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Maybe not: Jeremiah, Ezekiel and Hosea all describe the forsaking (adultery) ..God will not bless a land full of adultries. It is up to us if confess and forsake our adultries. God will then heal our land. If we do not move toward a faithfullnes we are doomed.
---Del on 3/1/09

Adulterate, a forgotten meaning.
Adulterate
Adjective
1. Mixed with impurities.
Verb
1. Corrupt, debase, or make impure by adding a foreign or inferior substance, often by replacing valuable ingredients with inferior ones, "adulterate liquor".
---Trav on 3/2/09


Maybe not: Jeremiah, Ezekiel and Hosea all describe the forsaking (adultery) to God is compared to the adultery taking place with our marriages. Jesus says that a remmarriage is adultery while the first partner is living. Adulters do not make it into the kingdom. God will not bless a land full of adultries. It is up to us if confess and forsake our adultries. God will then heal our land. If we do not move toward a faithfullnes we are doomed.
---Del on 3/1/09


With God on our side, whom shall I fear? Jehovah is my light and my salvation, Whom shall I fear? Jehovah is the strength of my life, Of whom shall I be afraid?
Psalm 27:1-3

no matter what happens due to mans mistakes, God is in control..He is my refuge..Jesus will protect me.

He shall not be afraid of evil tidings: His heart is fixed, trusting in Jehovah.
Psalm 112:6-8

Be not afraid of sudden fear, Neither of the desolation of the wicked, when it cometh:
Proverbs 3:24-26

1 Peter 3:11
And let him turn away from evil, and do good, Let him seek peace, and pursue it.
---paul on 2/26/09


It's not the best research to type into a search engine a conclusion you have already reached.

Enter death camps in the U.S......
you will find articles by those convinced.
the U.S. has death camps waiting to punish...somebody.

Enter Elvis is Alive and guess what?
You read pages created by Elvis fans who find him here, there and everywhere.

Enter Milk is Poison you will surely find that our health is endangered by the milk we drink, cows milk and other dairy products,

The internet absolutely does NOT distinguish between verifiable fact and pure balogna!
To answer questions on the above, one should search: Death Camps, Elvis and Milk. Compare the views of all "experts".
---Donna66 on 2/23/09


America is headed for a lot more than a depression.
---catherine on 2/22/09




we shouldn't be troubled by the events in the world
when these things happen
look up your redemption draws near
---christian on 2/21/09


Ashley, What did George Bush do about the 700 camps?
---Janze on 2/11/09
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Ashley your post is true ...so few are willing to accept this

most of these camps can house MANY MANY thousands

George Bush didn't create these camps ....been around LONG before Sept 11

USE CRITICAL THINKING USA HAS 700+ prison camps around country that are ARMED with military personnel EVERY hour of EVERY DAY and these camps ARE empty

LOGICAL conclusion is these will be used for citizens of US

those in denial conclude these camps are for "all those terrorists" media sensationalized and programs sheeple to be in fear of because they believe everything they are told WITHOUT QUESTION
---Rhonda on 2/11/09


Ashley, What did George Bush do about the 700 camps?
---Janze on 2/11/09


Rhonda: many here will only believe what they want to believe and ignore the facts. The Patriot Act was enacted for one reason. It gives the government authority to impose martial law at any moment it chooses. Clinton approved death camps all over the U.S. There are now over 700 camps with the ability to gas and murder billions of people. It can be verified by typing in death camps in the U.S. Christians deceive themselves, if they believe they are above what will happen, because evil men control governments, not the righteous. You are correct and thousands of pastors and ministers have been deceiving christians into a false sense of security for many years, by teaching doctrines of man, not God and it is seen through 10,000 various churches.
---ashley on 2/10/09


Amen Bryan G~ That is exactly right.
---Anne on 2/8/09




All countries come to an end. They always have and always will. According to the New Testament, even Christ's kingdom will eventually end.
---JohnnyB on 2/8/09


Depression?! Our country is headed for destruction, if we don't repent! God is about to humble America the proud!
---BryanG on 2/8/09


Rhoda--I don't know who you are so angry at, but it seems you want to pick a fight with somebody. It isn't going to be with me. I read the Patriot Act and didn't come to the same conclusions you did. I was somewhat interested in you explaining your viewpoint...but not anymore.
---Donna66 on 1/22/09


Without that explanation, there is nothing to discuss
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Donna if you cannot comprehend what you paraphrased back to me from my post you are absolutely right there is nothing to discuss because you fail to understand how government SHOULD work verses HOW it CRIMINALLY worked the day Patriot Act was "approved" ...and if you FAIL to understand how government works then you would most definitely have no clue what the Patriot Act represents

if you haven't already figured it out the banks were "bailed" out but loans are still almost non-existent ...the pot is getting filled with an economy that is going to burst ...Patriot Act is a cover - IT WILL be used internally
---Rhonda on 1/22/09


The question you asked me was:>> when you can "rationally" explain to me why Congress voted PatriotAct in ...a 350+ page document (created many years prior to 911) within 5 minutes AND less than 45 days after 911 WITH NO DEBATE then I would be happy to go line by line with you<<.
If it wasn't just a rhetorical question..how would I know the answer to that? Therefore, I guess you won't explain what part of the Act you consider so dangerous and why. Without that explanation, there is nothing to discuss.
---Donna66 on 1/21/09


The question you asked me was:>> when you can "rationally" explain to me why Congress voted PatriotAct in ...a 350+ page document (created many years prior to 911) within 5 minutes AND less than 45 days after 911 WITH NO DEBATE then I would be happy to go line by line with you<<.
If it wasn't just a rhetorical question..how would I know the answer to that? Therefore, I guess you won't explain what part of the Act you consider so dangerous and why. Without that explanation, there is nothing to discuss.
---Donna66 on 1/21/09


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The depression is going to be global - I have no special sources, just my feelings.
---frances008 on 1/21/09


....when pressed, you are unwilling to discuss what the Patriot Act actually says. Since you brought the subject up, the burden is on you to explain your thinking. It is not up to me to explain why I don't understand your viewpoint
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FUNNY "DONNA" when "pressed" with the questions I asked you dodge and evade (just like the government) you swallow up the Patriot Act and believe you comprehend it YET the most compelling questions of HOW it got "enacted" you come up SHORT

the BURDON is on YOU ...ignorance is BLISS for the MASSES which is why YOU CANNOT answer my questions
---Rhonda on 1/21/09


The Patriot Act is ONLY about ENACTING martial law this is possible due to the 14th Amendment

freedom today is an illusion

when economy FULLY collapses RIOTS will begin and majority of US will be in prison camps

ministers & priests of "christian" religious organizations along with military national guard police and even gangs will be rounding up Americans for these camps with more than 600 in the US ...ministers are being trained today ...many police department HIRE criminals today

what happened in Germany WILL be happening here in the US on a GRANDER and more horrifying scale
---Rhonda on 1/21/09


The Patriot Act allows any citizen in the whole world to be taken (kidnapped) by American agents and tortured in whatever country America chooses to send them to. Obama has decided that Gitmo in Cuba is so horrendously abbhorrant that it should be closed IN A YEAR'S TIME. I think he should be put in and kept there for the year. After all, he is one of the illuminati. What he thinks good enough for others he should not worry about enduring himself. The Patriot Act allows the illuminati to track the movement of the world's citizens on planes and if they want to, to put a bomb on board the plane.
---frances008 on 1/21/09


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Rhonda-- (please no "sweetie" or "dear" in CAPS, the name, Donna, will suffice) the word "stupid" was my summery of your suggestion, as follows:
>>go back to your regular programming and your mind numbing boob tube entertainment to DULL your senses<<

You have no idea what I (or the rest of those who read this blog) watch on television. And when pressed, you are unwilling to discuss what the Patriot Act actually says. Since you brought the subject up, the burden is on you to explain your thinking. It is not up to me to explain why I don't understand your viewpoint.
---Donna66 on 1/21/09


God gave everyone a brain. If they chose to plug it into the television and be brainwashed, that is their sin (idol worship). If they chose to get out of the beast system and fight on God's team, they will get their reward in due time, even if they have to die first. We are going to DIE anyway. Either aged 80 plus with a RFID chip in our right hand (or forehead) or we will die in a freak accident, or by a slow or fast method that the illuminati choose. In other words, it is 'death plus hell afterwards' or 'death plus heaven afterwards'. You get to choose for yourself. With the inevitablility of death - and the ignorant will be the first to go - we have nothing to lose and our freedom to gain if we fight the evil ones.
---frances008 on 1/21/09


We have a choice, or will do in the very near future. Obey Satan and worship the Antichrist or die! In order to prevent this scenario, it might be worth RISKING death now, and maybe living in freedom later, or perhaps dying now and leaving freedom for others, or finally, perhaps being killed now and there being no freedom but at least you and your children (and God) knows that you did your best to expose and fight Satan from controlling our planet. Whose side you are on is up to you. There are warnings all over the Bible to choose between the devil and God, between evil and good. God hopes you choose good.
---frances008 on 1/21/09


What is to take place on earth is under the complete control and direction of God. As a Christian, you should not worry about what is about to happen, but you bicker about who is right and who is wrong. You study man's activities and point your finger on whose to blame - the government, illuminati and the other so-called secret societies. These people think they know what's good for the world, but, in reality, there is a greater power that is pulling at their strings - Satan. And they don't realize it. And what man can fight against Satan?

Don't get wrapped up in the activities of man for whatever doom is upon America, even the world, cry out to God for his protection. What more do you need than doing the two commandments Jesus spoke of.
---Steveng on 1/21/09


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But Instead of insulting me for my stupidity, why don't you explain your views rationally, referring to the exact portions of the Act in question?
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Donna sweetie with all due respect DEAR if you actually need me to spell it out for you line by line what the Patriot Act represents why would I personally do that for you when the Congress of the United States of America didn't either and THAT'S THEIR JOB

when you can "rationally" explain to me why Congress voted PatriotAct in ...a 350+ page document (created many years prior to 911) within 5 minutes AND less than 45 days after 911 WITH NO DEBATE then I would be happy to go line by line with you
---Rhonda on 1/20/09


BTW Donna please don't put words into my posts that don't exist ...because it is YOUR "stupidity" as YOU labeled YOURSELF

stupidity and ignorance are not one in the same as I'm sure you know stupid is a condition ignorance is a choice - check it
---Rhonda on 1/20/09


Rhonda,
As I stated in my last post (had you read it), I just finished reading the Patriot Act and do not see what you see in it. I'm familiar with the wire-tapping controversy. But Instead of insulting me for my stupidity, why don't you explain your views rationally, referring to the exact portions of the Act in question?
---Donna66 on 1/20/09


If the Patriot Act is antiterrorist, why did they not round up all the criminals from Dick Cheney down to Bush, Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powel etc. etc. for bombing the twin towers and bringing in a psych ops team to take over CNN and make it appear that a couple of planes had crashed into the towers and Pentagon and in Pennsylvania (without leaving a single bit of compatible wreckage and melting the steel girders which were made to withstand several such planes going into them at the same time.)

What about the criminals bombing babies in Palestine?

I get it. We, the people, are the criminals. They, the cabal that cause all the misery, are the good guys. They make the rules to keep us enslaved and fearful of them. I get it.
---frances008 on 1/19/09


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Rhonda-- With all due respect,
The Patriot Act is an anticrime and antiterrorist legislation
*****

Donna

GET REAL either you are seriously duped or work with the BEAST system who promotes it

Have you read it by chance? try sifting through all chaotic ambiguity ...it ties into the 14th amendment

Patriot Act is horrifying you can wake up to the realities...

OR you can blissfully go back to sleep believing the media as it spoon feeds you and the masses all its lies as you go back to your regular programming and your mind numbing boob tube entertainment to DULL your senses
---Rhonda on 1/19/09


Was the "patriot act" approved by the houses of Congress? It was!! And you might want to remember that Adolf Hitler was voted in (legitimately and legally) in Germany.
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Perfect analogy ...Patriot Act was not "enacted" into law because of 911 ...pure ignorance to believe ...humanly impossible 350+ pages of legislation that amends 50+ federal statues was crafted, written, and fully edited by Congress in 45 days!!!

Patriot Act was written more than 20 years ago

WAKE UP AMERICA you have been duped ...sold to slavery ...to be FULLY ENACTED when the time is right ...Obama NWO magic as Henry Kissinger says

America isn't headed to depression it is in the beginnings of SLAVERY
---Rhonda on 1/19/09


---Steveng my statement had to do with you using the word fool. Kindly read the complete statement again.
---mima on 1/18/09


Was the "patriot act" approved by the houses of Congress? It was!! And you might want to remember that Adolf Hitler was voted in (legitimately and legally) in Germany.
---mima on 1/18/09


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mima: "That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause..."

I'm not angry, I do what I do out of love. Thirty five years ago I was in her position, but I found the error of my way. I want her, frances, to get back on the road to the Kingdom of God. She has taken a detour and want her to see the error she is making. She is consumed by the activities of man instead of God. Her eternal life depends on someone, whether it's me or someone else. I want everyone to go to heaven.

Besides, why are you protecting her? What she is doing is NOT biblical. It is written that even the Christians will tolerate what ungodly people do. Are you siding with her?
---Steveng on 1/18/09


Rhonda-- With all due respect,
The Patriot Act is an anticrime and antiterrorist legislation enacted soon after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. The law was approved overwhelmingly by both chambers of Congress, the Senate and the House of Representatives, and signed into law by President George W. Bush on October 26, 2001. Check the record.
---Donna66 on 1/17/09


Rhonda,
Also please explain HOW the Patriot Act will allow Martial Law without the signature of the President. I just finished reading the Act and I couldn't see it.

The Constitution gives the President or Secretary of Defense power to proclaim martial law when, due to actual war or natural disaster, courts cannot function.
Martial law may be also limited to a single location as it was in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.

Martial law, of course doesn't always work. The King of England declared martial law in the city of Boston after the Boston tea party. But the American Revolution ultimately nullified his authority.
---Donna66 on 1/17/09


Steveng, I know you love to bash me (Thank you Mima for your support) but what is the difference between me saying get what food you may need to have in the house in the coming financial collapse, and you saying don't get ready, you just need to run away to the hills. Jesus was telling people then to prepare to run to the hills because Jerusalem was going to be destroyed. In our case we may have six children and a pregnant woman involved. It would be better to hide out, having ALREADY relocated to the mountains. If not possible, you ought to make your home safe and sound, put the appropriate supports against the door because we know they are coming after patriots. In other words you should carefully examine Jesus's words.
---frances008 on 1/17/09


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To ---frances what does this Scripture refer to if not a pre-tribulation rapture?
In 1Cor. 15:51-53, ....we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump."
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Christ returns at THE LAST TRUMP (it is announced not a secret) the time when tribulation is finished Christ defeats Satan to RULE earth begining 1000 year millennium

antichrist doctrine of "rapture" many believe they are "whisked away" from the tribulation by foolishly using a verse that describes Christs RETURN to earth when he changes all who ever lived and died in him to spirit begotten sons and daughters reigning with him on earth ...the LAST TRUMP is the END of the tribulation
---Rhonda on 1/17/09


To-- Steveng based on Matthew 5:22 I would ask you to be careful about calling other people names. This is your statement to frances.

"Frances, you are such a fool, a scare-monger, and wise in your own eyes. "

Matthew 5:22 says,"But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire"
---mima on 1/17/09


Rhonda - We are not under Martial Law. Martial law makes the National Guard the law enforcement agency for civilians.
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Donna REREAD my post ...I did not say we are under martial law now I posted that the Patriot Act IS HOW martial law will be swiftly enacted in US without ANY need for the President or any government official to "sign" anything

US is dumbed down in their blissful state of ignorance about The Patriot Act

and you demonstrate your ignorance in your post ...Congress did not "pass" it in ...THERE WAS NO DEBATE

Patriot Act is how the US will become enslaved ...how soon depends on when the New Word Order begins
---Rhonda on 1/16/09


mima: "Today America' business leaders are so greedy that they have outsourced many many jobs."

If you owned a business, wouldn't you find wasy to cut costs to increase profits to hire more people?

"Globalization is a major contributor to the economic catastrophe now falling on America."

What reason will you give when Jesus reigns and people from other the nations will have jobs in other countries?
---Steveng on 1/16/09


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frances008: "Steveng, you now agree that the future is full of peril. Before you would not admit [it]..."

Frances, you are such a fool, a scare-monger, and wise in your own eyes. What do you mean "I now agree." With you? Hogwash. I've known for the past 40 years that the world will be like no other time in history. Every imaginable evil - the Holcoust, the days of Noah, wars, volcanoes, people rising up against each other, etc. - in history will be condensed into a few short years. Just as Scriptures says it will. You could never imagine in your wildest nightmares what is about to happen.

But there is a very huge difference between you and I... (next post)
---Steveng on 1/16/09


Fear has gripped the entire world. Even Christians today fear about what is about to happen. And you, frances, encourage this fear because you fear man. You spread lies, rumors and conspiracy theories (whether they are true or not). You spend too much time documenting the activities of man.

As for me, I know what is about to happen. I know the fears people have even when they don't admit it. I draw out what they are afraid to say. I help people realized these fears and comfort them in the name of Jesus. This is just one of my greatest God given gifts - listening to people and comforting them in the glory of God.

Do an online bibles search for "one another," "each other," and "encourag."
---Steveng on 1/16/09


frances008: "Therefore we should be stocking up. Take your money out and buy stuff: food, hygiene products, soap, fuel, guns, bullets, torches, blankets, replacement clothes, survival stuff."

This is what I've been telling you. You fear the world so much that you tell people to horde food and supplies. Whatever happened to trusting God for your needs? An event is about to happen where Christians are told to flee to the mountains and not to return home for their belongings. Unfortunately, Christians today don't have the faith strong enough to trust God that much because they have the knowledge of God, but deny his power.

So, Christians, put on the armour of God and pray for you protection.
---Steveng on 1/16/09


Mima, that does not mention whether the tribulation will be in the past or the present when the Last Trump sounds. I have found numerous verses that put the rapture at the very end of the tribulation, and none that put it in the beginning or the middle. Sorry, I am not going to list them for you as I have a busy schedule but you could start with Matt 24.
---frances008 on 1/16/09


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To ---frances what does this Scripture refer to if not a pre-tribulation rapture?
In 1Cor. 15:51-53, Paul says-

"Behold, I show you a 'Mystery', we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump."
---mima on 1/16/09


Tom2, you are deluded. The rapture is not secret nor does it happen before the tribulation. That is why we are warned not to take on the mark of the beast. That is why the gospel of Matthew chapter 25 tells us to keep our lanterns supplied with oil from the suppliers, and not to give to those who did not think to buy their own. The bridegroom is tarrying until the end. Then with a LOUD trumpet blast that will be heard by the whole world, Jesus will come down to get his bride.
---frances008 on 1/15/09


if all social,and financial services collaspe you will be listening too the anti christ like the rest of the world,and will have missed the rapture.
---tom2 on 1/15/09


Rhonda - We are not under Martial Law. Martial law makes the National Guard the law enforcement agency for civilians. The President is given the power to declare martial law in times of extreme emergency.(I can't recall when, or if, martial law has ever been declared.) The Patriot act is not the same thing... in no way that restrictive. It was approved by Congress. Neither one is meant to be permanent. Neither is illegal.

I'd like to see ANYBODY enforce any day of rest in the US! Won't happen.
---Donna66 on 1/14/09


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Eloy, you are correct. The businesses will either go under through lack of customers, increasing the unemployment rate, or they will raise prices to cover their costs. If they raise prices only some customers will be able to afford to live. Therefore we should be stocking up. Take your money out and buy stuff: food, hygiene products, soap, fuel, guns, bullets, torches, blankets, replacement clothes, survival stuff. We don't know how deep the recession is going to go. Once truckers lose jobs, shops no longer have the stock coming in, so they run out of goods. Everything comes to a halt. Money becomes worthless as you take it in a barrow to buy a loaf of bread. Buying gold is useless.
---frances008 on 1/14/09


When people stop buying the economy suffers. Example: You own a store of 30 employees and usually make $15,000 a week, then suddenly customers stop buying (for having fear or for whatever reason), and now you are selling only $1,000 of goods a week. When this continues for long, you are forced to lay-off 20 employees. And these unemployed people now have no income, so they will not buy anything either, and it goes on and on. lit.Hb: "There is one who scatters yet increases more: but a withholder of prosperity surely to poverty." Proverbs 11:24.
---Eloy on 1/14/09


Steveng, you now agree that the future is full of peril. Before you would not admit as much and you make out I am scare-mongering, full of 'conspiracies'. If you follow the money trail it goes back to the sinking of the Titanic to create the FRS. If you follow the war plans they go back to Albert Pike the Freemason and traitor to America whose statue stands outside the Supreme Court in Washington DC. These are his plans for three world wars and the rise of the New World Order. If you go to the origins of the freemasons you come to the Jesuits. They link the Knights Templar to the modern day Satanists. No, we are not all in it together. Some will get destroyed by God in a moment. There idol worshipping will never be forgiven.
---frances008 on 1/14/09


we have become an unindustrialized nation.steel mills closing everywhere,no more tvs,shoes,very few large factories, most started when gm went to canada in the early 70s,hasn,t stopped since.
---tom2 on 1/14/09


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no the United States is headed toward slavery ...remember the Patriot Act officially ENDED FREEDOM ...most are too NUMB and too concerned with the cares of the world to notice that freedom is an illusion

The Patriot Act allows martial law ...law enforcement military and RELIGIOUS organizations priests/pastors/ministers are being TRAINED on martial law

once martial law begins ALL citizens in US no longer have rights ... to be ENSLAVED by the very people who "serve and protect" today

SUNday will soon be the official day of rest to be ENFORCED just like it was back in the day when rcc exterminated millions

all these things MUST come to pass for Christ to return as Lord of Lords and King of Kings Matt 6:13
---Rhonda on 1/13/09


Unemployment during the Great depression of the 30's reached 25%...we've got a ways to go. But Obama seems bent on getting us there. He wants to cripple private enterprise and investment, which not only provide jobs, but actually cause the GNP to grow! No, he'll add hundreds of government jobs...all of which are supported by taxpayer money! As if the bail-outs aren't enough.
---Donna66 on 1/13/09


Mima, the elite of your society have sold you out and are planning to make you slaves. The prerequisite for this was to make you unemployed, dependant on the government, prior to the next step which will be to give half of you government jobs which is more or less communism. Everyone either works for the government or they are going to have very hard times ahead. To create jobs they may bring in detention centres which is a lucrative business. You just have to invent a new enemy of the state and round up the flocks. To be safe from this you have to belong to the beast system.
---frances008 on 1/12/09


America will survive but not as before.
While there are many reasons for our fall, from the economic point of view, the major reason is lack of jobs. Very few Ph.D. economist understand that the money must be pumping in(jobs or employment) at the base of the economic pyramid. Today America' business leaders are so greedy that they have outsourced many many jobs. These were the very jobs that were needed by the hourly worker. And because these jobs cannot come back this economy can never return to the position it once had. Globalization is a major contributor to the economic catastrophe now falling on America.
---mima on 1/12/09


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Most of the people of this world will see The E.U rise as the Economic power of the world, and as many nations of the world start failing/falling, Well, Let's just say that the Day in which that, the day's MUST be shortened to save mankind "Lest he destroy himself from the face of the Earth" are upon us, Soon man shall seek to destroy one another as it is written in Scripture...
Praise, Glory & Honor be unto the creator of all things and has chosen man to be his children, Come and partake of that which is given freely to those that seek & love him.
YLBD
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 10/9/08


A better question is: Is the world headed toward a depression? According to biblical prophesy it will be a time like never before, worse than the days of Noah. The whole world is in God's plan of salvation not just America. We are all in this together.
---Steveng on 10/8/08


Danielle--

Why do you say... >It was Wall Street greed...the rich holding two thirds of the wealth and not sharing it with the people< ?
Are the rich obligated to share their wealth with the people? NOT AT ALL...Only under Socialism ... not in the United States.


The GREED, to me, was the gigantic bonuses paid to CEOs, many millions. Golden parachutes when they left the company.. more millions..even if they they were fired! THEN , they ask the government (We, taxpayers) to bail them out. Big banks made risky loans thinking that the government (WE, the taxpayers) would guarantee the loans.

Homeowners who bought houses they couldn't afford..want the government (we taxpayers) to pay their debt.ENOUGH!
---Donna66 on 10/8/08


It was Wall Street greed...the rich holding two thirds of the wealth and not sharing it with the people,that have brought this calamity upon us.It was not George Bush.The president hasn't anymore power than the constitution allows.It was "insider trading" among the big names who won't be mentioned here.They wanted gold fixtures in thier bathroms,took elaborate vacations and took advantage of any shady deal available. In effect, they took advantage of us all.Remember the old adage,when Wall St. sneezes,the world catches cold! The Tribulation is upon us.We must grow closer to God.The Word says:cursed is the man who makes flesh his arm.Put your trust not in men,for in them is no hope.
---Danelle on 10/7/08


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Yes, we are already in a depression! Congress has only put a band-aid on a deep wound that will not be healed.Watch the European Union.Out of that many headed beast,shall arise the false prophet,who shall arise speaking dark sentences and shall make war PEACEFULLY.Many will be deceived into taking his "mark" (trading with the euro) or will be denied a livilihood,the inability to buy goods that America needs. But, take heart,we are called by God's Name (Israel)He said"fear not,thou worm Jaccob,you shall be helped out of it." You will be tried by fire,but he that overcomes, shall inherit all things.
---Danelle on 10/6/08


Augie, Bless you, Brother. Here's the scene. Read Revelation 18, Jeremiah 50-51, and somewhere in Ezekiel 38-39. GOD has heard your cry, among other Saints, wanting a Presidential leader who has GOD Values at heart. So, with Chuck Baldwin and Darrel Castle, He has answered that prayer. But, these two men are more than likely not going to win. The "winner" will come from among the candidates getting the most media exposure. Because, GOD isn't going to give the U.S.A. what she needs, He's going to let her have what she WANTS. GOD has been slowly been edged out of this Country. In His place are the gods of money and sinful pleasures. He is bringing Judgment, and sooner than we may think.
---Gordon on 10/6/08


Augie, Pt.2, Those Bible Verses aforementioned refer to the United States of America. We are the modern day Babylon. GOD says to America, in effect, "You don't want Me and My Values, Ameerica? Then I will give you exactly what you want, a leader who will indulge your ungodliness. We, as Saints, must vote for the "man after GOD's own Heart, and then the "blood" will not be on His people's hands when the ungodly one is elected.
---Gordon on 10/6/08


As the HOLY BIBLE says every christians will face troubles.therefore we should have faith on The GOD, HIS Son JESUS CHRIST and the Holy Spirit.
---Dina on 10/5/08


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Gordon:

Thanks for your encouraging comment. I have gotten so "sick and tired" of hearing about the same old bad news from our politicians.

I believe that GOD would like us to give someone else the opportunity to lead the nation.

We'll see who GOD selects to lead America!
---Augie on 10/1/08


Augie, Check into Charles "Chuck" Baldwin, and running mate Darrel Castle. They're also running for President and V.P., respectively, (though you wouldn't know it, according to the media.) They're in the "Constitution Party" and Baldwin is a man after GOD's own Heart. GOD has lifted him up for this rebellious Country's "Last Chance". He has a slim chance of winning, but, the point is, is to vote with a good and clean conscience before the LORD. To vote for someone who REALLY has GOD's Values at heart. For, even if our vote does not win in the World, it will count before the LORD. And He will regard it during the "Judgment Day of His Saints". YAHUVEH Bless you!
---Gordon on 10/1/08


Many things will change about "America". The North American Union means that "America" will become a 'sweet memory'. "Legality" (the penal code) may no longer be something that lawyers are familiar with.

Look up this article...
"US To Declare October Economic Emergency, Suspend Elections"

The issue that we really should be concerned with no longer seems to be the financial condition of the U.S., but the existence of it.

Come. Lord Jesus, come.
---more_excellent_way on 10/1/08


I, too, am disappointed in Bush. He and the Republican Congress really "lost their way" as John McCain says. It seems they turned their backs on the conservative values many of us expected when we voted them in.(However, Bush would have to have more power than any mortal in history, to be responsible for everything he's blamed for!)

Recently,He and the Democrats wanted to
take the easy way out...easy for THEM... and ram a "bailout" through Congress. But, thankfully, the Republicans have started to grow a spine again and fight for their values.It gives me hope, though the final bill will still make no one happy. I'm not ready to consign the nation to a hopeless depression just yet.
---Donna66 on 9/30/08


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And what if America doesn't survive, what then? Will we become Canadian? Will we sell all the nukes, to whom? What about the other world economies that rely on our greed, the Nikkei index has already dropped significantly. The demise of America would be financially catastrophic to the global economy. I am a Christian first and an American second however I am an American and I would rather remain one until my demise.
---TIMOTHY on 9/30/08


Some people are headed for depression because they have their faith, hope and trust in the things of this world which are temporal and will all pass away.

Some people have joy and peace because their faith, hope, and trust is in Christ who is eternal and will never pass away.
---Rob on 9/29/08


God's COVENANT changed, but He Himself has not. The principle in Exodus 20:5 is that the sons are guilty of their own sins, NOT the father. The father's INIQUITIES (failures) may be a contributing factor/reason for what the son's do, but the son's remain guilty for their own sins. God will SEE/observe/visit how the failures of the father effect the sons (future generations), but will not clear the guilty sons of their own sins.

Exodus 20:5
"visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children".

Exodus 34:7
"keeping steadfast love for thousands, [and also] forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin" (this has been done through Jesus).


BUSH is guilty, no one else.
---more_excellent_way on 9/29/08


A Parable:

There was a bank robbery. Some of the police and judges were in on the job. The robbers and those who had sworn to protect us from them got rich, while all the hard working folks who put their life savings in the bank lost everything. But, the guilty were never brought to justice. Instead, the poor folks who had lost everything were FORCED to pay back the bank for its loss.

Sound familiar?
---jerry6593 on 9/29/08


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Let us start doing what is written in the Bible. Read the following scriptures: 2Ch7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.1Ti 2:1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, [and] giving of thanks, be made for all men, 1Ti 2:2 For kings, and [for] all that are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. The church is the salt we determine what is going to happen by praying.
---Don on 9/28/08


Thank You FRAN: It seems my words Hit home base.My mind is at peace with my calling in life, of which all has been as a CATHOLIC in His service.I am not a hopper,grass or otherwise.with regards to your 2cent prize, its inscription it bears, is not in accordance with your writings, then it has no value also:-(Change and work with the same zeal,that you serve your present master Darwin.
---MIC on 9/27/08


Pastor Herb:

I voted for George W. Bush in 2000 and 2004. I'm disappointed in his leadership or lack there of. I feel that I am guilty of murder because my votes enabled President Bush to send 4,000+ soldiers to die in Iraq. John McCain would probably be George W. Bush II.

I don't believe in abortion. That is murder too. Just like sending soldiers to needlessly die in Iraq. I don't like Barack Obama's values if they are not pleasing to GOD.

I have to confess than I'm no better than any of these guys. I'm not sure who to vote for.

I'm not sure who would want to inherit the bit mess than was created by the current Republican administration.

Any comments, words of wisdom, etc.?


---Augie on 9/27/08


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