Man Having A Baby Wrong
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Kella
I am a MtF transgender that has experienced the grace of God with a healing from a spirit of perversion.
If you need to talk about your friend PM me at alica4866
May God bless
Alicia |
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---Alicia on 4/16/08 |
As mentioned, I have a friend who is a man and is wanting to be a female.I have been honest with him and have tried to give Godly advice. I am saddened by the whole thing. Please pray for my friend. Thanks. |
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---Kella3336 on 4/15/08 |
Funny Dan! 'Take a walk on the wild side'("Lady Godiva's Operation") I hadn't thought of him til I heard that particular song at the end of some movie recently.
He was like a lyrical Hunter S. Thompson! ('Gonzo writings'!) Yikes, our age is showing! |
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---NVBarbara on 4/9/08 |
Is this a sneaky way that gay people can legally be married? Just one of them legally change her name to a man's name!
---NVBarbara on 4/7/08
This got buried near the bottom, but I see it as an important query. |
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---Steve on 4/9/08 |
Thanks RitaH for the correction. If you can't make a mistake, you can't make anything. :) |
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---Leon on 4/9/08 |
Girls will be boys, it's a mixed up world... take a walk on the wild side. Wow such a flash back to who was Lou Reed that had that way back? |
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---dan on 4/9/08 |
No women shouldn't be clapping up and down for this, if they are then they are condoning the sin these people are in. It doesn't matter how many surgeries one has to change their gender, it doesn't matter if they change their name. If your born a male then your a male. If your born a female then your a female. It doesn't change the fact. Michael: let a man have and pass a kidney stone if they want to experience what labor is. |
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---Rebecca_D on 4/9/08 |
Nyuk Nyuk Michael! That is a WOMAN having a baby, and not her first. Yes, I suppose some women would like for some men to feel the pain of childbirth, even just for a few minutes. You have NO idea until you've been through 20 hours of hard labor! However, when you hold that new life in your arms, its worth it, it was to me! Women have a higher threshold of pain. |
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---NVBarbara on 4/8/08 |
Isn't this what women wanted,
for all men to know child birth?
The pain,anguish! Women should be
clapping and jumping up and down
over this. |
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---Michael on 4/8/08 |
3) ...later on because of hurts, abuses and pain in their lives. But...the good news is Jesus can and does set those people free!! So we need to pray for them. :-)
One other thing...these spirits are actually "spirits of sexual perversion" and are in the same family of spirits as any other perverted sexual spirit that cause people to act out in a perverted sexual way or a way that is offensive and sinful to God. |
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---Holly4jc on 4/8/08 |
Transsexual people have a spirit of perversion they need to be delivered from. It is not a choice.
It is a curse on some. Others have a perverse spirit attack them while they are young because the devil knows that they are children of God. Some are delivered and some damned.
There are many misconceptions about them.
Many times straight Christians do more harm than good trying to witness to them. |
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---Alicia on 4/8/08 |
Leon, you have your xx and xy the wrong way round. xx = female. xy = male. |
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---RitaH on 4/8/08 |
Moderator: Will you allow me to say only persons who have...ovaries (aka XY women, females) can be impregnated. Persons born without...ovaries & a womb (aka XX man, males) can't possibly bear children. Only a "womb man" (aka woman) can carry (where?--in the womb) a child to birth.
Thank you for allowing me to finally exhale on this subject. :) |
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---Leon on 4/8/08 |
I seen some short clips on TV. The truth is, the "so-called" man is actually a woman that took male hormones in order to look masculine. She stopped the male hormones and was artificially inseminated in order for her and her partner to have a baby because her partner had a hysterectomy and she is unable to get pregnant. |
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---Eloy on 4/7/08 |
yes, it is sin, and goes against God's order: two woman should not be having sex, nor should they be bringing any child into the world without the child's father. |
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---Eloy on 4/7/08 |
Is this a sneaky way that gay people can legally be married? Just one of them legally change her name to a man's name! |
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---NVBarbara on 4/7/08 |
I am reminded of Psalm 139 in this matter. When I was raising my children, I taught them that they were knit together in my womb by the Lord, and that they were precious to me, and not made by mistake. I feel sorry for this person. I saw part of the interview, and saw a very confused person who, unfortunately, is going to raise a confused child, unless the Lord comes into that family. |
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---Trish9863 on 4/7/08 |
Hi, great point AlwaysOn, you're RIGHT ON with that! :) It is so easy to make fun of them and harder to remember that oftentimes such gross lifestyles are a result of bad parenting--not always but often. |
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---Mary on 4/6/08 |
So Confusing!!!
We need so desperately to pray for everyone!!!
Get on our knees and pray!!!!! |
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---colupy on 4/6/08 |
The man in question is a female to male transsexual.
The only surgery this person has had is removal of breasts. The female reproductive system is intact.
Biologically, this person is still female. |
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---Jack on 4/6/08 |
My opinions about this aside, Oprah is talking of mankind 'evolving' and of all of us being part of the big 'consciousness' and a 'new earth'. Cleverly, they have hijacked 'tolerance' as somethiing that Christianity (implied) does not have. She talks exactly like the Kabala videos. We are, apparently, supposed to go higher and higher until we become gods. (Hmmm.) |
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---frances008 on 4/5/08 |
Let's please all remember to seriously pray for this woman's repentance, deliverance and healing. Ditto for her partner and family who is supportive of this and, last but not least, the unborn child. This person has expressed a lot of childhood pain (mother committed suicide, father always wanted another boy, showed no affection, etc.) which has apparently led to their turmoil and confusion as an adult. What we're seeing is the result of all of this. Pray! |
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---AlwaysOn on 4/5/08 |
She has had to stop taking testosterone because it would harm the baby. |
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---RitaH on 4/5/08 |
Jack I saw it on the Net and on a news program. His name is 'Thomas Beatie'. If you type that in it should lead you to the stories. I just dicovered that he lives only about 30 miles from where we live in Oregon! |
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---NVBarbara on 4/5/08 |
I have a friend who is a male and wants to be a female. He claims to be taking hormones. He has three kids with his wife. I do not agree with this lifestyle and have been honest. Any comments and scripture would be appreciated. |
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---Kella3336 on 4/5/08 |
Wouldn't the male hormones she's taking have a negative effect on the baby? |
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---deb on 4/4/08 |
Jack:
It's a person who was born a woman, who has been undergoing hormone treatment to become a man, but has not undergone gender-reassignment surgery. Apparently the person is "legally" male, and has married a woman.
So, "he", being biologically a woman, can become pregnant. However, being legally a man, this will likely open several legal cans of worms. |
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---StrongAxe on 4/4/08 |
It's not strange at all, It's a woman that has had a baby the fact that she is taking hormones to change her apperance can only mean she's very mixed up, and should never have tampered with her body in the first place.I feel sorry for these sort of people because the scociety we live in accept their sob story about being in the wrong body, when we know God made Male/Female. |
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---Carla5754 on 4/4/08 |
Whatever is not natural is not of God. |
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---Steveng on 4/4/08 |
Wow, this is a good reason I'd never want my husband or any family of mine to donate or sell their sperm to one of those sperm banks .... you never know what will become of it. |
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---sue on 4/4/08 |
S/he was on Oprah yesterday and it was rather disturbing, as there was a young mother with two young children in the waiting room where I saw it at the doctor's office. She is a woman anatomically, but is taking male hormones to enhance male gender characteristics. I find it disturbing anyway. |
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---Trish9863 on 4/4/08 |
**I'm presuming some of you have read this in the news?**
NVBarbara, can you give us some kind of link, oir let us know if you saw it on TV or something? |
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---Jack on 4/4/08 |
Notlaw ... & I thought I was a pedant!!!
Most mothers would say they went to hospital to "have" their child, even if it is grammitically not the best way to express what happens
My wife "had" four daughters. So did I.
But sadly, she also "had" two miscarriages.
"Have" does not always mean possession. |
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---alan_of_UK on 4/4/08 |
This man was once a woman I think 10 years ago. She got her breast removed so she could have a flattened chest. She took testosterone pills or treatment for hormones. She kept her female parts because one day she wanted to have a baby. She/He is married to a woman named Nancy. She/He stopped taking the testosterone pills for 2 years now. His wife injected him with sperm bought from a sperm bank. He is 6 months along, and having a girl. He said he will be the Dad and his wife will be the Mother. Continued: |
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---Rebecca_D on 4/4/08 |
I saw that too Mod. Her/his 'wife'(a woman) was with him/her. I wondered who got her pregnant? Messing with God's creations is not right,
HE makes no mistakes! |
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---NVBarbara on 4/4/08 |
Since this pregnant person was born a female and has never had that part of her body changed into a male, it is not a man who is pregnant. They can say all they want on the media that it is a man having a baby. But, it ain't!!!!! |
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---Susie on 4/4/08 |
This whole thing sounds like a person who is trying to make a bunch of money by using her/his body. There will probably be a movie and a best seller resulting from this. The poor baby is going to be in the middle of it all. |
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---sue on 4/4/08 |
Barbara,
I saw the video on the net. This is actually a woman who had a sex-change to become a man except didn't change she reproductive organs. |
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---Moderator on 4/4/08 |
I don't mean to be offensive, but it just isn't physically possible for a MAN to give birth to a baby.
The birthing mother must be a WOMAN who is living as a MAN.
GOD clearly hates this type of lifestyle. Romans 1:26-27.
I pray for the baby. That their parents will recognize the wrongfullness of their ways and turn back to GOD. That would be best for both themselves and the baby too.
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---Augie on 4/4/08 |
It's hard to understand what would make someone do something like this.
After all, I've always been grateful I was male so I didn't have to endure childbirth.
What's wrong with adoption?
I guess that's no fun because we don't get to play God. |
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---pharisee on 4/4/08 |
This "guy" is an enhanced "gal" not sugically altered, just chemically.(hormones) It is just an example of man seeking his own way. P.T. Barnum would have been proud. |
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---dan on 4/4/08 |
2. The birth will have to be by caesarean I assume and once it has taken place I think she will realise that she is still a woman with all the feelings that come after giving birth. I wouldn't be at all surprised if one day she reverts to her real womanhood by having the 'added bits' removed. I pity the poor child as it grows up and hears the whole sad story. |
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---RitaH on 4/4/08 |
"Having" generally means possession.
Giving birth is a different story. |
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---notlaw99 on 4/4/08 |
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