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If the Abortion bill passes, "ALL" US Catholic hospitals will be closed down, rather then commit abortions, putting thousands of hospital workers out of work, adding to the already horrendous economy. How can Obama say he is a Christian?

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How can any Democrat claim to be a Christian?
---jerry6593 on 9/21/10


It is so sad that we as Christians, who are committed (which I hope ALL reading these words are) have it in our hearts to go on and on whether the President is Muslim or not!! Whether he has a birth certificate or not, etc. etc. Hey, however he got into office HE IS IN THERE WHETHER MUSLIM OR CHRISTIAN OR ALIEN from outer space! All the debate should be whether we are doing OUR PART of righting our wrongs, standing up for the voiceless (abortions), using all rightful measures by contacting our representatives to fight these grievances instead of wasting our energies on long-winded discussions. Scripture says that the Lord will fight our battles. But we have to do our part as well - as PROACTIVE Christians, not just REACTIVE blowhards! Geeeeez!
---Lin on 9/20/10


It is so sad that we as Christians, who are committed (which I hope ALL reading these words are) have it in our hearts to go on and on whether the President is Muslim or not!! Whether he has a birth certificate or not, etc. etc. Hey, however he got into office HE IS IN THERE WHETHER MUSLIM OR CHRISTIAN OR ALIEN from outer space! All the debate should be whether we are doing OUR PART of righting our wrongs, standing up for the voiceless (abortions), using all rightful measures by contacting our representatives to fight these grievances instead of wasting our energies on long-winded discussions. Scripture says that the Lord will fight our battles. But we have to do our part as well - as PROACTIVE Christians, not just REACTIVE blowhards! Geeeeez!
---Lin on 9/20/10


larry:

This blog is about Obama funding Abortions. It is NOT about whether or not Obama is a Muslim. It isn't even about spreading the gospel. (There are blogs for those subjects on here, and this isn't one of them).

However, that argument has been raised here, and needed to be answered. What is pathetic is that this blog has been taken off-topic and hijacked by personal attacks in the first place.
---StrongAxe on 9/20/10


IS THIS NOT AN ABORTION TAKING PLACE HERE:

Numbers 5:24 And he shall cause the woman to drink the bitter water that causeth the curse: and the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, [and become] bitter.

Numbers 5:27 And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, [that], if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, [and become] bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people.

Numbers 5:28 And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean, then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed.

---francis on 9/20/10




Trav:
You said: You just never have any proof/witnesses.
I'm not required to provide witnesses to challenge an accusation. YOU, as the accuser are required to provide 2 or 3 witnesses to make one.
---StrongAxe on 9/20/10

No you are not required to provide witnesses. But, it is the only way anything you say will pass beyond opinion.

I provided resource witnesses,will list a few of many here again.
His book is a witness.
Rev wrong is a witness.
His voting record...and lack of is a witness.
His support of perversion politically is documented. And them of him.
His record on abortion...documented. These are his witnesses....that you work so hard to present clean.
---Trav on 9/20/10


Trav, Obama's father was not Muslim but Atheist as his mother.
..
while he is African-American he is not black, Kenyan or Muslim.
The President accepted Christ ..under a pastor who was a virulent bigot.
Pray for him.---larry on 9/20/10

My,my another defender of the indefensible. It's not his fault it's his environment.
He accepted Black Liberation Theology,not Christ. A nasty little religion.
He accepts his Kenyan roots. Most likely was born there as testified by his own family.
You pray for your master. I'll pray to mine "Christ", for relief/mercy next election....that GOD will have mercy on "us" that are being afflicted by his abominable, socialistic, anti-American agenda's.
---Trav on 9/20/10


Also, "Barack" and "Hussein" may be Arabic names, but they are not specifically "Muslim" names.
---StrongAxe on 9/20/10

where do you think the Muslim Religion came from strongax........yes right from the Arabic Nation you need to get your nose in the Bible and study it.

The Abbasids soon became caught within a three-way rivalry of Arabs, Persians and the immigrant Turks. .... However, the crusaders did manage to weaken Muslim territories preventing ... The Almohad Dynasty or "the Unitarians," were a Berber Muslim religious ... Islam came to East Africa mainly through trade routes.
---Lea on 9/20/10


Also, "Barack" and "Hussein" may be Arabic names, but they are not specifically "Muslim" names.
---StrongAxe on 9/20/10

Yes, my brother StrongAxe. Ironically Obama's father condemned Islam and became an atheist in the most Christianized continent on the planet. Africa.


In the light of God's kingdom and spreading of the gospel the argument is pathetic.
---larry on 9/20/10


The good news Glenn is that Bishop Lynch in Florida and others say they won't close hospitals and will call the Feds bluff on closing hundreds nationwide. My money is on the Bishops.

Trav, Obama's father was not Muslim but Atheist as his mother. His father had no presence in his life as Obama was unique having been raised by a white teenager and two white seniors. Sadly, none of them were believers providing the holy direction children need. He's never had a black parent or sibling so while he is African-American he is not black, Kenyan or Muslim.
The President accepted Christ without the guidance of a parent and under a pastor who was a virulent bigot.
Pray for him. Mercy exults over judgement.
---larry on 9/20/10




Trav:

You said: You just never have any proof/witnesses.

I'm not required to provide witnesses to challenge an accusation. YOU, as the accuser are required to provide 2 or 3 witnesses to make one.

But how about this: Obama has spoken about his Christian beliefs. He has never said he was a Muslim. If he WERE a Muslim, claiming to be a Christian would be apostasy and punishable by death. Yet I have never heard any Muslims calling for his death on that account.

Also, "Barack" and "Hussein" may be Arabic names, but they are not specifically "Muslim" names.
---StrongAxe on 9/20/10


Easy Glenn, its Congress. The so-called "Freedom of Choice Act" hasn't moved out of committee in years and was first introduced by two California house members in 1989 and again in 2007 by Barbara Boxer in the Senate and Jerry Nadler in the house.
Hillary co-sponsored the 2007 measure in the Senate with Barbara Boxer and Joe Liberman.
President Obama supports this cruel measure and supported this horror during the presidential campaign, but he was not a co-sponsor.
The President's support of this measure is indefensible but that doesn't give neo-con journalists or Christians a license to lie.
If we lose our integrity we have nothing.
---larry on 9/20/10


Gordon:

And a true Christian stands against divorce too. Did you vote for McCain? Because he has been divorced. (And note that Jesus never specifically addressed abortion but he DID specifically address divorce).

If we cherry pick people's sins and say "That person cannot be a TRUE Christian because he does XYZ", then NONE of us would qualify, because we all sin in some way or other.

If people who live in glass houses are in the habit of throwing stones, all they end up with is covered with splinters.
---StrongAxe on 9/20/10


It's easy for Obama to SAY he's a Christian. Just like anybody can just say they're christian. But, to actually BE one...now, that's another matter altogether. Btw, a TRUE Christian stands against the murder of unborn babies.
---Gordon on 9/20/10


Trav:

Saying "Obama is not a Muslim" is very different from saying "Everything Obama says and does is O.K.".
---StrongAxe on 9/18/10

You just never have any proof/witnesses. Just opinioniated defense of the indefensible.
His own words in his book say he leans Muslim. As we would expect. He has a Muslim name, Muslim Father,foolish mother socialist grandparents, muslim schooling in his youth. He is a product of who he was indoc'd by.
Basically he is a poser. But, then a lot of politicians are. With hidden agenda's until they are elected.
---Trav on 9/20/10


Trav, I happen to be of that 'flava' who is not 'Vanilla', as your code words stated, and I am NOT a supporter of our President's policies. So you are wrong to assume that all ' Flava's' back him up. After all, the mass numbers of 'Vanillas' are the ones that put him in office in the first place! ---Lin on 9/19/10

By the way....Lin I appreciate your stand up/out. The respect you think is due....is for GODly leaders. Not a poser or a title.
I did not include "all" but the two "supposed" christians who by default agree with abortion and perversion.....and call it' leader good! It would be a majority here too though.
Vanilla liberals voters made a mistake....and realize it now. I realized it way ahead.
---Trav on 9/20/10


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Trav, I happen to be of that 'flava' who is not 'Vanilla', as your code words stated, and I am NOT a supporter of our President's policies. So you are wrong to assume that all ' Flava's' back him up. After all, the mass numbers of 'Vanillas' are the ones that put him in office in the first place! So, pray for our leaders as we are told to do, write or call our Senators and Congress our grievances (did you know that the Senate is expected to vote on repeal the 'don't ask don't tell' policy, as well as vote on whether to allow abortions on military bases - voting this week?? We can do our share before the next election and use our Christian energies rather than useless 'B.O. this and 'B.O. that'. And by the way, it is still President Obama!
---Lin on 9/19/10


Trav, I happen to be of that 'flava' who is not 'Vanilla', as your code words stated, and I am NOT a supporter of our President's policies. So you are wrong to assume that all ' Flava's' back him up. After all, the mass numbers of 'Vanillas' are the ones that put him in office in the first place! So, pray for our leaders as we are told to do, write or call our Senators and Congress our grievances (did you know that the Senate is expected to vote on repeal the 'don't ask don't tell' policy, as well as vote on whether to allow abortions on military bases - voting this week?? We can do our share before the next election and use our Christian energies rather than useless 'B.O. this and 'B.O. that'. And by the way, it is still President Obama!
---Lin on 9/19/10


Trav:

Saying "Obama is not a Muslim" is very different from saying "Everything Obama says and does is O.K.".
---StrongAxe on 9/18/10


Obama can't be a Christian because he is a Muslim. I can't wait for obama "christian" believers start writting about this not being true. Jim
-Jim on 9/12/10

We have been, you just haven't been paying attention.
---NurseRobert on 9/17/10

Jim, you have to remember these Christians dending b.o. are fine with killing babies and destroying the normal process of making them by promotion/support of the sodomites. It helps to be of the right flava to be included. Vanilla not welcome. Rev Wrong, will stand with em, he can wave b.o.'s 20 year membership.
---Trav on 9/18/10


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Obama can't be a Christian because he is a Muslim. I can't wait for obama "christian" believers start writting about this not being true. Jim
-Jim on 9/12/10

We have been, you just haven't been paying attention.
---NurseRobert on 9/17/10


Obama a Communist?

I suppose he's so effective a communist, and has managed to control the media and indeed private conversations, that nothing is known of these things which Communists practice:

Coonfiscation of propery & land
Gulags & Labour camps
Midnight knocks and disappeareance
Secret police and torture chambers
Eradication of whole classes od people
Eradication & & murder of opponents
Murder or Reeducation of intellectuals
Emigration prohibited & closed frontiers.
---alan8566_of_uk on 9/17/10


The blog question itself is disingenuous. The government has no control over whether Catholic hospitals stay open or closed. If they choose to close down their entire operations rather than comply with one government edict, that is their choice, NOT the government's.

If someone says "give me a million dollars or I'll shoot this hostage", and I don't give them the money, and they shoot the hostage, THEY are the murderer (because shooting or not shooting is totally their choice), and I am not.
---StrongAxe on 9/16/10


Trav: Did you hear that even the Castro brothers have admitted that socialism doesn't work. Did you ever think we'd have a US president that was further left than the Cuban dictator? God help us!
---jerry6593 on 9/16/10

I haven't heard that. The chameleon has so many names not sure which one is accurate. B.O. is fitting though.
We are paying for our lack of involvement....I'm as guilty as anyone. I can pray our GOD is GOD. He will hear us. He heard David.
What is amazing is people calling themselves Christian backing b.o.100%. Go figure. Scripturally it does.
Psalm 8:2
Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the avenger.
---Trav on 9/16/10


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Trav: I tend to agree with you that B.O. (even his name stinks) is not smart enough to plan the destruction he's causing. I think he's meerly a puppet, and his terrorist friend, William Ayres is the puppeteer.

Did you hear that even the Castro brothers have admitted that socialism doesn't work. Did you ever think we'd have a US president that was further left than the Cuban dictator? God help us!
---jerry6593 on 9/16/10


... Fall upon your knees, seriously in prayer, ....As Barack says so well, together "Yes, We can!"
---Eloy on 2/5/09

I finally agree with Eloy and King David. Pray Psalms 109...fervently.
---Trav on 9/15/10


B.O. is a Muslim Communist monster.
---jerry6593 on 9/12/10

B.O. is messiah to many. Not smart enough to be the anti-Christ. He sure makes a good helper. Chameleon poser has so many names it is hard to know who he is at the times. Blends right in to his environment he is stalking.

Pray that the Lord does not let us become financiers of bo's public financed abortions/perversions by the unaware States of America.
Pray Psalms 109....King David had a handle on persecutors.
---Trav on 9/15/10


How is lil 'ole' Obama gonna fix what he did not create it took centuries of greed and deception to get this world in this state and now Obama is going to ''fix it'' not even Jim can ''FIX IT''


America has been floating on a false economy from time and printed money when there was no Gold to back up that currency so now there are recessions after recessions they do not have enough money to sustain themselves and everyone so their messing with Iran, they plan to live in space lol.

eventually everything will go bust!
---Carla on 9/13/10


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Obama can't be a Christian because he is a Muslim. I can't wait for obama "christian" believers start writting about this not being true.
Jim
---Jim on 9/12/10


Because anyone can say it. Of course we do expect honesty from the president, don't we? Anyways, watching the news, I forget his name, but a man of Obama was dong an interview on Zahria, don't believe that's the proper spelling, but, all these people do, is come on television and talk about how rotten everything is. We already know that. We vote these people into office to give us some answers and then act on them. Why are they drawing a paycheck? Just to give us a run-down everyday on the economy, and how bad it is. WE WANT IT FIX, and no excuses or passing the buck, please. For goodness sakes we can all see how rotten everything is.
---catherine on 9/12/10


B.O. is a Muslim Communist monster.
---jerry6593 on 9/12/10


Eloy, since you came on ChristiaNet you have pushed the issue that you are saved and everyone who disagrees with you is lost. Do you think that you are The Christ? Or are you just trying to convince The Lord that you really are good enough to be saved even though your thoughts are wacked?
I can't remember anyone that has spread discord and falsehoods as much as you have for as long as you have on this site.
While you are examining others so much you should examine yourself.
I would say that you are "a real work of art" but I ain't got nothin' against no art.....
---Elder on 8/16/10


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For abomination is scriptural.

The US Pres funding abortions, & supports sodomy even other.

That's
O b o m i n a t i o n.
---Lawrence on 8/14/10


.elder, there is "No whoa" in what I posted, nor anything religious. Since I am a born-again Christian, I am not able to receive your falsehood. And until you get saved, instead of the truth you will hear what you desire to hear, and believe what you desire to believe, and say whatever you desire to say. wayne posted a very gross misrepresentation and corruption of scripture. I reiterate, the President Barck Obama is Not the AntiChrist, neither was the previous George Bush, nor Clinton, etc. Please Read the Scriptures, for as I have already posted before we the Christed know whom is the AntiChrist. And because the unlearned does not approve of a leader does not make that leader the AntiChrist.
---Eloy on 2/7/09


Eloy, I never said BHO is the anti-Christ.
Maybe this verse will help, 1st Cor 10:21. But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.
21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.
---wayne on 2/7/09


Eloy said, "wayne, Your misrepresentation is egregious. President Barack Obama is Not the AntiChrist misapplied by you from the scriptures."
Whoa, Eloy. By you saying the above you are indicating that there is something religious directed towards Obama by not having Wayne's view.
Now how do you feel? Should we worship Obama because he will be the one who "saves" us from ourselves?
By the way where were you when the same thing was said about Bush? Where are your comments about America being the "Great Satan?"
---Elder on 2/6/09


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.wayne, Your misrepresentation is egregious. President Barack Obama is Not the AntiChrist misapplied by you from the scriptures.
---Eloy on 2/6/09


Right Elder, but one can't even really compare aborted babies and soldier fatalities. Members of today's military have all volunteered of their own free will to serve, knowing full well the risks involved. The fate of aborted children are simply imposed on them by selfish cowards.
---ralph7477 on 2/6/09


Trish you are completely right. People don't need to complain to me because I can't do the changing for them. Bush was called some hateful names and still is. Hate was directed towards him as if it was the right thing to do. Even Joe the Plumber was attacked here. Yet when the democrats didn't pay their taxes not much was said. Not that I want anything said.
I put my life on the line for presidents and many others I didn't respect. Yet I respected the office they held.
Why, I would even like to hear you say Obama is wrong in his view as to killing babies, unborn and born. But, only if you think he is. At the end of the day twice as many babies will have died under his watch as soldiers did under Bush's.
---Elder on 2/6/09


For those of you who say BHO is a Christian.
John 14:30 ,Jesus says "I must go away for the god of this world is coming and he has nothing in me".
now we know that all lairs, murderers, fornicators, adulterers will not see the Kingdom of God.
My question is, why do some continue to defend and rationalize sin? I'm not judging, but we have God's word to go by.
---wayne on 2/6/09


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Trish9863: You are right! Write, calls, email etc your reps. & senators, they will listen, and do not forget they will run for re-election, going to local community boards and talking to local rep. & council members also helps, they will let your U.S. Reps. & Senators know what the community wants.(community organizatiions it Works!) One voice makes a big difference.
---BB on 2/5/09


Elder: I was a chief spouter-offer when it came to Bush. I totally admit that. However, I also exercised the use of pen and phone and contacted all of my representatives when I found it necessary to communicate with them concerning bills and other matters concerning the issues I find important.

My point here is that there are many who will whine and complain about Obama, yet probably never write to the White House, or their legislators to voice their concerns or opinions.

I even teach my students to write to their legislators. Why shouldn't the Christian adults also use that venue to complain as well?
---Trish9863 on 2/5/09


Trish, you said that the 1st amendment to the constitution gives license to diss the government, when the constitution does no such thing. Paul said it well, "Should I use my liberty to sin, or abuse God's goodness and atonement for a cloak to cover sin? should I sin so that God can forgive me? God forbid!" But rather use your liberty and freedom to serve goodness and God. Barack Obama needs the support of the American people to restore the country, he does not need any condescending bigots to be dissing him because they do not approve of him or his work. I am very ashamed of the so-called Christians who bad-mouth President Barack Obama, they need to repent.
---Eloy on 2/5/09


Trish, did the following also apply to Bush when he was in office and even now?
"Unfortunately, there are many here, and elsewhere, who choose to spout off their contempt for our president, and not choose to exercise their freedom of speech in a meaningful way."
---Elder on 2/5/09


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Trish, I see that President Barack Obama is facing more than one humongous challenge ahead. I pray that those who have old sour words, will stop their bitterness and start helping. To every American I tell you, especially to the Christians, Fall upon your knees, seriously in prayer, and lift up Barack Obama to the Lord our God for his divine help in this tribulation. As Barack says so well, together "Yes, We can!"
---Eloy on 2/5/09


Eloy: When did I even suggest that anyone here malign or damage, or practice sedition and slander and libel and defamation of character? That never entered my mind. I teach the Bill of Rights in school, and know full well what is and is not covered by it. It is the right of any citizen to express one's thoughts about the bills and policies that are being passed in Congress to their representatives there. Unfortunately, there are many here, and elsewhere, who choose to spout off their contempt for our president, and not choose to exercise their freedom of speech in a meaningful way.

By the way, the first amendment covers more than freedom of religion. It covers speech, press, assembly and the right to petition the government.
---Trish9863 on 2/4/09


Melinda: I have seen a lot of Christian do things that other Christians would not do, even here on this site. Obama is a Christian, and his policies and practices as president don't necessarily have to "make sense" to other believers. He has nothing to prove to you, or anyone else for that matter, in terms of his relationship with God. That is between God, and him.
---Trish9863 on 2/4/09


If Obama was a "christian", he should not have passed the abortion thing! At conception it is considered alive in God's eyes, and aborting is murder!
---Melinda on 2/4/09


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.trish, You err, for today, sedition and slander and libel and defamation of character are still punishable under the law. The 1st Amendment of the U.S. Constitution sanctioned on December 15, 1791, The precedent stipulates: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." You see the 1st Admendment was written so that All people may freely excercise their religion in public without the state's interferance, and it has zero to do with licensing people to malign nor damage the government or anyone else.
---Eloy on 2/4/09


Wayne: I suppose you did not sqwack when the previous administration pumped trillions of dollars into an unnecessary war.
---Trish9863 on 2/4/09


When people start playing the race card it's a smoke screen to divert attention away from what the liberals are trying to do. Which is to spend our taxes like there's no tomorrow, for every un Godly reason. Mainly to buy votes by giving more handouts. The bailout is now up to 890 billion. Thank God we still have some conservatives in the senate.
---wayne on 2/4/09


Eloy: For once, I agree with you, except for the get out of the country part. I was not happy at all with Bush, and I did diss him pretty hard. That is what the first amendment is about...being able to speak freely against the government. My statement to the dissers is, don't just tell us, write to your congressmen, senators, and the president himself and share your thoughts in that venue. That is using the first amendment at its best.
---Trish9863 on 2/4/09


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Obama can say he is "christian" just like MANY all over world give lip service to Christ claiming they are "christian" ...what difference does it make that he is the President? ...ALL politicians you do remember the Clintons?

Abortion is LEGAL ...remember Obama will be key factor in ushering in one world government and religion ....the beast system of one world government (Rev 17) is about population control ...we were instructed by Christ to WATCH and pray that we be accounted worthy to escape ...stop spending time worrying about LEGAL laws of land and start understanding we are in the end times ...Christ returns to earth to RULE wiping away ALL governemtn and religion to establish Gods Kingdom aka Gods government
---Rhonda on 2/4/09


Please stop dissing, wagging your tongue, against the President. Unhappy one, may I ask you: What are you doing, if anything, to help the President to help your country? Those disrespecting President Barack Obama need to stop this sedition: if you do not like it here, then may I suggest to you to leave the country. I say this to all of the condescending racists, news reporters, and every other disser of the President.
---Eloy on 2/4/09


Frank Cos--

I agree 100%! One is not necessarily "pro" abortion by being "pro" choice.
GOD gives everyone a CHOICE...He knows what is right and pleasing to Him, but He allows every one of us to choose between good and evil. (We can only encourage others to make what we believe to be the right choice).

To me there are many more important considerations in deciding who to vote for.
What is a man's (woman's) world view? How does he regard the economy, international relations, society, business and industry?
The future of our country is at stake when we vote for national leaders.
---Donna66 on 2/3/09


Simply by telling a HUGE LIE, look there's nothing Christian about this guy. Right after winning the election the guy was on the Phone with Arab leaders in 10 nations.

He wants to squelch talk radio and other Christian media with the "fairness doctrine"
and he referred to a young lady who gets pregnant as a teen as somebody who made a mistake...further he thinks they shouldn't be accountable for it, and put it in the context of his own daughter. This IN HIS OWN WORDS!

Not only that he wants to use our tax dollars to pay for abortions in MEXICO! Are you kidding me, and this with partial birth abortion on the menu, anybody who says that's Christian Behavior is NUTS!
---Pharisee on 2/3/09


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Jessica: Reread my post. I never said abortions were good.
---Trish9863 on 1/28/09


Trish9863 I do agree what she said about abortions I think if your dum enough to do all that stuff then you should take care of your responsibly instead of killing another inacent life that was not even brought into the world yet so Trish9863 y do you belive that abortions are good? if you think about it your murdering one of Gods child
---jessica on 1/28/09


If you look at Obama's voting record in IL you will see he also voted for the non-support of babies that survive an abortion. So two times, he voted for the killing of a baby born due to a failed abortion. Not a fetus an actual born infant!
---MM on 1/28/09


Obama is in favor of partial birth abortions too? I'm not sure how he can claim to be Christian, for that is one morbid inhumane procedure. I know I did my research before I voted. Like Proverbs says, 'Charm is deceitful.' McCain would not have missed the Eisenhower ball either that recognizes 'Congressional Medal of Honor' Recipients. (You more-less have to die to receive one of these medals.)...but Obama was the first president not to attend. I hope he gains more respect for the military.

Yes Paul, like you said, we all need to pray for our President to receive more wisdom from God.
---Anne on 1/28/09


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frank, I agree.
We can't force anything.

BUT we can vote.
Congress has the power to stop this. If we don't want it to happen, then we have to vote for a congress that WON'T pass the bill.
We have to stop looking at democrat or republican and look at what the individual stands for.
Before voting do the research. Every candidate post their agenda on the web.
Don't be blind sheep.
Besides, abortion should not be a govenrment issue. It is a personal issue.We can't make a person not get one and we can't make them get one. it is personal
---miche3754 on 1/28/09


Jessica: Christians mature spiritually at different rates depending on several factors. Some faster, some slower. It depends on their walk with the Lord, as in daily disciplines of prayer, meditation, reading scripture, etc. It depends on their sensitivity to the Spirit's leading.

That said, Christians will differ on the issue of abortion in varying degrees. Some will be against it, and march on lines in front of clinics. Some will oppose it in their personal life only. Some will be in favor of any woman having an abortion. All of these stands can come from a born again believer, depending on where they are with the Lord.

I am opposed to abortion, but will not judge a believer who has any of the above views.
---Trish9863 on 1/28/09


A christian doesn't support abortion, but that does not mean he can't support a pro-choice polititian. They favor leaving the choice to the individual, they don't favor forcing abortion. And its dangerous to vote for or against a candidate on one single issue. Jesus didn't say we should FORCE people to belive things.
---frank_cos on 1/28/09


Let us pray that God will intervene and bring wisdom to our new president. Let us pray for our president for wisdom from God Almighty! In Jesus's name Amen!
---paul on 1/28/09


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If God knows every human being, and a human being is such since conception, then if we dare call ourselves christians, how can we not defend the right to life of the unborn and kill them in the abortion mills of america. Obama now even wants the UStaxpayer to pay 460 million dollars to support abortions abroad! When is this going to stop. At one point sooner or later GOD will have to react to all the innocent blood of innocent babies that cry out and up to Him.
---roland on 1/27/09


Trish9863 I do agree what she said about abortions I think if your dum enough to do all that stuff then you should take care of your responsibly instead of killing another inacent life that was not even brought into the world yet so Trish9863 y do you belive that abortions are good? if you think about it your murdering one of Gods child
---jessica on 1/27/09


A christian does not support abortions, neither does a Christian vote for one who supports abortions.
---calhoon on 1/27/09

so then, since McCain supports abortion who did you vote for?
---NurseRobert on 1/27/09


Calhoon, are you God to make such a blanket statement as you did? I know many Christians who have either gotten abortions or support the right to get abortions. As I mentioned in another post, many Christians are not as mature as you think you are.
---Trish9863 on 1/27/09


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Hopefully all other christian hospitals will follow suit and join in and put pressure on Obama!
---Ruben on 1/27/09


The Religious based health care providers will likely sell out to the already established health care systems. The biggest impact will be on the actual Christian working within those systems. There may be some tough choices for all Christians in several professions under the Obama Administration. As far as Obama calling himself a Christian, I can call myself a car and stand in my garage but that does not necessarily make me a car.
---TIMOTHY on 1/27/09


A christian does not support abortions, neither does a Christian vote for one who supports abortions.
---calhoon on 1/27/09


Saying and being is two different aspects of A Christ like person,thus christian is just another word if it is not followed through with Godly actions. Just keep praying for those who say they are, but show no true character of Christ. Then, use your Christian authority to fight against anything that is not God's divine truths for mankind. It is time for the TRUTH TO STAND UP AND SHOUT OUTLOUD WHAT THUS SAITH THE SPIRIT OF GOD TO ALL MEN THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE WORLD. TRUTH WILL SET ALL MEN FREE.
---Brenda on 1/27/09


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I believe there are MANY in the world that would call themselves Christian ... but I prefer to not listen to the "mouth service" and rather look at the works. Obama's "works" are certainly not those of a Christian -- so I suspect he is just doing mouth service by saying he is a Christian (i.e. like he did to gain votes). Only the Lord knows for sure ... but I am just looking at the works and funding abortions is NOT what a Christian would do.
---Debbie on 1/27/09


Many people claim to be Christians. They think that by going to church and making such a claim that makes it so (I can go into a garage, but that doesn't make me a car). Is President Obama a Christian? I don't know...I know I have certainly make my share of huge mistakes during my walk with Christ, but that is because all Christians are works in progress. So Obama might be claiming to be a Christian but not truly being one, or he may be simply making mistakes along the way. Our job is to pray for him and remain humble, as none of us who are Christians have lived perfectly.
---Laurie on 1/27/09


President Obama can say he is a christian the same way as others whose belief system and actions are not in accordance with Scripture. There are those who blog on this site that have unchristian and unbiblical thoughts and beliefs. Does that make them unchristian? I think not. It makes President Obama and all of us works in progress.
---pg1 on 1/27/09


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