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Should Jews Become Christians

Do you think Jews should give up Judaism and become Christians? Why?

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In Genesis God promises Abraham 'a' seed that will bless all nations. In Hebrews we learn that that single seed was not Issac but a direct descended. Jesus humanity was that seed and the blessing was from his divinity. Should Jews be Christians? Christian is a term given to those who believe and follow the teaching of Christ. Jew or Gentile. The first people called Christians were the Jewish believers in Antioch.
---Harold on 2/9/11


Good points Trav!
---John on 2/8/11


The first Christians were exclusively Jewish though in modern America we have re-written history to suggest it was a creation of the Gentiles.
Every person on the planet should accept Joshua of Nazareth as savior regardless of the title of your faith.
Why argue Christianity versus Messianic Jew?
---larry on 2/9/11


Is not Messiah a Promise in Judaism and is not Christianity the final sect of the Judaic order. The Final King/High Priest in ONE.
---John on 2/8/11

Well, you're 1/12th right. Messiah is a promise to All Israel. All 13 components of. Ask Jacobs daughter at the well.
All prophets agree on this. Christ states it. Apostles state it.
Judean is a better term...judaism is a tag of their blindness.
Note an unpreached verse: Matt 15:24. These sheep described by the Messiah were lost, Judah was not lost.
Romans explains. All the apostles explain. Heb 8:8, confirms the two houses.
---Trav on 2/8/11


Note how you quoted Isaiah.

Is not Messiah a Promise in Judaism and is not Christianity the final sect of the Judaic order. The Final King/High Priest in ONE.

Because the Nicea Council/ Pagan Emperor Constantine perverted and broke away from Judaism to form a separate Pagan Sect which they also named "Christianity". So to replace G-ds Holy Days with new Pagan Holy Days (Christmass/Easter). DOES NOT ALTER THE TRUTH!

Which is G-d has NOT changed! Neither did Judaism. Christ was Jew and Christians are the JEWS who believed Jesus was Messiah Promised.

I'm NOT talking about Jews, but about JUDAISM. Those who hold true to the Teaching of Yeshua The Christ and observe the Holy Days Decreed by G-d NOT Constantine
---John on 2/8/11




John: Christianity is not Judaism. Chritianity came out of Judaism but they are not the same. The Lord Jesus came and He modified a lot of old that were practices BC with new/additional instructions Isaiah 9:7.
---Adetunji on 2/8/11


CHRISTIANITY IS JUDAISM!!!Another example of just how IGNORANT "Christians" are.

Add this one to the many posts I've made on this subject.---John on 2/7/11

You'll catch more sheep if you show some scripture witnessing the above statement. You're comment is technically incorrect. Hold off on a big mad.
I think I know where you're coming from. Terms jews,Judean,Judism and Israel are easily misinterpreted.
Christ=anointed...Christian=follower of.
Judaism does not reflect Christ. Christ does not reflect Judaism in a singular sense.
After denying their own Judean King/Messiah, Christ went to the Nth Divorce house as a collective leader and future Bridegroom. Matt 15:28.
---Trav on 2/8/11


CHRISTIANITY IS JUDAISM!!!

Another example of just how IGNORANT "Christians" are.

Add this one to the many posts I've made on this subject.
---John on 2/7/11


Yes: Consider Paul's comment about being a physical Jew.

Phil 3:5
"Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews, as touching the law, a Pharisee,

...But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ....and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ"
---Haz27 on 2/7/11


No the Jew should stay in Judaism and not become a Christian because there is nothing to be saved from. There is no teaching in our religion concerning the Original sin so we not condemed to hell cos of Adams sin as taught by the Christians.The fact is the teachings about hell Oringinal sin the Mashiach etc are very different from both religions. Judaism does not have a hell or belive that G-d has a separate son we all the sons of Almighty G-d.
---Yehudaohr on 2/7/11




gophylan, paul gave a good solution to this CHRISTO-JUDAIC disacord, im a christian, and i believe that a jew who comes to Christ does nott need to give up any of itsd traditions, celebrations and ways. since non are contradicting GODS WAY for jews. yet as a GOYIM i dont really see the need as well to be lectured to return to the JEWISH LAW. i abide in the MESSIANIC LAW (Love God avbove all and your neighbour as yourself)and i do not eat meat sacrificed to idols, strangled or blood. (i even refuse to eat eastereggs and i totally reject SANTA CLAUS because of this paganistic idolatric tendency. again the LAW of MOSES is good for jews, yet why should i take up a law than neither you or your parrents could carry
---Andy on 5/1/09


Their unbelief in the Lord is why Jerusalem was destroyed in 70AD and why a 1/3rd of them will be removed(die), and not until they call upon the NAME(Yahshua/Jesus)of the Lord will he save them, be of good cheer though, they will call upon his NAME, the 144,000 that will be sealed w/the seal of God will help them, just as the 2 witness's will.

And they will know that God has saved them, Not Americas Missile defense system or any other gov's. help, AND, so will ALL of the World know that God has done this thing for them and it will take 6 months to bury the dead, God will cleanse the Heavens & the Earth w/fire as spoken by the prophets.
Satellites & such must be destroyed from the Heaven & the face of the Earth
---Duane_Dudley_Martin_Jr. on 4/3/09


I find last Post by---gophylann to be exactly correct according to the messianic Jewish people and I dealt with. Jesus Christ is not a different course for the Jewish people he is the completion of their salvation!! But most Jewish people are blind to this fact.
---mima on 4/3/09


The ONLY way to the Father is through the Son - Yeshua Ha Mashiach - Yeshua means "salvation". whether Jew or Gentile, the only way of salvation is through Yeshua, because he became the ultimate sacrifice for our sins - Jew and Gentile alike. He paid the ultimate price for His Bride. A Jew that accepts Yeshua as Messiah is still a Jew and does not need to give up the Sabbath and the Feasts and living a Kosher Diet lifestyle or keeping Torah. All of us should stay from paganism and the holidays that are steeped in it - Christmas, Halloween, Easter - instead, Celebrate the Holy days that the G-d of Abraham, Issac and Jacob gave to us - they are so much more a blessing.
---gophylann on 4/3/09


Yes. The messiah they are waiting for is not Jesus Christ, therefore they will be lost in their sins lest they repent. For there is no other Name under Heaven whereby we must be saved but the Name Jesus Christ. Those who reject Jesus Christ reject God also.
---Betty on 3/1/09


Why? Have you ever really studied the origins of Christianity's celebrations? What does Christmas have to do with Christ's birth? Easter with the the resurrection of Jesus? Jesus? A Jewish Messiah named Jesus, isn't the name Jesus possibly Greek? The Jewish people look at these things that don't make a lot of sense. They keep the feasts, which God commands. They wonder why would a Jewish Messiah permit the pagan parts of Christianity. No, thanks I will love Messiah and keep steeped in Judaism.
---Maria on 3/1/09


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Acts 4:12 "And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men, by which we must be saved. The bible is the Word of God, written by men inspired by God according to scripture. Jesus is the only live Savior and those who reject Him as the only way, the truth and the life cannot come to the Father any other way. John 14:6 The Messiah arrived, was crucified and resurrected. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, and today, yes and forever. Hebrews 13:8 Give it some thought!
---Bob on 2/4/09


Jesus died so that He might remove the division between both Jew and Gentile. He died to bring them together as one in Himself. He didn't die so that we might be called christians or Jews, but rather so that we might become sons and daughters of God through Him. In the Kingdom of Heaven there is neither Jew nor Gentile, but only the sons and daughters of God. We are to become the one new man in Christ Jesus! If you are in Yeshua, then you are no longer considered to be a Jew! You are one of His sons! You are no longer under the letter of the law, but rather the law of Christ! You are saved by grace through faith in the Son of God! These are the days of the fullness of the Gentiles! All of Israel shall believe!!!
---Bryan on 2/4/09


Not to mention Mima, that racial profiling is not necessary and has no part of the Gospel, or preaching of the Gospel.

The Gospel is clearly stated in 1st Corinthians 15:1-4. Jesus Christ died on a cross for our (all mankind) sins, and rose again for our justification.

The Gospel is believing in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

If you note the Book of Acts,this was preached to the Jews, and that they crucified the Lord of Glory, of which many pierced in heart said: What shall we then do? The answer...Repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ! That message is the same to Jews, Greek, Chinese, Spanish, Italian, etc.
---kathr4453 on 1/4/09


I see by your name Mr. Cohan that you are Jewish. Here's my answer to your question. I believe you should become what is known as a messianic Jew. You can keep all your Jewishness and still accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah, your Messiah. .....---mima on 12/30/08



Mima, I believe you just offered Mr. Cohan the Galatian Heresy!

Mr Cohan, becoming a Messianic Jew is not the Answer. Becoming a New Creation in Christ Jesus IS!!! In Christ we are no longer Jew or Gentile, but a New Creature, one new man in Christ AKA THE CHURCH.

Messianic Jews(composed mostly of Gentiles wanna be Jews) do not believe in THE CHURCH, or the Rapture of the Church, or the Heavenly Calling of the Church...
---kathr4453 on 1/3/09


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A Jew that accepts Jesus as the Messiah is still a Jew.
The Bible was written by Jews and in Jewish context.
The first believers were Jews and worshiped in a Jewish style.
---gophylann on 9/5/08

This is not entirely accurate above, and confuses the truth.

A Judean that Christ draws and he/she accepts it a Christian first...that is nationally Judean.

The Bible was not and is not Judean start to finish. It is about all of the Nations of ISRAEL...(13)thirteen. From Genesis to Revelations.
Christ come to his own and they would have him not. Other Nations of Israel, Houses,Tribes Divorced first...the lost sheep did accept him. And still do.
---Trav on 1/2/09


It seems Bernie has not left (8/29/08) the bldg and no one noticed (or at least acknowledged). In case he is only not making any more posts but still reads this blog, or for other Bernies, please consider implications of these questions. Jesus Christ was a Jew. Even in those days Judaism had wandered so far from God's ideal that He often had to correct it. The attitude is still here today that faced with choosing to following Christ or beloved traditions and culture there is a dilemma. Why? Shouldn't our common identity be found in our Creator? Acts 17:26, Gal 3:28.
---Geoff on 1/1/09


I see by your name Mr. Cohan that you are Jewish. Here's my answer to your question. I believe you should become what is known as a messianic Jew. You can keep all your Jewishness and still accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah, your Messiah. This decision as you know will cost you dearly in family and friends but it will gain you heaven. Know this that the Lord Jesus Christ the son of God will welcome you with open arms. If you have not already become a believer in Lord Jesus Christ please consider doing so. Should you give up Judaism? No you should accept Christ Judaism itself and its believers will force you out from among their midst.
---mima on 12/30/08


First, all have sinned - which includes Jews. Second, the ONLY way to receive forgiveness for sin is through Christ. So if a Jew wants to experience eternal life, it can only be done though Christ.
Ro 5:16
Death through Adam and Life through Christ
... because from one sin came the judgment, resulting in condemnation, but from many trespasses came the gift, resulting in justification.
Romans
Death through Adam and Life through Christ
So then, as through one trespass there is condemnation for everyone, so also through one righteous act there is life-giving justification for everyone.

That's it - if a Jew or anyone else wants to spend eternity with God, they MUST come through Christ.
---wivv on 12/29/08


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Yahshua/Jesus did tell the D's to go out and spread the Gospel and to start at Jerusalem to convert them to the Truth.

And they still chose to persicute them, So Saul was brought down and made to see the light(Literaly Speaking)and he was sent unto them and they still refused to see the Light of the situation and persicuted him, so he was sent unto the Gentiles by Jesus to provoke them to jealousy, so he changed his Hebrew name Saul to Paul, and the rest is Gospel.

YLBD
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 12/6/08


The Bible says that Jesus is the way!
We ar saved trough faith in Jesus's grace!
If a Jew hopes to be saved he would do well to accept Jesus as his/her Saviour. There is no salvation without Jesus.
---Pierr5358 on 12/5/08


It helped me when it was pointed out...that there are no Jews.
Judean would be the word. Just because they say they are...doesn't make it so.
The New Testament (Covenant) tells us that their are two parts to the covenant. The largest part are out here among us...the other house of Israel.
saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Hebrews 8:7-9
When we understand that in fulfillment christians for the most part make up this other house mentioned. We understand the N.T. and O.T. better.
---Trav on 9/8/08


NO!
Christians wonabe Disciples
Disciples wonabe Apostle
Apostle, pick by god word!

Isa 8:14 And he shall be for a sanctuary, but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
Isa 8:15 And many among them shall stumble, and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken.
Isa 8:16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.

Act 11:26 --And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
Who will say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
---Frank on 9/6/08


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A Jew that accepts Jesus as the Messiah is still a Jew. The Bible was written by Jews and in Jewish context. The feasts, including the Sabbath, are all part of Jewish life and there is no need to give up on these wonderful things that G-d has given, not only to the Jews, but to everyone that loves the L-rd. If we give up on these wonderful blessings that G-d has provided, we give up on many wonderful blessings of live. I would love to see every Believer in Jesus celebrate these wonderful feasts as Yeshua (Jesuse) is at the center of each and everyone of them. There are some things from Judaism that are not good for anyone, even the Jews. The first believers were Jews and worshiped in a Jewish style.
---gophylann on 9/5/08


Ofcourse! I like a better way of putting that. Should Jews when God pays them a visit and tell them they are going to go to hell if they don't get forgiveness of all their sins, and then God saves them , because they cry out to Him, "I don't want to die and go to HELL, please save me"! And then so forth and so on. Yes, Jews should do this and this causes a person to be a true Christian. Amen++ Thank you Jesus for all of your HELP!
---catherine on 9/5/08


well,lets see. jesus was a ? jesus came to save the ? the ? rejected him,as many people still do today.
---tom2 on 9/5/08


They should. Jewish people withhdrew themselves from Jesus & the Apostles because they wanted an earthly king. The Apostles(Jewish)were first called Chirstians at Antioch. God gave Apostle Peter the keys to The Kingdom of Heaven. Matt 16 v's 18-19. Which is Acts 2 v's 37-40,
with other scriptures to be fallowed in order to be saved. (These are the keys to God's Salvation Plan) These God given Salvation Keys which is found in Acts 2 v's 37-40 which Fulfilled Matt 28 v's 19-20. Apostle Peter delivered these Salvation Keys on the day of Pentecost to the Jewish people FIRST & then Apostle Paul brought this Very Same Salvation Message to us gentiles later. This Salvation message is still for the Jewish people today. Thank God.
---Lawrence on 9/4/08


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Micah 6:6: "Wherewith shall I come before the LORD, and bow myself before the high God? shall I come before him with burnt offerings, with calves of a year old? 7: Will the LORD be pleased with thousands of rams, or with ten thousands of rivers of oil? shall I give my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? 8: He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good, and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?"
Whom the Lord's will says he does and does not, is he not a hypocrite? Pharisee and Scribe are not insults in and of themselves.
---Nana on 9/4/08


Bernie. GREAT question. Thank you for asking it.
Feel free to read up on the New Testiment and discern for yourself. If you have any questions about what you read, you can take it to a pastor or someone you know is non biased but faithful. Do you know what I mean? Someone who can answer your questions and help you see what lies ahead for a Christian, but not someone who's going to shrink your head and/or make you feel demeaned.
I'll say this on my side of the promised land: It's a challenge at some times but there's a certain connection I feel with God that is irreplacable. And quite wonderful. And Christ. It's a good thing.
Feel free to write me at nicoa9384 too here if you like. :D
---Nicola on 9/3/08


While the nation of Israel was blessed by God, the individual has to accept Christ as personal Savoir since He fulfilled the requirements of the law, as given by God.
Since Christ fulfilled the requirements given by God, the only way a person can fulfill the requirements is through Christ since one of the criterion is to be without sin, and only Christ met this criterion. This includes the Jew because they are also sinners. Some Jews who are Christians say they are,"completed" Jews since the law was given to them by God in the first place.
---wivv on 9/3/08


Certainly, should a sinner give up their sins and become saved? Certainly.
---Eloy on 8/30/08


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Shabbat starts soon. Thank you for your responses, good and bad. I will stay as I am. You all be the best you can be as Christians. This is my final post. Good-bye.
---bernie_cohen on 8/29/08


Jesus said, "I am the truth and the light and no man comes to the Father but by me." Either Jesus was wrong or yes, Jews need Jesus to be saved.
Brooks
---Brooks on 8/29/08


Bernie, it all depends what one is willing to call Judaism, and what is one to call Christianity. If you talk about the original judaism practised by Moses and his generation. then NO you do not. if it is the modern day with humanism infested style of Judaism, by all means get away from that. as we as born again believers need to stop following that traditionalism we call Christianity today. as Judaism has been corrupted over the centuries so has christianity been. As example: when i read the responses i can see the proof, some Christians want to "become the first son", and concider jews as the prodigal one. yet we are all equal in Christ and the only first-born is Christ.
---Andy on 8/29/08


Bernie Cohen, welcome (o: I am Bill, glad to meet you. I offer > that scripture goes for ALL of us. Jesus spoke that to Pharisees who were tithing *even their spices*, it seems, but were NOT dealing with what is so more crucial, in Moses' Law > "justice and mercy and faith." (Matthew 23:23)

And you would be right, I think, to take issue with anyone using a "hell threat" > Jesus, "when He suffered,

did not threaten,

but committed Himself to Him who judges righteously." (in 1 Peter 2:23). Jesus did talk about hell, though, and considering how Jesus suffered for us like He did on Calvary, I'd say He knew all that was worthwhile in order to save us from what He knew was waiting for us.
---Bill_bila5659 on 8/28/08


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--Bernie Cohen
Telling about the pit-falls that lead to hell is just stating the inevitable but not unavoidable fact.

We all know this even the Jews that practice Judaism. It's not a threat or a way to say "you're this & are going to end up here." A person either fits the bill or they don't. I pray that you don't.

We all come here seeking to edify one another in hopes of coming into one accord in God's Word as a result of being lead by the Holy Spirit through faith in Christ Jesus unto salvation.

Key word being "LEAD" and if we're not willing to be lead by the Holy Spirit then we'll never hear the truth in its proper contexts & feel the loving security of the Lord.
---Shawn.M.T on 8/28/08


Calling me a Pharisee and a hypocrite and threatening me with hell are such lovely approaches to me as a means to conversion. I feel so secure and loved by all of you now. Thanks from the bottom of my heart.
---bernie_cohen on 8/28/08


--Bernie Cohen:
For some reason the "Bs" from both my post got dropped. I don't know why, but I do know you name is Bernie.
---Shawn.M.T on 8/28/08


It is not a matter of them being a jew. Jesus said he came that all can have life and that certainly includes the Jews. Then there are many Jews that are christians. Being a christian is based on the fact of excepting the Lord Jesus as their personal
Savior and that alone. True he came for the Jews first and because they would not accept, he turned to the gentiles. But I am sure that does not mean that Jews can no longer be christians.
---larry on 8/28/08


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bernie,
There is a passage in the Christian Gospels that may shine light on the questions: Matthew 23:23: "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone." What does it make you think?
---Nana on 8/28/08


I have discussed this question with many leading messianic Jews and I would suggest you do the same. It is my understanding that the only change a believer in Judaism has to make is to receive the Lord Jesus Christ as the Messiah and by doing so the former Judaism believer will complete or finish his or her Judaism. Again let me urge you to attend a messianic church and inquire about this matter with a rabbi. I am not a blood Jew but I do love the messianic Jews church services.
---mima on 8/28/08


Thanks for your responses so far. I will comment after a few more. By the way, I am not Ernie. Thanks!
---bernie_cohen on 8/28/08


bernie_cohen: Can Jews who follow just Judaism believe & receive Christ Jesus as the messiah?

If they will not, is it because they feel they will lose their identity as Abraham's heirs?

If this is the case, then you should realize that they will not lose their uniqueness as Abraham's heirs of the promises of God because as stated in Gal.3:27-29

As many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.( Gal.3:27-29)
---Shawn.M.T on 8/27/08


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Certainly. We are saved through grace by faith in Jesus Christ. There is salvation in none other so that ALL must come to believe in Jesus Christ in order to be saved.
---jody on 8/27/08


Yes, everyone should become Christians. Jesus is the only way to Salvation. He is the truth, the life and the way. He is the only way!
---SusieB on 8/27/08


bernie_cohen

NO! I don't think Jews can give up Judaism to become Christians!

Judaism is the roots of Christianity. We could not have the ladder without the former. That would be like beholding a flower that withers for lack of roots.
---Shawn.M.T on 8/27/08


Yes. Acts 14:12 is a good reason:

"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."
---Bobby3 on 8/27/08


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If Jews don't get saved then they are as lost as the rest of us would be. I don't believe they need to give up all aspects of Judaism because many of them are good. The ones that don't line up with the teachings of Jesus should be abandoned.
---john on 8/27/08




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