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Are Wedding Vows Biblical

Are the wedding vows in the Bible?

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//Yes, as a Covenanted wife, Heb 8:8-10// Yes Israel is the covenant wife
Matt.25:10 Christ speaking to the disciples of Israel.(Rom 15:8)
//Resurection: 12 nations//
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!2 Apostles to Israels 12 tribes
1 Apostle to the Church the boC
No mystery now, since it was revealed to Paul
---michael_e on 11/26/14


The relationship for the saints today is that as members of Christs body, not as a covenanted wife.
Find out the difference between the marriage language for Israel and the mystery about the church, Christs' body.
---michael_e on 11/26/14

Yes, as a Covenanted wife, Heb 8:8-10. But, no mystery now. Except man-made.
The first Covenant was a marriage...the second is as well. The "ekklesia" gathered ones are the redeemed, "ten virgins" body of Israel in the second covenant. Waiting on the Bridegroom.
Mat_25:10 while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: the door was shut.
Resurection: 12 nations go through the 12 gates judged by 12 apostles.
---Trav on 11/26/14


The covenant marriage language throughout the Bible refers to Israel and Jerusalem. The relationship for the saints today is that as members of Christs body, not as a covenanted wife.
Follow the study through the prophets as God espoused, married, divorced, and promised a future marriage to faithful Israel. Find out the difference between the marriage language for Israel and the mystery about the church, Christs' body.
---michael_e on 11/26/14


I can't find Wedding vows in the Bible ...
---michael_e on 11/24/14

Marriage "Covenant"/Vows. Old and New. The entire Bible is regarding marriage/divorce/remarriage of GOD with Israel.
Eze 16:8...looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love, I spread my skirt over thee, covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, thou becamest mine.
Jer 31:32...which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 3:14 Turn, O backsliding children, saith the LORD, for I am married unto you: ...
Isa 54:5 thy Maker is thine husband, LORD of hosts is his name, thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel, God of the whole earth ...
---Trav on 11/25/14


//and a writ of divorce is gonna cost you at least 400x more.
---aka on 11/24/14 //
would be very difficult at this stage
---michael_e on 11/24/14




thanks cluny...its little things like that that can add so much more understanding of things which are unknown to us.
---aka on 11/24/14


\\and a writ of divorce is gonna cost you at least 400x more.
---aka on 11/24/1\\

What was unusual at the time about Moses's requiring a bill of divorcement from the husband is that the repudiated wife had to have a physical document stating this.

Up till that time, an unwanted wife was simply sent back to her father's family.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/24/14


I can't find Wedding vows in the Bible or the marriage license that you pay your state for ---michael_e on 11/24/14

and a writ of divorce is gonna cost you at least 400x more.
---aka on 11/24/14


I can't find Wedding vows in the Bible or the marriage license that you pay your state for
---michael_e on 11/24/14


Richard, where did you read that (about the blood covenant)?
---Rita_H on 11/22/14




My wife and I got married in june. When we got to the vows, I didn't promise her anything.

I told that her that i WILL, take her, to be my wife, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better or for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish,

I wouldn't say til death do us part.
---aka on 11/21/14


I have asked myself the same question and the Bible answers I find are Jesus' words, Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, Do not break your oath, but fulfill to the Lord the vows you have made. But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all." (Matthew 5:33-4) "It is better not to marry." (Matthew 19:10) "It is good not to marry." (1 Corinthians 7:1) More, I doubt that Adam and Eve ever exchanged vows, yet they are pronounced ONE, and 1 Corinthians 6:16 reaffirms this. Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, The two will become one flesh. Wedding vows are not Biblical, but arranged marriages are:)
---sin5694 on 11/21/14


\\ Wedding vows are a "Blood Covenant" with God. that is why a "Virgin" bleeds the first time when marriage is consumated the way God intended.\\

Except for women whose hymen has been eroded by tampon use or other factors, have had it removed surgically (usually an imperforate or cribiform hymen that prohibits menstrual discharge), or the few who simply were never born with one to start with.

Since the only other female mammal born with a hymen is the horse, can you tell us how this fits in with God's intentions?

But to answer the original question, wedding vows are NOWHERE in the Bible.
---Cluny on 10/21/09


Wedding vows are a "Blood Covenant" with God. that is why a "Virgin" bleeds the first time when marriage is consumated the way God intended. God says till death do you part!
Virginity is the most precious thing there is in this world! Women! Wake up!!!!!
---Richard on 10/21/09


James 5:12 But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea, and your nay, nay, lest ye fall into condemnation.

There is always a price for any oath. I'm still paying the "earthly" price for my "vow", and though God has forgiven me that sin -- my ex-wife has not. I am hopeful she will be forgiven of God, though she continues to judge me. And I remain unmarried... that we mght remain one flesh... in God's eyes.
---BruceB on 2/12/09


Trav:
found to contradict common sense, justify it anyway by saying "Well, God because he is God" (and can do anything). By such reasoning, anyone could read between the lines and rationalize any theory at all.

(Genesis doesn't say Barney the Purple Dinosaur was on the Ark, but God could have put him there if he wanted ...
---StrongAxe on 10/20/08

Missed this one Axe. Sorry.
Barney...was witty of u.
Would you say that Barney's seed was on the Ark?
I agree with your logic, and it is exactly why I look at or worry for the answer that I personally need to my questions. There was no World Wide Flood. I have proven this to MY satisfaction. Jesus was placed in the womb of Mary by GOD. Explain that.
---Trav on 2/11/09


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**He also said never leave your husband or wife except for adultery.**

Where did you get that idea? Jesus said there would be GREAT rewards for those who left spouse or family for His sake.

Markk 10:29-30

And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's,

But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions, and in the world to come eternal life.
---katavasia on 2/10/09


No, but there references in which Jesus said that we should keep our vows. He also said never leave your husband or wife except for adultery. Maybe you want to know this: God said for this reason shall a man leave his father and mother and they two shall be one flesh. Friends and relatives witness the marriage and listen to the vows so that later neither one can say "I never married you."
---Betty on 2/10/09


Yes mic you are so right and I ask for your forgiveness also if I sounded harsh too.
I thought I had that. But I did not. I pray that while I am out here that God lets me run into the man He has for me. I am very cautious now but I hope not too cautious so I don't miss what God has for me. I think that is the hardest thing about wanting a mate. But then Paul does say He wished we could all live as he did, celebate because of things like this happening. I feel though that as long as God is in control He will have good things for me.
I will say that for a long time I blamed myself for the way my ex was. But I know better now.
God bless you mic
---ginger on 10/21/08


Ginger :-I May be direct , But I do not deliberately offend especially a lady .If I have caused you Hurt, I apologise but that was not my intent.I respect very tenderly all Women Folk who to me are representative of Gods missing attributes in man.I am glad you are out of that situtation but you can find communion in some one who will complement your wishes. But not your needs.Forgive me, but this is how I read the cards.Most often we enter into a Marriage contract not seeing the Pitfalls.You are a beautiful woman with much Potential. God found you a way out.Now it is up to you to chart the course of Your life To bring your ship safe to the harbour of His heart and Arms always extended on the Cross of His Glory.with the love we share in Him.
---Mic on 10/21/08


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Trav:

It's one thing to look at something that is in the Bible that doesn't seem to make sense (and realize that our wisdom is different from God's wisdom).

It is something else entirely to take something that is NOT in the Bible at all, but merely a result of personal conjecture and interpretation, and when it's found to contradict common sense, justify it anyway by saying "Well, God could do it because he is God" (and can do anything). By such reasoning, anyone could read between the lines and rationalize any theory at all.

(Genesis doesn't say Barney the Purple Dinosaur was on the Ark, but God could have put him there if he wanted - yet it would be ludicrous to use this fact to infer that he was ACTUALLY there).
---StrongAxe on 10/20/08


StrongAxe: One's interpretation "must" be in line with what Scripture says in order to be valid. If what people say/teach doesn't line up with what the Bible says, then they are false teachers.
---Leon on 10/20/08


-Strong: "If Jesus existed before Abraham...how could he be the result of a marriage between God and Israel...?"

Exactly. Excellent point. Bobby.


Fellows....I don't know...maybe because he is GOD?? I'm looking. Know first love steps. br>
br>6For thou art an holy people unto LORD thy God: LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth

The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people, for ye were the fewest of all people:
Deuteronomy 7:6-8
Let me throw one in here for V.
Genesis......EVERLASTING covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to THY SEED after thee.
---Trav on 10/20/08


mic, I agree. But in my specific situation, there were no signs. We got along well, we had our disagreements but nothing we couldn't compromise on. The abuse didn't start until after we were together for over 3 years. I believe it came from some insecurities he had as a man. I tried to help and confirm that He was a man. I gave him respect and love just as God commands but He always accused me of things I wasn't doing. There wasn't a time he didn't know who I was with, where I was at, and what I was doing. I didn't hide things from him. I was always honest. It seemed the more I showed him love, the worse it got. So I prayed to God to show me where He(God) wanted me to be. And God answered by giving me a way out when before there wasn't.
---ginger on 10/20/08


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No, wedding vows are not in the bible.
---AlwaysOn on 10/20/08


Ginger:-If you recall.The creation of A & E you will understand each had the attributes of God.But Joined together one complimented each other as Mates (was Gods intent).The spousal abuse you speak about can be avoided if Choice is used by Time and watchful prayer "Marry in haste and repent at leisure" is a phrase often spoken for a bad Choice.Both contracting Parties must approach this indissoluble contract as such.Otherwise do not enter.Hence the other truth"What God hath joined let no man put asunder".How many enter their marriage with this intent."Through hell fire and water till death do us part"The 2 being joined are ONE as GOD- who cannot be DIVIDED".
---Mic on 10/19/08


Leon:

Yes, there are many things that are implied by the Bible, but are not directly stated. Nevertheless, we can infer that they probably took place, based on our current understanding. (For example, it's likely that there were many woman born in Biblical times, even though the Bible mentions mostly men).

Unfortuately, many people assert that "The Bible teaches xyz", when it doesn't actually say "xyz" anywhere at all, and they merely infer that, based on their own understanding. In essence, they are teaching their own interpretation and elevating their human wisdom to the level of scripture.
---StrongAxe on 10/17/08


StrongAxe: All I'm saying is Adam affirmed (took responsibility for) Eve's well-being. You're right. Often, all we're given regarding Bible situations are snippets, not recorded details, of what went on. Whatever Adam & Eve may've said to each other after Adam's "bone of my bone..." statement, only God knows. Yet, I believe Christians are given insight into Bible passages when we use our God-given reasoning ability (logic: reading between the lines) in line with what Scripture says. For example, the fact that Adam "knew" Eve gives testimony she was very receptive/cooperative regarding Adam's desires.

What I'm saying may seem over the top, but that's how I see it unless God persuades me otherwise. :)
---Leon on 10/17/08


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bobby: I listen to wife, metaphorically. Like GOD listens to Israel with a loving ear.

I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1 Timothy 2:11-13
I posted marriage verses. Prefer in Metaphor, then Mary concieved a metaphor?
Nah, we both know GOD placed the seed. The Physical/spirtual line united through Mary.
Scripture from marriage view explains divorce laws. Explains death/sacrifice. Scripture linking front to back...

So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
Romans 7:2-4
---Trav on 10/17/08


Strong: "If Jesus existed before Abraham...how could he be the result of a marriage between God and Israel...?"

Exactly. Excellent point. I'm trying to communicate to Trav that when God speaks of Himself being 'married' to Israel, it is NOT literal, but rather metaphorical. Also, when it is said that Jesus is the 'Son' of God, it does NOT mean that Jesus is a literal offspring of God. When I asked "how an infinite, spirit being (God) could interact with a finite and physical group of sinful people to produce a perfect and sinless and divine Son", one should immediately realize that this cannot/did not happen, and therefore, the 'marriage'/'Son' concept is strictly metaphorical in this sense.
---Bobby3 on 10/16/08


If Jesus existed before Abraham (from whom Israel was descended), how could he be the result of a marriage between God and Israel (who didn't even exist yet)?
---StrongAxe 10/16/08

God saved Israel through the Passover
The Jewish people had to celebrate the Passover every year in memory of what God did for them saving their first born.
They had to eat the Lamb to be pasted.

Jesus is God's Son that wasn't Pass Over for Israel.
What God demanded of Abraham in sacrificing his son was not done, but God shows Israel He is going to Sacrificing His Son!

Jesus the Sacrifical Lamb.
The New Covenant.
John 6 The Lamb is to be eaten.

The Marriage of God with Israel with all Nations sealed by the Blood of Jesus.
---Nicole on 10/16/08


the spouse abuse thing is a breaking of vows. He/she promises to love honor and cherish, well I have been abused and trust me that is not any of the above. I believe that it is grounds for divorce. I don't believe God ment for anyone to be treated that way. And I don't believe that anyone should live in that. God says he wants nothing but Good things for us. When he gave me a way out I took it without hesitation and I have been better of for it, too.
---ginger on 10/16/08


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Leon:

Adam may well have made promises of love or other vows, however, they are not recorded in scripture.


Bobby3:

John 8:58
"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"

If Jesus existed before Abraham (from whom Israel was descended), how could he be the result of a marriage between God and Israel (who didn't even exist yet)?
---StrongAxe on 10/16/08


Adam made a statement about what Eve was, but said nothing about what he would do or not, so it wasn't a vow.---StrongAxe

Yes, but they were joined together by God. They shared a bone.
The only two that God personally joined.
Plus, a vow is saying a promise to one and not to another.
Saying out of everyone else, it is you I promise to be with and cherish.

Adam didn't have a choice. Eve had no competition. No other woman for Adam to exclude.

What about physical spousal abuse? where does that come into play?---ginger
Separation.
Parents abuse their children, but that doesn't mean they are not their parents anymore.
The State just separates them for the protection of the child.
Abuse can't disolve a union
---Nicole on 10/16/08


I agree, mic.
But the thing is, if all this is going on in a marriage, is it blessed and sanctioned by God?
I would say not because if two people are acting like this, then they should divorce and find marriage with someone God does approve, right?
Now, I am not saying that people should divorce for the stupid reasons they do today- the irreconcilable differences thing just doesn't wash with me.
This just comes from not working at the marriage.
What about physical spousal abuse? where does that come into play?
---ginger on 10/16/08


"Bobby, my wife said the same thing."

Listen to her.

"It popped into my head instantly, that GOD had a SON. Do we need more literal?"

Let's think about this: God was married (literally and NOT metaphorically, you say) to the nation of Israel and had a Son (by this marriage?). Jesus is the product of a marriage between God and a nation of people? And Jesus is the literal offspring of God and Israel? Answer how an infinite, spirit being (God) could interact with a finite and physical group of sinful people to produce a perfect and sinless and divine Son.

"The new Covenant Heb 8:8, Jer 31:31."

Yes, God made a new covenant. However, this is NOT a literal marriage covenant.
---Bobby3 on 10/16/08


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StrongAxe: True, marriage vows are promises to be faithful, loyal, loving... Maybe it's just me, but I can almost hear Adam saying, "Ohhh mama!!! Wow, this is my beloved!" I know that paints Adam & Eve as types of Steve Urkel & his beloved Laura. :) But, my point is, it's all about love.

Wedding vows are also "affirmations (testimonies, declarations)" of love between a man & woman. So, yes, I stand by my previous post regarding Adam... & the love between the wedded couple expressed in the Song of Solomon.
---Leon on 10/16/08


Leon:

A vow is a promise to do (or not do) something. Adam made a statement about what Eve was, but said nothing about what he would do or not - so it wasn't a vow.

Song of Songs is a love poem, but is there any actual vow there?
---StrongAxe on 10/16/08


"If I were married and went out and fornicated would I be Married, or did Not respect my Husband would I really be Married GINGER SAYS on 10/15/08
ANSWER:- YES! YES!! YES!!! still married- but a fallen woman,who can be forgiven by God if contrite-By Husband -I dont know- I am not him."What God hath Joined together let no man put asunder".If actions speak louder than words, Please tell me why more than 50% of Marriages are broken By infidelity? So is marriage a covenant or a broken VOW.You want action well you got action, but No covenant which can never be broken as it is made by God ONLY.CAPISH?
---Mic on 10/15/08


I want to thank you both mic and nicole.

nicole for helping understand the vow/covenant/blessing.

mic for the way I find out if he is the right man when I run into him.

God bless you both!!!
---ginger on 10/15/08


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Trav: You understand these passages referring to God being 'married' are not to be taken literally, don't you? God was not literally married and then divorced. The marriage metaphor is supposed to communicate the fact that His chosen people had gone astray and had betrayed Him by worshipping other 'gods' ('playing the harlot').
---Bobby3 on 10/13/08
Bobby, my wife said the same thing. It popped into my head instantly, that GOD had a SON. Do we need more literal? The new Covenant Heb 8:8, Jer 31:31. Pretty specific. Listed many verses. Would be a afraid to make a light,"metphor", out of the hundreds of prophecy scriptures related. Look up these words, You Only, chosen, loved, forever,everlasting,Olive, etc.
Eyes ears.
---Trav on 10/15/08


mic, I agree, but I still think nicole goes more in depth at explaining it.
the vows are just words until it is consumated by action then it is a covenant.
Marriage, to me, is an example of how we are suppose to be towards God and the covenant he made with Christians.
We are suppose to be faithful, true, honest, and obey God.
If we accept Jesus as our savior we enter into the covenant by this action.
So it goes back to action speaks louder than words.
If I were married and said I was married but went out and fornicated, would I really be married? Or if I did not respect my husband, would I really be married? These are the questions I asked.
---ginger on 10/15/08


Words until the comsumation binds the words.
Ginger, people told me to wait for God to send me a husband?
I believe they are saying it wrong.

They should say: Don't settle for an ungodly man. This man isn't from God.

I don't think God points out people for us, but reveals to us if He wants us to marry or not.
God blesses our choice.

Jacob tricked Isaac for his blessings. It was sealed.
Jacob indeed received the promise of the Blessing.

So, when we ask God to bind our marriage into one. How can we change our mind later?
Issac couldn't undo the blessing for Esau, no matter how much he cried.
People just don't understand Marriage.
But, lack of understanding doesn't lessen God's view of Marriage.
---Nicole on 10/15/08


Ginger:- You are correct EXCEPT for the word 'Covenant' Please note "God makes Covenants with His People". People make Vows, trusts, pacts, but 'Not' Covenants .We are Not Gods.!!!"A gentlemans word is His BOND"I promise to be faithful ect till death do us part in church we call God to witness the VOW taken.
---Mic on 10/14/08


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Ginger:My dear Lady what do you do?.make a wise choice based on all the facts of his devotedness, his truthfullness,his desire to take responsibility.his courage to defend you and your children.His devotion to God and His Holy mother,His church, His patience.His tenderness,truthfullness His language and above all His desire to love honour respect and willingness to please YOU.He compliments you and brings out the good qualities in you. Till you feel you are 2 in one flesh.Then you know for certain he will stay the course.Quiz him on all these attributes.with a womans tenderness.The rest will be automatic b/c it is all built in by God.The Godly qualities you are lacking he will have and vice versa.Pray for this dream.
---Mic on 10/14/08


mic, you are right. People don't realize they have to work at a marriage. So, then it is just words like what nicole said.
I think it becomes a covenant when Both fulfill it.
Also, if it our choice, then why do so many Christians keep telling me that I should wait for God to send me a husband? Don't get me wrong, I actively go out and meet people, but sadly no prospects. So now what do I do?
---ginger on 10/14/08


The RCC agrees with you Ginger.
Marriage is 1 of the 7 Sacraments.
Sacraments are God's domain. Matthew 19:6 "What God has joined together, no human being must separate."

The choices are: Single, Married, Separated, Annulment
Divorce isn't Biblical. Divorce is called Adultery in Jesus' eyes.

Matthew 5:31-32 "It was also said,'Whoever divorces his wife must give her a bill of divorce.' But I say to you, whoever divorces his wife (unless the marriage is unlawful{Annulment})causes her to commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery."

Catholics can't get a divorce.
This is civil matters, not the Church.
You can separate if harm can occur.
But you can't date others.
---Nicole on 10/14/08


Ginger:dear lady we are led to believe that long lasting Marriages are made in Heaven by God's choice. This is a Fallacy IMHO as B/C people with the best of intentions at the start wane in time by complacency.One Has to work at a Marriage 24/7/365 X YRS.Choice is the biggest Factor that disrupts this union of God and Man.resulting in Divorce.In order for a marriage to work Both must be intelligent enough to stick to the CONTRACT "till death do us Part"this Vow is sacred and one must deeply contemplate its effects BEFORE saying "I DO"Reason is in Genesis "What God hath Joined let no man put asunder 2 in one Flesh".Peace with His love.
---Mic on 10/14/08


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"Are wedding vows in the Bible?"

1. Gen. 2:23 "And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man."

2. Song of Solomon
---Leon on 10/14/08


mic, that is another great example of a covenant.

I am still a little confused on the whole marriage thing, though.

I mean since we know vows are not the same as a covenant, where does this place marriage? and divorce, really?

I am not saying that I agree with divorce. I am asking that if two people do not make a covenant to stay married, will it work?
Then if this is true, is it really God who brought them together?
I have been told that you know(especially if you are Christian) when God has given you the mate HE chooses for you. And I believe it.
So doesn't that mean if we choose our own it may fail?
---ginger on 10/14/08


Trav: You understand these passages referring to God being 'married' are not to be taken literally, don't you? God was not literally married and then divorced. The marriage metaphor is supposed to communicate the fact that His chosen people had gone astray and had betrayed Him by worshipping other 'gods' ('playing the harlot').
---Bobby3 on 10/13/08


God made a covenant with Noah not to again drown the flesh of world with water. This was His covenant and set a BOW in the sky as a mark of His Covenant.This "action" we witness today. The beautiful Rainbow.Gen9:17
---Mic on 10/13/08


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Nicole, I really like how you explained the difference in vows and covenants. I completely agree with you.

I have a question- since vows are just words and a covenant is action, how does divorce fit into this?

Say for instance, one person in a marriage is fulfilling their part, but the other is not, then what would be the course of action?

Could this be the reason why we have so much divorce? No one takes the covenant serious anymore.

We know as Christians that marriage is an earthly example of how our relationship is suppose to be with God. At least, this is what I have been taught.
---ginger on 10/13/08


God was married? Please elaborate.
---Bobby3 on 10/10/08
Part lll.

... because the LORD loved Israel FOR EVER, therefore made he thee king, to do judgment and justice.
1 Kings 10:8-10
They say, If a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man's, shall he return unto her again? shall not that land be greatly polluted? but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers, YET RETURN AGAIN TO ME, saith the LORD.
Jeremiah 3:1-3
I will heal their backsliding, I will love them freely: for mine anger is turned away from him.
Hosea 14:3-5
, but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
Romans 7:1-3
---Trav on 10/13/08


God was married? Please elaborate.
---Bobby3 on 10/10/08
Turn, O backsliding children, saith the LORD, for I am married unto you: ...
Jeremiah 3:13
thy Maker is thine husband, the LORD of hosts is his name, and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel, The God of the whole earth shall he be called.
Isaiah 54:4-6
...which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jeremiah 31:31-33
...looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love, and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine.
Ezekiel 16:7-9
---Trav on 10/13/08


God was married? Please elaborate.
---Bobby3 on 10/10/08
Can't have a divorce unless married, right?

...backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce, yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
Jeremiah 3:7-9
Thus saith the LORD, Where is the bill of your mother's divorcement, whom I have put away? or which of my creditors is it to whom I have sold you? Behold, for your iniquities have ye sold yourselves, and for your transgressions is your mother put away.
Isaiah 50:1-3
as a wife treacherously departeth from her husband, so have ye dealt treacherously with me, O house of Israel, saith the LORD.
Jeremiah 3:19-21
---Trav on 10/13/08


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Vows are words of promise.
Convenants are actions taken.

God vowed to be with His people forever.
His Convenant made was with Abraham.
Read Genesis 15

God promised Abram a great reward.
Abram asked for proof V 9.
V 17-19 the Convenant is sealed!
They go hand and hand.

Words are not enough. Action is required.
If God being a God felt He had to perform an action to prove His Words to Abram, why not us?

Genesis 17
Speaks of another Convenant in Action form.
Circumcision. This was the Jewish part of upholding their part of the Convenant.

Thats why Jesus commands Baptism.
Actions, not just words.
Where do you think the saying 'He is just all talk' came from?
Action is needed.
---Nicole on 10/11/08


It doesn't say to make a vow when you get married. So, if ones are *adding* this to what God does, the wrong spirit of this disobedient and boastful vowing can doom the marriage to failure. Look what happened to Peter because he boasted he would go to prison and death with Jesus > he ended up denying Jesus three times. So, if your vow was not humble, repent of that and do things humbly so that wrong vow's curse can not continue to harm your marriage. And "Do all things without complaining and disputing, that you may become blameless and harmless, children of God without fault in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom you shine as lights in the world," (Philippians 2:14-15)
---Bill_bila5659 on 10/11/08


"If GOD was married, and Divorced how could he remarry without breaking his own law."

God was married? Please elaborate.
---Bobby3 on 10/10/08


God indeed does everything to save His Church and that includes to bring it to persecution, in order to strengthen it and purge it of Satanism etc. Sending it underground is often the best thing that happens to the Church. Since we live in totally different realities and understanding of the Bible, Mic, I won't argue with you but will let you continue on your way, blindly.
---frances008 on 10/10/08


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I think there is a misnomer about oaths and Vows:OATH,A solem promise or statement that something is true. Eg Calling God to witness that what is bein said is the Truth.This,in trivial matters is a no no as it contravenes the 2nd Commandment.Taking the lords name in Vain.Not a serious matter. Mat5:34 A simple yes or no should suffice.
VOW:-A solemn promise made to a party organisation,with God as witness. Make a vow to do,give,get,declare earnestly emphatically, Vows taken in a religious order.Avow is made when you
Promise to carry out and fulfil a contract in which God is witness EG Marriage in church.
---Mic on 10/10/08


Frances:-(so you also declare Marriage is a covenant.Then why the WARNING "what God hath Joined let no man put asunder?"by God himself and why so many divorces single moms?.God made a covenant by Giving us "MY Church"who and why do people contest the RCC, His church by Succession.Maybe you will explain this situation prevailing.
---Mic on 10/10/08


okay, so why don't people just say I join myself to this person for the rest of my life according to GOD's word, present rings as a representation of the covenant, and do this in front of witnesses instead of all the hoopla?

I say this because these days people spend so much money on a marriage ceremony. It's crazy, LOL.
---ginger on 10/10/08


Covenants are very biblical indeed. Everlasting covenants are what God is the maker of. Human marriage is a type of the everlasting covenant made between God and man, to be celebrated when the Lord comes for his victorious Bride.
---frances008 on 10/9/08


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katavasia on 10/8/08: Kat, I'm always willing to learn a truth. Get us all out of suspense, please.

I've got one too. If GOD was married, and Divorced how could he remarry without breaking his own law.
---Trav on 10/9/08


i like how Holly4jc explains it and I agree. It is not about vows. It is about committment. So why don't we just Say in a marriage ceremony that we committ ourselves to one another for everything?

katavasia, are you talking about obeying the laws for divorce?
---ginger on 10/9/08


Matthew 5:33-35
33)"Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not break your oath, but keep the oaths you have made to the Lord.'
34)But I tell you, Do not swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God's throne,
35)or by the earth, for it is his footstool, or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King.
This was said by Jesus Christ himself about taking vows.
I know why we have wedding vows, but who made them up?
---ginger on 10/9/08


Marriage is about covenant...not taking a vow. Just as we as Christians (the children of God) are in a covenant relationship with God, so is a man and a woman who marry...they are in a covenant relationship with each other and God. Covenants are much more serious than vows and God takes covenants very seriously!
---Holly4jc on 10/8/08


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There is one Biblical practice about weddings that most Bible-believing Christians would rather be shot than follow.

I wonder if anybody here knows what it is?
---katavasia on 10/8/08


There are many things you won't find in the Bible but the principles are there that a marriage is a life long resposibilty and commitment. I don't know how you could go into something like a marriage without a commitment. If there was none then you could just walk away.
---john on 10/8/08


Wedding vows are not mentioned in the bible. But vows are mentioned. The definition of vows is: A solemn promise made to God to live and act in a certain manner. Here is a verse to explain Deuteronomy 23:21-22, When thou shalt vow a vow unto the Lord thy God, thou shalt not slack to pay it for the Lord thy God will surely require it of thee and it would be a sin unto thee. But if thou shalt forbear to vow it shall be no sin unto thee. A vow is a promise. If a person can't keep a promise or a vow, then they shouldn't make it in the first place. Promises or vows are not made to be broken.
---Rebecca_D on 10/8/08


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