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False Prophet & Anti-Christ

Is Rick Warren the False Prophet and President Obama the Anti-Christ?

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Trav - Where of heard should come is already in the world ------- 1 John 4:3

In John 1 here Trav - It's say's - Come -already in the world - Not the spirit of the antichrist, all the verses you have mention of coarse I know, With this topic people think of the movie of the Omen and other books and movies, - and a hundred like it, And that's what there looking for, -I believe this is all symbolic in nature, war of Armageddon , spiritual war - not actual. A war of the sword - word of God which is going on, It will be as the day of Noah - Business a usual,If it was some super natural thing going on or war - it would not be that , that's my two cents for the day !
---RichardC on 9/17/14


\\I'm free, totally free of all men's denom-doctrines. \

So am I.

That's why I'm Orthodox.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/17/14


Samuel, your mistaken.
The only person Is Jesus. God the Father dwelt In Him, which Is Spirit. Colo. 2 v 9.
Jesus said, I and my Father are 1, ( Not 2 or 3 )
I have No more to say.
---Lawrence on 9/16/14

Liked your scriptural answer.
There is no word "trinity" in scripture. I'm free, totally free of all men's denom-doctrines. More especially the R.C. interpretations. Which are usually to their own confusion.
Mat_15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Mar_7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Col_2:22 Which all are to perish with the using,) after the commandments and doctrines of men?
---Trav on 9/17/14


Samuel, your mistaken.
The only person Is Jesus. God the Father dwelt In Him, which Is Spirit. Colo. 2 v 9.
Jesus said, I and my Father are 1, ( Not 2 or 3 )

My name is Lawrence, I portray 3 aspects, a daddy to my 2 daughters, a son to my parents, & a member of cnet, I'm only 1 person. I'm Not triune, just 1. God Is The Same.

I'm so Glad God brought me out from the Deceiving trinity harlot religion, Rev. 17 v's 4 - 5 - 6. Not to read their Damnable books & literature to put me farther in their Deceiving hole.

I have No more to say.
---Lawrence on 9/16/14


Lawrence your mistake was looking for gods. The Trinity is one GOD three persons.

I have read the entire Bible over 15 times and the New Testament more than that.

I have studied this topic from History and from the Seventh day Adventist church being divided on the trinity and working it out.

I post what the Bible says, your words contradict the Bible verses.

You judge Christians on a doctrine as if we are saved by correct doctrine and not saved by Grace.

Your words often drip hate and sarcasm, you condemn people to an eternal burning hell as if it was a light unimportant thing showing no love or caring for others.

The Pharisees studied the Bible but had no love.

May GOD be merciful to you.
---Samuelbb7 on 9/16/14




( Already is in the world : - antichrist ...... - So you people are looking for a two thousand year old man )
---RichardC on 9/15/14

Anti Christ as a people. Those calling themselves jews rejected/denied him....still do today. Others perhaps.
1Jn_2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn_4:3 every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come, even now already is it in the world.
2Jn_1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
---Trav on 9/16/14


samuel
I've studied the BIble from cover to cover. If there was a triune godhead, scripture would have said, In the beginning gods created.
Since not, I did find, the triune Darkness of the devil, the devil the false prophet n the antichrist.
For those that believe in the fictitious trinity, God put them In Rev. 17 vs 4 5 6. The harlot trinity churchs, AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. Yes Abominations that I've read on wsites, atheist going to heaven, pope is god here on earth, don't have to believe in god to go to heaven. Yes, trinity Abominations. I'm glad I'm Not in it.
---Lawrence on 9/16/14


Lawrence:

You said For Sure, the devil, the false prophet & the antichrist Is the Only trinity found in The Word of God.

Curious, I don't recall these three ever being mentioned together. Only the last two. Besides, the Bible never mentiones "the antichrist", merely "the beast", which popular culture has renamed "the antichrist".

However, the Bible DOES explicitly mention, in Matthew 28:19:
"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost"

I see this is YET ANOTHER thread you have hijacked for trinity-bashing. Are you capable of discussing ANY other subject without doing this?
---StrongAxe on 9/16/14


Hahaha looks like they Both are neither
---Jasper on 9/16/14


Well Lawrence you repent it with no proof often enough and maybe some who do not study the Bible will believe it.

But when you take the time and effort to study all the Bible and read all it is said then you will believe in the Trinity.

But take heart a group is saying that Seventh day Adventist to not believe in the trinity because some use a wrong phrase.

So according to this group we are not Trinitarians and so not lost by your judgment.
---Samuelbb7 on 9/15/14




Oxford dictionaries - Trinity - The christian Godhead - as One good in three persons - Father - Son - and holy Spirit,

Colossians 2,9 - For in him dwells fullness of the Godhead bodily,

1 John 5:7 - For there are three that bear witness in earth, the Father the Word, ,and the holy ghost, and these three are one,

John 1:14 - And the Word was made flesh, and dwell among us, ( and we beheld his glory, the glory as only begotten of the father,) full of grace and truth,
---RichardC on 9/15/14


Lawrence, you are just spinning your wheels denying the trinity. You are not convincing anyone of anything because those if us who study the bible knows the truth. Everyone else on this site knows too.
---shira4368 on 9/15/14


1 John 4:3 - Every believe spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God , and this is that spirit of the antichrist , Whereof ye have heard that should come: and even now already is in the world,

( Already is in the world : - antichrist was in the world when Christ was on Earth - So you people are looking for a two thousand year old man )
---RichardC on 9/15/14


Obama maybe & maybe leading upto it. God knows.

For Sure, the devil, the false prophet & the antichrist Is the Only trinity found in The Word of God.
---Lawrence on 9/15/14


I dont really think rick Warren is the false prophet but mr. obama sure could truly be the antichrist.
---Hector on 2/2/09


If you truly want to know who those people are who have the spirit of the Anti-Christ, all you need to do is a sincere and indepth research of those who are of the Word of Faith Movement.

Even though they say they are Christian and are spreading the Gospel of Christ, I have heard too many of them deny, reject, and denounce Christ.
---Rob on 2/2/09


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I don't know that all these people are the anti-christ. You'll said the same thing about president Bush. I have a real problem with some of this stuff. You have to understand what the anti-christ really is. And I saw nothing about president Bush that indicated as such. And I do not know Obama well enough to judge him on this. Thank you.
---catherine on 2/1/09


You know that I want to be able to say as an African American Christian Pastor that I disagree that Obama is the anti christ but I cant, he is like what I expect from what I have read that he is exactly that. However he is still the best choice for President but the Anti Christ is supposed to be the best choice for world leader.
---Kayte on 1/30/09


If someone were to shoot Obama, and he came back to life, then I guess we could be pretty sure that he's the antichrist, but I'm not so sure Warren would go for that! Lol! Although I don't agree with all of Warren's teachings, and I definately disagree with our unbelieving president, I wouldn't be to quick to point the finger at either of them. We need to pray that Obama gets saved, and that Rick Warren is lead and driven by the authority of the Holy Spirit, and nothing else!
---Bryan on 1/29/09


There are many false Jesus's around -antichrist teachings. Please beware. If you are told you can have something for nothing, it is some kind of trick. As one man said today 'freedom is not free'. Please be prepared to die for your freedom in Christ. If you are not prepared to die, but put your hand to the plough and then count the cost too expensive for you, then go back to your city where you will receive what is coming to those who disobey the Commands of God.
---frances008 on 12/22/08


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I doubt it.

Is the Anti-Christ a single individual. A spirit that those that are without Christs have or a spirit that resides in some people?
---Martin_nz on 12/22/08


I attended Saddleback Church for seven years and I never saw evidence of Rick Warren being a false prophet by either Biblical or Webster's definitions. He ministers to a very difficult population in the rich and successful. Remember what Jesus said about a rich mans chances of getting into heaven, Rick Warren deals with those odds every day. What the church lacked in depth, and in my opinion it did, it made up for in ministries and works. We left Saddleback a few years ago and I admit that I would probably not return given a choice, however I am grateful for the experience. I had never before or have ever since seen so many people accept Christ in one year as I witnessed in the seven years that I attended Saddleback Church.
---TIMOTHY on 12/22/08


"Is Rick Warren the False Prophet and President Obama the Anti-Christ?" No.
---joseph on 12/20/08


**I wouldn't have expected a true Christian minister to have been asked to pray.
---SusieB on 12/19/08
**

Why?

Have you made an infallible decision that no true Christian would have a thing to do with Obama?

On what grounds did you reach this conclusion?
---katavasia on 12/20/08


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donna~ loved your message!
---Anne on 12/19/08


Why do people keep picking on Rick Warren? Has no one read his outstanding books? Or heard of the ministry to AIDS victims in Africa? What exactly are we judging him for? Just curious, thanks.
---Mary on 12/19/08


SusieB ... Yes it does seem a strange question.

But so does your comment "I wouldn't have expected a true Christian minister to have been asked to pray"
---alan_of_UK on 12/19/08


A nation divided cannot stand. If we are spending time questioning if our President is the Anti-Christ, we are failing to "give unto Caesar what is due Caesar" as in our hopes and our prayers. I sense fear is the underlying motive of this question. Perfect Love casteth out fear. When we know God is our Protector, our Refuge, we know that no one not even the Anti-Christ will be given power to harm our Spirit. Things of this world gradually fade away while things of the Spiritual world will bring us closer to Christ and being Christ like. Anything less than prayer for our Nation, tears our Nation apart. We have enough "naysayers" it is time for God's love to overcome all obstacles and not for division of state and nation.
---Iris on 12/19/08


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The False Prophet or Anti-Christ won't come upon us unaware. If a Christian keeps a close working relationship to God,which means to study the Word,pray,praise,seek God's will for their life,they will recognize what is of the Devil and what is of God. We won't need to ask anyone,we'll always have a Spirit which will bear witness to Godly things,and prompt us to be aware of whats evil. Walking in the Spirit we avoid even the appearance of evil,in doing so we are fortifing ourselves against being seduced by anything of Satan. So no,I don't think they fit those roles. God will not leave us clueless.
---Darlene_1 on 12/19/08


What a strange question. How did you come up with the combination of Rick Warren and Obama being connected? Rick Warren is just trying to make money on the gospel and Obama is trying to change the world by applying non-Christian thinking to politics. Just once, I'd like to hear Rick Warren tell one of those newscasters that interview him that Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to heaven.
---SusieB on 12/19/08


After going down further in the new questions, I see the connection. I wouldn't have expected a true Christian minister to have been asked to pray.
---SusieB on 12/19/08


The bible commands us to Keep your eyes FIXED upon WHO? Jesus, the author and finisher of your faith.

Keep seeking the things above, NOT the things that are on this earth.

So if we're obeying these two scriptures, then if your eyes are fixed upon Jesus, you will not be lured by the anti-christ, amen? He will not influence your life one bit if your heart and eyes are FIXED upon Jesus.

I think Rick Warren is very liberal and would not attend his church, I need meat of the word, not milk, he is more of a milk man, delivers simplistic word, I need deep, meat word of God.
---donna8365 on 12/19/08


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Revelation points out several things that the Beast and the False Prophet will do. Barack Obama and Rick Warren haven't done any of them so far. We might as well pick anyone else whose policies we disagree with and similarly point baseless accusations abot what they might do in the future.

The False Prophet causes everyone to worship the Beast. The reason Barack Obama will be president will be because he was elected by the majority of the people, NOT because some preacher will pray over him and tell everyone to follow him. Even if he does so, that won't be the primary reason for them following him, which means he won't be the cause.

How many people had even heard of Rick Warren before this week?
---StrongAxe on 12/19/08


Neither has enough spiritual significance.

Where do people get the idea that the USA is the spiritual center of the universe? It isn't.

Hence, it will not likely produce either Antichrist or the False Prophet.
---katavasia on 12/19/08


Oh this is big fun, yes, and I am the devil himself.

Look we can't go around saying this or that out of pure speculation. I see, you didn't say you worded it as a question, fine, but here's the thing if you say it's true or anybody else does and someone with half their brain removed believed it and took the mark because they didn't have enough of a brain to notice your speculation would be the cause of their destruction. (well admittedly that and the fact they had a half a brain) Anywho, let the beast arise and then shout it out from the rooftops and get beheaded in due season.

the point- lets be sure we don't jump the gun.
---Pharisee on 12/18/08


Alan, get real!
---1st_cliff on 12/18/08


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