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Can Obama Save The Economy

Can Obama save the economy? Should we allow him to do whatever he sees fit to fix the economy?

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So far most of Obama's stuff has been less than I had hoped. Our problem was over borrowing and over investing in questionable type loan instruments. But so far, about 2 trillion of new debt has been put on us, with the spending directed directly to rewarding those who have been making these dumb decisions.

What is needed is:
1. Cut wasteful spending (like most of those earmarks).
2. Cut spending on things that reward irresponsibility.
3. Allow responsible people to stimulate the economy by keeping more of the money they earn through their responsible behavior.
4. Invest only in things that can quickly give a good return on investment, things that quickly reduce costs or increase productivity.
---Doug on 4/19/09


Thanks Donna66. :) I was privileged to watch Sgt. Preston on "black 'n' white" tv back in the '50s. Great show!

The lead dog doesn't lead himself. Rather, he is led by the one who rides & guides the sled. So it is with the President of the United States & we the people who follow the leader under God's guiding hand & Divine plan.

Pray effectually & fervently for the snow-faced...CN bloggers here. :D

MUSH, MUSH YOU HUSKIES!!!
---Leon on 3/3/09


Leon-- That's cute! I used to listen to Sargent Preston on the radio.

It's true, too. but if the lead dog is following the wrong trail, they all end up someplace they didn't want to be.
---Donna66 on 3/1/09


Dick Morris of Yale University has woken up. He says that the 'change' that Obama meant was what is happening now and is going in the wrong direction. That what Obama is selling as a 'cure' for the ills of the Bushies is actually the end game, a war against prosperity. He wants to dismantle the middle classes. Take away your hard-earned wealth, and let it go down the drain of the superrich elites. Wake up! When Obama gives us shocking rhetoric he knows its true because it is the plan. A world wide economic crisis. That is the plan. There is no cure. That is the end game. The elite will go into their D.U.M.Bs and leave us to either fight it out with each other or be arrested by the million man army they are creating.
---frances008 on 2/28/09


Thanks to the banks allowing people to buy houses at inflated prices, on loans they cannot afford, with interest rates to compound the difficulties, add to the mix an orchestrated drop in house prices - then the government steps in and takes over the ownership of the banks, and the houses are shut up, families put out on the street. The cheap version of the house is then sold to the highest bidder. The people who can afford it, the Chinese Communists just take a little trip to the good ol' USA (Californeeyah) and buy the houses that used to belong to Americans. Right on, B.O. That is the change we wanted, isn't it? We can do it. We can change. Thanks, B.O. We worship you B.O.
---frances008 on 2/28/09




Nurse--Don't know who you listen to... I never did hear anybody blaming Clinton for 8 years!
---Donna66 on 2/26/09

Donna, go back and read some of these topics from years ago.

And don't forget the trillion $$$ spent on George's war..
---NurseRobert on 2/28/09


This statement from a man I consider an economic guru is very concerning!"I do not know how this is all going to shake out but the whole idea of bank closings and some kind of Martial Law being declared is not beyond the pale of probability." While I believe we are all brothers and sisters under the skin I know that cultural and mores differences are very real.
Illustrative of the point, consider how much stuff is in your closets(yes the closets in your home). Most American closets contained enough unused stuff to run the average foreign household. Do you believe this statement is true or false?
---mima on 2/27/09


Great analogy StrongAxe. Ecc. 3:1... :)
---Leon on 2/26/09


Nurse--Don't know who you listen to... I never did hear anybody blaming Clinton for 8 years! Everybody I know blamed Bush for overspending (and I'm a conservative!). But spending trillions more than Bush did, much of it on nice, but not stimulative, projects is no answer in my opinion.

I've never known anybody who spent their way out of debt.
---Donna66 on 2/26/09


Going into further debt to fix the immediate situation can only lead to future debt much worse than we see now.
---jody on 2/25/09

Well, it was ok for Ronnie and George the first. I didnt hear you complaining about it then.
---NurseRobert on 2/26/09




"Pay attention" indeed Catherine! Proverbs 23:23
---Leon on 2/26/09


catherine:

Yes, that is very probably true. Whenever things are moving in a certain direction, even if you try to change them, they usually have a lot of inertia that will keep them going in the same direction for a while until the changes take effect.

Just look at the seasons. December 21 is the shortest day of the year - it ought to be the middle of winter, but it's only the start, because it takes a while for the weather to catch up. Things keep getting colder for a while, even though the days keep getting longer.
---StrongAxe on 2/26/09


"The view only changes for the lead dog." (Sgt. Preston of the Yukon)

The lead dog has the vision. The other sled dogs only see hinny & snow as it is kicked back into their faces while they run barking behind the leader. :)
---Leon on 2/26/09


This is what I am hearing from God, so pay attention: The economy will get better, but it will take a turn for the worse.
---catherine on 2/25/09


I think that during the first term of his office, it will appear that he has saved us in many areas. It is an illusion, however. Going into further debt to fix the immediate situation can only lead to future debt much worse than we see now.
---jody on 2/25/09


..and it's in the past.
---Donna66 on 2/24/09

right, its in the past. Thats why compassionate conservatives spend the entire 8 years of Bush's presidency blaming Clinton for everything that went wrong..

Sorry, Donna.. doesn't work that way
---NurseRobert on 2/25/09


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Donna66:

Why did Obama spend all that money? To solve problems that were caused BEFORE he got into office. The Bible says "The fathers eat sour grapes, the children's teeth are set on edge". The U.S. government has for a long time been working on the principle of "buy now, pay later" - spending money that they don't have, leaving the payment up to those who came later, to clean up their messes. The bill was going to come due eventually - just as if you go on a spending spree on your own credit cards.
---StrongAxe on 2/24/09


Obama "spent", in a few days, more than we spent on WWII, S. Korea, Vietnam, Desert Storm and Iraq combined. And he insisted
Congress vote on his bill, knowing none of them had had time to read it. Any thing Bush did pales....and it's in the past.
---Donna66 on 2/24/09


jerry6593:

Wait. So you're saying that Obama was secretly running the country's economy during the Bush administration, and is responsible for the economic crisis that happened while Bush is still president? I think you give him too much credit (and, if this were actually true, then it paints Bush as even more of an incompetent fool than he actually was).
---StrongAxe on 2/24/09


"lame George W."---Jerry.

There is truth in some of what you say.

Can you expand on that thought?
---atheist on 2/24/09


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Wayne,

We might have had money to get us through the end of the year, if Bush had not dragged us into the Iraq war, at about 638 billion so far. Ironically, that comes to about $5000 per Iraqi, (those still alive or not amoung the thousands of Christians who have fled for their lives or slaughtered.)

Seems that the investment in Iraqis, made by destroying their country, makes sense to some. But the investments in this country to help ourselves or our own is some sort of socialism.

We all see the world differently, and through lenses of different colors. But I think some must be blind in one eye and can't see out of the other.
---atheist on 2/24/09


WASHINGTON House Democrats unveiled a $410 billion spending bill on Monday to keep the government running through the end of the fiscal year, setting up the second political struggle over federal funds in less than a month with Republicans.

The measure includes thousands of earmarks, the pet projects favored by lawmakers but often criticized by the public in opinion polls. There was no official total of the bill's earmarks, which accounted for at least $3.8 billion.
---wayne on 2/24/09


Axey: Yes, the traitor Obama and his Demoncrat friends created and are fomenting the current financial crisis in order to destroy America. His ONLY significant experience before politics was as an "organizer" for the radical ACORN. Not only did this group win the election for him by massive voter fraud campaigns, but they provided the "muscle" to coerce banks into making all those fraudlent Fannie May and Freddie Mac loans that caused the housing and banking markets to expand and then collapse. The Demoncrat Congress continues to throw gasoline on the fire with their massive "stimulus" pork bills. Meanwhile poor old lame George W. kept warning Congress that F.M. and F.M. were spiraling out of control.
---jerry6593 on 2/24/09


I'm tired of hearing about how "poor" Obama "inherited" the problems he faced. He found them waiting for him "wrapped up in a big red bow" to use his words.

EVERY president INHERITS problems! And these problems are not the worst in our history. A candidate for president KNOWS the responsibility he faces. He is ASKING to tackle whatever problems exist. If he isn't prepared to do the job for which he was elected, maybe he shouldn't have run.

Obama's continual talking of "unprecedented" diaster and catasrophe doesn't increase anyone's confidence. It does help push the Stock Market (a measure of public confidence) ever lower....draining away years of family savings.
---Donna66 on 2/23/09


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Gee Herb! In your neck of the woods does it really take you WVA guys four whole days to red each bill on line? That's gotta be a new Ripley's Believe It or Not.

Checkens? Oh, I get it! You & Jeery are too funny. :D You guys probably know exactly where bears go in the woods, huh?
---Leon on 2/22/09


jerry6593:

First, how have things in this country changed in the last month, vs. the past year? Did Obama create this economic crisis? Congress was already talking about $700+ million bailouts last fall (when Bush was president).

Second, perhaps you misunderstand how impeachment works. It prosecutes "high crimes and misdemeanors", like treason, and violating the constitution. It cannot be used to get rid of someone just for doing a bad job.

I am not aware of any treasonous or unconstitutional activities Obama has done in the past month, however, Bush committed many violations of the Bill of Rights (detention without trial, wiretapping without warrants, etc.) and impeachment never even got past the proposal stages.
---StrongAxe on 2/22/09


StrongAxe, I was making a joke about Obama running on change. There has been no real change, he is a liar. He said that before any bills were passed we would have 4 days to read them on line. The spendulus bill was passed and even those who signed it didn't have time to read it. Besides, we is so poor here in WVA we wouldn't no a depression if it did happen. We pay our doctor bills with checkens. Shucks, we be so far back out in the sticks we have to pipe in sunshine and truck out moonshine.
---Pastor_Herb on 2/22/09


Jeery: You're very funny -- a regular commodian. :D
---Leon on 2/22/09


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Nurse, the Cabinet Secretaries serve the President to implement his policies. Their words and actions are ostensibly an extension of the President.

Hillary Clinton is in China as Secretary of State. Aside from thanking all the donors who contributed campaign cash to her and her husband, she is supposed to be speaking for the President, not throwing out her own ideas.
---ralph7477 on 2/22/09


A friend of my dauthers attended a rally in Scramento this week and she is a liberal at heart, because she is Gay and wants the voters to change things but when she came to explain what went on there, she was shock to see how brain-washed everyone was at the rally. Like in a trance, like a state of altered consciousness. Though she had a purpose, for her own cause, she still said what went on was by nature evil. They were calling Obama the Savior of our country and the world, some were crying and shanting they loved him so much. This kind of behavior is happening everywhere. To all genuine believers, Be aware of the new savior of the world.
---MarkV. on 2/22/09


Jerry ... My country has only about 60m population, so is going toi be economically controlled by what the USA does, thus my interest.

From here, I see no real change in America's response to the crisis since Obama became President.

So I wonder why you say he should be impeached.

But maybe he has done something worthy of that reward.

You may be able to give more information that we are given in our media. Thanks
---alan_of_uk on 2/22/09


Pastor_Herb:

While that last comments seems clever and cute, it also seems somewhat trite as well. Are you telling us that your fortunes were great, and suddenly went from good to abysmal exactly one month ago? For most people, the current economic situation has been brewing for a long time.

It's true that Obama has a raging bull by the horns, but it was raging a LONG time before he got there, and the credit for that belongs to others who went before him. I wonder who those could be...
---StrongAxe on 2/21/09


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Obama and the Democrat attack-America machine is doing everything in their unlimited power to destroy our country. He's screwed up enough. It's time to IMPEACH OBAMA!
---jerry6593 on 2/21/09


Ralph, nowhere in the AP story did it say OBAMA was going to do this. It was an idea thrown out by the Transporation Secretary. You turn around and accuse the president of doing this.

From day one, and I'm talking election day, the "compassionate conservatives" on this site have done nothing but bad mouth, deamean and degrade him.

It's time to get over it.
---NurseRobert on 2/21/09


Nurse, right wing scare tactics? I was highlighting an AP story that made headlines earlier in the day. Obama's contradiction of his transportation secretary hours later only shows that the President really doesn't have a grip on what is going on in his administration.

Secondly, also according to the AP, several states are indeed looking to move forward with testing the GPS mileage taxing system. So if you are going to label anybody as using right wing scare tactics, you should direct your comments to the AP because that's where the reporting came from.
---ralph7477 on 2/21/09


I used to work and make dollars, everybody voted change. Now that is all I have, a little change in my pocket.
---Pastor_Herb on 2/20/09


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C'mon, It's futile comparing Bush and Obama.
Let's talk about NOW.

The stock market plummets because business has zero confidence in Obama's "stimulis". That cuts down almost every retirement fund, 401K, or college fund owned by middle-class America.

Unlike FDR, who addressed hard times, but always exuded hope, Obama speaks only of gloom and doom.
And the shock of a hurredly devised plan costing hundreds of billions of dollars we don't have, has a lot of people nervous.

Responsible homeowners surmise that they are about to be punished to help those who, ignorantly or irresponsibly, bought more house than they could afford.

If the "stimulis" doesn't work quickly, prepare for backlash!
---Donna66 on 2/20/09


Actually, Obama is looking to eliminate the gas tax because it is not generating enough revenue. Instead, he wants to require that every vehicle be equipped with a GPS tracking device which will calculate how much you drive, where you drive, what times you drive and tax you accordingly.---ralph7477 on 2/20/09

Hogwash...

"WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama will not adopt a policy to tax motorists based on how many miles they drive instead of how much gasoline they buy, his chief spokesman said Friday. - AP

Ralph, your rightwing scare tactics don't work.
---NurseRobert on 2/20/09


How quick we forget the slogan he(Pres.Obama) ran on "Change", a transparency in Gov. dealings, yet, when a Spending/stimulus bill(FULL of Spending W/NO stimulus) passe's w/o good deliberation & hurried through by the Democratic leaders in Washington, and then it takes him 4 days to sign it because of the weak news coverage it would have received on a weekend.

DOT just said "Mileage Tax" has been dropped by the Obama Admin, we'll see(?).

Dems. have NO excuse, they control the Senate, The House of Representative & hold the Office of The Presidency.

I'm happy he's chosen to keep the pressure on Afghan.

Oh Yeah, Iran can build nukes NOW.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin_Jr. on 2/20/09


Bush Admin. had nothing to do with gas being $4.00 a gal. so why would i complain and pin that on him?

Libral Senators & Congressmen/women that have refused to let us drill for oil or gather shelf oil off our coast, all the while Viet-Nam & China, Venezuala, ect. are drilling off our oceanic boundries.
(NEW/MORE JOBS)
And not building more refineries, power plants, which has LEFT us at the mercy of other countries policies, which in turn Billiuons is sent to other Nations.

Well, our Note's are about to be called and ALL the nations that have allowed us to borrow from want to be paid in full.

Let's not forget Sen B. Frank/C. Dodd/ect & Fannie Mae/Freddie LOANS that caused whats happening THEN & NOW.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin_Jr. on 2/20/09


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Actually, Obama is looking to eliminate the gas tax because it is not generating enough revenue. Instead, he wants to require that every vehicle be equipped with a GPS tracking device which will calculate how much you drive, where you drive, what times you drive and tax you accordingly.

Isn't big Socialist Government wonderful? They push for fuel efficient cars which translates into less gas being sold and therefore less gas tax revenue. But of course the government can never make due with less tax revenue so they figure out a way to track your every move to keep you paying. Socialism is just so efficient that way.
---ralph7477 on 2/20/09


Duane_Dudley_Martin_Jr:

I don't recall hearing you complaining about the price of gas a few months ago when it was above $4 a gallon under Bush, or when Bush was sending thousands of troops to Iraq for a surge.

I find it hilarious that I have read a lot on these blogs about how horrible it will be if Obama gets elected (because Bush was such a good president), but then as soon as Obama starts doing things like what Bush was doing, the same people who praised Bush and decried Obama start criticizing Obama even more for being like the Bush that they loved.
---StrongAxe on 2/19/09


I heard on the News today that gas should be going up to $4.00 a gal. soon, New Fed. tax on gas to pay for Obama's spending plans....

All that when the price for a barrel of oil has dropped below $35 dollars, Good Job for those of you that wanted change, Because thats ALL your going to have when he's done with you/us.

Oh yeah, wheres ALL the Bush haters, Obama's sending 20,000 troops to Afgan for a surge?

By the way, Most of any Stimulus money you'll be receiving will be spent on gasoline which in turn is going BACK to the Gov., Communism has a new look and it has snuck in on us.

I told you America's usefullness has come to an end
---Duane_Dudley_Martin_Jr. on 2/19/09


"Not Obama or anyone else will be able to save the present economy of America." ???

"If my people, which are called by my name, will humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land." (2 Chron. 7:14)
---Leon on 2/19/09


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Even if he doesn't save the economy, at least he tried. I believe he will save the economy, but I know others have their doubts. I can't judge someone else's belief because I don't keep up with the news. But from what I have kept up with, I really do believe he will be the start of saving the economy.
---Lisa5554 on 2/18/09


Not Obama or anyone else will be able to save the present economy of America. The true unhinging of the American economy was brought about by greed, and accomplished by outsourcing jobs from our shores. The feverish activity taking place now is is nothing more than "Band-Aid economics". A temporary reprieve or confidence bubble will follow each new Band-Aid applied. However at some point(my guess is within two years) the game will be up. By the time of the next presidential elections it will be necessary to declare martial law and put people in physical holding tanks(ridiculously close to concentration camps) is all this is in the future? Let's wait and see if I'm wrong. I certainly hope I'm wrong!!!
---mima on 2/18/09


catherine..you don't leave anyone guessing where you stand. I agree with you.
---wayne on 2/18/09


NO! I will tell you why. Crookedness. Every unbeliever, Satan has dominion over. Satan has done away with everything that's good, in the world, And God's people has allowed it. You are not getting off the hook either. I would let these big corporations go under. Why? Because you are not suppose to reward the bad, but you are suppose to reward the good. Government are not suppose to reward the bad. They are suppose to reward good. Bible said so. God has spoken! Prayers and God's laws has come under attack in this country, here we are in a mess of trouble. I rest my case. You just wait, God is not finished yet. People will not get away with kicking God around. HA!
---catherine on 2/18/09


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"Can Obama save the economy?"
No one man caused the collapse, no one man can fix it.
"Should we allow him to do whatever he sees fit to fix the economy?"
It is out of the public's hands. We, as the general public, elected the man to his position and have no choice but to live with the decisions he makes, if supported by the house and senate.
The fate of the U.S. lies in the Father's hands. What we can all do is pray the Father touches the heart of the president to seek His will and to know that "Where no counsel [is], the people fall: but in the multitude of counsellors [there is] safety."
---joseph on 2/15/09


BruceB, if you want to know who is to blame for the mess the world is in, look no further than the history of the Federal Reserve System. Look at who invented it, why, and how. You will be astonished if and when you know the truth of the FRS history. It may take a bit of intelligent guessing to know the right words to google to get on to the site I am thinking of right now.
---frances008 on 2/15/09


The news is nothing to me anymore, because all you hear is what I am going to do. What we are going to do. God's name is never even mentioned. It's as if He doesn't even exist. Well, He does exist, and a lot of people are finding this out, because they are in hell right now.
---catherine on 2/15/09


Without communism you have the rich and middle classes and the poor. The rich and middle can help the poor. With communism you have the ultra rich and then everyone else is on the bread line. I know I prefer to have the class system, and would prefer it even if I was poor. The solution for communism is to make all work for slave wages and those who cannot work will depend on the government and will only dare think and do what ever pleases the government. Thus, the end of religious freedom is brought about. People will spy on their neighbours. Rules will abound. But that is what everyone wants so that is what you will get.
---frances008 on 2/14/09


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The swing towards liberalism and socialism was deliberately orchestrated by allowing the Christians to align with a monkey on a stick called Bush, who was a member of Skull and Bones and freemason. He led us into a war killing many innocent people (the US military are not innocent but ignorant and thus get what is coming). If mothers want their children to live they must train them in the truth. Bush's war was built on the lies of 911. Now we are heading or into Communism. However notice that Obama is bailing out all the greedy and elite of the world. He is propping up elitism and fascism, whilst bringing on communism for the rest of us. Making people homeless by not offering them even an interest free loan from banks.
---frances008 on 2/14/09


Obama cannot save the economy, what he is enacting through the 850+billion-dollar stimulus will destroy this country. God help us and have mercy on us.
---Cameron on 2/14/09


I love all these interesting non sequiturs! :-) God bless.
---JohnnyB on 2/14/09


Socialism leads to communism which leads to fascism. Always. Look how the communism of China has turned out, and look at how Russia is now turning out. Global fascism, with the elites versus the common man. Which one do you want to be? We need to get back our human rights and freedoms from the government. We need to serve God, the God of the Old and New Testament. He does not allow us to steal from anyone, rich or poor. Communism is the elite stealing from the common man or the revolutionary stealing from the rich. It is stealing. The Catholic system endorses stealing. Redistrubution is the new 'good'. We need to uphold the law of God and the laws of the land, to the shedding of blood if necessary.
---frances008 on 2/13/09


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Yes, Eloy!
Christianty expects us to give freely and joyfully.

The early Christians practiced communal living, not Socialism, the political system.

Socialism is not the compassionate system it claims. In fact, it is a form of slavery. It holds people down, forcing them into mediocrity. It robs people of initiative. It discourages risk and personal responsibility...which are the seeds of great achievement.
Socialist regimes assume that the government, not the people, knows what is best for them... thus it multiplies laws to control more and more aspects of their lives.

Christianity sets people free to follow the path in which they feel God is leading them. It recognizes that nothing is impossible with God.
---Donna66 on 2/13/09


Redistribution of goods is when the Government makes you poor and then offers to help you. You are then enslaved by them, the only jobs are government jobs. Small private enterprise is abolished. If you work hard you are kept alive to look after the elite, but if you become sick you are put into a camp where you die and probably before dying your organs are harvested for the use of the elite. If you don't believe me you obviously have been plugged into the highly paid parrots of television and not sort out the actual truth on youtube from peoples own video cameras and mobile phones. Get ready to die or to fight and possibly survive. Luke 22.36 Hebrews 12.4. We must buy weapons and resist the evil unto the shedding of blood.
---frances008 on 2/13/09


Mike said, "to elder it's the 'could have, should have & might have' happened. there were plenty of opportunities to prevent 911 but there are unknown reasons why it happened. what is sad is blame the other party."
---mike on 2/13/09
I can see Mike that you don't believe your statements either.
If you thought it was really sad to "blame the other person" why did you blame Bush?
---Elder on 2/13/09


I was speaking of socialism in its basic, generic sense of holding property in common. I never mentioned Marx or Communism. God bless, and have a great weekend, all of you!
---JohnnyB on 2/13/09


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JohnnyB:

The difference between people keeping things in common (as the early Church did), and Socialism/Communism is that in the former the sharing is voluntary (you give to others), but in the latter it is not (the government takes from you).

The pair Ananias and Sapphira were slain by the Holy Spirit - NOT because they refused to share their money, but rather because they kept some for themselves and lied saying they were giving it all. (Acts 5:4)
---StrongAxe on 2/13/09


to elder

it's the 'could have, should have & might have' happened. there were plenty of opportunities to prevent 911 but there are unknown reasons why it happened. what is sad is blame the other party.
---mike on 2/13/09


Obama, or anyone else is not going to fix anything. This whole thing is just a contiunation of the plan effected in 1913 with the Federal Reserve.

If we want anything "fixed", we need to replace thedebt-backed, fractional-reserve fiat-currency we call money... with real money, which is gold and silver.

Of course, that ain't gonna happen, and the reason is... we are too greedy -- something for nothing is the modus operandi. It is written.
---BruceB on 2/13/09


.johnny, you still speak falsehood. "Common" is not "communism". Having all things common is not socialism, but family, for socialism is sin. The family of God "share". period. Socialism is not Christianity but instead socialism is NonChristian. If I want to buy a pot to cook in, that is MY pot that I bought to cook food in, BUT if I have a poor Christian brother or sister or mother which has need of a pot, then my pot is given to the Christian family member in need, so that they too no longer have the need: this is not the sin of socialism, but instead it is the fulfillment of the second Commandment from God to love your neighbor as yourself.
---Eloy on 2/13/09


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Acts 4:32 says the Jeruralem Church held everything in common and no one called anything his own. That is socialism. It was a good thing. God bless you.
---JohnnyB on 2/13/09


The early Christians were not socialists or communists. The haves are commanded to share with the have nots: that is not the samething as making everyone a carbon-copy, same clothes of one style and one color uniform, same hair of one style and one length, same houses and transportation of one style and one color, same occupation of one service and one kind: God forbid, for the head is not the foot, nor is the ear the mouth, but each person DIFFERENT and each DIFFERENT person complimenting each other person, just as many DIFFERENT colors make up one rainbow, so too many different kinds of people make up one diverse family of God, some rich and some poor, some loud and some quiet, some colorful and some plain, all beautiful together.
---Eloy on 2/13/09


Johnny B-
History shows that the early Christians didn't continue their communal way of life. The Book of Acts records some of the conflicts they experienced. Magnify their problems to a broader society and it can be seen why Socialism has never delivered what it promises.
---Donna66 on 2/12/09


alan8566_of_UK--- The " buy American" crowd in the US does not undertand the ultimate effects of protectionism.
---Donna66 on 2/12/09


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Is it a sin to be a socialist? The early Christians were socialists. God bless!
---JohnnyB on 2/12/09


Fruit cups for Al after he get's saved, only. Say please.
---John on 2/12/09


"we had a budget surplus & people had jobs." mike
Mike, sorry I should have said your mind is 7 years old. The so called surplus we had came from the now in trouble Social Security funds.
Also Clinton had the perfect chance to capture Bin Ladin but wanted to finish his golf game. Even if Clinton didn't capture him he could have caused enough problems for him that 9-11 wouldn't have occurred.
If you are a dyed in the wool socialist democrat as others have said on here you wouldn't recognizee the facts anyway.
You say people had jobs during Clinton... Tell the West Virginians that lie. Coal cars set on the tracts rusting until Bush got the people back to work. Of course Clinton advocated poor man social welfare for them.
---Elder on 2/12/09


jerry6593:

Just which "institutions that made her great" are you referring to?

The Constitution and personal freedoms of conscience, belief, and assembly unprecented anywhere else in the world? That has been severely damaged the Patriot Act and other post-911 legislation.

Putting personal safety at risk to defend constitutional freedoms? Post-911 America has done exactly the reverse - sacrificing freedoms for safety.

World opinion of America being the strong and righteous bastion against tyrrany against bullies? That also went out the window since 9/11.

America being the leader in the industrialized world? Not any more, with most manufacturing done in the far east and many jobs outsourced to India.
---StrongAxe on 2/12/09


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He seems to be hell bent on destroying America and the institutions that made her great.
---jerry6593 on 2/12/09


Catherine ... You say God loves His people.
Who do you mean by "His people"? ... particularly in this context of the economic crisis, which faces the world.

Many solutions suggested for this in effect amount to protectionism, which will benefit a particular country, but have adverse effects on others.

So saying, for example, "Buy British" may benefit my country, but hurt God's people elsewhere.

Some here seem to equate "God's people" with America, but thta's not right.
---alan8566_of_UK on 2/12/09


The rapture could happen at any minute. If you watch the news and read and study the Bible, you will see many things taking place getting ready for the anti-christ. The pieces are falling into place.
---Pastor_Herb on 2/11/09


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