\\Such an ordination is legitimate with regards to the secular requiements of U.S. law, but is not necessarily compatible with Biblical requiements.\\
There are no requirements for ordination at US law.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/19/12|
\\A good baptist church\\
isn't that an oxymoron?
---James_L on 2/16/12|
how do i become a pastor
---jon_coca on 2/14/12|
StrongAxe, agreed. I just got the ordination for fun. I've never used it for anything. :)
---John.usa on 11/27/11|
Shira, sorry, I guess I misunderstood you. My mistake.
---John.usa on 11/27/11|
You said: 5. A good baptist church will
I don't recall the Bible having any such requirement. Are you trying to say that only Baptists have legitimate pastors?
Such an ordination is legitimate with regards to the secular requiements of U.S. law, but is not necessarily compatible with Biblical requiements.
---StrongAxe on 11/27/11|
Once a person has laid a solid foundation into the teachings of Christ (not of a deniminational education), then that person can then bring together a couple of people every day to minister to. As that church grows and God sees in your heart that you are faithful in your populating the Kingdom of God, he will show approval and you are then to become a pastor. No worldly denominational church teachings/formal education will suffice. When a person decides to grow his church then God will direct his path.
Time is short, the harvest is plenty, but the workers are few.
---Steveng on 11/27/11|
johnusa, you are welcome. I wouldn't listen to any "preacher" that got his credentials from the internet. Wouldn't listen to one who got his ordination paper from the internet and I surely wouldn't listen to one who wasn't God called.
---shira4368 on 11/27/11|
Shira, thanks. I appreciate your confidence in me. :)
---John.usa on 11/26/11|
to be a pastor follow the directions below:
1. be saved
2. Be called to preach by God
3. Study to show thyself
4. must be ordained
5. A good baptist church will
6. thus you are now a pastor
---shira4368 on 11/26/11|
johnusa, I know some preachers like you. They fill many pulpits in the world.
---shira4368 on 11/26/11|
You can go online and become ordained immediataly by the Universal Life Church, for free. And it's a legal ordination. I did it in 1977
---John.usa on 11/26/11|
**//You have to admit that the Scriptures show that the apostles had the best academic and spiritual formation available at the time!//
I am not sure about the "best academic" education, unless that was Jesus.**
That's what I was saying.
** It's very sad to listen to someone ramble on without a continuity of thought.**
You see that all the time on these blogs.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/25/11|
Rod4Him & Trav: Please do not be so much disturbed about some "Pastors" who are not doing the right thing. Even God talked in Jer.23 of bad pastors & prophets, the Lord Jesus in Matt.24:24 talked about false Christs & prophets. So, watch & pray, listen to & fellowship with the good ones.
---Adetunji on 11/24/11|
//You have to admit that the Scriptures show that the apostles had the best academic and spiritual formation available at the time!//
I am not sure about the "best academic" education, unless that was Jesus. But that certainly would have been a great education. I do believe that if someone is going to speak in public that they should have some type of education. It's very sad to listen to someone ramble on without a continuity of thought.
---Rod4Him on 11/23/11|
**//Step2: Attend a Pastor school or college.//
Any scripture for this?**
You have to admit that the Scriptures show that the apostles had the best academic and spiritual formation available at the time!
Keep in mind that in most churches, finishing seminary successfully does NOT guarantee ordination. And ordination does NOT guarantee being placed in a pastorate.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/23/11|
Interesting..."Pastors" are equated with Abraham and Moses. Now that is scary. Hardly any of these "pastors" agree with each other, yet they are "Abraham and Moses?"
I am really at a loss of words. Although I've heard that before, I am stunned to see it in writing.
Help me out here, a man "pastor" says he is "called," and people are to listen and equate them with Abraham and Moses? Where's the Pope fit into this?
---Rod4Him on 11/23/11|
Rod4Him: Scripture for Step1: [God calls the one HE uses] is the whole Bible but 3 examples shall be mentioned, Noah Gen.6: 13-22, Abraham Gen.12, Moses Exod.3. Step2: The Lord Jesus started calling the disciples John 1:38, they learnt from HIM before HE sent them out to preach Matt.10.
---Adetunji on 11/23/11|
//Step1: God has to call you to be a Pastor(God calls everybody HE uses).//
Any scripture for this? So if someone pronounces that God has called him/her, others are supposed to believe them?
//Step2: Attend a Pastor school or college.//
Any scripture for this?
//Step3: God sends you into Ministry either in a Church or in other fields.//
...so anyone who feels "called" should be able to knock on a church door and say, "Here I am, God sent me."
---Rod4Him on 11/21/11|
Step1: God has to call you to be a Pastor(God calls everybody HE uses). Step2: Attend a Pastor school or college. Step3: God sends you into Ministry either in a Church or in other fields.
---Adetunji on 11/21/11|
Since then i have sought out god it has been a long hard struggle for me and didnt realize i was seeking god until about 3 months ago,
---rian on 11/8/11
Rian, sounds like he's looking for you. Ask him.
I'm asking with ya. He likes his men broken... he is the re-pairer.
The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart, and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.
The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.
He healeth the broken in heart, and bindeth up their wounds.
---Trav on 11/11/11|
Tony, to become a pastor you must be born again then if God wants you to be a pastor, He will call you to preach. When God is in it all, you will no doubt have a ministry and it may or may not be pastor of a church. When God calls you to preach, you will know it in your heart and there won't be any doubt about it. You Will Know.
---shira5468 on 11/11/11|
So i must say...i took that "spiritual gift test" and sometimes it does not apply to "becoming a pastor"...i served in the military for 6 years got retired for ptsd and other things. I definatly was not a follower of jesus or god...as a matter of a fact i was mad at them since i was a kid for letting the things happen to me that did happen...2 years ago i attempted suicide and only...only reason i am alive is by the grace of god. all the doctors told my family is i wont make it if i do ill be a vegetable and im not and they are still in shock of how i came outa coma just fine. Since then i have sought out god it has been a long hard struggle for me and didnt realize i was seeking god until about 3 months ago,
---rian on 11/8/11|
MIC - I was NOT calling you stupid, I was ONLY giving an example. Sorry if I came off that way, and thank you for telling me that's how you felt. I try to love everybody. I do however encourage you to let the Holy Spirit teach you and lead you. You will be better off for it.
---Leslie on 12/15/08|
Leslie:- I am just a simple Humble man of no great intelligence no Phd LLb or the like degrees.It is what comes to my mind what I write by the grace of God and the H/S,that I write here and my understanding of HIS WORD.Call me any name which comes to your fertile mind but remember Gods command "Love one another as I have loved you"
---MIC on 12/13/08|
If serious about becoming a pastor find a seminary consistent with your denomination's polity. Find out seminary's requirements for admission,their curriculum. Submit necessary transcripts and recommendations. Complete course of study, graduate with a minimum Masters in Divinity. Follow polity of you denomination for admission to the clergy.
---Phil_the_Elder on 12/5/08
Seminary's better known as "Cemetarys". Carefully steering you around blind spots for them. Which is about 2/3rds of scripture. You will learn their history that supports their doctrine but, not scripture. Helpful if the Lord allows you to get free.
Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
---Trav on 12/13/08|
It is okay for a person to go to college to obtain bible degrees, but that doesn't make them a Pastor nor a Preacher. If God has called them to Pastor they don't need to go to college to obtain a line of degrees or certificates. That is a prefrence, If a church excepts people that have degrees or certificates only and doesn't care if their called by God to preach, they are in the wrong. If a person wants to further their education about the word that is fine, but they better make sure they are called by God before they get behind that pulpit. One thing about it, regardless what happened in a Pastor's past, should stay in the past for it is under the blood. A church shouldn't turn a man called by God away just because he has been divorced.
---Rebecca_D on 12/12/08|
Leslie,- After the quotes presented Did the H/S inspire you to call me STUPID.if so then you better re-examine the source of this Spirit as told byPeter in acts 5:3-9Hoever you may continue in your quest.
---MIC on 12/12/08|
MIC- I can assure you that what I said IS Biblical. We call them the Gifts of the Spirit, because the Holy Spirit is the ONLY one that can give them to us (ie: gift of the Pastor). John 15:16 says that God ordains us. The Holy Spirit teaches us (John 14:26, 1 Corinthians 1:19-20,25, 1 Corinthians 2:6-16, 1 John 2:27). You can have your PHD in every subject out there, but if the Holy Spirit does not teach you (like Jesus taught the disciples), then you are stupid. God made wisdom & knowledge, and is wisdom & knowledge - who better to get it from then "straight from the horses mouth" so to speak. Let the Holy Spirit teach and ordain you.
---Leslie on 12/12/08|
Leslie:-Is this Christian Truth?"only God can make you a Pastor (take the CN SPIRITUAL GIFTS TEST) Is God present there?Then practice preaching sermons in front of people>!!!!!May God have mercy on your soul if what you preach causes others to go astray.
---MIC on 12/10/08|
ONLY God can make you a Pastor. First find out if you have this gift (Christianet Spiritual Gifts Test). If you don't have this gift, then just don't become a Pastor. If you do have this gift, then pray for God to ordain you as a Pastor. Then find out what the gift of the Pastor intails (what are the aspects of being a Pastor). Then pray to see if God wants you to go to school or not, and if so, what school. Remember to ALWAYS let the Holy Spirit teach you, NOT man. Then, practice preaching sermons in front of people.
---Leslie on 12/10/08|
Christians are all to preach.
Mark 16:15 And He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.
But becoming a pastor is different, that is given by God and only God.
Eph 4:11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers,
So if you believe your "called" don't let anyone tell you otherwise, however, seek and prepare yourself for the office. Knowledge of your calling may be shared with you years before actual holding of the office. We are not always given the details of how ,when, where, just do all you can do and let God do the rest. Stay in prayer.
---sam on 12/9/08|
By being called by God. If God hasn't called you to become a Pastor of a church, then don't become one. There are many who become Pastors/Preachers and are not called by God so therefore they do not have the anointing of God. And their church won't grow spiritually. It may grow in numbers, but God doesn't care about numbers he cares about how much you are growing in him. Bottom line if your not called by God to Pastor, then don't.
---Rebecca_D on 12/9/08|
donna8365 asks, "Is there a description for Pastors like there is Bishops and Deasons?" I offer > "bishop" means "overseer", and a *pastor* oversees the sheep of Jesus. And I notice how a man needs to be "tested" "first" (1 Timothy 3:10) in his own home, to see if he knows how to "manage his own household" (to *oversee* his own home). This tests if he can rule and care for people in a family caring and sharing way, like a qualified Jesus pastor does > "nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." (1 Peter 5:3) He needs first to become an *example* of making his marriage work and how to take care of his kids.
---Bill_bila5659 on 12/6/08|
If "you" want to become a pastor Tony, why?
---Leon on 12/5/08|
If God truly called you to this place, then you'll know. After that you do not need to spend tons of money in a Seminary school when you have the textbook for free, aka the bible, free resources via internet,etc.. but as far as a license/certificate etc... I went through
Universal Life Church & got ordained for free and it is legal, so i can perform wedding cerimonies/funerals/baptisims etc.. without having to minister over a church since God didnot call me to be a Pastor but a minister,that was back then over 3 rys ago, now today I gave my first sermon at the church(as a gust speaker) and though I am a minister,I am not called to pastor, but if you are called to pastor then I'd go get a free ordination & study your bible.
---candice on 12/5/08|
The Lord calls preachers and the Lord ordains preachers. The church simply recognizes the gift. Having the desire to preach doesn't make one a preacher. It is a noble desire, but real pastors are called by God and have a burning desire that never goes out.
---trey on 12/5/08|
I am in agreement that there must be an anointing by God. I have good skills and education in this area however I honestly believe that I have never been called. I serve the best that I can in a volunteer capacity but it would be wrong and fruitless for me to pursue the profession without an anointing. The legal answer is that you simply obtain a license, the Godly answer is that you are given license to serve by God.
---TIMOTHY on 12/5/08|
If you are serious about becoming a pastor you should find a seminary consistent with your denomination's polity. Find out the seminary's requirements for admission and their curriculum. Submit necessary transcripts and recommendations. Complete the course of study and graduate with a minimum of as Masters in Divinity. Follow the polity of you denomination for admission to the clergy.
---Phil_the_Elder on 12/5/08|
Is there a description for Pastors like there is Bishops and Deasons?
Now a bishop must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, sensible, dignified, hospitable, an apt teacher, no drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome. He must manage his own household well, keeping his children submissive and respectful in every way, for if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how can he care for God's church? He must not be a recent convert, or he may be puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil, moreover he must be well thought of by outsiders, or he may fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. Deacons likewise must be serious, not double-tongued, not addicted to much wine,
---donna8365 on 12/5/08|
God has to call/appoint you. He won't confuse this issue, nothing else in your life will you be able to do as well. I knew when I was saved. I doubted because I wasn't really sure I wanted it, but he proved it again and again.
I'm a good cook, a good drummer, a good electrician, a good ______ <---that blank can be filled in with almost anything I've done. What I can't fill it in with is pastor because I am endowed for that by God.
You can go to school and BUY an education essentially but then you're no different than an illegal alien taking someone's job where it clearly doesn't belong to you, and who knows how God will deal with you if you have not been called and spurn his rebuke. Romans 12:3
---Pharisee on 12/5/08|