Jesus Only Way To Heaven
John 10:9 "I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture." This verse, and this verse alone is ample proof that any effort to be saved and reach heaven except by the Lord Jesus Christ is pure folly! Comment?
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---Mima on 4/28/08
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I know I am off the subject. I mean I know and understand that. If you knew that the living God was watching you while you are out there would you do 2/3 of the stuff that you do? Would you do these rotten things, beating people on their heads, if you knew that the living, true, God was watching you. Why, you would have to be a fool. Now, isn't that the truth. No fear of God no regard for man. My God is a God, a just God, and He loves justice. Stop the abuse of my people. |
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---catherine on 5/1/08 |
He is the Only Way.
If you don't spend any time with Him, you don't know Him.
Jesus heals, then He corrects. When He corrects, you go and sin no more because you don't want to. You want to stay close to Jesus because He is the Only Way that you will ever see God. |
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---Ulrika on 4/30/08 |
Jesus is our FOUNDATION, but having His spirit in our heart and mind (2 Corinthians 1:22 and 5:5, Ephesians 1:14, Romans 12:2) is the guarantee (hardly ever taught in traditional Christianity) of having what Jesus has to offer. Jesus did not just become the sacrifice for our sins, He also left God's eternal spirit for us to learn GODLINESS. We must learn (and live) a clear division between right and wrong/evil so that the change from good to evil is abrupt/sudden (James 1:17) with no middle ground. |
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---greg on 4/30/08 |
"Living water" (John 7:38, Revelation 7:16) baptism in our hearts is not what John the Baptist had to offer, but the "rivers" that also flowed from Christ's side genuinely make us the NEW CREATION that Jesus wants.
Scripture is a collection of what God said long ago, but the true Body Of Christ shall live by every word that PRESENTLY proceeds from His mouth to each one of us in our own lives, and to those outside the true Body, their chosen truth is in PARABLES (Mark 4:11). |
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---greg on 4/30/08 |
God was very gracious to humanity in CREATION (His first act/gift of grace to humanity). He was also very gracious in sending His son. And leaving His spirit for us to learn from was also very gracious of Him.
Mankind has always taken God's three acts of grace and replaced them with it's own teachings and efforts (the teachings of the SIXTH day creation...666). The spirit of 666 (the babylon of the heart) was always comfortably/conveniently believed to be only a FUTURE concern. |
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---greg on 4/30/08 |
JESUS compared our dedication to Him as a total death to self.
Luk 9:23 And he said to [them] all, If any [man] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. |
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---Samuel on 4/30/08 |
The STRONG delusion is one of humanity's own choosing (because of our rejection of truth/Lord, John 14:6).
Aside from His three gracious gifts, "God is ONE" (Galatians 3:20) and the "WHOLE" fullness of God is in JESUS (Colossians 2:9), no matter how scholars/anyone would like to argue this with intellectual rhetoric.
Ezekiel 14:4-8 (the KJV correctly translates the word "according") shows that the DOCTRINES OF THE HEART have caused us to accept the delusion. |
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---greg on 4/30/08 |
M y pastor and the Bible teach in his sermoms that the only way to enter Heaven is you must be saved thru the Blood and the recieveing of Jesus Christ as lord and Savio |
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---lawre3763 on 4/30/08 |
Jesus did not come to bring 'peace of mind' so that everyone could continue doing whatever they wish (Luke 12:51), He came to cause a division in our minds between good and evil/wrong.
Christianity has always been taught TEXTUALLY, not SPIRITUALLY, and in a very partisan manner (Philippians 1:17) so that it is 'convenient' to attract membership in churches (money) and allow for a carefree lifestyle. |
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---greg on 4/30/08 |
In "the last days" (Acts 2:17), we need to learn a "MORE EXCELLENT WAY" (1 Corinthians 12:31) and "the GREATEST of these" (1 Corinthians 13:13).
Spiritual faith should be borne out of LOVE (I have faith in the laws of physics, but I don't love them). True Christianity is not a faith, it is a LOVE (God is LOVE). |
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---greg on 4/30/08 |
Everyone was given their own measure of faith (Romans 12:3) and that "faith" is between yourself and God (Romans 14:22) so that God may be EVERYTHING to you (1 Corinthians 15:28)...IF you make the PERSONAL choice for intimacy with God (instead of 'COMMANDS/SIN/LAW/TEXT/FAITH' and pastors, scholars, commentaries, etc.
The GODLY Christian should "WALK BY THE SPIRIT", not faith (Galatians 5:16 and 25). |
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---greg on 4/30/08 |
If we show partiality to the brethren in Christ (special treatment), we sin (and they should not request special treatment/favoritism, James 2:1 and 2:9). THEY ALSO should "live quietly" not bothering anyone (1 Thessalonians 4:11).
Our personal relationship with JESUS must be nurtured (the brethren didn't die on the cross, neither did the pastors or the bible).
The Lord wants to have a personal relationship with us (the REAL us). He "yearns jealously" (James 4:5). |
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---greg on 4/30/08 |
Being dedicated to knowing, understanding and communicating truth (objective truth) is more important for the Christian than is realized (2 Thessalonians 2:10, "AND SO BE SAVED").
God is the truth of ALL reality (the universe).
It is mankind's 'lack of dedication to truth' that has always caused the "STRONG delusion", but also it is man's insistence on continuing to do whatever is comfortable regardless of merit. |
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---greg on 4/30/08 |
Christina.
Clarification-The topic statement-,"any effort to be saved and reach heaven (except)by Jesus is folly."
My previous post indicates many many ascended prior to Jesus's life on earth.
Many believe in no resurection until after Jesus's time lived on earth. |
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---earl on 4/30/08 |
Hebrews chapter 6 also explains that JESUS is our foundation for eternal life (our ONLY foundation) and that we should not try to replace that foundation with our own efforts (works/deeds and intellectual/scholarly accomplishment), for if we do that, repentance IN CHRIST becomes impossible.
At the final judgement, Jesus will not be unjust and overlook that apostasy. We must move on to a more intimate and truly personal relationship with Jesus (grow spiritually). |
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---greg on 4/30/08 |
Earl, you wrote of those who "lived pre Jesus era..." and how they were not deprived of heaven. Everyone one of them knew the Lord and looked forward to the coming of Christ. Just 1 reference:
John 8:56
Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day, he saw it and was glad."
Also no one lived pre Jesus since He WAS from the beginning and through Him all things were made |
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---Christina on 4/29/08 |
Yes, Jesus draws us to himself because he loves us and wants us with him forever! |
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---SusieQ on 4/29/08 |
The scribes were merely hirelings [hired people] who had no true love and concern for the welfare of the sheep. In the moment of danger the hireling runs away. >>>THE Pharisees are strangers, but Christ knows His sheep. The Pharisees have no love for the sheep, but Christ gives His life for them. Christ has a relationship to the sheep similar to His relationship with His Father, only it will hightened a whole lot when we get to heaven. Christ now states that His fold will include both Jews and Gentiles. |
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---catherine on 4/29/08 |
Moses Didn't Ascend with a Live body as Elijah & Enoch Did!
Moses Died he was Buried, Then Satan & Michael Fought over his Body, Satan wanted it in Hell & Michael wasn't having it!
This wasn't a tug of War W/1 arm in Michael hands & the other in Satans, Like alot of people think.
Satan Disputes W/God Everyday, Like he did W/Job, Michael stands between him & God.
AS we all know, Michael Won! |
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---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 4/29/08 |
You have stated the truth. It is clear and simple. Noone goes to heaven without knowing the Lord Jesus and believing Him to be the son of God and propitiation for our sins as well as resurected and in charge:) We know that He is fully God because he tells us so in the Bible. He was from the beginning and made all things. His Spirit (also God from the beginning) is alive and in believers. |
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---jody on 4/29/08 |
Comment.
Abraham was found to be righteous.
Enoch ascended.
Moses ascended.
Elijah ascended.
Those who lived pre Jesus era was not deprived of heaven.
Jesus presented a newer, comprehensive,revealing revelation of his Father.
John,in his visions, saw a multitude of ascended beings who already overcome the beast.
Jesus revealed a greater personal God and by doing so revealed the continuing existance and revelation of God-I am the way-the passage doors to heaven. |
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---earl on 4/29/08 |
Mima ... that is already accepted by us Christians.
But it can't be regarded as ample proof for the non-Christian becasue he will not recognise the authority of this teacher guy Jesus some 2000 years ago. |
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---alan_of_UK on 4/28/08 |
mima ,yes but a better one is IAM THE WAY THE TRUTH THE LIFE NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER BUT BY ME. |
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---tom2 on 4/28/08 |
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