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Hank Hennegraff Preterist

Where did Hank Hennegraff get the scripture to come to be a Preterist?

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Obedience was the condition.
These people were under a Covenant of works, they had to obey or else. They hardly ever did.
---Mark_V. on 9/27/11

Your argument is with scripture. Not me.

Matthew 16:27
For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels, and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Romans 3:11
There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
31Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
---Trav on 9/29/11


Trav, you forgot to read what God would do "if" they disobeyed and guess what, they did. Under every Covenant there are conditions God sets for them, God said in Deut. 7:3,4,
"Nor shall you make marriages with them. You shall not give your daughter to their son, nor take their daughter for your son. For they will turn your sons away from following Me, to serve other gods, (Guess what? They did serve other gods) So the anger of the Lord will be aroused against you and destroy you." Obedience was the condition.
These people were under a Covenant of works, they had to obey or else. They hardly ever did. Some individuals did, those who were of faith. But the others did not obey. Read Deut. 9:13,14.
---Mark_V. on 9/27/11


Trav 2: Here is what God said of those people you mentioned in Deut. 7:
" Furthermore, the Lord spoke to me saying, "I have seen this people, and indeed, they are a "stiff necked people. Let Me alone, that I may destroy them and "blot out their name from under heaven, " and I will make of you a nation mightier and greater then they" So did all Israel get the promise? I don't think so. And guess what? The next generation did the same. Over an over. So please do not confuse those who are of the flesh with those who are of the Seed. The Spiritual Israel of God.
---Mark_V. on 9/27/11


Trav 2: That tiny word "If" involves a big issue. It concerns conditions.
His favor to the Israelites was conditioned upon their response to His goodness, upon their choices to obey...
---Mark_V. on 9/27/11

You don't accept the Northern House existence.
So for you the "if" has been accomplished.

The Lost Sheep, divorced/broken of Israel, did accept or you would not know of this GOD.
Christ did not fail in his mission.
Isa 49:6
he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the goy, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.
---Trav on 9/27/11


Trav 2: That tiny word "If" involves a big issue. It concerns conditions. God loved Israel, an chose her apart from any obedience on her part. He brought the people out of Egypt and bore them on eagles wings, and brought them to Himself. ye, contrary to popular opinion, God's use of "if" made it clear that the continuation of His favor to the Israelites was conditioned upon their response to His goodness, upon their choices to obey ( 1 Sam.2:30: Jer. 18:7-10). In other words, those of the chosen nation must themselves choose correctly, or the consequneces would be disastrous. Under the Covenant of grace the condition is faith, which is provided by God. There is only One Way, and that is through Christ Jesus.
---Mark_V. on 9/27/11




Notice the word "if" and "then" ...
---Mark_V. on 9/27/11

"if"...none n these. Deut 7:6
For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
Psalm 135:4
For the LORD hath chosen Jacob unto himself, and Israel for his peculiar treasure.
11For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? I will not give my glory unto another.
Isa 44:21
Remember these, O Jacob and Israel, for thou art my servant: I have formed thee, thou art my servant: O Israel, thou shalt not be forgotten of me.
---Trav on 9/27/11


Trav, Israel refused to obey the conditions of the Covenant. Cannot get a promise for doing nothing. At Mount Sinai, God said to Moses:
"Thus you shall say to the house of Jacob, and tell the children of Israel: "You have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I bore you on eagles wings and brough you to Myself. Now therefore, "If" you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be a special treasure to Me above all people, for all the earth is Mine, and you shall be to Me a kingdom of priest and a holy nation" Exo. 19:3-6.
Notice the word "if" and "then" God said "if" Israel obeyed, "then" they would be His special treasure.
---Mark_V. on 9/27/11


.... "Let no fruit grow on you ever again" Immediately the fig tree withered away" Matt. 21:18,19. Here the fig tree was a symbol of the Jewish nation as a whole.
---Mark_V. on 9/26/11

Thanks again for another opportunity.
Judah's Tree yes. Remainder of Israel no.
North House of Ten Divorced was not part of Judah.
Lost Sheep were not Judah. Lost Sheep were the North House....that you can't find. Christ could, his Apostles could. I can.
You blindly refuse them, and can't.
Ezekiel 37:28
The heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.
---Trav on 9/26/11


Trav, It not about tribes but about individuals from within Israel. Paul talked about Israel's apostasy in the days of Elijah, "I have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal" he was speaking of individuals not tribes. He then says,"Even so then, in this present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace" Just as in Elihah's time there was a faithful remnant of Israel, even so in Paul's time there was also a faithful remnant of believing Jews, who like himself, had been saved by grace. Base on the context of Romans 11:1-5is this faithful remnant of Israel, made up of Jews like Paul, God has certainly not "cast away."
---Mark_V. on 9/26/11


Trav 2: At this present time there is one nation of Israel as a whole, but not all Israel is Israel. Because there are believers who follow Christ, and there is those that don't. Two Isarel's one of the flesh, and one of the Spirit. Remember the nation of Israel as a whole was refered as a "Fig tree." Here is what Jesus said,
"In the morning, as He returned to the city, He was hungry. And seeing a fig tree by the road, He came to it and found nothing on it but leaves, and said to it, "Let no fruit grow on you ever again" Immediately the fig tree withered away" Matt. 21:18,19. Here the fig tree was a symbol of the Jewish nation as a whole.
---Mark_V. on 9/26/11




In Elijha's time there were two Israels. One followed Baal, the other followed God.
---Mark_V. on 9/24/11

In Christ time there are two houses as well. Romans deals with both houses. You like I were taught, Judah equals all Israel. A year scripture has shown that they are not. From Revelations back.

Lost Sheep were the Northern House. Judah/Benj was not lost. He came to his own and they received him not....Judah.
Therefore he went to the Nth House. Who are your Nations/Ethnos in Romans.

Matthew 15:24
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
The point?
You wouldn't like this GOD if he didn't keep his promises. Yet you don't honor him when he does.
---Trav on 9/25/11


Trav 2: "Has God cast away His people" (Rom. 11:1) Words quoted to prove God has not cast away any Israelites of the flesh. Yet the same chapter speaks of "the casting away" of some Jewish people who don't believe ( Rom. 11:15). Notice Paul's answer to his own question: "Certainly not. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham" Thus Paul uses himself as an example to prove that God has not "cast away His people." Pauls refers to Israel's apostasy in the days of Elijah. God told His prophet, "I have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal" In Elijha's time there were two Israels. One followed Baal, the other followed God.
---Mark_V. on 9/24/11


Trav, I avoid no one who is of the true seed of Abraham. The true Seed of Christ. The Bible is clear, God will fulfill His Old Testament promises to those "in Isaac". that is, to any human being who follows Abraham's example and who becomes part of His Israel in the Spirit through faith in the Messiah. Thus the issue is not race, bloodline, genealogy, or ethnicity, but personal faith (Rom. 10:12). Those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God, but the children of the promse are counted as the "seed." (Rom. 9:8). We cannot expect God to fulfill His promises to unbelieving Israelites of the flesh ( or to lip-only Christians of the flesh for that matter), unless they have faith in the Messiah.
---Mark_V. on 9/23/11


Only those who are of the promise will be saved.

One way into the Kingdom of God, through faith in Christ Jesus no matter who you are.
---Mark_V. on 9/22/11

Look, you avoid 3/4 of all scripture. Which is Israel.

By whose weight alone not support you at all.
You go against every prophet. None who define your doctrine. Your circular evasion speaks more loudly than your out of context evidence.
The sheep you despise, are the Bride and reason there will be others.
Will there be others? It is stated.
But, to go against the prophets is.....not wisdom.
Matthew 15:24
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
---Trav on 9/22/11


Trav, for you to know "the children of promise are those who "receive the promise of the Spirit through faith" (Gal. 3:14). Paul concludes
"Those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as the seed" (Rom.9:8). "counted as the seed" means that, although some may be Gentiles, they are in.
1. God made promises to Abraham and his seed, Gal. 3:16.
2. Abraham's seed would continue "in Isaac" Rom. 9:7
3 Isaac was born when Abraham had faith in God's promise, Romans 4:10-21).
4. Isaac represents everyone who believes in Jesus and who receives the promise of the Holy Spirit by faith, ( Gal. 3:14, 4:22-28).
---Mark_V. on 9/22/11


Trav 2:
5. All who have faith in Jesus Christ, Jews or Gentiles are counted as the seed" (Gal. 3:14: Romans 9:8).
6. This seed is "the Israel of God" in Jesus Christ (Gal. 3:16, 29: 6:14-16).
7. God will fulfill His promises to this Israel of God, (Galatians 3:29: 4:28: 6:14-16).
8. Thus God's promises to Israel have not been made of "no effect" even though some Jewish people don't believe in their own Messiah, (Romans 9:6-8).
There is no replacement theology here, no one is being replaced. Only those who are of the promise will be saved. One way into the Kingdom of God, through faith in Christ Jesus no matter who you are.
---Mark_V. on 9/22/11


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Trav, what jealousy, prophesy is fulfilled in only Jesus Christ. ---Mark_V. on 9/21/11

Admission is embarrassing but, hey it's over. We addressed it.

Isa 48:11 For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? I will not give my glory unto another.

12 Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called, I am he, I am the first, I also am the last.

Hosea 2:19
And I will betroth thee unto me for ever, yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgment, and in lovingkindness, and in mercies.
Hosea 2:20
I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness: and thou shalt know the LORD.
---Trav on 9/21/11


I find it odd that when you finally used Jesus name you used Hebrew. Do you speak Hebrew?
You cannot bait me to converse with you about your "witnesses". ---Mark_Eaton on 9/21/11

You speak Greek? Latin? You use it. I prefer the original.
If I call you "consecrated to the god mars", is that who you are? Mark.

Christ name means GOD Saves, he said in his name. As i know it. Ignorance is fine until you are not, consecrated to mars.

Bait? Call it what it is, fear. As you should. I do too. We shouldn't go against the prophets.
Personally you're not edifying to converse with so it's ok. Sheep, will Berean the 1/2 sentences (cryptic 2 u) pointing to confirming scriptures. Others won't.
---Trav on 9/21/11


U said using his meaningful Hebrew name is funny?
---Trav on 9/21/11

I find it odd that when you finally used Jesus name you used Hebrew. Do you speak Hebrew? Also, if you use the Hebrew name, which variant will you use? I have seen no less than six different variations of the name Yeshua.

What I also find odd is how you expect people to understand your cryptic half-sentence posts.

You cannot bait me to converse with you about your "witnesses". My witness is the Holy Spirit and He bears witness that I am a child of God.

Rom 8:16-17 "The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs - heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ..."
---Mark_Eaton on 9/21/11


Trav, what jealousy, prophesy is fulfilled in only Jesus Christ. And if you have another way into heaven other then through the blood of Jesus, then please provide it.
After healing a large number of people, Jesus Christ,
"warned them not to make Him known, that it might be fulfilled "which was spoken by Isaiah the Prophet," saying: Behold My Servant, whom I have chosen, My Beloved in whom My soul is well pleased! I will put My Spirit upon Him, and I will declare justice to the Gentiles. He will not quarrel nor cry out, nor will anyone hear His voice in the streets. A bruised reed He will not break, and smoking flax He will not quench, till He sends forth justice to victory" (Matt. 12:16-20).
---Mark_V. on 9/21/11


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the Spiritual Israel. Israel did not.
---Mark_V. on 9/21/11


Consider stepping away from the preacher or commentary who is entangling your scriptural understanding.

Jealousy of the former and bride to be of GOD, hinders most from acceptance of GOD being GOD.
His work,his words, his choice were for perfect reasons. Whether any approve or not. You are working hard, attaining no peace. Truth is a vacation, freedom in acceptance.
I accept my Lords will, trusting his mercy and power.

Ezekiel 16:60
Nevertheless I will remember my covenant with thee in the days of thy youth, and I will establish unto thee an everlasting covenant.
---Trav on 9/21/11


Trav 2: A young man named Joseph had dreams and went to Egypt (Gen. 37,39), Another Joseph had dreams and went to Egypt (Matt. 2)
God called Israel out of Egypt called the nation My son (Exodus 4:22), when Jesus came out of Egypt God said, Our of Egypt I called My Son (Matt. 2:15). When the Israelites passed through the Red Sea, the spent 40 years in the wilderness. Immediately after Jesus was baptized in the Jordan, He was led by the Spirit into the wilderness for 40 days (Matt. 4:1,2). Jesus was repeating the history of Israel. Christ was showing Himself to be the primary Israel, the prince of God, the victorious One, who overcame all sin, the Spiritual Israel. Israel did not.
---Mark_V. on 9/21/11


Funny, now you use His name .....

I am only exhorting you to think and learn outside your confort zone.

About His name. Funny you now want to use Hebrew.
---Mark_Eaton on 9/20/11

More humorous is you Exhorting. Comfort Zone. Ha. You have no witnesses to exhort/comfort with. Think too exhort with...hank half cup?
My Zone is secured by thousands of witnesses in scripture. Climb on outta the sand box and play.

U said using his meaningful Hebrew name is funny? Hmmmm.
Matt 18:20
For where two or three are gathered together in.... "my name", ....there am I in the midst of them.
---Trav on 9/21/11


Trav, you can call Jesus Christ whatever you desire, but under the New Covenant He is known as Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. And it doesn't matter anymore where you come from, Israel, Texas, Mexico, or any country or religion, if you stay in unbelief there is no salvation, for Salvation is found in One Hope, Jesus Christ, and in no other. It is by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ works on the cross, His sacrifice that is the only way. There is no other way, whether you are divorced nation, or not. All the passages you give from the Old Testament concerning Israel, is fulfilled in Christ Jesus, for He is the way, the Truth and the Life.
---Mark_V. on 9/21/11


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For what was spoken by the prophets is connected to Christ the Spiritual Israel.
---Mark_V. on 9/20/11

Sun and Moon. Make yours a lie.
Jer 31:35 Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day,the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar, LORD of hosts is his name:

36If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.

37Thus saith the LORD, If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.
---Trav on 9/20/11


First of all his name is YAHSHUA. So you will not see me throw it around unless its called on..."in his name".
---Trav on 9/19/11

Funny, now you use His name and you feel persecuted. Don't be so prideful. I am only exhorting you to think and learn outside your confort zone.

About His name. Funny you now want to use Hebrew. Okay, why not use the names of Yesha'yahu, Yirmiyahu, Chabaqquq, Mal'akhi, Nechemya, and Zekharyah when referring the prophets and refer to the Torah, Tanakh, and Brit Hadashah when discussing Scripture.
---Mark_Eaton on 9/20/11


Trav, in Hosea 1:11 what was spoken of Israel is fulfilled in Christ. And all the context their after.
"They shall walk afte the Lord, He will roar like a Lion. When He roars, Then His sons shall come trembling from the west" Though the Lord would, as a Lion, roar against Israle (Amos 1:2) He would also roar for the purpose of calling, protecting and blessing (Joel 3:16). All was fulfilled by Jesus Christ. Because there is only One Way, and that is through Jesus Christ. Most of what was spoken by the prophets is fulfilled by Christ. For what was spoken by the prophets is connected to Christ the Spiritual Israel. The True Seed of Abraham.
---Mark_V. on 9/20/11


Keep your cup of witnesses.

I want one full cup of Jesus.
There is no new covenant without Jesus.
You forget that in your discussions and you rarely mention His name.
---Mark_Eaton on 9/19/11

First of all his name is YAHSHUA. So you will not see me throw it around unless its called on..."in his name".

Second, you spitefully give me your free cup of witnesses.... Leaving you no confirmations.

Luke 24:44
And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
---Trav on 9/19/11


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Do you want a 1/2 cup of truth of hank, or a full cup of truth of GOD's witnesses?
---Trav on 9/19/11

Keep your cup of witnesses.

I want one full cup of Jesus.

There is no new covenant without Jesus. You forget that in your discussions and you rarely mention His name.

Jesus is the mediator of the new covenant, His blood was shed to make the new covenant, and without Him it is fruitless to discuss anything in the Bible, including OT Scripture which foretold of Him.

If you want to discuss Jesus, please proceed.
---Mark_Eaton on 9/19/11


I will say, ditto on yourself.

Rarely do I see you engage on subjects of the NT. You seem to like and engage only on OT Israel. ---Mark_Eaton on 9/14/11

In regards to ditto on myself. Engage me on New Covenant Testament.

New Covenant is foretold by the Old Covenant Prophets. GOD spoke of the New Covenant.
I ask for doctrinal support by Prophets of the Old.
Churches of today teach New Testament....but, not New Covenant. Ever think it strange they avoid scriptures?? Is this complete truth avoiding scriptures? Question is, why? How dangersous is it to go against the Prophets Christ carefully fullfilled all words of?
Do you want a 1/2 cup of truth of hank, or a full cup of truth of GOD's witnesses?
---Trav on 9/19/11


Trav,
Hosea 11:1 does not support your view.
---Mark_V. on 9/17/11

Hosea (1:11) was used not 11:1. Verse Ten below for icing.

10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered, it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.

11Then shall the children of Judah and children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel.

Heb 8:8/Jer 31:31
You knowingly go against the prophets?
Ignorance only protects until one is not.
---Trav on 9/19/11


Trav, sorry but your two witnesses do not support your view of Israel.
Under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, Mattew wrote that Joseph, Mary, and Jesus remained in Egypt "until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet saying, "Out of Egypt have I called My Son" (v.15). Matthew is quoting Hosea 11:1 which, in it hstorical context, referred to the nation of Israel being called out of Egypt in the time of Moses. Yet here the very first Gospel writer picks up this text and declares it "fulfilled in Jesus Christ" Hosea 11:1 does not support your view. If you had studied the New T. you would know what was spoken of Israel is fulfilled in Jesus Christ?
---Mark_V. on 9/17/11


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Trav, Hebrew 8:8 and Eze. 16:60, is true, He did make a covenant to Israel, they rejected it. ---Mark_V. on 9/16/11

Is amazing that All Israel confided to you their rejection. Especially since you don't recognize "All" Israel.

You admit scripture is true and use opinion for proof.
A Jury of 12 loves a good story, but witnesses, free the defendant.
Hosea 1:11 Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel.

Hosea 2:19
I will betroth thee unto me for ever, yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgment, and in lovingkindness, and in mercies.
---Trav on 9/16/11


Trav, Hebrew 8:8 and Eze. 16:60, is true, He did make a covenant to Israel, they rejected it. The only way individuals from Israel, or any other country can be saved is "If" they do not continue in unbelief. Paul declared concerning the Israel, "And they also (individual Jewish people) if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again" There is that word "If." Salvation is for all who believe by faith in Christ and His works on the Cross because only through His blood can anyone be save, no matter from what country or race you are from. The Covenant is there if they only believe. How many from any country will be saved, only God knows.
---Mark_V. on 9/16/11


..... physical Israel has past away. Maybe that's why Hank does not talk about Israel. You should ask him.
---Mark_V. on 9/15/11

GOD is expansive enough to invite who he will. Ignoring and hating the stated, does not make it not so.
Get your answers from Hindergraft, i'll get mine from Christ.
Matt 23:8
But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ, and all ye are brethren.

Heb 8:8
For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

Eze 16:60
Nevertheless I will remember my covenant with thee in the days of thy youth, and I will establish unto thee an everlasting covenant.
---Trav on 9/15/11


Trav, the hankyman you mention knows Scripture. I don't see you out there proclaiming salvation available to those who believe? You think because God chose Israel first, they only get salvation, but it was the beginning of history that started with them, but they rejected Christ. That covenant went out to everyone after their rejection, and most of what was talked about Israel has been fulfilled by Christ, the physical Israel has past away. From now on, it's all who receive Christ by faith, become the spiritual Israel of Christ. They are all who believe by faith only, no matter from what nation, race or religion. Only one way into the kingdom, through Christ Jesus. Maybe that's why Hank does not talk about Israel. You should ask him.
---Mark_V. on 9/15/11


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Preterism: the theory that future prophecies were nullified by the "fulfillment" (their word) of Matt 24:34 In other words, preterists say 70 AD fulfilled everything. If that's the case, what about present day Israel back in the land. If Preterism is true, what do they do with things that haven't happened yet?
Acts 1:11 - Romans 11:12 - Romans 11:23,24,25 -
II Thess. 2:3,4 -(Compare with Dan. 11)

II Thess. 2:8
Jude verses 14 and 15a
"Have/Did these things happen before 70 AD?"

Deut. 30:1,2a -Ezek. 37:1-10, 12, 21, 22, 23 47:9,10- Daniel 9:27-Joel 3:2- 3:15, 16- Amos 9:15- Zech. 14:4a- (Compare that with Acts 1:11 -Zech. 14:8- (Compare Ezek. 47:9,10.)
Zech. 14:9- etc
---michael_e on 9/15/11


Maybe I also notice that when Trav answers it concerns Israel.
---Mark_V. on 9/14/11

Maybe that is why you kneel under hanke-man, he rejects the sheep.

An answerman would have all the answers. He obviously doesn't.
He establishes nothing about Israel. Understanding less than an answer man you'd think would.
Disregarding the fact that the scripture was them. Written by them, too them and for them. To all that see and hear benefit.
You are correct in that i link Israel to scripture. Whether I am or not does not make any difference to the content, but it does make a difference to understanding of.
Redesigning the scriptures denominationally is climbing in another way.
---Trav on 9/15/11


Mark E, I agree with you on Hank. He is a godly righteous man who has taught me a lot. When I was saved I heard him many times. I ask for material and they sent it free. The doctrines of the Trinity, and also got the book, "The Kingdom of the Cults" by Walter Martin and Hank Hanegraaff.
It spoke of many cults and gave a lot of information concerning what they teach. Maybe Trav denomination or church was mentioned and that is why he doesn't like him? I also notice that when Trav answers it concerns Israel. He will give scripture from the New Testament but only if it concerns Israel. He makes sure to remind us that Jesus came for Israel, never anyone else. Something there I believe.
---Mark_V. on 9/14/11


He does not support scripture just the parts he likes... The ones you've purchased....Hank is not hard to know. I don't have to touch him.
---Trav on 9/14/11

I will say, ditto on yourself.

Rarely do I see you engage on subjects of the NT. You seem to like and engage only on OT Israel.

I have never and will not ever buy literature from any radio, TV, or internet preacher/teacher.

Hank has preached in my church and at several conferences in my area. I met him personally during one of those conferences and that is my only involvement with him.
---Mark_Eaton on 9/14/11


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I have personally met Hank and can for a fact say that you are totally wrong about Hank and your opinions only come from afar.
---Mark_Eaton on 9/13/11

Hank is a man. Hank is not "The" or "A" Bible answer man. He does not support scripture just the parts he likes.

He is a man. He does have answers, a variety he merchandises.
The ones you've purchased.
When he presumed he was the "Answer"....that is where he stopped.
Hank is not hard to know. I don't have to touch him. His avoidance and butchery of scripture speaks loudly. Used to listen to him daily until it made me want to puke....what he doesn't know...as an answer man.
Prov 1:29
For that they hated knowledge, and...
---Trav on 9/14/11


Hank's pride calling himself an answer man has limited his own work.
---Trav on 9/13/11

I have personally met Hank and can for a fact say that you are totally wrong about Hank and your opinions only come from afar.

Hank is a very humble individual who has spent many decades studying the Scriptures. However, like everyone, Hank has his own opinions but can and does support his opinions with Scripture. Hank is also a respected apologetic and defender of the "one Faith" of Eph 4.
---Mark_Eaton on 9/13/11


Where did Hank Hennegraff get the scripture to come to be a Preterist?
-----Blog Question

Hank's pride calling himself an answer man has limited his own work.
He used to expose the Benny type devils etc, for the liars they are.
Now he merchandises scripture. By his own books and self promoting puffy's book he can find. He has his own version of the Bible.

He is blinded by his own brilliance. It appears he has become a money grubber.
He talks a good game but, is dangerous individual to put in between scripture and truth.
Psalm 144:11
Rid me, and deliver me from the hand of strange children, whose mouth speaketh vanity, and their right hand is a right hand of falsehood:
---Trav on 9/13/11


Praise the Lord and happy world without end Brother.
---Robin_Elliott on 9/13/11


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Pharisee: "Maybe he was having a bad week [day] when I tuned in? Who can tell.[?]"

Maybe so! :D We all have come short of the glory of God (Ro. 3:23) & like John Mark, etc., may need to get another chance to prove ourselves in God's kingdom. (Acts 12:25, 13:13, 15:37-40, 2 Tim. 4:11).

Be blessed this day & always. :)
---Leon on 4/28/08


Thank you, Samuel . . . my post down below is wrong > preterition is the Calvinist idea of God passing over those not predestined.

While preterist has to do with believing that prophesied Bible events have already taken place. And a "partial" preterist may believe that prophesied things won't happen *in history*, but are representative of what will happen *spiritually*...for example, believing the Millennial kingdom is spiritual and won't be historical.
---Bill_bila5659 on 4/28/08


Samuel, okay, thanks.
---SusieQ on 4/28/08


Not sure? Hank is right on many things except this partial preterist view of scripture. Unfortunately the full preterist is pushing a NON christian view and it is dangerous and cult like.
---Pastor_Bill on 4/28/08


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A preterist is a view of aplolytic scripture. That the events are past and not future. For instance the book of Revelation is not future but refers to persecution by Rome alone and there is no future anitichrist single figure.
---Samuel on 4/28/08


Leon I'll take your word for it.

I can't say his show is for me, I tried it out in 2002 and told what happened here, and haven't listened since.

Maybe he was having a bad week when I tuned in? Who can tell.

All I know is that I won't trust him or anything he says.
---pharisee on 4/28/08


Pharisee: You sound like someone who misunderstood or may've bumped heads with Hank on the radio. :)

You say he's proud (arrogant). I certainly don't see that. To the contrary, he's no nonsense in his teaching & defense of biblical truth. Hank's ministry equips Believers to accurately know Bible truth so we can stand against the wiles of the devil...errors of presumptuous (proud) false prophets (workers of iniquity) i.e., cults, word of faith teachers, etc.
---Leon on 4/28/08


No Leon, not once.
---pharisee on 4/27/08


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Pharisee: Have you ever spoken to Hank?
---Leon on 4/27/08


I am not quite sure what a preterist is or does.
---SusieQ on 4/27/08


"you would not be saying what you say about Hank."

I understand that knowledge is not wisdom, I also understand that knowledge and zeal are no replacement.

I can't believe you don't see the "everyone listen to me and no one else" pride thing he's got going on, it drives him to persecute ministries, I'm not saying it's never needed, but the service he provides walks a fine line that he's not very careful to observe.
---pharisee on 4/27/08


"It would be unthinkable that a God of infinite wisdom and power could create a world without a definite plan for that world"

YES !!!

Why should that Plan not be that men should have free-will?
---alan_of_UK on 4/27/08


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If God has planned ss Mark says, all th evil that men do, and that man does, will be done in accordance with God's will.
The wicked will have done God's will ... so why punish them?
---alan_of_UK on 4/27/08


I'm certain Mark will expect me to come in here, even though he won't answer me.
So here goes:
The God he describes did not make people ... He made a machine, with person-shaped cogs, most of which were deliberately made faulty.
---alan_of_UK on 4/27/08


Who cares what Hank Hennegraff wants to become.
I think he's out in left field. Following men's teachings will get you into scriptural trouble. They'll turn you in the wrong direction. Some days I wonder if reading so many false interpretations is safe for anyone. Guilty or on the way to becoming unstable by association.
---Mark_V. on 4/27/08


#3. and that He cannot be surprised by any unforeseen inconveniences. So before you start knocking down Hank, you should read your Bibles to be approve. You are walking on thin ice for the Ecumenical trend is on the move in many denominations now, all have gone away from the truth and are now teaching a "men centered theology". Revelations 17 have a discussion of this whole movement, "The mystery Babylon the Great, the Mother of harlots and abomination of the earth"
---Mark_V. on 4/27/08


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We are told that Christ was "foreknowon indeed (as a sacrifice for sin) before the foundation of the world" 1 Peter 1:20, which means before anyone or anything was created. The plan of redemption is traced back into eternity, and the plan to permit man to fall into the sin from which he was thus to be redeemed must also extend back into eternity, otherwise there would have been occassion for redemption. Please read your Bibles, but read from God's perspective not man's.
---Mark_V. on 4/27/08


#2. It would be unthinkable that a God of infinite wisdom and power could create a world without a definite plan for that world. And because God is thus infinite His plan must extend to every detail of the world's existence, for if it does not then He is not sovereign, if not sovereign, not God. If God had not foreordained the course of events but waited until some undetermined condition was or was not fulfilled, His decrees could be neither eternal nor immutable. But we know He is incapable of mistakes,
---Mark_V. on 4/27/08


If most of you understood anything about the God of the Bible you would not be saying what you say about Hank. This is God's plan, not ours. We are to evangelize because, 1 We are commanded to, 2. We do not know who are the elect, 3. Because salvation comes to all the same way. It's God's plan. Hank is a man of God and if most of you were not stuck in your "men centered theology" you would understand the Word of God for what it is.
---Mark_V. on 4/27/08


What I like about Mr. Hannegraff is he always ask everyone to check what he says in light of Scripture. How many of us CN bloggers do that? I don't agree with everything Hank says. That's probably because my level of understanding isn't always on par with his. But, I do agree with him on the essentials of Bible salvation in Jesus Christ. Also, Hank has done very well by exposing many false-teachers. I've never know him to be discourteous or rude to any caller. Has anyone here ever called Hank? :)
---Leon on 4/26/08


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Thanks KarenD, that was me.
My errant fingers pressed the send button too soon!
---alan_of_UK on 4/25/08


If predestination is a fact, why would Jesus need to die? And, I agree with the person who asked Mima why he bothers to got out witnessing if predestination is a fact.
---KarenD on 4/25/08


Ryan there's a whole other side to the Hannegraff foolishness.

He speaks out against other preachers.
In many cases he may be right, but there's the off chance (and it's a good one) that he's spoken evil against a fellow minister who was indeed operating in the Holy Spirit.
Right- blasphemy of the Holy Ghost.

Somebody called in to refute hank's claim that forgiveness was optional, the man was hung up on after being yelled at.
Hannegraff's pride is only bested by his blindness.
---pharisee on 4/25/08


a . . . I don't buy "preterist" which means God passes over ones not predestined. But I do believe in predestinaton, and that predestination of a Christian includes doing all I can to lovingly bless ALL people. Paul clearly shares > "For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of

all men,

especially of those who believe." (1 Timothy 4:10) So - - we, like our Father, do all we can to love ALL people.
---Bill_bila5659 on 4/25/08


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I am ignorant of all the beliefs of this group. But it is my understanding that Hank, pretty much believes what they believe. I'm now 10 years retired. And I used to hear Hank over 640 Memphis radio every day. I have not heard Hank in 10 years.
---Mima on 4/25/08


Mima ... if you accept all that group beleives, why do you go out and evangelise?
---a on 4/25/08


preterist . . . means one who believes God passes over those not destined for salvation? Well, Jesus *prayed*, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do", in Luke 23:34...so forgiving people while they were still busy hating and torturing and murdering Jesus. In His heart, Jesus on Calvary desired for us to become forgiven. So, in His heart, He already forgave us, way back then before we sinned (o: So, we follow His example (Ephesians 4:31-5:2).
---Bill_bila5659 on 4/24/08


Pharisee, I absolutely agree with you. Hank is as holy as the Pharisees and Saudecees. He is a self-promoting liar.
---Ryan_Z on 4/24/08


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You should not listen to this man's show.

He actually told a caller that he didn't need to forgive unless the person who sinned against him repented.

This is a direct quote from a show in 2002, I never tuned in again because it's obvious that the man is not operating in the Spirit of Truth. If it were so he'd not of been led to misinterpret scripture so gravely.
---pharisee on 4/24/08


I do not know the answer to your question. However, I spent much time listening and studying Hank Hennegraff. If you put this in your search window.
"Pensacola Orthodox Preterist Baptist Assembly "you can easily see what he believes.
I have not found him wrong in any teaching.
---Mima on 4/24/08


he got from God of course why is this even a question
---keyblade on 4/24/08


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