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Should we sugar coat the truth in these blogs to avoid hurting a person's feelings only to later find out that the person went to hell?

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Revelation 22:18-19 (King James Version)

18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

we are responible and will be held acountable for what we say when we witness. i'm not going to hell an acount of someone's feelings. I give scriptures straight out of the bible if they dont like the truth? they can go get there false doctrine from someone that dont mind going to hell.
---batieste on 3/14/09


May God give us knowledge of His will through the wisdom and understanding that the Spirit gives.

Also do quarrel over disputable matters.

Also proclaim Him, admonishing and teaching everyone in all wisdom so that everyone may be presented prefect before God.

Be as sly as snake and gentle as a dove.

But do not be a people pleaser.
---Martin_nz on 11/27/08


The terminology "sugar coat the truth" came from the the bitter pill which had to be taken in its naked truth-reality.It was emphasised in the movie by a little bit of sugar makes the medicine go down.The reality of life is difficult we are all called to partake of this cup"Jesus said can you drink from this cup which I am about to drink"He was talking about His crucifiction and death.This is the cup of self denial which gets us to be His followers.There you have it the sugar is removed Drink from the cup if you think you can go it alone.REMEMBER Keep my commandments.
---Mic on 11/25/08


Darlene 1~ Thank you for sharing your wisdom and you explained everything very clearly and well. What you said is in total agreement with the Word of God. Hope to read more of your posts in the future.
---Anne on 11/25/08


Darlene 1~ THANK YOU for sharing your wisdom, and you explained everything very clearly as well. What you said is in total agreement with the word of God. Hope to read more of your posts in the future.
---Anne on 11/18/08




Our job as Christians is to tell the truth,the whole truth,and nothing but the truth. We didn't come into the Family of God to be people pleasers. God has called each of us to "Go and Tell" Jesus saves. Sugar coated truth is in reality a lie. Jesus didn't worry about hurting feelings by telling them they are wrong and neither should we. Jesus wasn't hateful about it and we must also do everything in love. God's truth will pluck people out of Satans grasp if they receive it but sugarcoated facts or lies will send a person to hell and you right along with them. If a Christian seeks God for what to say they will not hurt someone with truth. If they speak the Word of God it will not return void.
---Darlene_1 on 11/18/08


To sugar coat is similar in meaning to water-down or make less truthful. If we do water-down what the Bible teaches we are not telling the truth of what the Bible says which is a great sin...so no we should never be watering down the truths of the Bible.
---Anne on 11/18/08


The Gospel means the good news(sugar)...We as Christians are never told to proclaim bad news. We will never make it through fear. Love is the answer. Perfect love produces perfect obedience. If we proclaim the love of God, there is no room for fear.
---duane on 11/18/08


Thanks for your reply Mic and have a good evening.
---Anne on 11/17/08


Thanks for your reply Mic and have a good evening.
---Anne on 11/17/08




Anne:I agree:but what do you expect if You go to a Taco stall to buy Hamburgers!!!!or a genuine steak sandwich!!Jesus said MY Church Matt16:13-19:cOME TO ME ALL WHO ARE LABOURED AND BURDENED AND I WILL REFRESH YOU.ONLY SILLY PEOPLE GO SKINNY DIPPING IN THE WINTER UP NORTH -SO THEY SAY.
---Mic on 11/17/08


Mic~ There is nothing we can do about those who refuse to listen to truth, except pray that God will open their spiritual ears and eyes in time. But some are sincerely and earnestly seeking truth, and the 'truth' they hear in churches tells them things like "You are saved if you are baptized, confirmed, and tell the Lord that you receive him into your heart." Some churches say, "you are saved if you can speak in tongues etc." Very few churches/spiritual leaders tell us that the only way we can know if we are truly saved is if we are living earnestly according to God's Word. Probably the book of I John is the most thorough in being able to discern if we are truly saved.
---Anne on 11/15/08


I never get sick of Truth but too much sugar makes me sick.
---Warwick on 11/15/08


Mic~ There is nothing we can do about those who refuse to listen to truth, except pray that God will open their spiritual ears and eyes in time. But some are sincerely and earnestly seeking truth, and the 'truth' they hear in churches tells them things like "You are saved if you are baptized, confirmed, and tell the Lord that you receive him into your heart." Some churches say, "you are saved if you can speak in tongues etc." Very few churches/spiritual leaders tell us that the only way we can know if we are truly saved is if we are living earnestly according to God's Word. Probably the book of I John is the most thorough in being able to discern if we are truly saved.
---Anne on 11/15/08


ANNE:-The TRUTH is always sweet to those who believe Jesus.This is what they live on.It is the same truth to those who PROTEST an ism,that regard it as a bitter pill even if sugar coated.They live for the day like a butterfly with a life expectancy for the day, that is why they do not believe in 'Perfection' striving to be better but chart their own course offering every interpretation to break the rule so as to gain their own ends .Examine the commandments one byone,against mans actions and you will see many voluntary deficiencies.To strive is to Control self control24/7.EVIL is the perpetrator man consents.
---Mic on 11/15/08


Mic~ What I meant by 'sugar-coating' is making a message sound sweet, instead of exposing the truth (the truth is often not nice and sweet, but instead is very 'sour' and unacceptable to the majority.) Many 'salvation plans' say 'sweet' things like..."Dear child, just receive the Lord into your heart, and you will be eternally saved." Salvation plans rarely tell us any of the true in-depth messages of the Bible...for they don't want to step on people's toes. So rarely do people ever learn that even though God is such a loving Father, He is to be feared. (P.S. Sorry about my previous blog comment about 'candy'...It sounded a bit rude.) P.S.S. You were in the Air Force? I was in the Army a couple years.
---Anne on 11/14/08


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Kathrn:You still deny Jesus's challenge by quoting Paul.Are you saying Paul does not agree with Jesus or is this your interpretation."Be perfect as your heavenly Father is Perfect" .Paul preached SALVATION on Jesus words. Salvation is Heaven in the next. If this is what you desire, Meet the challenge. It's personal-save yourself First,before dragging others into the morass of deceit.
---Mic on 11/14/08


Mic~thanks for you humble opinion. Your intellectual talk about 'sugar' makes me want a piece of candy now. :)
---Anne on 11/14/08


Mic~thanks for you humble opinion. Your intellectual talk about 'sugar' makes me want a piece of candy now. :)
---Anne on 11/14/08


Yaulllllllllllllllllll funnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnny.

Keep up the good work my brothers & sisters in Christ
---Tommy on 11/14/08


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**Everyone knows that it's really not possible for a human being to actually "be" PERFECT.**

What many fail to understand is that ONLY Jesus Christ can perfect you!!!

Hebrews 13:20-22

20Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus,....., through the blood of the everlasting covenant, 21Make you perfect .....through Jesus Christ,to whom be glory for ever . Amen.

Col 1:27-29

27To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

28Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom,that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
---kathr4453 on 11/14/08


Mark V.~ Thanks for your kind words, and yes, I believe you and I see 'eye to eye' on the major issues as well. Yes I understand what you mean about people not being able to hear unless they are given the ears to hear. (The Spiritual ears that God gives.)....till then we are called to be patient and concerned, and teach the gospel in all patience like you correctly said. I appreciate your sound advice.
---Anne on 11/14/08


Anne:while agreeing with you The word "sugar coat" is IMHO the wrong word It is the delivery that makes the difference Jesus did not rebuke 'everyone'
only those who thought they were santimonious and above reproach.For his command says Love one another as I have loved You .He shows His humanity (compassion) at the death of Lazarus.Yes patience Kindness but determination in expressing a truth to convey a message is not really sugar coating .Sugar coating is when you allow someone and excuse them for something wrong done accepting their explaination, I would consider that to be sugar coating MHO.
---Mic on 11/14/08


: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, and to virtue knowledge,

6 And to knowledge temperance, and to temperance patience, and to patience godliness,

7 And to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness charity.

8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 11/14/08


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Good work Anne, thanks for coming on line. We might not agree on every single thing but we are working for the same side as I can see by your answers. Be patient.
Some have been here a long time and they put up a fight for what is false.
We are to speak for the Truth who is Christ to all who want to hear who have ears to hear. To the others, we cannot make them hear.
---MarkV. on 11/14/08


No~We should never sugar coat the truth. We can often help guide others away from ungodly practices without having to actually hurt their feelings. However at times, we have to emphatically rebuke others. God said that all that he loves he chastens, and if we truly love others we will want to keep them off the path to hell as well. Therefore we are commanded to exhort, chastise, and rebuke others. What I find most disheartening is when I see probably around 90-95% of churches who do not feel a strong need to alert their church-goers of the possibilities of hell, but instead give them a 'sugar-coated salvation plan.' I'm sure Jesus would be seriously rebuking church leaders of our day just as He did to the church leaders of His generation.
---Anne on 11/14/08


No~We should never sugar coat the truth. We can often help guide others away from ungodly practices without having to actually hurt their feelings. However at times, we have to emphatically rebuke others. God said that all that he loves he chastens, and if we truly love others we will want to keep them off the path to hell as well. Therefore we are commanded to exhort, chastise, and rebuke others. What I find most disheartening is when I see probably around 90-95% of churches who do not feel a strong need to alert their church-goers of the possibilities of hell, but instead give them a 'sugar-coated salvation plan.' I'm sure Jesus would be seriously rebuking church leaders of our day just as He did to the church leaders of His generation.
---Anne on 11/14/08


No~We should never sugar coat the truth. We can often help guide others away from ungodly practices without having to actually hurt their feelings. However at times, we have to emphatically rebuke others. God said that all that he loves he chastens, and if we truly love others we will want to keep them off the path to hell as well. Therefore we are commanded to exhort, chastise, and rebuke others. What I find most disheartening is when I see probably around 90-95% of churches who do not feel a strong need to alert their church-goers of the possibilities of hell, but instead give them a 'sugar-coated salvation plan.' I'm sure Jesus would be seriously rebuking church leaders of our day just as He did to the church leaders of His generation.
---Anne on 11/14/08


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Shawn :I guess you got an 'A'on that one from Anne Congrats.
---Mic on 11/13/08


Hey Shawn~ Thanks for the words of encouragement. Nice to hear positive words on this site, and God bless you Too. ~Anne
---Anne on 11/13/08


--Anne:

I was just sharing exactly how the Lord desired & intended for us to be perfect as He is perfect. It's having a heart diligent in the Word of God, for out of such a heart flows the issues of life (Pro.4:23).

Like you said, our 'desire to continuously grow through enduring in the Word of God', is what make us perfect in the eyes of the Lord. I believe that it's important that we who desire the Lord understand that we are made perfect in this way and endever to always look upon one another as such, dispite not being able to come to one accord, at this or any other moment, in the Word of God with one another!!!

Anne, you are perfect. So keep enduring!!

God Bless
---Shawn_M.T. on 11/13/08


Shawn~all I was really saying is were never going to be 'perfect' till we get to heaven. But at least we can grow here on earth.
---Anne on 11/12/08


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Shawn~all I was really saying is were never going to be 'perfect' till we get to heaven. But at least we can grow here on earth.
---Anne on 11/12/08


--Anna: ***I could never even begin to be perfect. I try to grow toward perfection****until we are free from these sin-cursed bodies, and receive our brand new spiritual bodies, we won't be perfect for sure.***

When the Lord said be perfect as our Heavenly Father is perfect, this is how He meant it: To keep & walk-in the Word = perfection.

Whosoever keepeth the Word of God, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked(1John2:5-6).

Anna, I believe that if we can receive the Lord in these sinful bodies, then we can keep & walk in the Word of God unto perfection.
---Shawn.M.T on 11/12/08


Most Ex Way, when God gave Moses the Ten Commandments it was not some kind of double dare. God knew that mankind (some at least) would be capable of living up to them at least in the end, after being trained with God's rod and staff. The Ten Commandments were a school teacher, and after them came Jesus with the full extent of the Commandments. If you cannot do addition, you will never be able to master long division or logarithms (what were they about anyway? LOL).
---frances008 on 11/11/08


To Whosoever has an ear to hear?

To be perfect as the Lord is perfect is a call to "LOVE"!!!

Perfect love is Godly Love. This is how we are to be perfect. 1John4:18 There is no fear in love, but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

Pro.16:6 Through love and faithfulness sin is atoned for:and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil. Because fear of the LORD, that is wisdom, and to depart from evil is understanding(Job 28:28). We who passeth all understanding, shall keep our hearts & minds in peace through Christ(Phili.4:7)

Our hearts are to be perfect with the LORD, to walk in his statutes & to keep his commandments(1King8:61)
---Shawn_M.T. on 11/11/08


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You said it More Excellent Way~ Apart from Jesus I could never even begin to be perfect. I try to grow toward perfection, but just as Paul says.."oh what a miserable man that I am"...I fully relate to that, for until we are free from these sin-cursed bodies, and receive our brand new spiritual bodies, we won't be perfect for sure. In our spirit we never want to sin, but while in our flesh we still do unfortuneately.
---Anne on 11/11/08


M/Ex/Way:Jesus was a man, born into this world, He trod the way of life was tempted but did not Falter.He invited you HIS way, yes, HIS WAY and gave you support systems in His inatitution, sacraments in HIS church and you say it cannot be done "Be perfect as Your heavenly Father is perfect"His challenge is your Goal.It is the worldly desires which need conquering "SELF CONTROL"and the same as saying- NO TO DRUGS,drink,Lust,worldly desires, which are temporary attractions-Salvation is everlasting.He did not say it was EASY but the challenge is there"Pick up your cross and Follow ME"
---Mic on 11/10/08


Everyone knows that it's really not possible for a human being to actually "be" PERFECT.

No one can truly be thought of as (DEEMED) perfect (No one is "good"/PERFECT but God alone,...have you chosen to believe that God was mistaken when He said that?).

SO, God RE-deemed us spiritually as though we are perfect, but we are still incapable of perfection in our behavior.

The Ten Commandments were 'the ten rules of PERFECTION', but humanity never caught on to the fact that human beings are incapable of perfection.

1 Corin. 13:10

"when the perfect comes...".

James 1:25 and 2:12 (live under the PERFECT law).

Let your love be made PERFECT (1 John 4:18).
---more_excellent_way on 11/10/08


--SusieB: ***Would somebody please tell me how they "sugar coat" what hell will be like***

No one here is thinking of sugar coating "hell". Why are you?

To "Sugar coat" something means presenting it in a way that it will hopefully go down easily & be accepted and at the same time still be able to affect the heart in a convicting way.

Linda is just unsure in the amount of passion & authority to speak the truth. Fearful that if she come on to strong, the Word will not be accepted and if she present the Word not strong enough, it will not be heard.

The bottom line is, always share God's Word with nothing but love in your heart for God & neighbor....and God will do the rest!!!
---Shawn_M.T. on 11/10/08


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Sugar coat? No. Speak in love? Always.
---Katie on 11/7/08


Be perfect as my heavenly Father is perfect. That was the command from Jesus himself. He would not have put that idea forward if it was impossible to attain. I like to think that God will not call us home until we have attained that perfection in our lives.

What is quite clever is that the lies of the devil are often accompanied by 'love bombing'. This is where lonely people seek and find love in a church, but the doctrine is not the gospel truth. How can the truth compete with such tactics?
---frances008 on 11/7/08


MarkV~I am one of those people you mentioned who never gets tired of talking about God and His kingdom....I can't think of another topic that can begin to compare to understanding God and living for Him with all our heart, mind, soul, and strength. It is wonderful to know that you too notice how some are so excited about God ('hot'for God), while others get so bored by the subject (are dead, or lukewarm). My concern, is that church leaders themselves seem so bogged down by everything but teaching the exciting truths of the Bible. To me, merely teaching the 'friendly gospel' is so terribly lukewarm. It is sad how we are heaping up teachers to please our ears, instead of teachers who are zealous for God's amazing word.
---Anne on 11/7/08


Anne, churches avoid talking about many things. Most churches today teach friendly gospel. Some with a lot of music, others don't talk about devorce or hell because it offends many. They look for topics that are about the love of Christ, but avoid teaching why we need Him to begin with. Many, when you talk about Christ, they get tired. They rather talk about someone else are some other topic that amuses them.
I know when I am with a true Christian, he never gets tired of speaking about Christ or His kingdom. They can go on and on. Nothing else matters that much to them.
Try talking to Christians and you will see who gets up and leaves, and who changes the subject. It becomes evident Christ is not the sole receiver of their glory.
---MarkV. on 11/7/08


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There were great comments to this subject on Nov. 6. Since so many of us agree that the truths of the Bible, especially subjects like hell etc. should not be sugar-coated....then I wonder why it is next to impossible to find a church that preaches/teaches on that subject??
---Anne on 11/7/08


Jesus Himself is not the "living water".

Many "christians" have simply come to Christ out of "hunger" (to eat of the "bread of life") but do not "thirst" (have a Godlike nature). Only those who "neither thirst" (Rev. 7:16) will enter "by the door" (John 10:1) and have eternal life in the "new heaven" (Rev. 21:1).

This TRUTH has always been sugar coated. It is only a Christian with a Godlike nature who has received the living water baptism of the spirit.
---more_excellent_way on 11/7/08


Look, before the lord came to me. Do you think I was looking for the lord? No! The last thing on my mind was God. He call me, me a sinner. Believe me, what he show me, the love he let me feel. What I felt is more real then anything here. Did he tell me about hell, no! Did he try to scare me, no! When he calls you, youll know with no doubt. After this you wont see evil in people, just unbelief, the not knowing the true. It not the, not knowing! Its the doubting, I see is the problem. When he comes to you, you will fall in love with him! I dont doubt this. I dont doubt anyone. Believe me!
---Frank on 11/6/08


Donna:-I believe you are right Jesus dealt with the situation as it presemted itself.NO sugar- but if the subject deserved His compassiom it was readily available.But He always spoke the TRUTH which is what, we must search for as each of our cases is different,whem you find this truth Have the fortitude to CHANGE.Defeating Romans 3 and surplanting it with the perfection which He expects from each of us.
---Mic on 11/6/08


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There was a reason why Jesus witnessed to Nicodemus in a different way then he witnessed to the woman at the well. To the ruler Nicodemus he used a direct approach, you MUST be born again.

To the woman at the well, he befriended her first, didn't call her a sinner, and explained to her He was that living water.

Two completely different ways of telling the truth to someone.

Don't sugarcoat anything, wait for the Holy Spirit to tell you what to say and WHEN to say it...timing is everything. I befriend people first, let them see Christ in me, the Hope of Glory, then I tell them about Jesus.
---donna8365 on 11/6/08


You are right Bernadette, sugar coating any of the message of the gospel is wrong. The sacrifice of Christ on the Cross has taken a back seat to false presentations of hell.
Hell was a subject most talked about by Jesus. He made sure those who had an ear would hear, that the wages of sin was death and that only through faith in Him could anyone escape that place.
Sugar coating the word is also a practice of many concerning speaking the Truth of Scripture in order not to hurt someone's feelings.
What people forget is the the Word accomplishes what God desired for His Word to accomplish. It always completes its purpose. By speaking the Truth we express the very feelings of Christ to others.
---MarkV. on 11/6/08


MarkV: "Every true believe has the love of Christ in Him and we are to display that love to everyone."

Excellent comment! Also, Gal5 lists the fruit of the Spirit, which are 'love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control' (v22-23). We should exhibit these when witnessing to others about Christ.
---Bobby3 on 11/6/08


Bernadette~ Yes, you are right, society does want to 'glamourize' the concept of the devil and hell and make it seem exciting. On the other hand, we have churches that will almost never speak of hell since they feel they will offend a member of the congregation. We desperately need to read our Bibles and learn that hell is real and not a fantasy...it is so sad how churches and society sugar-coat the concept of hell.
---Anne on 11/6/08


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bernadette, you are so right!
See, this is what the enemy wants. For Hollywood to make is less scary so people believe that it isn't real.
We Christians need to stand up and say hey it is real and it is billions of times hotter and horrible than the hottest place on this earth. Just imagine you entire body on fire burning up forever. Not even that, Your soul. We can't even imagine the pain and suffering and I for one don't want to go through that forever.
---miche3754 on 11/6/08


Susie B.:I'M STILL WAITING FOR AN ANSWER!!!!
Believe it or not we humans have a ridiculous way of sugar coating hell. When was the last time you watched TV? When was the last time you read your newspaper for movies playing at a theatre near you? I ask this because our young people seem to think it is okay to worship even admire the devil! Hollywood and human interest sugar coat hell every day. We don't need to sugar coat it...we need to expose it for what it truly is...HELL and eternal damnation!! So, to answer your question yes you can sugar coat hell...but as a Christian it is your/our duty to witness the truth of hell.
---Bernadette on 11/5/08


sugar coating won't change the truth because sometimes it just hurts no matter what.
We should uplift our brothers and sisters no matter what. We are not suppose to cause them to stumble.
If anyone resorts to name calling or questioning someone's walk with God, its sinful, PERIOD.
Each Christian has a personal relationship with Christ and we don't always know that relationship.
If they can back it up with scripture,don't argue about the meaning. This may be what God has revealed to them for what they need to be closer to God.
It is God who shows the truth to the individual and as fellow Christians, we are suppose to pray for each other and that the Holy Spirit guide and teach each person so that they grow in the knowledge of God.
---miche3754 on 11/5/08


Bobby 3, I believe you are correct in your answers and so is ShawnT. Been aggressive or not been aggressive is not going to stop the real truth from accomplishing for what that purpose was intended for, for God's Word alway accomplishes His purpose. For only God knows whom He will have mercy on. Every true believe has the love of Christ in Him and we are to display that love to everyone. Our conduct should always contain love of Christ.
Complaining to others how terrible the denominations are is to be saying that they stop God from drawing the elect to Himself is not true at all, because no one can stop the elect from coming to Christ. God will accomplishes what He starts.
---MarkV. on 11/5/08


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You all see, you all know! But I see its what you dont see, that is wrong. If you look you should clearly see. He tells us what sin is. But do you believe him, no. you put your own sin upon him. The lord is the only one who can tell you the truth. If you love God try to bring they to the water, only he can make him drink. You keep looking at each other and try to change them, why? You see sin! Dont you think the lord know what he is doing! Only speak the word and he shall be healed. Believe and it will be done!

If you believe God can do all, then believe!
You can do nothing!
---Frank on 11/5/08


Would somebody please tell me how they "sugar coat" what hell will be like????
---SusieB on 11/2/08

I'M STILL WAITING FOR AN ANSWER!!!!
---SusieB on 11/4/08


"Truth" (objective/unbiased truth) is extremely important for salvation (simply claiming Jesus as savior is not enough).

(what's wrong, did I neglect to "sugar coat" as humanity has always done?).

God tells us why humanity (including man's type of institutional Christianity) has always had the "STRONG delusion")...
2 Thessalonians 2:10

"because they refused to love the truth,...
...AND SO BE SAVED".

Originally, Jesus devotion was called "THE WAY".

Jesus said "I am THE WAY, the [objective] truth, and the [eternal] life...".

Have a "more excellent" devotion.
---more_excellent_way on 11/4/08


Whether you want to argue that the last days began immediately after the crucifixion or that these are the last days of humanity, Jesus said that in the "last days", He will POUR out His spirit. Jesus came by WATER (that also flowed from His side on the cross) and blood (1 John 5:6) and said that whoever TRULY believes will have the "living water" baptism of having a Godlike NATURE (God is no respecter of PERSONALITIES, He only has regard for a person's true NATURE) and will worship in their own "inner" temple (instead of man's worship centers).

Jesus is the OUTER temple...

John 2:21
"of the temple of his body".

1 Corin. 6:19
"a temple of the Holy Spirit within,...".
---more_excellent_way on 11/4/08


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Bobby3: "Okay. You don't know me personally either. So why is it that you can call me a 'weak Christian' (which you did on another blog)? And why is it that you can say that I might not be a Christian (which is what you did on this one)?"

Just by what and how you post. Many of what you post condradict the Bibleor have no factual Biblical evidence.
---Steveng on 11/4/08


more excellent way: NO, we should not sugar coat the truth, but we should not be wrecklessly hurtful in how we present it.

I couldn't have said it better myself. If we approach the sinner with the bull in a china shop approach or with kid gloves it matters not, the truth must always be forefront. It is easier however to win souls with love rather than beat them over the head with the facts. Jesus didn't say "you better or else" He said "Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me, for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light". Matt 11:29 & 30 Jesus' message is one of love and truth. Simply put His way is light and life, anything else is death.
---Bernadette on 11/4/08


telling the truth doesn't mean being antagonistic

i know pastor who doesn't see the good in his congregation
they go to church hoping to be edified and given directions but what do they get?
critisism and harsh words only... only seeing faults... after 20yrs he has less than 60 people in church...

some of his former converts who felt demoralized and left are now ministers and are feeding/leading their flocks more gently...

we can tell the truth in kind words, people should know we respect them despite their woes...and are willing to help them stand...
not the self righteous way

unfortunately when we go wrong... we expect others to treat us better....
do unto others as you'll have them do to you
---patience on 11/4/08


If you sugar coat the truth, and the person hearing this goes to Hell - you are guilty of murdering that person and their blood will be on your hands. Sugar coating the truth may seem humane to do, but in the end, it is equalant of murder in God's eyes. Sometimes the truth hurts, but is necessary to cure the disease - just like a technis shot. Speaking the RAW TRUTH is the most humane thing to do, even if it hurts. What is more important - the person feels good with what you say, but goes to Hell, or the person is uncomfortable with what you say, but goes to Heaven and is saved? Eternaty is at stake here.
---Leslie on 11/4/08


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"And you don't even personally know me."

Okay. You don't know me personally either. So why is it that you can call me a 'weak Christian' (which you did on another blog)? And why is it that you can say that I might not be a Christian (which is what you did on this one)?

"Do you know what the Bible says about spreading rumors?"

How am I spreading rumors? Your post on this blog indicated that you disagreed with my statement about using a gentle approach.
---Bobby3 on 11/4/08


Bobby3: "Go figure...Steveng isn't into the gentle approach."

And you don't even personally know me. Do you know what the Bible says about spreading rumors? And that's exactly what you are doing. But it's no skin off my nose. God knows the truth and you'll have to account for that on Judgement Day.
---Steveng on 11/3/08


These are the blessed
Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
---Frank on 11/3/08


mike, As far as a preacher's own personal life as compared to his message that he is preaching to the lives of others, both should be in harmony, his life as well as his message. demons are knowledgable of the gospel and they can even speak the gospel to others, yet they do not take the gospel upon themselves in order to become converted. Also you are equating false religions and cults with true Christianity, and you cannot do that, that would be like equating counterfeit money to real money, one is worthy and the other is worthless.
---Eloy on 11/3/08


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PART2

"...for even Jesus himself acted aggresively at times..."

Very true. Aggression definitely has its place: Moses throwing down the stone tablets from the mountain. Jesus driving those who bought and sold in the temple. Elijah slaying the prophets of Baal. Okay, I see your point.

However, as ambassadors for Christ, I hold that our general attitude toward others (especially those to whom we are witnessing) should be one of gentleness and patience (...love is patient, love is kind [1Cor13]) and respect. This is not to say we do not act 'aggressively' should a situation arise that calls for such a response. However, what I'm saying is that aggression ought to be further down on the list of options.
---Bobby3 on 11/2/08


Go figure...Steveng isn't into the gentle approach.

"If what you say is true, that means you are not a Christian..."

Should I go take the Jesus fish decal off my car then?

And I guess Peter wasn't either: 'Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect...' (1Pet3:15)

Yes, gentleness and respect.
---Bobby3 on 11/2/08


If someone is leading a lot of people astray they need harsh treatment. If they are deceived themselves and we love them, then we can preach to them. If they turn on us, then we can know that they were swine, and we should never cast our pearls before them. It is dangerous because they might destroy us instead of us converting them.
---frances008 on 11/2/08


The statement by Donna66,"I believe our responsibility is to share the truth of the Gospel with others clearly and simply, using Scripture. But it is not our job to convince someone to be saved.
That's for the Holy Spirit to do".
This is a very clear teaching from the Bible.
---mima on 11/2/08


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Would somebody please tell me how they "sugar coat" what hell will be like????
---SusieB on 11/2/08


I believe our responsibility is to share the truth of the Gospel with others clearly and simply, using Scripture. But it is not our job to convince someone to be saved.
That's for the Holy Spirit to do.

Jhn 6:65 And he...(Jesus)... said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

If we present the Gospel accurately and clearly, No "sales job" on our part is needed. It may seem that a person is largely unresponsive, but later the Lord may bring our words to his mind in a more receptive moment.

We should present it kindly, but need not either "sugar coat" the truth, nor to present it with powerful persuasion.
---Donna66 on 11/1/08


The old!
You can bring a camel to water but you cant make him drink!
Unless you force it down his throat!

That means you are not a Christian, and you are right?
Aggressive! Ok here, I dont agree with you! For the tree is known by its fruit. Your fruit are judging a man. Did my lord tell you this man thinking is wrong? Did he tell you to judge him? Did he tell you to make his faith weak? I didnt think so, then why are you doing it. Are you so blind you do not see yourself? Well I see you and I hear your words. I am telling you, you a man are not a judge of the earth. So there!
---Frank on 11/1/08


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