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Is Stem Cell Research Sinful

Several people that I know might be able to be helped with Stem Cell Therapies. Their medical conditions include: paralysis, Parkinson's Disease, and Muliple Sclerosis. Is Stem Cell research supported by the Bible and O.K.? Or, would it just be another National sin, like abortion turned out to be?

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I agree with that notion frances,

especially reading about Michael Jackson in the news today he claims to have this skin disorder that made him white he should be so lucky most people go all different shades and their never actually white as he is white but a different shades of brown/pink/white, All rubbish if you read the interview Lisa Marie stated ''he made himself what he is he is a genius''.

MRSA is no joke if he didn't mess with his looks he would be healthy today. Most brown skinned people want to be a shade lighter or so fair they look wrong against their natural skin tone, so they buy expensive creams with hydroqephine (not sure on the sp)

Mike just had the stuff supped up and inject the stuff.
---Carla3939 on 2/12/09

Carla, I think it very wise these days to stay clear of hospitals if at all possible. Medication can be tried out on us without our permission. The side effects can be terrible. I have first hand experience of this. Vaccinations are known to be bad for us because we have too many and even if we only had one it is like Russian Roulette. Doctors have published books on these subjects. Just today is a BBC story of laced teething medication killing 111 Nigerian babies. There are many wicked people in the world. Hospitals might want your organs for transplantation and it might be in their interests to see you dead.
---frances008 on 2/11/09

Stem cell research uses fetuses of unborn children, and God would not like it. He has always been available to those who want Him if they repent of their sins and call upon Him for help. Surely He is just as able to help people now as back then. The Lord wants people to call on Him for healing instead of on babies.
---Betty on 2/10/09


You did not upset me at all, I had just about everything go wrong during my short time here on earth and my example was that all I did was rely on God because I was refused medication for depression and took it as a revelation.
I have always been a happy person and still refered that way toay regardless of what I go through sure I'm human and get down but not for longer than a moment nowerdays life's just too short.

I recognise now that I my have was exhausted and did not know it cause I worked 70+ hours a week and went through burn out, I know that now and am causious of overdoing things which I could have done earlier in life.
---Carla5754 on 1/31/09

Carla ... I am sorry that I have upset you ... I don't know how I did that.

I was asking why you apparently say that it is wrong to go to a phyysician, or to use medication, and just asked where Jesus forbade this.
---alan8566_of_UK on 1/30/09

i do not believe stem cell research is another national sin. if these can be extracted from body fat without harmful or dire consequences then why not.
there are a whole lot of fat people living this earth who wouldn't mind volunteering so far it will not cause any long or short term damages to their health.

if stem cell research can improve other people's lives without regrets then, let's do it. it is not sinful.
---boo on 1/30/09

thank you katavasia.
I didn't want to say it can be done without knowing it can be.

Me, too. My family has expressed instructions that if something happens to me, Don't keep me alive for their enjoyment. Let me Go to God, and give what ever can be harvested from my body to those who need it. I believe that is what God has intended on this. Taking and growing embryos just to harvest them is not a good thing. Especially when we have perfect good alternatives.
~God bless you~
---miche3754 on 1/29/09

** I have a question that goes along with this.
Can't we harvest stemcells from adults, and children that are getting ready to die? (in coma,on a repirator, this sort of thing)**

Stem cells can be harvested from perfectly healthy and active individuals from body fat, marrow, and other places, so neither death nor scrambled babies need be involved.

Were I dying and conscious, I would allow stem cells from these places to be harvested from me, though I doubt they would do any good.
---katavasia on 1/29/09

carla, sister, I am not quite sure what you are talking about, but its alright, I still love you.
I only tried to give you uplifting encouragement. I was only stating that God is in control of everything and he can fix anything. I did not try to curse you and I am sure others on this site, can see that.

If you loved me as you say you do, you would see that.
My mother having what she has is genetic. Her grandfather had it. It is not some kind of curse.
Stem cell research if done correctly can help her or if not her, Others.
I have faith that God is in control.
~God bless you~
---miche3754 on 1/29/09


when did I ask for you advice in my *situation* I have no *situation* I am through Christ by the Grace of God free from hurt, hate, malice,or otherwise life is far too precious to display those kind of negative emotions.

I rebuke that Spirit of confusion in Jesus name you try to slay me with Alzhimers. Thank You but no thanks!

I still love you in the Lord sister and hope you do me i just do not receive those types of summaries!

I am fit an well by Gods Mercy and Grace and intend it to remain that way in Jesus name Amen.
---Carla5754 on 1/29/09

I have a question that goes along with this.
Can't we harvest stemcells from adults, and children that are getting ready to die? (in coma,on a repirator, this sort of thing)

~God bless you~
---miche3754 on 1/29/09

"she would never in the world use her situation to curse another person."- carla

Exactly how did I curse you, sister? by telling you that any bad situation you are in, that God doesn't want that for you? That God does bless remarriage? That God does use doctors to help and bless people?

How is that God came into your life?
I know for me, it was Christian telling me and showing me, I didn't have to suffer anymore. That God can take all the pain away.
God wants us to prosper.
You are so defensive that even when we don't agree on somethings, I still show you love, but you rebuke me..why?

And God does AND can use stem cell and other research to help many ailing people.
---miche3754 on 1/29/09


with all due respect to your mother, she would never in the world use her situation to curse another person. No weapons formed against me will prosper, I am a child of a king, fearfully and wonderfully made and wonderous are his works.

Alan who said I need to produce scripture for your every whim!
---Carla3939 on 1/29/09

I'm glad you made the distinction between embryonic and non-embryonic stem cell research.

The former is STILL basically scrambled babies.

In the case of an ectopic (tubal or otherwise misplaced) pregnancy, removing the diseased organ does kill the baby, but it's not morally the same as directly seeking to kill the baby.

No good will come from trying to use scrambled babies to help other people.
---katavasia on 1/28/09

My response might make some people upset. That is O.K. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Anyway, I was referring to Embryonic Stem Cell Research. It might lead to some important medical discoveries.

Here is a story to squelch/silence any objections that readers might have for me:

One of my work buddies had a tough decision to make. His wife had a medical emergency. One of her egg cells got fertilized, but got stuck in the Fallopian Tube. The woman was forced to have a doctor surgically remove the growing embryo. The alternative would probably have been her own death.

Harvesting stem cells from embryos is not any more of an issue than was the decision to remove the woman's stuck embryo.
---SAG on 1/28/09

carla, I know another woman that lived through the same things....My mom. And now, she has early onset Alzheimer's.
You preach against remarriage, but if you will see what I put about my stepdad, their marriage-His 1st, her 2nd, has been blessed.
Do you really believe God means for anyone to go it alone? No, he doesn't. God will take our mess and make it a testimony.
I believe that God gives us the knowledge, but since we are fallible creatures, we make a mess of what was suppose to be a blessing (abortion not included).
It is the way we go about using these things that counts.
God loves us, sent His son to die for us. Doctors are good not God, but Good. In the right one's hands, God can use them to bless.
---miche3754 on 1/28/09

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Carla ... It is distressing just to read those tragic things, and it was more than 100 times worse for you to suffer them.

However, I repeat: "You have not stated where the Bible, Jesus, God, The Holy Spirit, the apostles, the prophets, say that only God can provide physical and mental healing"
---alan8566_of_UK on 1/28/09

Okay, ready

At 3/5 sexually molested,
at 15 supported mom through a violet marriage
Tried to commit suicide at 16,
Left with 2 children and raped at 26
looked down on by the young women/men at church.
married/moved house and lost my teaching Job through racial discrimination at 36. (gray area) couldn't go to tribunal.
A marriage that would blow your tiny minds (especially those who claim I'm hard faced).
threatening heart attack in Nov 06
refused medication by GP said it would make my depression worse.
3 miscarriages, and a baby at 43, despite 2 close friends of my sister she included who all had babies in their 40's with Downs Syndrome/Autism.
---Carla5754 on 1/28/09

Luke 10:30-37 > a Samaritan treated the wounds of a man who had been attacked by robbers. He "bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine" (in Luke 10:34). Jesus seems Ok about the Samaritan giving medical care, with WINE (o: Stem cells might work better than oil and wine, in certain medical situations. Calhoun, it is right that not all stem cells are from a human embryo. Stem cells can be taken from the person who needs them, I understand, in which case they have the same genes as the person using them, and so they are not likely to be rejected by the person's immune system. In any case, a stem cell is so immature, that it can turn into any kind of a specialized cell that is needed, I understand.
---Bill_bila5659 on 1/28/09

Carla ... Yes Luke needed Christ. Paul needed Christ, and remained a tent-maker.

Car makers need Christ, but still make cars.

You have not stated where the Bible, Jesus, God, The Holy Spirit, the apostles, the prophets, say that only God can provide physical and mental healing.

I challenge you to find any such statement.

And why don't you answer: "Ever been to the dentist? applied a plaster or bandage? taken something for an upset tummy or headache? used an antiseptic or disinfectant?"
---alan8566_of_UK on 1/28/09

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**Luke was a physician, yet he needed Christ.**

And after having come to Christ, did he quit his profession?
---katavasia on 1/28/09


Luke was a physician, yet he needed Christ.
---Carla3939 on 1/28/09

"Invetro-fertilization is another example of man's distorted method of creating embryos in a DISH. It's dispicable in God's eyes - just ask God."- donna

I did sister, AND I have a beautiful nephew because of it, too.
WHO are you to say such things? People and their "HOLIER THAN THOU" attitude, claiming they KNOW the mind of God.
This statement is a great example!

It is not the research that is wrong or the people that do the research that is wrong.
It is how they go about it and what they use it for that must be looked at.
Are you going to tell my brother who, when he married his wife couldn't have kids naturally that my nephew isn't from God?
---miche3754 on 1/28/09

**I only know one thing, I was blind but now I see what the Holy Spirit shows me. I don't believe stem cell research is of God, that's all I'm saying.**

Which is an OPINION, and no more.

BTW--are you talking about stem cell research in general, or EMBRYONIC stem cell research? There's a big difference.

Or did you know?
---katavasia on 1/27/09

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Carla ... But where is the word "only"?

Of your quotes, only Ps 103.3 could have any bearing on our discussion

There is nothing there to show that physicians are not to be used. Jesus never said we should not use physicians.

Ever been to the dentist? applied a plaster or bandage? taken something for an upset tummy or headache? used an antiseptic or disinfectant?
---alan8566_of_UK on 1/27/09

donna, your posts would be more likely to be taken seriously if you could spell your key words (such as "holistic" and "despicable") properly.

okay katavasia so I don't know how to spell, shoot me. I don't do hollistic healing medicine so THAT'S why I don't know how to spell it correctly. Geeze, pick on spelling to deter from the real issue here.

And so what if I spelled dispicable incorrectly, I was in a hurry. Actually, something funny, I just remembered in 8th grade I did win a spelling contest..TOO FUNNY, egh? LOL

I only know one thing, I was blind but now I see what the Holy Spirit shows me. I don't believe stem cell research is of God, that's all I'm saying.
---donna8365 on 1/27/09

Alan here are some scriptures please to note the word:ALL

Psa 103:1 [[[A Psalm] of David.]] Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, [bless] his holy name.

Psa 103:2 Bless the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits:

Psa 103:3 Who forgiveth all thine iniquities, who healeth all thy diseases,

Psa 103:6 The LORD executeth righteousness and judgment for all that are oppressed.
---Carla3939 on 1/27/09

Mat 7:7
Ask, and it shall be given you, seek, and ye shall find, knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

Jam 5:16
Confess [your] faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

Job 13:15
Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him: but I will maintain mine own ways before him.

regardless of healing we must still trust God, He saves from eternal death, death is certain but in Christ we are eternal.
---Carla3939 on 1/27/09

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It is the source of the stem cell supply and the harvesting rules of that supply that concern me and not the research. It is very difficult to argue against the benefits of such research but at what cost? Are we killing some in order to help others?
---TIMOTHY on 1/27/09

donna, your posts would be more likely to be taken seriously if you could spell your key words (such as "holistic" and "despicable") properly.

I've also noticed that if a person cannot spell a word properly, it's a good sign this person does not even know what the word means.

And as I said, not ALL stem cells are derived from human embryos.

Hence, stem-cell therapy and stem-cell research are NOT in themselves morally objectionable.

It's only when scrambled babies are used that these techniques are odious.
---katavasia on 1/26/09

Hi, Andy . . . My understanding is stem cells are the very early cells (in an unborn, developing human) which have not become specific, and so stem cells can turn into *any* kind of a cell. These early cells are present as soon as cells are produced after conception. So, the idea is if, for example, a person's spinal cord has been cut and those nerves can't grow back, then they could put in stem cells and get them to grow into spinal nerve cells to replace the cut ones. They are doing research, now, to see if they can do this kind of thing for people with diseases in which certain very specialized cells, like in the brain, have been damaged and the body can not repair and replace these.
---Bill_bila5659 on 1/26/09

Carla ... "Why does everything you challenge have to be literal or translated with different meanings?" How on earht can that be a relvant response to my post? Did you actually read it?

Donna ... Did you not see the word "only" in my post? Show me where the Bible says only God can heal physical and mental ailments.

Neither prophetrs, nor Jesus, nor apostles ever condemned physicians.

Incidently, I do not support stemcell research.
---alan8566_of_UK on 1/26/09

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katavasia, hollistic healing methods would be man's distorted way of healing.

I have seen websites that say, "you can heal yourself" with hollistic healing, and then the person who looks to this dies.

I tried to tell this 33 year old man NOT to look to Hollistic healing to heal his cancer, he didn't listen, believed the hollistic methods would heal him, well he died. That's one example.

Invetro-fertilization is another example of man's distorted method of creating embryos in a DISH. It's dispicable in God's eyes - just ask God.

Another method would be Embroyonic Stem Cells.

Cloning is another dispicable man-made thing.

Look to God, Believe what He says He can do and Trust in Him to heal you.
---donna8365 on 1/26/09


Why does everything you challenge have to be literal or translated with different meanings?

Isa 46:4

And [even] to [your] old age I [am] he, and [even] to hoar hairs will I carry [you]: I have made, and I will bear, even I will carry, and will deliver [you].

Psa 71:3
Be thou my strong habitation, whereunto I may continually resort: thou hast given commandment to save me, for thou [art] my rock and my fortress.
---Carla3939 on 1/26/09

I do not see anywhere in the Bible that stem cell research is of God. The mind is your soul, we are made in the image of God, to tamper with a persons soul is unethical.
---tonnell on 1/26/09

**God cannot bless the distortion of mans way of healing.**

And at what point do we get to the "distortion of mans [sic] way of healing"?
---katavasia on 1/26/09

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can someone explain to me what is meant with stemcell treatment?
---Andy on 1/26/09

It would not be a sin as long as it can be done without endangering the life of the unborn.I'm not sure how they do the tests.It is good to have the stem cells of the newborn frozen so that later on in life if he/she needs them they'll be available.
---shirley on 1/26/09

alan of UK, I'm kind of surprised you are asking this - the man of God that you are.

From the very beginning God says, For I, the Lord am your healer." God doesn't say, believe me for your healing, but in the meantime while you're waiting for me to heal you, do stem cell research.

I could see taking an aspirin, blood pressure medicine, synthroid, or even medication to keep you alive, but looking to something man created to heal people is not what God intended. READ THE ENTIRE BIBLE, START WITH GENESIS....

Jesus healed every person without stem cells. Jesus even raised Lazereth from the dead without any help from man. Man's ways are NOT God's ways. That's why there's so many sick people around these days.
---donna8365 on 1/26/09

Please tell us where the Bible says that physical (and mental) healing comes only directly from the Lord
---alan8566_of_UK on 1/26/09

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I think we have to go back to the bible and see what God says about healing....isn't that what stem cell research is for? Healing those who have these diseaases?

God said,"For I the Lord am your healer."

He sent forth His word and Healed them. So the word of God heals us. Proverbs 4:22 says the WORD will be healing and health to all your body.

So when we turn to man's ways, God cannot bless the distortion of mans way of healing.

Ask, believe and trust in God for your healing. Let God figure out the best method to heal you. P.S. He tells us his method in his word...and it doesn't include stem cell research. Man turns to HIS ways because he doesn't have faith to believe God will heal him.
---donna8365 on 1/26/09

As of January 26, 2009 9:00 am EST there are 87 Medical Journal Article Abstracts on PUBMED dealing with Embryonic Stem Cell Therapy.

Some ChristiaNet blogers need to review the facts before making erroneous statements.
---Phil_the_Elder on 1/26/09

As of now there is not any evidence published anywhere that embrionic stem cells are useful in replacement therapy.
---wayne on 1/26/09

There is stem cell research, and there is EMBRYONIC stem cell research, which cells are made from scrambled babies.

There's a lot of spin that leads people to confuse the two (like brain death and persistent vegetative state: the two are NOT the same).

Stem cells can be taken from many sources, including human fat cells and certain cells in the nose.

Stem cell research (as opposed to embrionic stem cells) and use are no more supported or condemned by the Bible than are blood transfusions, organ transplants, computers, tvs, and revivalsd.
---katavasia on 1/26/09

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