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Greater Works Than Jesus

Jesus said, "he who believes in Me...greater works than these he will do," in John 14:12. Jesus raised the dead. Does He mean we will do works greater than raising the dead? What works are greater, that we do?

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As I look back at all the past events of my life the last 50 years I noted that everyone of the worst possible events that had occurred in my life had next also undeniably the biggest blessings in my life when I had turned it all to Jesus."
---Paul on 10/5/10

Mima, I have to agree with you and the Mod. Even though God saves by grace through faith, it is the servents of Christ who bring the gospel Truth so that God's grace an mercy can be bistow by His Word. Christ had to leave and if He had stayed, He was one person saving others but through the ministry of the Holy Spirit in the believers, God's used His millions of children to bring the gospel to millions more. Salvation of a soul is the miracle. All other miracles are temporary, Salvation is eternal.
---Mark_V. on 9/20/08

mima: "If a person understands what being saved means that person would realize that one person coming to Christ is a miracle!!"

A person becoming a Christian is by the grace of God - not a miracle.
---Steveng on 9/19/08

Steveng said,"Winning millions to Christ is not a miracle."
If a person understands what being saved means that person would realize that one person coming to Christ is a miracle!!
When a person thinks salvation come from baptism, or communion, or a ritual of some kind then naturally their have no concept of what being saved means. Jesus said," ye must be born again". And he is talking about a spiritual rebirth which can never be arrived at by following laws or regulations or traditions.
---mima on 9/19/08

mima: "Moderator is correct."

The moderator sometimes doesn't know what he is talking about.

Winning millions to Christ is not a miracle. What does telling that mountain to jump into the sea to do with winning souls? Nothing really unless, of course, it is to prove that God did it (and not person who performed the miracle) so that millions can be won to Christ.

Why did Jesus turn water into wine? Tamed wild weather? (To prove to the apostles who Jesus claims who He is)
---Steveng on 9/17/08

James, Jesus said it while he was alive, because his earthly ministry was over. He had finished his mission (for the time being). When he rose again, that was a new period or new mission or new age in the life of the Church.
---frances008 on 9/8/08

Moderator is correct.
Jesus meant exactly what he said. When Jesus raised a person from the dead, that person went on to live their life then die lost or saved. When we deliver the message of how a person can be saved(eternally saved) and that person receives the Lord Jesus Christ as their personal savior. You have just done a greater work that had you raised him from the dead.
---Mima on 5/29/08
---mima on 9/7/08

cindi, Jesus had not been killed yet in John 17 where Jesus said He had been sanctified (born again) so that we MAY also become sanctified. Jesus also said His work was over before He had been killed. Can you reply to this?
---james on 6/7/08

Nicole: Read John Chapter Three, the whole chapter, but in particular verses one through ten. Nicodemus - an educated man and one of Israel's teachers - should have known what Jesus was speaking about because it is revealed in the Old Testament. This event occured before Pentecost.
---Steveng on 6/4/08

Well, "Abraham believed God and it was accounted to him for righteousness" (in Galatians 3:6). Abraham's faith was saving faith, Paul seems to be saying (Galatians 3:5-7). And Jesus said Zacchaeus had salvation come to his house, before Jesus died (Luke 19:9-10). So, I can see Jesus' death had an *eternal* effect, not limited to time after His death. But this could be considered a heresy, even given a name if it is against Catholic teachings. Emcee?
---Bill_bila5659 on 6/4/08

Yes, Jesus forgave sins. That is not the question. We also can tell someone that if they confess Jesus as Lord and believe that GOd raised him from the dead, they will be saved. But Christians were called Christians because they said they had "Christ IN" them. That did not become available until He died and God sent the Comforter (the holy spirit) to dwell in man. Being born again, comes from Romans 10:9, you can't do that unless Christ was dead.
---Cindi on 6/4/08

Cindi-Jesus said in Matthew,Mark and Luke "Thy sins are forgiven" when the scribes questioned Him,"What is easier to say, thy sins are foreven or rise and walk? But that you may know that the Son of man has power on earth to forgive sins."That sounds like salvation, forgiveness of sin. It was finished through the Cross and the Resurrection.
---melann on 6/4/08

Jesus was speaking of the future. It was not possible to be 'born again' and have Christ IN you until he had died.
---Cindi on 6/3/08

Cindi ::I believe you are mistaken because Jesus had that conversation in Jn3:3 with Nicademus before he died.
---Emcee on 6/3/08

it was not available to be born again until Christ had DIED. No one before Pentecost in Acts chapter ever got 'born again'. That is what Jesus Christ came to make available to the world. If we could get born again before he died, then he would not have had to die at all.
---Cindi on 6/3/08

So true Ken, God's love can be found in the old testament, just as God's wrath can be found in the new testament (Acts 5- Annanias and Sapphira, Revelation)
---Todd1 on 6/2/08

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Do any of you ever read the "Old Testament"?
Forgiveness from God did'nt begin in the "New Testament". He has always shown mercy and forgivness from the beginning.
---Ken on 6/2/08

Perhaps these words are for the 144,000 who are sealed before the tribulation starts and also the 2 witnesses.
---james on 6/2/08

John 14:12He that believes on me, the works that I do he shall do also and greater works than these will he do. Greater works as in more of what Jesus did while He was here because He was leaving to go to His Father. Jesus forgave sins in the NT before He was crucified. They believed on Him and were saved(born again)
---melann on 6/2/08

You unbelieving generation.

Making all kinds of excuses why Christians can't. Greater works than Jesus says just what it means. We are able to tell that mountain to jump into the sea. Bring the dead to life. Heal the sick. Calm the weather. Turn water into wine. But why can't today's Christians do it? Lack of faith. Ask God for anything and he will give, but if our faith is weak we cannot believe we can do it. The apostles did it and so can you. ALL things are possible for the one who believes.
---Steveng on 6/1/08

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And you call yourself Christians.

You're weak. Making all kinds of excuses why you can't perform greater miracles than Jesus but the truth.

The apostles asked, "Why couldn't we cast it (the demons) out?" He told them, "This kind can come out only by prayer." Read about it at Mark 9:14-29

Oh, yea, read about the mountain at Mark 11:20-25

Oh, you faithless generation.
---Steveng on 6/1/08

bill, for some reason, I can never figure out it is that you're trying to say.
---jpmiller on 6/1/08

These day's I find it very difficult to believe in those that profess to have this ability. I believe that miracles happen within the body of Christ to the people that are not interested in the Glory and work by faith every day healing with out publicising it through prayer laying of hands and speaking it. They are rare but exist.
---Carla5754 on 6/1/08

I prayed for a college professor whom had incurable aids, and when he went to his doctor for his treatment, the doctor said it is a miracle that he was completely cured and that there was no trace of aids at all in his whole body. You see, we are God's family, Jesus is our Father God and we born-again are his children, and WITH GOD NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE. He promises that if you have the right faith you can say to a mountain, Be removed and thrown into the sea, and it will be done for us.
---Eloy on 5/30/08

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:o) I thought this would be a simple informative answer blog. I wasn't expecting a debate.

Shawn, you refer to Genesis 1:28. Here, God says, "Be fruitful and multiply, fill the earth and subdue it, have dominion...." What do you understand this means, NOW, concerning the "greater works" that Jesus means we will do, please?

By the way, wouldn't dominion over creatures include our working along with how God gives them increase? Likewise, we do works along with Him saving.
---Bill_bila5659 on 5/30/08

Nadine . . . I just looked up "greater" in my Strong's Greek dictionary. Apparently it can have more than one meaning, including how we see in John 15:13 > "'Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends.'" Ah-HAH > such love would be greater in QUALITY, being God's love versus man's love, so greater CAN mean of better quality of LOVE, as well as greater quality of a work.
---Bill_bila5659 on 5/30/08

The moderator is absolutely correct. Nadine, God's word says just what He meant it to say. Jesus could not get someone born again because he had to die first to make that available. Raising someone from spiritual death is a far greater work than raising them from mortal death. We can get someone born again and give them eternal life, Jesus could not.
---cindi on 5/30/08

The words and works of Christ surely must indicate a unique relationship between the Father and the Son.>>>The Moderator is right, on this.>>> As the works of Christ were limited to a small geographical area and to a specific people. The disciples works would be worldwide in their reach and would affect all people. In this way, they were greater. Christ in going away would cause Him to send the Holy Spirit.
---catherine on 5/30/08

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I say "the greater works than these" is to finally fulfill God's first blessing on man (Gen.1:28). Many people think that he is referring to the saving of souls but that work is for God. We plant & water but it is only God that gives the increase (1Cor.3:4-7).
---Shawn.M.T on 5/29/08

If we did greater works then Jesus ( quality) then we would see ourselves as little gods. This is exactly what WOF and many misled charismatics believe anyway, wanting to raise people from the dead...etc, believing they have that power within themselves as a little god to do so.

This too is anti-christ.
---kathr4453 on 5/29/08

Think about it. We are the body of Christ both individually and collectively, one body. Jesus walked this earth as a single individual, as such limited in time and space. However when He returned to the Father He sent His Spirit, which now inhabits multiplied millions of individuals, with each believer going about the work of spreading the Gospel of salvation, and thereby reaching billions of other individuals. Thus as Nadine has said, the works we do are greater in quantity, not quality.
---Josef on 5/29/08

Moderator is correct.
Jesus meant exactly what he said. When Jesus raised a person from the dead, that person went on to live their life then die lost or saved. When we deliver the message of how a person can be saved(eternally saved) and that person receives the Lord Jesus Christ as their personal savior. You have just done a greater work that had you raised him from the dead.
---Mima on 5/29/08

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No, Christ doesn't mean that we will do works that are greater in QUALITY than those that He performed.. What He means is that we will have the opportunity to do a greater (larger) QUANTITY of good works than He did.
---Nadine on 5/28/08

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