Is Salvation Maintained
The Assemblies of God teach that salvation is by grace thru faith in Christ initially, but then is maintained by a life of faithfulness and continuing to believe in Christ. This is self-righteousness or works?
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---Mima on 6/12/08
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It is grace, there is no self righteousness..we are all sinners. It starts with hearing the word which leads to faith, faith leads to repentence, the repentence to salvation, and because we are then freed from the law and live under grace we are now complient and obedient to the commands of god. And, we are to endure to the finish with our faith in christ and hope of salvation to the finish. |
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---wal_rev on 10/21/08 |
God tells how to get to Heaven. It is a process, the process of growing holy as a child of God, which is called sanctification. Who knows how long this process takes? We are suppose to endure and don't just endure for a day but for a lifetime. Eagerly waiting isn't just waiting for tomorrow but waitng for the tomorrow of our tomorrows. |
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---sean on 6/17/08 |
Isaiah 64:6 says ".....and all our righteousness are like filthy rags..." Yes, before accept Christ and even after we accept Christ if we are acting as before we had Him again.The things we do after we accept Him should be His righteousness. We should be doing the things He assigns or "imputes" us to do. These assignments are His works not ours but we must allow ourselves to be stewards though. |
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---sean on 6/17/08 |
There is nothing necessary, or possible for us to do to save ourselves. But there is a lot we can do that will condemn ourselves. No outside force can pluck us from God, but we can push our own self-destruct button by not obeying the Word of God. |
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---frances008 on 6/16/08 |
Salvation is a gift but it isn't at no charge or "free" as some people call it. Self righteousness is when we think we can do it on our own and give God no glory for our works. Works that are truly under the influence of God are one of the three things we need for salvation. Faith, works and patience is what gives us salvation. Yes, I did say "is" what and not "are" what gives us salvation because they are all one. You could kinda say they are the witnesses also. |
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---sean on 6/16/08 |
---Mayday, post like this, straightforward, biblically sound, utterly true, are very upsetting to some on this blog. Kindly water your message down please!!!! |
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---Mima on 6/14/08 |
But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God, From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. Hebrews 10
We are born again into Christ. Once you are born your parent is always your parent. |
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---Mayday on 6/13/08 |
Salvation first, when you give your life to Christ.
Sanctification next, as you grow closer to Him day by day, always desiring to walk as He walked.
Glorification last, when you are either translated at His coming, as Enoch and Elijah were translated, or resurrected at His coming, as Moses and some of the saints around Jerusalem were.
Then we enjoy eternal happiness forever, immortal, incorruptable.
I dont think continuing to believe in Christ is "righteousness by works" |
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---Todd1 on 6/12/08 |
It is Bible. There are many scriptures which speak of falling away from the gospel and how hard it is to get back once a person has walked away. If salvation was something that a person gets once and can never walk away from, then there is no free will. As far as the "works" part of your question, "Faith without works is dead." We work for the Lord because we believe HE is coming soon and people need to know. |
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---SusieB on 6/12/08 |
I won't assume I understand an Assemblies of God doctrine, especially without knowing all the others they teach, to see what it means in the overall context.
"for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure." (Philippians 2:13) So, for one thing, God is the One who maintains my salvation, while *He* "works" me "to will" what He wants. All willing, then, is to be initiated in personal relating with Him (o: |
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---Bill_bila5659 on 6/12/08 |
"To this end I also labor, striving according to His working which works in me mightily." (Colossians 1:29) So, Paul worked according to how God in Him was working. So, whether our salvation depends on works or not, still the works we do must be what God in us "works" (Philippians 2:13) for us "to will and to do for His good pleasure."
So, I'd say, our attention should not be to the works, but to how God is personally inspiring and leading us, at every moment (o: |
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---Bill_bila5659 on 6/12/08 |
"Trust in the LORD with all your heart,
And lean not on your own understanding,
In all your ways acknowledge Him,
And He shall direct your paths."
(Proverbs 3:5-6)
At every moment, acknowledge Him, by seeing what work He has you doing at each moment. There are ones who say we must do works for our salvation, but they are not personally submitting to God, but presuming imperfectly what He wants, copy-catting works which even a predator or psycho weirdo can imitate. |
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---Bill_bila5659 on 6/12/08 |
Neither. It is doing what the word says, "work out your own salvation with fear and trembling".(Philippians 2:12) |
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---Rickey on 6/12/08 |
Keeping Salvation comes with work. If a person gets born again and in the beginning on fire for God, but then later on doesn't study the bible, pray or do anything for God, then they are not being very faithful. If continue on this path, they will eventually go back to their old ways and backslide. One must maintain works to stay faithful to Christ. Christ already done his part by saving us, he just needs us to be faithful. |
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---Rebecca_D on 6/12/08 |
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