Sow A Super Seed Doctrine
We were asked in the church to give a super seed offering of $50-$1,000 for our church anniversary. For what reasons we (members) do not know. Any thoughts?
Moderator - The sow a seed and God will make you rich is a false Word of Faith doctrine.
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---Robyn on 10/27/08
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pastors salaries has always been in the center of discussion. my dad was a pastor and when he passed away, the church told us that the salary my dad made was still in their bank. my dad chose to be pastor and God rewarded him but not with money. our family told the church to keep the money. my pastor today did not pastor us for money. many times our church didn't take enough money to give him anything but my point is..we pay our pastor very well but he has never ask for anything from us...we just know he deserves our best. besides what the church pays him, we have taken up special offerings to give him and his wife. If you have a great pastor, take care of him and his family.
---shira4368 on 9/22/12|
I am so thankful for my little church. every week the secretary puts a financial statement on the board that is very visible to everyone. I knew a girl who ask the pastor to see the financial statement and he told her it wasn't any of her business.....only God and the pastor could see it. that is so funny I almost died just thinking about it. sadly many churches are that way. that is why I love my pastor and my church....I praise God for him and his family
---shira4368 on 9/21/12|
Did He / She, give you the - this is good ground - spiel. Ask them if they will give you a written guarantee for a 30-60-100 fold return. Mark 4:8, Luke 6:38.
p.s. the first parable concerns those who would reject, or accept the word. The second verse is in general, and does not guarantee a financial windfall.
2p.s. run away, look for a true Church.
---Glenn on 9/20/12|
if your church has covert operations that involve you giving them your money for undisclosed reasons I suggest you remove yourself from this group. It would not matter what they call this offering it is a gimmick and of the worst kind when they are not willing to share its true purpose.
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/17/12|
I know of the $1000 dollar seed they are referring to. All your life you have lived has not been for any reason. As i see the religious channels that i do believe in god now. When i speak to others the truth an they listen a lot has lifted off of my shoulders but not enough. There is more than what man can do by himself. One man may carry the answer on his shoulders. But if none will listen then drastic changes will happen. Listen to your gut feeling right? well thats what i am doing now, an what all religous people are saying now is all true
---ethan_tinker on 9/17/12|
It is well understood that many Christians today have different beliefs, doctrines, and denominations. Whether or not a person's intention is to honor man or to honor God, there will be millions of people that will continue to support megachurches and televangelists (the moneychangers) at the expense of their families.
In this economic crisis, it's now more important than ever that the greed of man's religious system be exposed.
Neither pastors (of any size "church") nor televangelists will agree that Christians should not support the "moneychangers", but for the sake of society's children, it must become well understood that God does not want your money, He wants you to properly care for your children.
---more_excellent_way on 12/4/08|
While reading a definition of what the "synagogue of Satan" is I read seven things to be on watch for.(Red flags)
And the very first thing on the list was watch how the church and the leaders deal with money. Experience has shown me that this is an excellent policy.
---mima on 11/19/08|
"They are allowed to go an open mike and announce what they are giving."
I immediately thought of this: "Take heed that you do not do your charitable deeds before men, to be seen by them. Otherwise you have no reward from your Father in heaven. Therefore, when you do a charitable deed, do not sound a trumpet before you as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory from men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. But when you do a charitable deed, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, that your charitable deed may be in secret, and your Father who sees in secret will Himself reward you openly." (Matthew 6:1-4)
---Bobby3 on 11/11/08|
Some church members are still sowing super seed offerings at my church even though the anniversary has passed about two weeks ago. They are allowed to go an open mike and announce what they are giving. I guess,to be an example,to the others. Some were not feelign their small offerings of $25-$50 were not large enough and when their turn came for the mike. They announced their amounts very low. But the pastor told them to speak up and say it aloud if this was what they were able to give.
So many people are ill taught these days.
My pastor drives a fairly new car and so does his first lady( a brand new jaguar). I wish the members were that blessed and able to come out of the situations we are in.
---Robyn on 11/9/08|
I always was going to give to the church, if I had enough money, because the church was poor. It's too bad that the church had to close down . . .
the Methodist church in the North End.
---franc4747 on 11/6/08|
Susie ... You are SPOT ON!
Jesus actually told us NOT to build up treasures on earth.
---alan_of_UK on 11/3/08|
how come the pastor will say that their salary increased, able to afford to buy a house when they tell you to give $1000 seed money.
i agree with the moderator that it is a false doctrine.
---mike on 11/3/08|
Sounds like it is a money grabbing situation. If you can't give from the heart, then don't give anything at all. Because if you just give to get, God will not honor that at all. If the church was asking for donations to have a dinner for the anniversary of the church, that is fine I don't see anything wrong with that. We do that at my church and everyone contributes, because it benefits us all. But if you or anyone in the church doesn't know why it was asked to give money then I wouldn't give any money. The tithes that we give to my church, the money goes to the church. Paying utilities, and people in need in the church. If you don't know what your church is doing with the money you give/tithe, then I'd question the Pastor.
---Rebecca_D on 11/3/08|
Jesus's parable on sowing had nothing to do with money. It was strictly talking about the gospel. Jesus did not tell us to go out and get rich. He told us to go spread the gospel.
---SusieB on 11/1/08|
I believe sowing a seed actually means a word from God. I always hear God's voice in my heart saying, "that person needs a word of encouragement". The true fruit of the Spirit is not giving money, it is showing Love.
Now, I think at times God wants us to give money to show love. But I listen to God on this and give what he tells me to.
If they cannot tell you what it is for, then only give what God lays on your heart to give.
---miche3754 on 10/29/08|
christianity has become a profit making business using Malachi as a tool for televangelist to get rich. these televangelist / pastors are focused on 'giving your tithe' bec televangelist said the bible will bless you. they have a tithe mentality (give your tithe & 'poof' your life will be blessed/in order) & they use guilt shame blame fear for you to cough up the money. they use extortion (coersion) the people for personal gain. they also sell the word of god for profit (2 cor 2:17) but they forgot other teachings like work, skills, knowledge, understanding.
---mike on 10/29/08|
Jesus didn't ask for a "super seed", He not only DESTROYED the temple all by Himself, but He also built the ONE AND ONLY new one in His body...
"He spoke of the temple of His body".
We should worship in our own temple/"church"...
1 Corin. 3:16
"Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you?"
1 Corin. 6:19
"Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you...?".
God needs no building fund.
"and to build it in three days"
It's all man's scam money machine.
---more_excellent_way on 10/29/08|
.john, Paul was not talking about money in II Corinthians 9:6, but instead he was talking about willing to meet the needs of the saints, and by ministering to them in need then our own needs will become ministered to. "He thereupon that supplies seed to the sower and bread onto eating, may he supply and multiply the seed of you, and increase the fruits that righteousness of you." II Corinthians 9:10. "Charge the rich, that they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to give, willing to share." I Timothy 6:18.
---Eloy on 10/29/08|
In 2Cor.9 Paul says if you sow sparingly you will reap sparingly. He is specifically speaking of money here but this is a kingdom principle that applies to everything. We will reap what we sow. The tactics that some churches and televangelists use to get this money is very unGodly but nevertheless, the one who gives will be blessed.
---john on 10/28/08|
**I do not believe in building funds either. God pays for what He orders to build.
---donna8365 on 10/27/08**
You're quite right, Donna. If people want to build a church building, they should wait for God to lead them to buried treasure, or for the building to fall down out of the sky.
Question, Donna: Where did you expect the money to build to come from, except from the members of the church involved?
---katavasia on 10/28/08|
Televangelists and megachurhes today are scams. There is no no such thing as a super deluxe seed. There is no spiritual value in money. Churches today have game rooms because it is all a money making machine for the pastors that want bigger houses and more swimming pools.
God gave you a family at home to feed properly and care for (do not forsake your God-given responsibilities). He also gave you a job/bank account to pay your bills (your family is your ministry).
---more_excellent_way on 10/28/08|
When Satan lied and deceived the unlearned into believing that "sowing seed" wrongly meant "giving money", he took many gullible souls into bondage and cursing. If people would read what Jesus says about the seed sower (Luke 8:5-15), they would know that the seed is "the word of God", and "Not money." Jesus says, "The seed is the word of God." Luke 8:11. And corrupting this to sinfully mean, "give money" or "give a tithe", is one of the worst sacrilegious blasphemies you can commit against God's grace.
---Eloy on 10/28/08|
If people have extra money to sow now days, they can start by sending to organizations that feed people like Feed The Children.
---SusieB on 10/27/08|
One thought > I don't know your church. If God has you going there . . . you might get to know your leaders better and find out how they do things (o: I know there are people who say God will bless you if you give, but that He may bring you what is not money, but much better. But it's understood this is not for selfish purposes. My pastor of decades ago installed at least one toilet, himself, in our church while renting the other two floors of his triple decker. They failed to make ends meet and closed the church. I know what seems like a highly prosperous church, which pays a full-time missions director. They have travelled to Togo to baptize in the bush. I would not just categorize such a church.
---Bill_bila5659 on 10/27/08|
Super seed? Is that like a seed that comes from the planet Krypton?
But seriously, this idea of sowing a seed is typically used to get people to give money in hopes of receiving an amount that equals their 'seed' multipled by some factor. In other words, you 'sow' and later are supposed to 'reap' more. This type of giving is clearly selfish. The true reason for giving to a church is to bless OTHERS.
---Bobby3 on 10/27/08|
God loves a cheerful giver. Give exactly what God tells you to give. Not a penny more, not a penny less. This teaching is a teaching of greed. The ones becoming rich are those teaching it, not those following their teaching.
---RitaH on 10/27/08|
I agree with Moderator. Ask they WHY a SUPER seed? Seed is seed in the bible. It depends on where it falls is what makes it a good seed or a bad seed, never heard of SUPER seed.
God loves a cheeful giver, so whatever you give, give cheerfully.
I think you folks should ASK WHY. Even God says, "Ask of me, and I will give you the nations as thine inheritance."
I do not believe in building funds either. God pays for what He orders to build.
---donna8365 on 10/27/08|
I've noticed that those who preach seed-faith also say that their wallets are the field where you're supposed to sow your dollars.
NONE of them ever say, "Plant your seed to help relieve the needs of the oppressed."
---katavasia on 10/27/08|