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Was Peter Saved Early

When Peter denied Christ three times was he saved? Please remember Peter had already announced Christ as the Son of the living God. In other words, he had already confessed Christ. What do you think saved or lost at that time?

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I believe Peter was saved with his profession of faith in Matt.16
---michael_e on 9/22/10

No Peter was not saved yet. The Bible says that whoever does not have the Spirit of Christ is not His (Rom 8:9). None of the Disciple had the indwelling Spirit of Christ until He was resurrected. Remember after His resurrection He appeared to them and breathed on them and said "recieve ye the Holy Ghost." (John 20:22)

This was a different experience from the day of pentecost when they Holy Spirit fell on them in acts 2. They could not have been born again until after the death and resurrection of Jesus. That is not to say that they were eneimes of God but to say the time was not right until Jesus paid the price for their sin as well as ours. Blessings,
Erin James Sain
Awaken Ministries Ft. Myers Florida
---Erin_James on 9/22/10

Peter was saved later aft his denials.
Then he delivered The God given salvation plan Mark 16 v 16, Acts 2 v's 37 - 41 which Fulfills Matt.28 v's 19 - 20 to the Jewish people First on the day of Pentecost.
---Lawrence on 7/22/10

Hebrews 2:16: "For verily he took not on him the nature of angels, but he took on him the seed of Abraham. 17: Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. 18: For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted."
---Nana on 5/30/08

What does it means succour?
succour or US succor
help in time of difficulty
to give aid to (someone in time of difficulty) [Latin succurrere to hurry to help]
---Nana on 5/30/08

Jesus overcame sin as a man. He taught and led by example. Even washing of feet! And he said, John 8:29: "And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone, for I do always those things that please him." Are we men and women? To whom say that we can't never amount to anything holy and pleasing to God,
Paul says:
---Nana on 5/30/08

Romans 12:1: "I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service."
---Nana on 5/30/08

We as humans can never overcome sin, try as we may. Christ overcame sin for us. He died so we can live.
---duane on 5/29/08

Has everyone forgotten John 21:15-19?After Peter's denial of Christ,Jesus confirms Peter's love for Him and gives Him a command to feed His lambs,tend and feed His sheep. Peter's confession is answering Jesus'question.(Matt16:13-19)He asked who am I.Peter answered correctly and Jesus Blessed Him,with Keys to Heaven.The Denial was a sin,not damnation.DAN IS RIGHT. Duane,"sin has no power over you",meaning you can overcome and win.It doesn't mean we are back in the Garden of Eden.WE WERE KICK OUT!
---Nicole on 5/28/08

Mima, I think he was still under the blood of the lamb. He made a mistake, and repented. I personally dont think his salvation was ever in jeopardy.

1 John 2:1 "My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous."

Please note that he says "if" we sin...not "when" we sin. We should always be striving for perfection, as Christ is our example.
---Todd1 on 5/28/08

Why do you think Christ came to earth? When you answer this you will know that sin can never have power over you.
---duane on 5/28/08

I wonder why people assume that once you become saved, all sin in their lives stop?
Do we automatically become perfect people and no longer are in need of forgiveness and salvation. NO! I don't know anyone who has become perfect after they were saved by God's grace. Of course we don't stop sinning. Thus all the more for us to thank God for his grace!

We do try to lead better lives, but good works do not justify our salvation. "Not by works are ye saved, but by grace!"
---dan on 5/28/08

Jesus had not given up on Peter. So therefore he did not lose his salvation. Praise God, He does not give up on His chosen people. Peter went on to become a bold witness for Jesus, when God sent back His holy spirit.>>>To live in each true believer.
---catherine on 4/18/08

The Lord told him "when thou art converted, strengthen the brethren."
This happened prior to receiving the baptism of the Holy Ghost whereby the Spirit of God gave him the strength to confess Christ even though it meant prison or death.
He was saved and like any other babe in Christ not having the true power of God and boldness given by the Holy Ghost.
If only all Christians would seek it with all their heart!
---Frank on 4/18/08

I do agree with, "There is a difference between Peter's
situation and Ananias's." Not so am I in agreement of
the Lord speaking of what Peter would do and about
the void return. The Lord did not set Peter to do that.
---Nana on 4/18/08

God spoke to Moses about the "people" forsaking him
at a future time, Deteronomy 31:16. On that account
Moses ordered the book of the law be placed "in the
side of the ark" for a witness against the "people". Yet
we know that there has always been men who did not
as such as was told. Men like Noah and Lot, who
make the basis of Isaiah's saying, Isaiah 1:9 and
Isaiah 64:5.
---Nana on 4/18/08

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Like Moses did, Jesus also told of future events and
behaviors in order to increase the faith of his disciples.
John 13:19: "Now I tell you before it come, that, when
it is come to pass, ye may believe that I am he."
John 14:29: "And now I have told you before it come
to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe."
---Nana on 4/18/08

As the Lord would if possible not taken the cup, yet he
willingly submitted to God's will, he so desired that Peter
and all who believe in him be strong and grow in faith.
Yes, there was a difference between Peter and Ananias.
Peter most definitely was covered by the first Beatitude:
Matthew 5:3: "Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is
the kingdom of heaven."
---Nana on 4/18/08

As the Lord would if possible not taken the cup, yet he
willingly submitted to God's will, he so desired that Peter
and all who believe in him be strong and grow in faith.
Yes, there was a difference between Peter and Ananias.
Peter most definitely was covered by the first Beatitude:
Matthew 5:3: "Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is
the kingdom of heaven."
---Nana on 4/18/08

Peter, who was not a rock when Jesus found him, whom
any builder would have casted out as not fit for a strong
foundation, became quite the strong "rock" of whom the
early Christian's even believed that his mere shadow would
had been enough to heal them, Acts 5:15. Yet, even after
the cock sang out three times, the Lord appeared to all of
them, and Peter said "I go a fishing", and the Lord was a
grievance to him with, "lovest thou me?".
---Nana on 4/18/08

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Yes, Peter lied and denied the Lord because his faith was
weak and he was afraid and he was not at that time all that
he thougth he was. The Lord have shown that he will work
with such a heart and such a spirit that Love Him. Ananias
was in no dire situation, rather he premeditated the lie, he
planned it with his wife.
---Nana on 4/18/08

I find very tougth provoking what Jack said and also what
you said to Mima about being at once saved and lost. With
you and Jack I agree. Proverbs 9:9: "Give instruction to a
wise man, and he will be yet wiser: teach a just man, and he
will increase in learning." Peter indeed increased.
---Nana on 4/18/08

Matthew 13:12: "For whosoever hath, to him shall be given,
and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not,
from him shall be taken away even that he hath." Ananias
indeed decreased.
---Nana on 4/18/08

Here's a statement by Shirley that I'm inclined to agree with,"
Yes,Peter was saved at the time but he had no real power to stand firm until the Holy Ghost fell on him at Pentecost. "
years ago, I did a study on Peter and certainly something of a dramatic life changing event took place in his life. And the fact that the Holy Ghost fell at Pentecost might be the answer.
---Mina on 4/17/08

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Yes,Peter was saved at the time but he had no real power to stand firm until the Holy Ghost fell on him at Pentecost.Then he was an entire diffirent person who was willing to die for his faith which he did.All of the disciples died for Jesus except John who they attempted to kill and he did suffer a lot too.
---shirley on 4/17/08

There is a difference between Peter's situation and Ananias's. It was spoken by the Lord that Peter would deny Him three times. So Peter could not confess the Lord before man. All that the Lord speaks will come to past since the Word of the Lord is the truth, and does not return to Him void. But Peter, unlike Ananias, repented when given the chance to renounce the weakness of his flesh.
---Shawn.M.T on 4/16/08

We can be saved and at the same time lost because the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak. Thankfully we have a forgiving & merciful Lord that is always chastening us & will never forsake us.
---Shawn.M.T on 4/16/08

While Peter stayed outside the high priest's court (John 18:15-16), John "was known to the high priest, and went with Jesus into the courtyard of the high priest," then "went out and spoke to her who kept the door, and brought Peter in." So... John "the love disciple" was not afraid to be a known disciple of Jesus ("the is no fear in love" - - in 1 John 4:18). I'd say his being unafraid made way for him even to be allowed in while Jesus was being interrogated.
---Bill_bila5659 on 4/16/08

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Just before Jesus ascended into heaven Jesus asked Peter,
Do you love me Peter, 3 times Jesus did this.
Feed My Flock!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 4/16/08

Points to ponder:
Matthew 10:33: "But whosoever shall deny me before men, him
will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."
Matthew 26:35: "Peter said unto him, Though I should die with
thee, yet will I not deny thee. Likewise also said all the disciples."
Acts 5:3: "But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine
heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price
of the land?"
---Nana on 4/16/08

Yes Peter was saved when he denied Christ three times. I believed that Peter backslide. He was thinking of himself, didn't know if they would punish him as well. But when after the cock crowed the third time, Peter wept bitterly and I believe in his heart he asked Christ to forgive him. Because he goes on throughout the bible and was beheaded because of his love for Christ.
---Rebecca_D on 4/15/08


Peter was saved, his knowlege of Christ Matt 16:16, is evidence of the working of the Holy Spirit.

Also please note that Peter never denied that Jesus was the Christ, he denied that he knew him, due to fear of being harmed or killed.

In fact, when we open our mouth and curse as Peter did Mark 14:71, we are verbally denying that the Holy Ghost has done a work on us.
---trey on 4/15/08

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Jack, you hit the nail right on the head!
---Dr.Rich on 4/15/08

I beieve Peter was saved at this time. When he denied the Lord three times, he wasn't really denying Christ, Himself, he did deny who Christ was. Peter just simply gavein to fear, his flesh feared what could possibly happen to him if they decided to take him also. Remember, afterwards, all Jesus had to do is look at him and it brought him to tears. He would not have cried so bitterly if he didn't have the love of God in his heart.
---Debbie_Jo on 4/15/08

Keep in mind there's a big difference between what the BIBLE means by being saved, and what pop-0evangelicals mean by being saved. They are NOT the same thing.
---Jack on 4/15/08

I'd say Peter was saved, but he gave in to temptation, but did not permanently deny Jesus. Before Peter denied Jesus, here is what Jesus said > "'But I have prayed for you, that your faith should not fail, and when you have returned to me, strengthen your brethren.'" (Luke 22:32) Jesus knew Peter would *return*. Peter could not return to Jesus, if he had not been with Him, in the first place. And ones could not be his "brethren" if he was not a brother.
---Bill_bila5659 on 4/15/08

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