, if you do not eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you."
No correction as before. Why?
Because no need to correct them. They got it and understood Him. They just refuse to obey Him and left him. V 66.
---Nicole on 8/13/08


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Mark V,
Some are so stuck on tradition and miss God completely. I've been beating this drum of tradition for a long time in this blog and I'm very glad to see some understand. If I can reach one person, then I've done my job. I'm glad you're here Mark.
---Ken on 8/13/08


Hello Ken, all the Catholics know what you have said but they insist because of their faith in the Catholic church doctrines even if they are wrong. It is a shame they fall for all the garbage they believe.
Just think, God manifested Himself in the flesh, and now they have Him manifesting Himself as a inanimat object, a piece of bread. And not just one piece, but millions of pieces. They don't care to keep the faith from heresy, they just want to except false teachings because their church teaches it. In the process, Compromising the very nature of Christ, 100% God, and 100% man. Now He becomes a piece of bread with has no life. Christ, without life. How radical is that? He is the way, the Truth and the Life.
---Mark_V. on 8/13/08


Matt said :Christ did NOT have his disciples chewing on his arm or drawing blood from his neck.


No,but they question him " How can this man give us his flesh to eat? And what was his response " Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.(John6:52-55)

The mistaken belief that the matza turns into Christs body and wine becomes is blood as it enters the communion consumers mouth IS "hocus-pocus."


No mistake "Take, eat, this is my body"..."For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins."(Matthew 26:26-28)
---Ruben on 8/12/08


Nicole,
His flesh never turns to bread, and the wine never turns to blood. When Jesus speaks of eating His flesh, or the bread, or the wine He is refering to Himself as nourishment for your faith, soul, and spirit. You can't differentiate between the literal and figurative, or the miracle and magic. Catholicism has turned you into a scatterbrain.
---Ken on 8/12/08


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Ken::The Disciples, were confused when Jesus spoke of eating His flesh,True? Not all Simon Peter's answer Is clear as The sound of a bell JN6:69.That same denial exists today, by those who re-enact that denial,and yes there are some who like Peter- Nicole, Reuben and yours truly stand up in Faith. Jesus words emphasise what he says in Verse 70.I am sure you do not wish to take his (J.Iscariot's) place.
---MIC on 8/12/08


Nicole,
Your problem is identicle to the deciples. No understanding of what is literal, and what is figurative.
---Ken on 8/12/08


Scripture shows that what we call communion was not intended as some church-bound sacrament but something for Jesus' followers to do when they ate. As bread and wine, were/are common accompanyments to most meals Jesus initiated this, to be a regular thing, by which His followers would remember Him. A daily reminder or even twice daily.

However the RCC that lover of traditions of men, sacraments, pomp and ceremony (so un-Christ-like) has perverted Jesus gift, turning it into something religious.
---Warwick on 8/12/08


Thomas Ady, A Candle in the Dark,Nature of Witches and Witchcraft:one man ..that went about in King James' time, The Kings Majesties most excellent Hocus Pocus, and so was called, because that at the playing of every Trick, he used to say, HOCUS POCUS, tontus talontus, vade celeriter jubeo, a dark composure of words,..

Many people today believe that the phrase originated in a corrupted form of the words of the consecration of the host in the old Latin mass: hoc est (enim) corpus (meum), this is my body, an idea that was first aired by John Tillotson, who was Archbishop of Canterbury... part of an anti-Catholic sermon...Another suggested in current Oxford dictionaries, is the nonsense Latin phrase HAX PAX MAX DEUS ADIMAX.-World Wide Words
---Nicole on 8/12/08


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Ruben:

Exactly. It is done as a celebration, and a testimony. Nowhere is there given any kind of rigid schedule about how and when and where it should be done, nor are there any warnings or penalties prescribed for those who don't do it often enough (even though, as you pointed out, there ARE warnings pointed out for those who do it unworthily).
---StrongAxe on 8/12/08



But Jesus did give the Apostles the Authorithy : " Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. "(Matthew 18:18)
---Ruben on 8/12/08


StrongAxe, forgotten that Jesus is celebrating Passover with the Apostles as the rigid schedule of how, when and where with warnings, penalties prescribed in Exodus 12 stating for those who don't it: DEATH?

Jesus said He has come to Fulfill the Law,not abolish. Matt 5:17-20
John 6:53 unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you do not have life within you.

You can't separate the NT from OT.
Do you think the Jewish people call their books OT? No, there has to be a New.
If the OT isn't important why call a New? Where is the Old?

Nowhere happens to be in the WHOLE BIBLE!
Read Exodus and go to all 4 Gospels, esp John's Gospel. No Confusion.

Jesus is obedient, but you don't have to be?
---Nicole on 8/12/08


No Matt, Hocus-pocus is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit by Protestants trying to be cute.
Reference to illusionists magic tricks? Magic tricks origin from the Sacrament for the RCC Communion.

1. Mark 3:23-30.. whoever blasphemes against the Hoy Spirit. For they had said, "He(Jesus) has an unclean spirit."

What you are saying about Jesus?

2. Sacrament: "Seated at the right hand of the Father" and pouring out the Holy Spirit on His Body which is the Church, Christ now acts through the Sacraments HE INSTITUTED to communicate His Grace. #1082 Catechism

3. Holy Communion John 6:54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life.

Holy Spirit. Jesus calls His Flesh food and Holy.
---Nicole on 8/12/08


Ruben:

Exactly. It is done as a celebration, and a testimony. Nowhere is there given any kind of rigid schedule about how and when and where it should be done, nor are there any warnings or penalties prescribed for those who don't do it often enough (even though, as you pointed out, there ARE warnings pointed out for those who do it unworthily).
---StrongAxe on 8/12/08


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"Hocus-pocus" is a term we use in reference to illusionists magic tricks. Its' origin comes from the "sacrament" of the RCC communion. Christ did NOT have his disciples chewing on his arm or drawing blood from his neck. The mistaken belief that the matza turns into Christs body and wine becomes is blood as it enters the communion consumers mouth IS "hocus-pocus."
---Matt on 8/12/08


"If you take baptism you will turn into a new creation, and if you're not sure, just take the Holy Communion each Sunday and you can have Jesus real flesh, because He turns into bread, without a doubt."...What happened to the Trinity? Father, Son and Holy Spirit. It becomes, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, and Bread.---Mark_V.

Be careful, you are not cute.

According to your logic, then are you saying that the Father and the Holy Spirit also died on the Cross?

No, only the FLESH of JESUS DIED on the Cross, NOT HIS DIVINITY.

Only His Flesh turns to Bread.

He didn't say anything about His Divinity turning into Bread!!!!

Don't twist His Words.
---Nicole on 8/11/08


Ken, the ones confused left Jesus! They knew He was speaking LITERALLY! They were there not you!

John 6:66 As a result of this, many of His Disciples returned to their former way of life and no longer accompanied Him.

What did Jesus do? He didn't explained.
He just asked the 12 remaining if they were leaving as well.

Peter, didn't understand, but he knew Jesus' Words would come true. How? Peter didn't know, but spoke for all 12.

That's why he has the keys. Faithful.

John 6:68 "Master, to whom shall we go? You have the words of Eternal Life. We have come to believe and are convinced that you are the Holy One of God.

What confusion at the Last Supper?
Commandment given and we still follow. You?
---Nicole on 8/11/08


When Jesus used the bread and wine in the last supper, He was using them as a reference unto Himself as nourishment of your faith, soul, and spirit. Just as He refers to Himself as the temple to the Pharrisees, or to Nicademus as water in His explanation of baptism. The wafer turning to bread, or the grape juice, or wine turning to blood on Sundays as some insist is hogwash. Then, some just don't get it.
---Ken on 8/11/08


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Were'nt the deciples confused when they heard Jesus speak of eating his flesh? Do you think they understood when he called himself the living bread, or the living water? Do you think they may have been further confused during the last supper when Jesus said eat this (bread) for it is my body, and drink this (wine) for it is my blood? Not only do I think they were confused, but most of you who blog here as well. Let me explain. We must eat in order to keep our bodies nourished, correct? Jesus, in these few examples refers to himself as nourishment. We are to think of him and learn from him as nourishment for our souls and spirit. Why is this so hard for all of you to understand?
---Ken on 8/11/08


Jesus said "Do this in memory of me". He didn't say "Do this in memory of me every week, or I'll send you to hell". It was an exhortation to friends, not a command to slaves.
---StrongAxe on 8/11/08



"For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come."(1 Cor 11:26)

"For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body." (1 Cor 11:29)
---Ruben on 8/11/08


Jesus said "Do this in memory of me". He didn't say "Do this in memory of me every week, or I'll send you to hell". It was an exhortation to friends, not a command to slaves.
---StrongAxe on 8/11/08


Ken, your correct. Through the years the RCC has added so much to the Word of God. Why not, they believe they made the Word themselves. Why not just add to it, and why not just remove second commandments in order to be right. God warned us of this happening, within the Church. It is so bad that when they witness to the lost, they would have to tell them about Jesus and what He did, and they would have to say to them, "If you take baptism you will turn into a new creation, and if you're not sure, just take the Holy Communion each Sunday and you can have Jesus real flesh, because He turns into bread, without a doubt." What happened to the Trinity? Father, Son and Holy Spirit. It becomes, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, and Bread.
---Mark_V. on 8/11/08


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Well, don't you get homesick for having dinner with other Jesus Family people? And loving them and being with them would be part of the remembrance of Jesus, by loving and caring for each other like He has done by suffering and dying for us like He did on the cross. We do show His loving death (1 Corinthians 11:26), by loving like this (John 15:12-13) in the communion (1 Corinthians 10:16-17) of the body and blood of Jesus.

But this is how to be, all the time, isn't it? So, with each other we might build one another up in this, at the Lord's table, but then continue in this grace, in how we love, all the time. In the presence of our enemies, we can have all there is of God's own table.
---Bill_bila5659 on 8/10/08


Ken::I leave you in your thoughts with peace & with no desire to condemn correct or influence you. This must come from You, as its for Your benifit not mine.It has nothing to do with Jew or Gentiles.The lack of reverence you speak of is only found in other denominational churches.Making the remembrance a pitiful passtime.Sorry if you misunderstood my intent.
---MIC on 8/9/08


MIC, continue the Good News.

Jesus had trouble convining His Disciples of His Flesh and Blood being Food and Wine. AND HE IS GOD!

JOHN 6:66 As a result of this, many of the disciples returned to their former way of life and no longer accompanied Him.

Isn't it stiking that they left is recorded in history underneath Satan's famous numbers.
As if Jesus is telling us that Satan in the one causing these disciples turning away from Eternal Life.

Didn't he do this to Adam and Eve? He got them to choose death and not Life.

But, 11 men did accept Jesus' Words as He stated. Look at the RCC today! Matthew 16:18
the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it.

He will not trick the RCC!
---Nicole on 8/9/08


Sag, you are in trouble only if your faith is not true faith in Jesus Christ.
I would listen to Ken because he is almost right at the point. Traditions that were to be past down, were extended and now what they say is now tradition for the one's present. Maybe in the beginning they had reasons since they were living in the time of much heathen and pagan influences, and in order to bring them closer to Christ more traditions were added. There reasons might have been good in the beginning but original traditions were watered down, from what was past from the apostles and Christ. Every time the Church spoke, it was another tradition. And since no one could go against the Church they became law.
---Mark_V. on 8/9/08


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Ramon, you took to incidents to give proof of relics doing miracles today and made a religion out of them by excusing it that the early fathers were correct because you have proof of what they said was true, just because they said it.
First of all Acts 19:11,12, can be interpreted as the RCC using the same means that was used by the Itinerant Jewish exorcist. Just because God worked unusual miracles by His hands with Paul does not mean he is doing the same throughout history with Catholics or for that matter anyone. There is no way of proofing it authentic, coming from God. Just listen to what the evil spirits said to the exorcist, "Jesus I know, and Paul I know, but who are you?" and look what happened to them.
---Mark_V. on 8/9/08


Pitiful, ask Jesus if all this bickering and nonsense is something He approves. I think the boat has left the dock and the passengers have been so engrossed with sandbox style bickering, they are being left behind. Communion is a symbolic reminder of what Jesus' body went through. He was smitten, broken and whipped so that that by His stripes and Crucifixion we are healed. Paul wrote, that it is not I who live, but Christ within me. We are to commune with Jesus in the spirit and walk in an intimate manner with Him. Is it that hard to understand. Its so simple, why the debate and clashing of words?
---Robert on 8/8/08


Mic,
Your attempt to preach to me is washed away by your harsh criticism which unveils your hypocracy. I'm not surprised that you missed my point. Good luck trying to convince others of Christ's "Good News".
---Ken on 8/8/08


Mic,
1 Corinthians 11:17-33
I stand by what I've said. Tradition has clouded the meaning of communion today, ignoring how and why it was observed by Paul and the apostles.
---Ken on 8/8/08


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Ken::"Communion is a pitiful tradition of our own gentile stupidity"Sir, you are living in the yesteryears of the dark ages,who like your ancestors cried "Crucify Him"This same man'Your God" you crucified. In Jn6, HE left you a legacy worthy of your reflection."the living Bread',which if you partake. With deep sorrow as a retraction, will change you and your outlook to make you, one day worthy to say as did the Disciples "Lord save me or I perish"
---MIC on 8/5/08


Sag, if you are truly a Catholic, which I don't believe you are one.

I think you are a Protestant pretending to be Catholic, so you can act scared of the Holy See as if they are going to do some evil on you for not following rules.

If you are Catholic, do the rest of us a favor and convert to anyone of the Protestants Churches available to you.

Since I know if you were a Catholic you would be asking this question to a Priest, not to a bunch of folks on a Protestant website.

Moderator, post this if you wish.
Just know that others might be fooled, but not me.
---Nicole on 8/4/08


Holy Communion, Holy Eucharist, Divine Eucharist etc., or some sort of magical, mystical or mysterious works of the Holy Spirit are the conceptions of gentile religions. Listen up people. Jesus and his deciples were celebrating PASSOVER, and is defined as: the celebration of a historic event when God's judgement passed over the Hebrews, and was a festive meal commemorating the Hebrews liberation from slavery in Egypt. We (gentiles) have been grafted in by the God of the Jews, in the flesh born of a Jew. Communion is a pitiful tradition of our own gentile stupidity. The roots of our faith are jewish. Celebrate the Passover, and do it in remembrance of him or don't do it at all.
---Ken on 8/4/08


My church does not take Communion regularly. This use to frustrate me to no end. I solved this problem by taking Communion at home. I read my scripture,pray and take time to worship before taking the Communion.I feel so loved and secure in the arms of the Lord after this very special time with Him. I use grape juice and unsalted crackers. You can do this at home,anytime.Know the truth and the truth shall set you free. God bless you.
---Robyn on 8/2/08


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When in doubt always default back to Love.
---John on 7/9/08


It depends on "why". Is there something preventing you from participating? I have been to churches at Passover/Easter where they did not even have Communion. I am telling you, Christian churches really need to get back to Jesus Christ, their first love, and the purpose for their gathering together.
---Eloy on 7/8/08


You are not in trouble. You are just missing out on the Graces Jesus has in store for you in Holy Communion.

You are only required to receive Holy Communion once a year during Easter Season.
---Nicole on 7/8/08


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