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Does God Speak To Prophets

Does God speak to modern people in the same way he spoke to the prophets of the Old Testament? Why or why not?

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Amanda: "It's hard to tell."

When you see a prophet running from the people, you know he was telling the truth. Today's christians like to be told what they want to hear. You know, the tickling of the ears. Prophets do not conform to denominational "church" doctrines. That's why the two prophets in Revelation is mocked - even by christians. Prophets do not belong to any denominational church and therefore mocked because they don't belong, they don't conform to their church. The Jewish people didn't recognize Jesus when he was on earth and he is not recognized by today's christians because he, too, does not conform to denominational doctrines.
---Steveng on 4/17/09


It's hard to tell. People could be hearing their own voices, someone else's voice, or unfortunately they might have schizophrenia.

It's hard to tell if people still hear God today. The Bible describes God's voice as that "still, small voice," which is hard/difficult to hear amongst all of the others trying to talk to us in this world.
---Amanda on 4/17/09


Yes, Jesus does still speak to His prophets, but it's a matter of wether they're listening or not. He speaks through His Word and through the Holy Spirit, and on occasion, face to face. If Jesus didn't still speak to us, then Paul never would've commanded us to desire that we might prophesy more than any other gift. The gift of prophecy is merely the ablitly to hear what the Spirit is saying, and to declare it to the body of Christ or whoever the Lord commands you to declare it to. You see, Jesus didn't give us the Bible so that we might merely read and memorize what the Spirit has said, but rather so that we might read and remember how to hear what the Spirit is saying! All of His sheep hear His voice! The unbelievers hear only thunder!
---Bryan on 1/27/09


Well HALLELUJAH, God got on front page with this one. Don't come too close I may through up all over your unholy shoes if you don't stop putting Satan before God.
---catherine on 12/12/08


God spoke to the prophets because they were devout men of prayer who sought God through the oral and written law and the prophets.
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look at all of the times that God stressed the necessity to hear His voice. connected with scripture dealing with what a devout believer declares concerning His word.
look at what Jesus said, "My sheep hear My voice."
nothing has changed.
---opalgal on 12/12/08




And, it is more important to respect God than to worry about when He is going to talk to you. Respect God and He might give you a word or two, now and then. And I am not talking the Bible, but am talking face to face with the living God.
---catherine on 12/11/08


Yes, God can still talk. Just like He talked to Moses and all those great men. He really does. There are however, some conditions. Moses, Paul and all the rest, were chosen by God and they were close to God. So, they got talked to by God. Same today. . Same old conditions. Chosen, close by and to God.
---catherine on 12/11/08


** Thanks for the answers, but how do we know that every Biblical prophet was truly hearing God's voice? **

A Biblical prophet, by defintion, DID truly hear the voice of God.
---katavasia on 12/11/08

It is provable. As in a court of Law. All witnesses testify to the same conclusion. Or not. As a juror....you determine truth.

As a defendant your choice is what you live.

Example two witnesses, written at different times.
Heb 8:8-10, Jer 31:31-33
These are further witnessed other places. Always same conclusion.
Do you know someone that has these mentioned above naturally? Human but struggle? Life Witness.
Confirm:Rom 7:23But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind,
---Trav on 12/11/08


** Thanks for the answers, but how do we know that every Biblical prophet was truly hearing God's voice? **

A Biblical prophet, by defintion, DID truly hear the voice of God.
---katavasia on 12/11/08


The question is, who is your teacher? Many study and memorize bible but are very confused and know not simple truth of Gospel. Holy Spirit should be the teacher. HE will lead you into all truth.
---duane on 12/10/08
Duane is proven right.
2nd is scripture....witnessing scripture. These testimoney's turn lights on.

Was personally provoked to prove a man of GOD wrong. Scripture witnessed him correct.

Started with concordance, (computerized now) key words:
1. CHOSEN
2. EVERLASTING
3. FOR EVER
4. COVENANT
5. REDEEM=
6. SHEEP
7. PROPHET
8. LOVED
9. ONLY
10.TWELVE
11.TEN
ETC,ETC,ETC. All scripture stands united with witnesses. All is confusion without them. Denom's are witnessing proof.
---Trav on 12/11/08




The question is, who is your teacher? Many study and memorize the bible but are very confused and know not the simple truth of the Gospel. The Holy Spirit should be the teacher. HE will lead you into all truth.
---duane on 12/10/08


Steveng: I (once again) disagree with you. I do believe that we ought to use reference materials to aid us in our study of Scripture. Few of us possess the requisite knowledge for adequate comprehension of some of the biblical texts, and a thorough study of especially the more difficult passages would benefit one greatly. Your method of 'meditation' would likely open the door to idiosyncratic interpretations of Scripture, possibly deviating significantly from the intended meaning of a passage. Therefore, I would disagree with reading and passively awaiting some sort of revelation from the Holy Spirit. Instead, this ought to be an active process (seeking), reading carefully the words the Holy Spirit has spoken to us through Scripture.
---Bobby3 on 12/9/08


Bobby3: "What exactly does it mean to 'meditate' rather than 'study'?"

Ten years ago I was doing consulting work for a client. I provided a simple solution to his problem, but he turned it down because it was too simple.

Today's Christians are the same way. They take a simple verse and study it to death. They bring together opinionated authors, concordances and other Christian reference material to study it. Studying takes a worldly approach to knowing God and doesn't consider the Holy Spirit.

Now meditating, on the other hand, on the verses is pondering its meaning. This is where the Holy Spirit helps you.
---Steveng on 12/8/08


"Studying Scripture takes you away from God, meditating on the Word of God gets you closer."

This is the first time I've heard someone assert that studying takes one AWAY FROM God. What exactly does it mean to 'meditate' rather than 'study'? Paul recommends the study of Scripture in his second letter to Timothy (2Tim3:14-17).

"Unfortunately most Christians today have the knowledge of God, but deny his power."

However, the other side of the coin is a Christian who knows little about the content of Scriptures and is instead relying on 'feelings' and such. Being a disciple means being a student, which would require study.
---Bobby3 on 12/8/08


Thanks for the answers, but how do we know that every Biblical prophet was truly hearing God's voice?

Is studying scripture the only way to come closer to God?
---Deb on 12/5/08
These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
Acts 17:10-12 (in Context) Acts 17 (Whole Chapter)

Study to see what is truth. Trust no Doctrines of men with your soul or your family's souls. Men will point...take two or more scripture witnesses and prove them out.

Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
1 Peter 1:9-11
---Trav on 12/8/08


Thanks Guys,

But how do we know Moses ALWAYS heard God, and that Satan NEVER sneaked in?

Steveng, are you saying that instead of taking scripture literally, it is up to us to discern what is true?

Trav, do you believe everything in the bible is of God? That there are no mistakes at all?

Thanks for the dialogue.
---Deb on 12/8/08


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Thanks for the answers, but how do we know that every Biblical prophet was truly hearing God's voice?

Is studying scripture the only way to come closer to God?
---Deb on 12/5/08
If you would permit me a testimony. I set out to prove a man wrong that used scripture. I had been taught other scripture doctrines. These did not pass the prophet test.
My point?
Prophets of GOD testimoney's always is proven by occurrence. They will never miss. Makes sense if GOD is in control right?
I've personally proven the prophets. You can do it today,tomorrow and the rest of your life.
Only one can open your eyes though. You have to realize you are blind first then to ask....with all your being. No exceptions.
---Trav on 12/8/08


Deb: "Is studying scripture the only way to come closer to God?"

Studying Scripture takes you away from God, meditating on the Word of God gets you closer. Memorizing verses takes you away from God, understanding them takes you closer. When you met a new friend, do you study that person? Of course not. You learn about your friend through conversation. That's what God wants you to do. Reading the Bible brings you the knowledge of God and his relationship with his people, but conversing with him brings you closer to him. He wants an intimate personal relationship with you. Unfortunately most Christians today have the knowledge of God, but deny his power.
---Steveng on 12/5/08


GOD gave to Moses rules about seeing if a prophet was false or true. Any Prophet who contridicted Moses was false. Any prophet who made untrue predictions was false.

So all they had to do was read the Scriptures to know.
---Samuel on 12/5/08


Thanks for the answers, but how do we know that every Biblical prophet was truly hearing God's voice?

Is studying scripture the only way to come closer to God?
---Deb on 12/5/08


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Bobby3: "Your view implies that Scripture is inadequate."

No, it's man's interpretation that will make him believe a lie.

"But notice how Jesus counters Satan's words. Jesus shoots Scripture (properly interpreted, of course) right back at him."

Unfortunatley, most Christian do not know the truth to use the Scripture as a shield against Satan.
---Steveng on 12/4/08


Deb: "How does a person know if they're hearing Satan or God? We know Satan hides, pretends to be God. Satan is the master liar!"

This is the reason Christians must know the bible inside and out. This is the ONLY way for a Christian to hear God and not Satan. Unfortunately, most Christians today know only a small fraction of the word of God. Christians have a superficial knowledge of God, rarely delving into the heart of God. They know about God, but doesn't know his power. How can a Christian use the shield of God when it is only half complete?
---Steveng on 12/4/08


Deb: "How do we know that every O.T. prophet who spoke with a clear conscience, believing they were hearing God, actually did? The master deceiver can fool anyone."

Because they didn't study the Word of God, they meditated on it daily. Most christians study the bible, but rarely meditate on God's Word. Christians study the verses given to them by a preacher. They bring together concordances, books by other authors and other Christian references, but never relying just on the Holy Spirit for guidance. This is why we have prophets and apostles today to keep Christians on the stright and narrow path to the Kingdom of God. But most Christians don't listen to them.
---Steveng on 12/4/08


StevenG,

How does a person know if they're hearing Satan or God? We know Satan hides, pretends to be God. Satan is the master liar!

How do we know that every O.T. prophet who spoke with a clear conscience, believing they were hearing God, actually did? The master deceiver can fool anyone.

Thanks!
---Deb on 12/3/08


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Steveng: "Satan knows Scripture backwards and forwards...He even used Scripture to convince Jesus to side with him."

Your view implies that Scripture is inadequate. You reason this from that fact that some twist it and use it to deceive others. You cite how Satan tried to do this during the 40 days/nights Jesus was tempted in the wilderness. But notice how Jesus counters Satan's words. Jesus shoots Scripture (properly interpreted, of course) right back at him. Here, Jesus upholds the authority of Scripture. If anything, this incident should teach us, not that we need a supplement to Scripture, but that we should study and know the Bible very well. That way, we are less susceptible to trickery.
---Bobby3 on 12/3/08


Yes. "Who which from of God, hears these words of God. And the sheep hear his voice: and he calls his own sheep by name, and leads them out. And when he puts forward his own sheep, he goes before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice." John 8:47+ 10:3,4.
---Eloy on 12/4/08


Bobby3: "What does Satan's knowledge of what is written have to do with the revelation of God to His people?"

Satan knows Scripture backwards and forwards. He uses Scripture to confuse Christians. He even used Scripture to convince Jesus to side with him. And he uses Scripture to convince Christians and others to side with him. And some do follow.

"How does Satan's knowledge of what is written prove there are prophets living among us today?"

Without prophets, Christians are led astray.
---Steveng on 12/3/08


LAST THING:

"The Scripture is not entire for Satan knows what is written, but God reveals other things to His people."

What does Satan's knowledge of what is written have to do with the revelation of God to His people? How does Satan's knowledge of what is written prove there are prophets living among us today?
---Bobby3 on 12/2/08


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G-d in times past spoke to man through visions and dreams, through Angels and Messengers, as He still does today, but at these last days He has choosen to talk to us Himself, J-sus. G-d will never say anything to us the contradicts His Word the Bible. He will only confirm what He has already said. He is eternal and His Word is eternally true. At times past G-d would come and visit a person, but now G-d Himself J-sus has choosen to come into our hearts and live with us forever never to depart, never to doubt, never to be saperated from us again. He is faithfull even when we are Faithless. G-d Bless
---Tanner on 12/2/08


**He has talked to me just like He did Moses and those people. Visions oh my yes.**

God told me to tell you He never did any such thing. So there.

BTW--He asked me to ask you if your walls have gotten saved yet. (You said that you preached to the walls one time.)
---katavasia on 12/3/08


PART1

Steveng: Kinda had a feeling you'd have something to say...

"The apostles were told to go out into the world without scrip allowing the Holy Spirit talk through them."

I want to know what verses speak of this particular scenario. If I recall correctly, the apostles always referred to the OT Scripture in their speeches (as recorded in Acts) as well as in their writings (the Epistles). Besides, the Scripture as we know it was NOT complete at this time, so this objection of yours doesn't work.
---Bobby3 on 12/2/08


PART2

"...why would God send two prophets mentioned in Revelation? Should we believe the two prophets when they appear?"

I'll answer this question with a question: Why would John warn us about adding to the words of prophecy contained within his Book (Rev22:18)?

"Why would the office of the prophet be mentioned in the bible?"

Because there were prophets when the Bible was written. It's like saying, 'Why would animal sacrifices be mentioned in the Bible?'
---Bobby3 on 12/2/08


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Bobby3: "...because now we have Scripture in its entirity. (Look up Rev22)"

The apostles were told to go out into the world without scrip allowing the Holy Spirit talk through them.

If you believe that the Bible is all we need, why would God send two prophets mentioned in Revelation? Sould we believe the two prophets when they appear?

Why would the office of the prophet be mentioned in the bible?

The Scripture is not entire for Satan knows what is written, but God reveals other things to His people.
---Steveng on 12/2/08


Those in OT times had not the access to the closed cannon of Scripture as we do today. Therefore, it was necessary for the Lord to speak to these individuals in a manner that was different from the way He speaks to us today. In other words, He does NOT speak to us the way He did then because now we have Scripture in its entirity. (Look up Rev22)
---Bobby3 on 12/2/08


The spirit of God will be poured out at the end of time. It's unfortunate that only a few will take that power and preach the true gospel. Today's christians are like the people in the says of Noah, they have the knowledge of God, but not the power of God. Most christians today stop at being baptised by water in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, but never go beyond that to be baptised by the Holy Spirit.

God is the same when he spoke to the prophets of old, when he spoke to the apostles, and he continues to speak to the few christians today who are willing to listen.
---Steveng on 12/1/08


Oh yes He does. I don't see how anyone can say He doesn't, just because He doesn't talk to you. He has talked to me just like He did Moses and those people. Visions oh my yes. Gotten in my face a few times. Above my head a few times. Kept me awake at nights. Don't tell me He doesn't talk to His prophet. Oh yes He does. My Saviour liveth.
---catherine on 12/1/08


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God speaks to me all the time, want to know why? Because I live in His word.

His voice is His word.

I asked God "Lord do you really love me?"

I was in the Word of God all day. When I got to Chapter 16, the verse, "For the Father Himself loves you" leaped into my Spirit and I rejoiced so gladly and Praised and Worshipped Father God and Jesus for hours.

Other things the Lord has spoken to me are: "All the ways of the Lord are loving and faithful." Psalm 25:10.
"He makes the barren woman to dwell in the house as a joyful mother of children." Forget what Psalm that's from.
His word is His voice - study His word and you will hear his voice.
---donna8365 on 12/1/08


No he doesn't. Because we do not seek God like they did in the bible. We have like a 15 minute prayer and expect an answer from God within the next 5 minutes. We don't have patience on God. We don't seek the gifts of the Holy Ghost like we should. We are lazy and too comfortable in our ways. That is why we aren't getting closer to God like we once was. Plus it is hard for God to speak to us when our mouth is open. We need to have open ears, an open heart and a closed mouth. And drop to our knees and seek God with a humble heart.
---Rebecca_D on 12/1/08


The Bible warns about true Prophets. Yet in the New Testament church prophets operated and there is no reason they cannot operate today.

The problem is to tell the difference.

True prophets are against sin. All sin not just some. The main job of a prophet is not to preach smooth things and lull people to sleep. Nor to scratch itching ears with odd teachings.

The Job of a prophet is not to become rich. But to preach the word and warn people against those who reject the Bible as the final authority in all matters.
---Samuel on 12/1/08


Most Excellent Way~ Thank you for those WISE words!!
---Anne on 12/1/08


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There are 144,000 FirstFruits dedicated to God, coming soon, and there are also two Witnesses called Prophets who hold Office.

With regard to the gifting of Prophecy, God can speak at Will through anyone, for The Kingdom is at Hand, The Right Hand of God and The Power of God extant among the peoples and especially The Chosen People of God who are called, faithful, and chosen as written. The Kingdom advances through the Prophet Testimony of John The Baptist, therefore the advancement of Kingdom is at the Testimony of Jesus which is The Spirit of Prophecy.
---jack_david on 12/1/08


Stay away from people who call themselves prophets. They are puffed up and seek fame in many ways because their intention is to glorify themselves, not Jesus.This goes for pastors, scholars, and churchgoers alike.

Hebrews 1:1
"In many and various ways God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets...".

Mankind (the 6th day creation) teaches a self-serving spirituality based on fame and money. There are many false beliefs (more than you know) because people want to imagine themselves as prophets and see-ers.

GOD is the only hero in Christianity.
---more_excellent_ways on 12/1/08


Yes,He does.The Bible says Ye,I am God I change not.As some have already said often we're too busy to hear him.I am noone of importance except to God who considers all important and I have heard His voice usually telling me what to do but ocassionaly a word for someone else.
---shirley on 11/30/08


Of course, God can speak through prophets.

But my own observation is that most of these people who are reputed to be prophets, or more generally call themselves prophets, speak in themselves and ran out of God's words years ago--if they ever had any.
---katavasia on 11/30/08


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"When you are close to God and have the Holy Spirit you can hear Him clearly."

That is the truth!
---Pharisee on 11/30/08


Yes, God does speak to modern day people as He did the prophets of the Bible times. When you are close to God and have the Holy Spirit you can hear Him clearly. The problem is that today we are too busy and caught up in our daily lives to hear Him.
When you hear "the little" voice inside of you, and it is something for the good, it is usually God. Our conscience is given by God. But yes, He clearly speaks to and through modern people. We have to be open and drawn close to him.
---amy on 11/29/08


This is a good question.
The verse that throws everything- students in confusion is when Jesus stated,while speaking to a crowd of people,in response to his Father in heaven,"ye have never seen his shape or heard his voice".
From this there will come much reconsideration as to who spoke what .
---earl on 11/29/08


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