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A church uses the money from tithes to pay the utilities or/and for the payment/building funds. But tithing doesn't always involve money. Christians should give God our time and effort.
My current church runs entirely on freewill offerings. They have a $6M budget and 2 multi-milliondollar campuses. They would like to get "tithes", but people only give about 3.5%. Still, it supports all those buildings and a $1M missions budget and 57 staff members! Yes we tithe our time. There is a big landscape project coming up!
---obewan on 3/20/09

A Christian should tithe unto the Lord, to give back (or try) what all he has done for each person. No God doesn't need our money but the church you go to on a regular basis does. A church uses the money from tithes to pay the utilities or/and for the payment/building funds. But tithing doesn't always involve money. Christians should give God our time and effort. Seek him and draw nigh to him to get closer to him. A church should not make anyone pay their tithes. I don't understand why a person doesn't tithe to their church. The Pastor should know where the money is going from tithing and discuss it with the church. If the Pastor doesn't know then I'd be concerned.
---Rebecca_D on 3/20/09

"I do agree that in almost all cases it is food but Abraham breaks that rule." John, How can Abraham "break" a rule that was not in existence? The Law of Moses came hundreds of years after Abraham tithed to Melchisedec.
---tommy3007 on 3/19/09

It is believed taxes paid for the construction of the temples.

Total taxation, including tithes, easily approximated forty (40) percent. This ambiguity of the tithe, as a royal due on the one hand, and as a sacred donation on the other, is to be explained by the fact that the temples to which the tithe was assigned were royal temples (cf. Amos 7:13) and, as such, the property and treasures in them were put at the kings disposal. . . ."
The kings controlled the treasures of palace and temple alike. . . . It stands to reason that the tithe, which originally was a religious tribute, came to be channeled to the court, and was therefore supervised by royal authorities."
Russ Kelly PhD.
---obewan on 3/19/09

The Torah required tithing only of agricultural products and livestock. And it required an active Levitical priesthood to receive those tithes. So today any sort of tithing is purely voluntary. God bless you.
---JohnnyB on 3/18/09

Heb 7:5 says that Levi had a commandment to take tithes from their brethren. This was their sustenance. To say that money was not included would be presumtious as it takes more than groceries to run a priesthood and temple operation just like it takes more than groceries to operate a church today.
Abraham gave a tenth of all his spoils to Melchizedeck and I'm sure there was plenty of money in all those spoils. 10% is 10% of whatever increase. I do agree that in almost all cases it is food but Abraham breaks that rule.
In Deut.14 the food can be sold for money and then the money can buy whatever the soul lusteth after, even strong drink.
---john on 3/19/09

Don't block God in, and to say a Christian must tithe to get God's blessing, is doing just that, blocking God in and black mailing Him for blessings. While there is nothing to state I must tithe, it is a foolish Christian who doesn't. When a missionary before I retired, I wrote a little slogan on top of the mission's receit that stated, "Tithing is an investment with the greatest returns" For 33 years my wife and I tithed on the gross of our contributions, and "never missed meal." We have always tithed, and always will, not because it's requied, but because we want to. The bible states we are go give to God as we prosper, and God loves a cheerful giver, and to give a man wages worthy of his hire.
---wivv on 3/18/09

The tithe was also used to support the Levitical priestood and the operation of the temple.
I have heard many scholars say that "offerings of money" were used to build the temples, and that after that only food was required to sustain the priests. Most of what I have heard is the "offerings" (of money) are and were freewill, and tithes were the law - and only then for agrarian members of the tribes of Israel. And if they sold their food for profit, but only tithed food, they were actually tithing on net and not gross! -->(for those hardliner tithe advocates.)
---obewan on 3/18/09

The tithe was also used to support the Levitical priestood and the operation of the temple. I suspect that some of this had to be money but it doesn't say. Either way, both of these have been abolished and, according to Heb 7, of necessity, the law of tithing also had to be changed. We now have the Spirit to guide us, not the law. The mandatory 10% that only the Jews were ordered to give is no longer in effect to them, and most certainnly not to the Church.
---john on 3/18/09

Use Gods Word to define tithe not a secular dictionary! A Bible concordance shows the definition used by tithe-advocates is wrong. In Gods Word the source of God's "tithe" over 1500 years was never money. It was the tithe of food.

There are 16 verses from 11 chapters and 8 books from Leviticus 27 to Luke 11 which describe the contents of the tithe. And the contents never (again), never included money, silver, gold or anything other than food from inside Israel! Yet the incorrect definition of "tithe" is the greatest error being preached about tithing today! (See Lev. 27:30, 32, Num. 18:27-28, Deut. 12:17, 14:22-23, 26:12, 2 Chron. 31:5-6, Neh. 10:37, 13:5, Mal. 3:10-11, Matt. 23:23, Luke 11: 42). Russell Kelly Phd.
---obewan on 3/18/09

Obewan - What you talk about IS FALSE Doctorine, 1st, the Tithe IS money, NOT food.
---Leslie on 3/16/09
I never once said that freewill offerings of money should not be 10%, or that 10% should not be the guideline. However, I would like to see you support with scripture the "fact" that tithes were money. In every case where the word is used, it was a "tax" of food. This topic has been beat to death on several other threads. I don't feel up to going into it again. And freewill offerings can be and often are MORE than 10%. I don't see it as robbing God at all is someone is led to give less than 10%. Making it legalism leads to false doctrines.
---obewan on 3/16/09

Obewan - What you talk about IS FALSE Doctorine, and is NOT lined up with the Bible. 1st, the Tithe IS money, NOT food. 2nd, the 3rd year Tithe is differant than the regular Tithe of every paycheck. The Bible clearly makes the distintion. If God has your money, He truly has your heart - as the Bible says, where your treasure is, there is your heart. People who don't believe in Tithing money, do so because of greed and covetousness inside of them. They want to take what is God's.
---Leslie on 3/16/09

Obewan - Some of what you talk about (strangers, orphans, and widows) applies to the 3rd year tithe, NOT the tithe in general.
The third year tithe was the same as the tithe in general but the whole tithe went for the poor. General tithes were also food. Nowhere in scripture do we find tithes being money. There IS reference to freewill offerings being money. People can't have it both ways. If the tithe law still applies today, then 1/3 should go to the poor. At my current church, which has an athletics pastor on staff at over $70K per year to head up sports, I earmark my tithes so that larger portions go to the poor - rather than the church's less than 3% of tithe money for the poor.
---obewan on 3/16/09

Obewan - Some of what you talk about (strangers, orphans, and widows) applies to the 3rd year tithe, NOT the tithe in general. Every 3rd year people were required by God to total up ALL of their grain and finances, and tithe off of it. This is to be done today for ALL people. Infact, it is 2009 (9 being a multiple of 3), so it is the 3rd year. ALL people are required by God to total up ALL their finances (or debt), and tithe (10%) off of it. The rest of what you have said, is for the sacrifices in the Temple, which are NOT done today. This is where if they could not bring an animal to sacrifice, they would bring money to attone for sins.
---Leslie on 3/14/09

Kathr, thank you for sharing TRUTH, even though there will be many who will hate and despise you for it.

The people who use the passage of scripture found in Malachi chapters 3-5, fall into the catagory of what is written in Romans 1:25 and 2 Peter Chapter 2.

They tell people if they want to receive a blessing from God they need to sow a seed. They will never tell people this goes against what is written in Acts 8:20-24.

They will not tell people that sowing seed has nothing to do with money, but has everything to do with sharing the Gospel of Christ, Mark 4:13-20.

These people I often see on the Daystar Televison Network, especially during their spring and fall share-a-thon.
---Rob on 3/13/09

Obewan - I don't know where you got information, definatly (sic) NOT the Bible. ---Leslie 3/11/09

Deuteronomy 14:
Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. Eat the tithe of your the presence of the LORD....But if that place is too distant ...cannot carry your your tithe for silver, and take the silver...go to the place the LORD your God will choose. Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink...Then you and your household shall eat there...At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year's produce and store it in your towns, so that...the aliens, the fatherless and the widows...may come and eat and be satisfied.
---obewan on 3/13/09

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Tithe, is an old English word meaning One tenth.From Psalm 24:1-2 and 1 Cor10:26 we know that everything belongs to God.God supplies 9 parts of everything all man suppliesis one part planning thinking and working.Although this also belongs to Him, He asks One tenth of this The rest 9 parts is for us to use.This one tenth He uses to propagate His word.Just like the one tree in the garden of Eden He reserved for Himself, the rest He gave for A & E.So to tithe is to glorify God and this, is not a sin as some will have you believe. MICAH,6:8 expresses the sentiments of God.He never changes.
---MIC on 3/12/09

Rob i'm not Lesie but the bible says there is a curse on us if we don't Read Malica i thing its 3-5 read the whole chapter
-Betty on 3/12/09

Betty, can you show me where it says we have a curse on us if we don't read Malica 3-5?

Betty Jesus took our curse, and no Christian has any curse on them whatsoever.

EXCEPT if you have put yourself under OT LAW, then you are cursed and not just for not tithing.

Galatians 3:10
For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse:for it is written,Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

Galatians 3:13
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: ....
---kathr4453 on 3/12/09

---Kellie Post is very illustrating of a great truth. I believe this truth will pass over most readers but it is nevertheless an illustrative truth.
---mima on 3/12/09

Kellie :- He has already told us A TITHE =one tenth.
---Mic on 3/12/09

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1 Cor 16:2 On the first day of every week let each one of you put aside and save, as he may prosper, that no collections be made when I come. 2 Cor 9:7 Let each one do just as he has purposed in his heart, not grudginly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. Those who give cheerfully what they purpose in their heart are blessed by their giving. Those who purpose in their heart to give 10 percent or more cheerfully are blessed by their giving. Those who give any amount because they feel they have to will not be blessed by their giving.
---Bob on 3/12/09

Obewan - I don't know where you got your information, but it is definatly NOT the Bible. What you have said does NOT line up with the Bible.
---Leslie on 3/11/09
You obviously do not know your old testament. It absolutely does line up with all the scruptures on tithing. You obviously do not know what the word tithe means. Just look in any concordance for poor tithe. The scriptures on tithing even say that if the food could not be carried, it was to be sold for money, and then the money used to convert back to a food tithe at the temple location!
---obewan on 3/12/09

Interestingly,the Jewish people today,(those who follow the law,practicing Jews),do not tithe! Why? Because they do not have a Temple! Therefore there are no priests and Levites to support. If those to whom the Law was given don't tithe because of the circumstances today then why in the world do we think we should? They do give freewill offerings to support the poor, the stranger, and their synagogues. Paul said we shouldn't muzzle the ox,ie,he who works should be able to eat from that work, ie, Pastors and the church. He also said "Give what you purpose in your heart." That could be 5,7,10 40, or even 100%! As a Christian all your money belongs to God. So listen for His voice and he will tell you where and how much to give!
---Kellie on 3/12/09

Rob i'm not Lesie but the bible says there is a curse on us if we don't Read Malica i thing its 3-5 read the whole chapter
---Betty on 3/12/09

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10 percent is cursed: 100 percent is blessed.
---Eloy on 3/12/09

You MUST not tithe! You should tithe according to the teachings in the Bible. But it should not be a chore. The Lord apprecaites a cheeerful giver! PR
---Pierr5358 on 3/11/09

Kenny, Maybe you had better go back and read in Numbers 1:46 again about how many Moses led out of Egypt. According to the text I read, it was more like 603,550 men from 20 years old and up. This doesn't include the Levites or the women, and children under 20 years. In total the number of all the people that left Egypt was something like 2 1/2 million people according to some estimates.
---tommy3007 on 3/11/09

There are many ways to 'give' other than cash money.
---sue on 3/11/09

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My husband and I do not attend any church but do believe in giving tithes by giving to the poor or anyone we see who may need our help. God has blessed us greatly.
---Nadia on 3/11/09

This is all I have to say.....
2Co 9:5 So I have decided to ask Titus and the others to spend some time with you before I arrive. This way they can arrange to collect the money you have promised. Then you will have the chance to give because you want to, and not because you feel forced to.
2Co 9:6 Remember this saying, "A few seeds make a small harvest, but a lot of seeds make a big harvest."
2Co 9:7 Each of you must make up your own mind about how much to give. But don't feel sorry that you must give and don't feel that you are forced to give. God loves people who love to give.
2Co 9:8 God can bless you with everything you need, and you will always have more than enough to do all kinds of good things for others.
---Stephanie on 3/11/09

Obewan - I don't know where you got your information, but it is definatly NOT the Bible. What you have said does NOT line up with the Bible.
---Leslie on 3/11/09

ALL Christians MUST tithe. If you do not, you are robbing (stealing) from God, and you WILL be under a financial curse (Malachi 3:8-12, Matthew 22:21 - render to God what is God's).
---Leslie on 3/4/09
Never forget, tithes were always food only and never money. Also, 1/3 of the tithe went to the storehouse to feed the poor, widows, disabled, and orphans. Now, is a church that does not keep the OT "poor tithe" and spends its money on selfish "programs" going to be under a curse?
---obewan on 3/11/09

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Jesus knew who would except Him before the Creation of this world. Jesus knows everything. Jesus knew everything. Jesus was not just a man. Jesus was God in the flesh. Wicked men put our Saviour on a cross. And wicked men are still doing it today. When the wicked tells God's people not to pray in Jesus' Name. You tell the wicked man, "I will pray in God's name"? And His name is Jesus Christ. [One God]. And I will praise my God. Jesus went to the cross, so will God's people, go to the cross. Now, you are being Christ-like! Get that silly grin off your face. There is work to be done. Come on!
---catherine on 3/11/09

IF TITHING IS SIN-then why do christians pay thites to big Christian Organisations and Pastors of Churches.Are these not considered as Good works? Matt.6 :2 it is not what you give but the intent why you give.The sin is in here. The widows mite is an illustration noted of and spoken of by Our divone Lord.Again we get the doctrine of God twisted.WHY?
---Mic on 3/11/09

Tithing is sin, and Christians do not sin.
---Eloy on 3/11/09

Rob - in Colossians which you mention, it talks about freedom from HUMAN LAWS, NOT God's laws. As humans we MUST still follow God's laws, or we do NOT belong to Christ, but to the Devil (Matthew 5:19-20,John 14:15,1 John 2:3-5). This is why Jesus so highly critisized the Pharasis. They were living by human laws, but not God's laws. What you teach is nothing but LIES.
---Leslie on 3/10/09

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Please! Jesus might have set at the offering table to watch the money ringing. I won't do this. However, He praised the poor woman who only gave a small amount. She did not keep back what little pentance she had for fear of having no money to buy any food with. Jesus also watch the rich pour a lot of their money into the plate. Guess which person God noticed, and praised, and blessed..And is in heaven right now. [She actually gave more than the rich]. Praise God, always.++
---catherine on 3/10/09

We have two obediences. God directly and the word of God. The only way to be blessed by God is to obey Him.
---catherine on 3/10/09

Leslie, why did you only share what is written in Ephesians 2:14-16? Why did you not share what is written in the entire chapter?

Leslie, do you not know and understand the mystery of the Gospel which was kept secret from the foundation of the world, until it was revealed to the Apostle Paul, Colossians 1:24 thru Colossians Chapter 2..

If you don't know about the mystery, that is OK. I had been going to churches for over 40 years, but until last year, I never heard anyone talk about the mystery, and I think I know why.

I believe if these people know if they shared the mystery as it is written in scripture, people would be set free, and they could no longer hold people captive and in their bondage.

---Rob on 3/9/09

Jesus sat at the offering plate to see who tithed and who didn't. Read Mark chapter 12 verses 41-44. The new testament is the fulfillment of the old testament.All the people that are mentioned in the new testament,all knew the old testament well. Jesus himself thought it was pretty important,shouldn't we.
---Glen on 3/7/09

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Rob - What does being a Jew or not have to do with following God's law and the Bible? NOTHING. ALL people are instruted to obey God's law and the Bible, NOT just Jews (1 John 2:3-5). You say you are a Gentile, so that means you are NOT saved. When you get saved, you become grafted into the Jewish linage - meaning if you are saved, you are now a Jew (NOT a Gentile - Gentile means lost Ephesians 2:14-16). In the N.T. it says to tithe in Matthew 22:21 - render to Cesar what is Cesar's (government taxes) and unto God what is God's (tithe).
---Leslie on 3/6/09

Leslie, I am not Jewish or from the Nation of Isarael. How ever I am a Christian Gentile. Will you please show where in the New Testament I am instructed to tithe?
---Rob on 3/6/09

Rob - I believe in ONLY the ENTIRE BIBLE that is the ONLY TRUTH. The scriptures you refur to talk about having Godly character and being like the Bereans who followed the ENTIRE WORD of God, because they found it to be TRUE. If you believe what I tell you is FALSE, then you ARE a FALSE teacher, and others need to be warned NOT to listen to you. If you are NOT tithing, the Bible says you are Robbing (Stealing) from God.
---Leslie on 3/5/09

Leslie, you sound like you follow the distorted and perverse FALSE TEACHING of the Word Of Faith/Name It Claim It/Prosperity Gospel Movement.

These people are wolves in sheeps clothing who have turned God's House into a Den of Thieves. They constantly use what is written in Malachi, but they will never tell you this was written to the Nation of Israel.

Don't believe me just because I sais it, check it out for yourself, 2 Timothy 2:14-19, and Acts 17:11.
---Rob on 3/5/09

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ALL Christians MUST tithe. If you do not, you are robbing (stealing) from God, and you WILL be under a financial curse (Malachi 3:8-12, Matthew 22:21 - render to God what is God's).
---Leslie on 3/4/09

Tithing is something that God asked us to do to see where our heart is. We can put money, our jobs, our car,sports, and time before God. I believe it was to test us to see who we put first. We can make everything an idol and I believe God used money to have us give because that is one of the hardest thing to let go of. In the bible, it says "Its easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. Malichi "Will I not open up the windows of heaven and pour out more blessings than you you can even contain. Its also say if you give little, you get little, if you give much, you will received much. If you give,the blessings will be pressed down, shaken together, and overflowing.
---Janine_Henschel on 3/2/09

No. We are blessed just to be alive!
One can tithe if they choose to but is not obligated to do so. Tithing is like choosing to eat a steak over pork bones. The steak is a better choice of meat but eating pork bones meet the need(hunger)also.In other words. If tithing makes you feel better.Do it! Giving is the better choice.I think.
---Robyn on 3/2/09

Tithing has its own special blessings.
---Betty on 3/1/09

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From NEl:Did not Jesus himself tell us to give unto God that which is God's and unto caesar that which is caesar's

What you are referring to is a question posed to Jesus about roman taxation, which has nothing to do with this subject.

What you are in effect saying is "why worry about it, just give.

The point is we are suppose to give from our heart.
When pastors teach tithing as manatory, people do it because they think if they don't, they are robbing God.
In other words, doing it because you want to is far different from doing it because you have to.
Especially, when there is no scripture to support a christian tithing.
---john_adams on 12/12/08

Did not Jesus himself tell us to give unto God that which is God's and unto caesar that which is caesar's. Since everything we have comes from God then why are we quibbling over amounts. God does furnish every need. If you question this just try it. God will mutiply everything you have and you will be happier in God's will.
---Nel on 12/12/08

The tithe was a jewish law for the jews only, not for christians. We as christians are suppose to give and we will recieve in the same measure we have given. But there no law or command to tithe 10% of our income if we are a christian.
---johnadams on 12/12/08

If Christians built their churches the way churches began, Christians wouldn't need to tithe. They wouldn't need tithes for building maintenance, church entertainment, etc. The money would be going to what matters most - feeding and clothing the poor and quenching the thirst of the needy.

If a pastor was worth his salt, he would have an empty building for all his members would be out into the world preaching the gospel instead of being only hearers of the Word.

Being a Christian is a 24/7 struggle and should be meeting daily so no one detours from the path towards God's Kingdom. Do a search for "home churches" for its benefits. Also do an online bible search for "one another," and "each other."
---Steveng on 10/28/08

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Gordon>>"There was no abolishment of the 10 commandments..."

Lets examine the commandment on tithes. "And verily they that are of the sons of Levi have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is of their brethren..."(Heb.7:5) So, the tithes are supposedly given by the people to the sons of Levi who receive the office of the priesthood.

Question: Do the sons of Levi still hold office of the priesthood til today? Why do I ask, because we as Christians, who do we look to as our priest? "...We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens,"(Heb.8:1)
---manny on 10/28/08

Why Do I ask about priesthood?

"For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law."(Heb.7:12)

The priesthood being changed from the Levitical priesthood into the unchangeable priesthood of our Lord Jesus Christ, there was also made of necessity a change of the law.
So, if the law during the levitical priesthood is "tithe", what is the law during the time of Christ? "Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give, not grudgingly, or of necessity..."(2Cor.9:7) As Christians, we are to give "according to the purpose of our heart" meaning it may be 5%, 10%, 50%... hence, it is not anymore "tithing".
---manny on 10/28/08

Lee1538, Yes, the Command for GOD's people to tithe is in the Old Testament. Did you not know that the ENTIRE HOLY BIBLE, BOTH NEW AND OLD TESTAMENTS are GOD's Written Word? FOR HIS PEOPLE? You say that you believe it is His Word, but you don't REALLY follow it. RIGHT? What GOD expects of us then, He still does today. The New and Old Covenants had to do with the SOURCE of Blood Atonement. The Old was temporary atonement from animal blood, the New is Permenant Blood Covering for the OBEDIENT! There was NO ABOLISHMENT of the 10 Commandments, nor of the Command to tithe as stated in Malachi.
---Gordon on 9/29/08

Lee1538, People in the Church already claim they are no longer under the Law, but under Grace and they are "FREED" to give, BUT THEY DON'T GIVE! So many churches have a problem where MOST people do not tithe. They are more concerned with the THINGS of THIS temporary life, including paying off their debts from buying the newer and better models of WHATEVER. (I'm not referring to those who HAD to take out loans for medical reasons, etc!) I'm talkin' from just maxing out their plastic cards for "STUFF". They are drawn away buy the "cares of this world" and their hearts are not set on GOD's Kingdom agenda with the Church on Earth. We already teach and preach "free-will giving" and it's not soaking in!
---Gordon on 9/29/08

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obewan - agree and many Christians believe that 10% is a fair amount to give to the work of the Lord and most of us can live on 90% of our income if we properly manage our budget.

What bothers me is that some believe they must met the tithe and do so but at the expense of their own families. I worked with a sailor kids were always over the neighbors place looking for food.

Let's face it from a practical standpoint, 10% is a necessary tax deduction for a successful dentist but food right off the table for an enlisted military living in substandard housing with a wife and kid to support.

When will those pastors that quote Malachi 3:10 ever get into the New Testament teaching on grace giving?
---Lee1538 on 9/23/08

Christians are not mandated to tithe. Tithing was to support the 48 Levitical cities because they had no inheritance of land. Christians are to give as the Holy Spirit prompsts them to.
---Ryan_Z on 9/23/08

It is pitiful that some pastors are unable to preach the truth concerning the tithe as they fear that the Lord will not provide.
---Lee1538 on 9/23/08

Amen to that nailed it, that's exactly what it is.
---Holly4jc on 9/23/08

Gordon - *Let's forget about any money for purchasing any materials needed for any special projects and we'll then see how far we get.

I rather doubt that Christians do not believe in giving to the Lord's work either with money or time or both. The point is there is no command for the OT tithe in the New Covenant of the church. Some give 10% some more others less in accordance to how the Lord has blessed them.

What we really have today is a 'christianized' version of the tithe which is not agricultural but money.

It is pitiful that some pastors are unable to preach the truth concerning the tithe as they fear that the Lord will not provide.
---Lee1538 on 9/23/08

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Tithing in the Old Covenant dispensation was an agricultural contribution to the Levitical priesthood. It was not a contribution of money thro the upkeep of the temple in Jerusalem did acquire money.
Lee, that is the most biblical answer on this entire thread. My understanding is that freewill offerings are intended to support the NT church. Many people say they are anything above 10%. I would challenge those people to support that conclusion with scripture. I have not seen that written anywhere in all of the Bible.
---obewan on 9/22/08

Okay, Lee, let's take money completely out of the picture. Let's just round up all of the Christians to evangelize and then disciple the entire Globe WITHOUT MONEY. No money for books, Bibles, papers, pencils, pens. No money for food for the hungry, we'll give them all of our food, and we won't use money to replenish more food for ourselves and others. No money for favours needed like building special houses for the homeless. Let's forget about any money for purchasing any materials needed for any special projects and we'll then see how far we get.
---Gordon on 9/22/08

Tithing in the Old Covenant dispensation was an agricultural contribution to the Levitical priesthood. It was not a contribution of money thro the upkeep of the temple in Jerusalem did acquire money.

While the OT tithe was not money, what we have today is a 'Christianized version' of the tithe to support the ministry of the church.

However, what about the tithing of our time, can we assign some monetary value to that? Money is one thing, but it takes people to keep such an institution going.
---Lee1538 on 9/21/08

I don't think so. Tithing is voluntary not mandatory. If you choose to tithe, its ok! But if not--I don't think you will lose any blessings,because of it. God love s a cheerful giver. If we love God,love others and give cheerfully when we can, I think we are doing ok.
---Robyn on 9/19/08

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Matthew 17:24-27 And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute? He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers? Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.

they who received the two drachms. The
drachm was a Grecian coin, worth about 12 1/2 cents [about 7d.] of our money. This
tribute, consisting of these two drachms, was not paid to the Roman government, but to
the Jewish collectors, for the use of the temple service
---exzucuh on 9/19/08

Alan_The whipping post & the cross...
He was bruised for our trangressions & by his stripes we are healed,
God could'nt even look upon him when he took the sins of man upon himself (His moment of Doubt & Pain), that's when Yahshua(Jesus) asked God "Why have you forsaken me"!

Heb. 12 tells us to consider the Lord when he endured the cross and that every son that comes unto the Father is chastized by him, and "IF" you endure you'll be treated as his children...
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 9/18/08

DDM ... When was Jesus chastised?
---alan_of_UK on 9/18/08

How many times must i tell you,
God chastizes "EVERY" man that comes unto him, NOT EVEN JESUS ESCAPED THIS!
and if you ENDURE, then you'll be treated as his children,
Those who do the WILL of God are his children!

answer to "?" NO!!!!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 9/18/08

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Tom, Once you have been Born Again from Above, by the Grace of GOD, you become His child. Then when your Parent tells you to do something, you should do it. If you do not, you are disobeying. GOD demands obedience. One can choose to obey GOD by tithing, at His Command, and have a loving attitude of gratitude that he belongs to Him now. That he has been redeemed from SIN and from the Eternal Torments of HELL. To obey someone Who you KNOW loves you perfectly is not legalism. It's showing your love in return. YAHUSHUA (JESUS) said that if we love Him, we will obey His Commands. Obeying the commands of Authority is LOVE, also.
---Gordon on 9/18/08

"God wants His children to be giving people but he wants to give out of love and not out of compulsion. When a demand is made for a specific amount it becomes a matter of law and grace."

Well put, Tom!
---Bobby3 on 9/17/08

The issue of tithing in the New Covenant is not a money matter, let me say that again tithing is not a money matter. It is not about money or giving. It is a matter about law and grace. It is a matter of giving out of compulsion. It is a matter of whether the blood of Jesus Christ cleanses us from all sin or does it not. God wants His children to be giving people but he wants to give out of love and not out of compulsion. When a demand is made for a specific amount it becomes a matter of law and grace.
---Tom on 9/16/08

Duane, It's the GREEDY FALSE TEACHERS AND FALSE PROPHETS that have given the Church a bad name when it comes to money. How else can we to expect the unsaved to react in regards to giving to GOD's Kingdom Ministry on Earth? They do not know GOD, and by and large do not find GOD's Kingdom Work worth donating money to. At the end of the day, EVERYONE will have made their own decision to follow GOD or reject Him, and this out of their own free will. They can be influenced to reject GOD because of poor testimonies of phony saints, but, they still have to decide for themselves if they want Salvation or not.
---Gordon on 9/8/08

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Duane, no money isn't the basis for salvation, but Jesus Christ had a treasury while here on earth to help financially support the ministry in Mark chapter 12, verses 41-44 and even complimented the poor widow who gave so much to the ministry. In Ecclesiastes chapter 10, verse 19 it says "money answereth all things." Money is needed to support churches and ministries here on earth. Jesus said also in Luke chapter 12, verse 34 "where your treasure is there will your heart be also." Jesus shows the importance of giving when he commented on how much the poor widow contributed.
---theresa on 9/7/08

Where is your faith coming from? Your money?
We need not money to proclaim the Gospel. We need people filled with the Spirit. We need faith not money. We need to go on the hiways and byways to proclaim the Gospel. The churches are preaching money/tithing which turn the unsaved away.
---duane on 9/6/08

Yes, Bobby3, maybe the money needed will come, also, from the mouth of a fish. So that GOD's people do not have to give of their own finances and can spend all of their money on their own wants. Without answering to GOD, that is. But, so far, I've not heard of any of the funds that have been given to GOD's Ministries coming from fish-mouths. Most come from the comparatively few Saints willing to give of their earned salaries. There is hardly enough for those truly doing GOD's Work, because too many saints are not giving as GOD Commands. Each Saint will answer for what they did with "their" money, and whether or not they regarded GOD's call to them to give, in joyful willingness, to His Work on Earth. Selfish greed leads to Hell.
---Gordon on 9/5/08

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