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My question would be if anyone knows the right place to start in the bible for getting through the really tough times in my life?

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Trav 3: I believe if you read the Scriptures in allow the Spirit to bring revelation to His Word you will discern what is spiritual and what is physical.
When you made the comment that it was ok for those people to die in the ovens by Hitler you confused me because you always stood up for Israel and in this case you did not know which Israel was burning but you concluded it was ok for them to die, and that is what threw me away. How could it be ok for humans to be burned in the ovens? Just not good witness from someone who says he is a Christian.
---MarkV. on 6/7/10


Trav, I gave you Scripture, and you reject Scripture. ---MarkV. on 6/7/10

You gave not an O.Covenant prophet one, you can't....and accuse me of rejecting scripture. Ha.
You have had plenty of time, but I know your deliema. You would have to unlearn what you've indocdenomcorporated.
Isaiah 62:4
Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken, neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.
(in Context) Isaiah 62 (Whole Chapter)
Jeremiah 3:14
Turn, O backsliding children, saith the LORD, for I am married unto you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion:
---Trav on 6/7/10


Trav, 2: you are caught in the tribes of Israel and who is lost and who is devorced and who is still married and so on. At the end all that will be save will be the elect of God. They consist of Jews and Gentiles. They will become one body with One head and that is Christ Jesus. There is no separate bodies made up of only Jews. In Christ everyone will be the same. No distinction between anyone. You have to get that through your head. No one is special once we come to Christ. The elect are special. They are the one's who are save or will be save before the Day of the Lord.
---MarkV. on 6/7/10


Trav, I gave you Scripture, and you reject Scripture. Scripture is the Word of God, yet your reject it. You reject the Word of God, and misinterpreted the words of the prophets. If you got the words of the prophet correct you would believe the Word of God too, since the prophets speak for God. The end result is the same, Eph. 2:11-16 all people whether Jews or Gentiles have to be save by grace through faith. And when they are, they become one body with Jesus Christ the Cornerstone. There is no other salvation whatsoever. We become the Spiritual Israel of God. We are not the Israel after the flesh 1 Cor 10:18. Those are lost. The Israel of God in Gal. 6:16 is made up of Jewish people and Gentiles who believe the Messiah.
---MarkV. on 6/7/10


I don't believe your definition of Gentile being the lost nations of Israel to be accurate even though the Gentiles contain these lost as shown by my earlier post of prophets.
---micha9344 on 6/5/10

Well...i didn't define it. I pointed. Let all scripture define it. Let all the prophets define it.
People like to kill/change the messenger, after all he is the voice of what we don't want to hear. I was/am no different.

This becomes really apparent when we avoid the prophets/messangers in scripture. When we go against them.....what message does that convey to ourselves about ourselves?
Luke 24:25
Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
Amos 3:7.
---Trav on 6/7/10




And yet Salvation is offered to the Gentiles
Whereas some may believe that the kingdom is only for Israel as a whole, the mystery has been revealed that all may accept this wonderful gift of grace from which God has brought to us through Judah. Paul being the vessel to deliver this mainly.
I don't believe your definition of Gentile being the lost nations of Israel to be accurate even though the Gentiles contain these lost as shown by my earlier post of prophets.
---micha9344 on 6/5/10


The prophets seem to say that the remnant(lion,Nth house) is inside the Gentiles,...
but NT makes no distinction between the remnant and the Gentiles.
---micha9344 on 6/4/10

It is the translators of the New Covenant/Testament that shadow/cloaked the distinction.
All prophets clearly say.
The New Covenant Heb8:8 was my first surprise. It clearly states who the New Covenant was made too. Jesus clearly states Matt 10:6/15:24. All the parables, woman at the well etc. Every book in the NT contextually to the same.
They would/knew not to go against GOD,Jesus or prophets.
Isaiah 43:5
Fear not: for I am with thee: I will bring thy seed from the east, and gather thee from the west,
---Trav on 6/5/10


Hosea 8:8 Israel is swallowed up: now shall they be among the Gentiles as a vessel wherein [is] no pleasure.
Ezekiel 4:13 And the LORD said, Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles, whither I will drive them.
Micah 5:8 And the remnant of Jacob shall be among the Gentiles in the midst of many people as a lion among the beasts of the forest, as a young lion among the flocks of sheep: who, if he go through, both treadeth down, and teareth in pieces, and none can deliver.
The prophets seem to say that the remnant(lion,Nth house) is inside the Gentiles(flock of sheep), but NT makes no distinction between the remnant and the Gentiles.
---micha9344 on 6/4/10


the Spiritual Israel (Galatians 6:16), or the Israel after the flesh (1 Cor. 10:18)?
How many prophets or witnesses do you need to find this out?
---MarkV. on 6/4/10

You seem a Christ believing person, but will twist scripture or someones words to paint you out of a tight corner. Several could testify here. Your human.
Notice you couldn't use actual scripture but, had to put your denom twist on it. Don't you tire of the extra wording? Is changing any scripture authorized by GOD? Is there punishment...teacher?
Revelation 22:18
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
---Trav on 6/4/10


Trav, I'm from Judah, how is that? ......
How many prophets or witnesses do you need to find this out?
---MarkV. on 6/4/10

The dialog has been long between us and you're heating up. You desire very much to be a teacher and help people. Problem is you have no witnesses on some of the things you expound on.
This whole prophet posting was to get you to see/prove out what you are stating with GOD's spokepersons.
I think he approves of those who approve/agree with those he chose...the prophets.
2 Peter 1:5
And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, and to virtue knowledge,
---Trav on 6/4/10




Trav, I'm from Judah, how is that? How many prophets or witnesses do you need to find this out?
---MarkV. on 6/4/10

Ha. I almost believe it. You won't hear the prophets either. They don't agree with your doctrines. False teaching is false teaching. Teacher.
I never said I was anything. I am nothing. But, truth is truth regardless. Isaiah 60:3
And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.
Isaiah 49:6
And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.
---Trav on 6/4/10


Trav, I'm from Judah, how is that? I'm all Israel in the Spirit. How is that? How about I am grafted into the same vine as those Jews who came to Christ? Believing Jews and and believing Gentiles are now one. The two conbined are "Abraham's seed" (Gal 3:27). Who are you? One of the lost sheep? What tribe are you from? the Spiritual Israel (Galatians 6:16), or the Israel after the flesh (1 Cor. 10:18)?
How many prophets or witnesses do you need to find this out?
---MarkV. on 6/4/10


Bobby, Alan, Ken, Johnny and others all have excellent suggestions, and I would add to first seek him in prayer and guidance through and to the scriptures appropriate.

Its nice to know so many brethren are willing to help. The question is serious and is underserving of missives to other believers suggesting they lack understanding.

God bless.
---larry on 6/4/10


If you're treating the Bible as a self-help book, you won't get any answers.
---katavasia on 2/1/09

kat,there is light,peace and wisdom in life in the books already metioned below, about Joseph, Proverbs, Psalms.
To a Lost Sheep the sheherd is looking.....

Psalm 119:130
The entrance of thy words giveth light, it giveth understanding unto the simple.

Ecclesiastes 2:13
Then I saw that wisdom excelleth folly, as far as light excelleth darkness.

Isaiah 42:16
And I will bring the blind by a way that they knew not, I will lead them in paths that they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them.
---Trav on 6/4/10


To the lost sheep of Israel who would not listen,...
This people were Jews who didn't listen. ---MarkV. on 6/3/10

Your sneaking past all the prophets again.
If these sheep hadn't heard/listened...you wouldn't hold a Bible in your hands right now.
Sometimes I'm a little amazed at your lack of reading....but, then I was taught that only judah equaled all Israel too. You highlight that it is ten times as hard to un-learn as it is to learn.
Your denom/doclogic says....GOD lost that he said he would find. Ha. GOD didn't lose them! You lost them.
John 10:1
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
---Trav on 6/4/10


My question would be if anyone knows the right place to start in the bible for getting through the really tough times in my life?

You might start in Rom.and read the first 5 chapters several times until you understand justification by faith + 0, then go to chapters 6-8 and find out what living under grace is about, that would be a good start.
---michael_e on 6/3/10


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"but to Lost Sheep of the house....who will listen, look and see. Matt 10:6, 15:24.

Trav, what you are doing is what the world does, it reads the Bible with no spiritual discernment. To the lost sheep of Israel who would not listen,
Matthew 10:7, "And as you go, preach, saying, "the kingdom of heaven is at hand" they refuse to listen and what were they told to do after preaching the gospel and they didn't listen?
"shake off the dust off from you feet. Assurely, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gommorrah in the day of judgment than for that city"
This people were Jews who didn't listen. They went in the way of hell.
---MarkV. on 6/3/10


Trav, your interpetations are all physical in nature, the Holy Spirit only reveals spiritual truths.
---MarkV. on 6/2/10

You sacrifice the truth on the altar of your doctrine. But, then these post past a certain point were never to you anyway...but to Lost Sheep of the house....who will listen, look and see. Matt 10:6, 15:24.
---Trav on 6/3/10


So, the two prophets mentioned in Revelation are they spiritual or physical beings?

And what about all the other prophets in the world today, are they spiritual or physical beings?
---Steveng on 6/2/10

Did Thomas stick his fingers in Christs wounds? Did Jesus eat and drink when he came back?
Does your GOD do/fulfill what he says he'll do? Mine does. Markv's doesn't allow
Does GOD raise bones and clothe them with flesh?
37:5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones, Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:

6And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live, and ye shall know that I am the LORD
---Trav on 6/3/10


Trav, your interpetations are all physical in nature, the Holy Spirit only reveals spiritual truths. You want to live in the physical it is your choice. Every word of God is for spiritual understanding. The physical we all can see already. All Israel in the physical will not be saved. Only those who put their trust in Jesus Christ by faith. Jesus said, "you have to be born again to enter the kingdom of God" All others will perish in their unbelief. No unbeliever will enter the Kingdom of God. And that means a spiritual salvation, because we are now born of the Spirit.
you can continue your ranting about how all Israel will be save, and turn around and condemned all those who burned in ovens. Now that is one twist believe.
---MarkV. on 6/2/10


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MarkV: "Trav, you speak of prophets but you think in the physical. You need to think spiritual."

So, the two prophets mentioned in Revelation are they spiritual or physical beings?

And what about all the other prophets in the world today, are they spiritual or physical beings?
---Steveng on 6/2/10


Trav, the Bible reveals spiritual matters. Scripture is talking about Spiritual matters which only the believer can discern. (Gal. 3:16).
---MarkV. on 6/2/10

This may be why you are not discerning and avoiding/unaware of the prophets.
By denom misinterpretation above you would negate all "seed who the promises were too". You negate Heb8:8 and hundreds of other passages.
Do believe you are a believer....but, only in that which you like.
Changing scripture,by going against OT prophets is not righteous, it's confusion.

19Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed SHOULD COME TO WHOM the promise was made, and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
---Trav on 6/2/10


Trav, you speak of prophets but you think in the physical. You need to think spiritual.
Israel was "a vine" God brought "out of Egypt (Psa. 80:8. God said "But thou, Israel, art My servent..the seed of Abraham" ---MarkV. on 6/2/10

Wow...who loaned you an O.Covenant book?
Have you found his physical Son Born Of A woman?
Was he spiritual?
Did he come back resurrected, was physically touched, ate and drank for 40 days?
Your denom/doctrine suffers unalignment with scripture, restricts itself to spiritual. My GOD can do anything. Create a physical man from nothing or raise a field of bones and clothe them with flesh.
---Trav on 6/2/10


Trav, the Bible reveals spiritual matters. Scripture is talking about Spiritual matters which only the believer can discern.
In (Psa. 80:8) Israel is called a vine. yet Jesus Christ declared "I am the true vine" (John 15:1). God refered to the nation of Israel as "My son, My firstborn" (Exodus 4:22). yet Paul later called our Messiah "the firstborn over all creation" (Colo. 1:15). The prophet Isaiah clearly called Israel, "the seed of Abraham" Isaiah 41:8). Yet Paul wrote, "Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made." he does not say, "And to seeds" as of many, but as One. "And to your Seed" who is Christ (Gal. 3:16).
---MarkV. on 6/2/10


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Trav 2: About 800 years later, the Lord said through the prophet Hosea, "When Israel was a child, I loved him, and out of Egypt I called My son" (Hosea 11:1). Yet by this time, Israel had failed to live up to the meaning of her own name. She had not lived victoriously, as a "Prince with God." The Lord sadly declared , "They sacrifice to the Baals, and burn incense to carved images" (Hosea 11:2), yet God had a special plan. Another 800 years had passed since the time of Hosea the prophet. Finally Jesus was born and Herod the king wanted to kill Him, so God warned Joseph in advance of the slaughter. "Behold an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream,
---MarkV. on 6/2/10


Trav, you speak of prophets but you think in the physical. You need to think spiritual.
Israel was "a vine" God brought "out of Egypt (Psa. 80:8. God said "But thou, Israel, art My servent..the seed of Abraham" (Isaiah 41:8). God also spoke of "Israel My Elect" (Isaiah 45:4). Again, God said through Isaiah, "behold! My Servent whom I uphold, My Elect One in whom My soul delights! I have put My Spirit upon Him, He will bring forth justice to the Gentiles. He will not cry out, nor raise His voice, nor cause His voice to be heard in the Street. A bruce reed He will not break, and smoking flax He will not quench, He will bring forth justice for truth" (Isaiah 42:1-3). Think
---MarkV. on 6/2/10


Trav, 3: "Arise, take the Child and His mother, flee to Egypt, and stay there until I bring you word"
The next sentence after Matthew 2:14 Under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, Matthew wrote that Joseph, Mary, and Jesus remain in Egypt "Until the death of Herod, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet saying, "Out of Egypt have I called my son" Matthew is quoting Hosea 11:1 which, in its historical context, refering to the nation of Israel being called out of Egypt in the time of Moses. The gospel here declares it "fulfilled" in Jesus Christ. Israel, is a spiritual name, In the New T. that name is applied to one Man, to Jesus Christ, the Prince of God.
---MarkV. on 6/2/10


And again you are including the Israel of the flesh to inherit the kingdom of God together with the Israel of God ---MarkV. on 6/1/10

UCan never understand New Covenant fully without OT prophets.
Eze37:13 ye shall know that I am LORD, when I have opened your graves, ..
14And shall put my spirit in you, ye shall live, ..
21say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen,...
22 I will make them ONE nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel, one king shall be king to them all: they shall be NO MORE TWO NATIONS, neither divided into two kingdoms any more.
26Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them, it shall be an everlasting covenant with them:
---Trav on 6/2/10


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At the thread question... I would personally read Genesis 37-50, the life of Joseph. In it you will see trials and tribulations beyond whatever you may be going through, and yet through them all, you see GRACE (yes, even in the OT) directed at Joseph repeatedly... God was with him all the time!

Peace.
Ken
---Ken on 6/2/10


What you are saying is that Jesus did not break down wall between Jews and (gentiles= divorced nations/ethnos-trav) and made one of the two.
And again you are including the Israel of the flesh to inherit the kingdom of God together with the Israel of God (Gala. 6:16) made up of Jewish people and Gentiles=(Nations/ethnos of Israel -trav) who believe in the Messiah. ---MarkV. on 6/1/10

No, I'm not saying it. Old Covenant prophets say it. New Covenant supports it. Heb8:8/Jer 31:31. The Nth House of Israel was scattered/divorced/lost. Same as goyim amonst the goyim.
(Search keyword: scattered/amongst)
Psalm 130:8
And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.
Ezekiel 37:5
Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones,
---Trav on 6/2/10


Steveng,

You hit on something that is so crucial - meditation on the Word and application. This is not mystical approach to God that does not require thought. In fact, it is quite the opposite. Meditation takes deep thought, prayer, witnessing the Word in action, time, patience, sometimes tears, and the willingness to be humble in His Righteousness and not being right.

Knowledge without application leads to only one thing -- hypocrisy.
---aka.joseph on 6/2/10


Do an online KJV bible search using the keywords "one another," "each other," "love," and "comfort." Don't just read the verses (in context), but meditate on them and then apply what you have read. Applying what you have learned is the key to really living a truly christian lifestyle.
---Steveng on 6/1/10


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Catherine you appear to be saying that the Jesus of the Bible is a different one to the Jesus with whom you relate in prayer. If so your prayer Jesus is not the Author of our salvation. Be careful.
---Warwick on 6/1/10


Forget the Bible! Why not go to the author of the Bible, and your hero, Savior, to help YOU through the rough times of your life. JESUS CHRIST++ PRAY. STAY THERE. Oh, yes, by the way, He is with you and He is in you 24 hours and 7 days a week.....If you stay faithful. Even for that, God gets all the credit..
---catherine on 6/1/10


The book of Proverbs can be very helpful any time but especially during troubling times.
---AG on 6/1/10


Trav, in answer to you from the blog, "Explain Galatians 2:7"
What you are saying is that Jesus did not break down the wall between Jews and Gentiles and made one of the two. That Israel stands alone. And again you are including the Israel of the flesh to inherit the kingdom of God together with the Israel of God (Gala. 6:16) made up of Jewish people and Gentiles who believe in the Messiah. When you apply all Israel you are including those of the flesh together with those of the Spirit. God spoke in Mt. Sinai that, "if the Israelites obeyed His voice "then" they would be a special treasure..a kingdom of priest and a holy nation" When God spoke of Israel, He was speaking about the Elect of Israel.
---MarkV. on 6/1/10


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Trav, no, you did not burn the Jews in the ovens, you said it was ok and gave Scripture. Now you say,
"who may or may not have been jews"
So you didn't know who they were but you thought it was ok. You see Trav when you made that statement you suggested they were not worthy of life like everyone else. And since you did not know from what tribe they were from, how could you judge them? God will judge those who reject Him at Judgment Day. You said,
"If Anti Christ...why do you kiss/kneel at their feet so"
"If" you say. you don't know and I don't either, who they really were. But you made the judgment anyway. Maybe they were of the "elect" how could you know?
---MarkV. on 5/29/10


Trav, ... When you made that statement about how it was ok for those Jews to be burned in the ovens by Hitler, you had the guts to put Scripture down.---MarkV. on 5/28/10

I did not burn jews...who may or may not have been jews. If Christian Jews they would not be called Jews. They would have been called "Christians". If they were "Christians who happened to be Judeans also then what's your problem? They have a judge that will avenge. If Anti Christ...why do you kiss/kneel at their feet so.
Eventually I know who is "Sheep" and "marked in the heart" by GOD. All scripture points to this people and the marks they have. You against scriptural prophets, is like a feather fighting a tornado.
---Trav on 5/28/10


Trav, so? Whats your point? You didn't explain with all that talk why it was ok to burn all the Millions of Jews in the ovens. Here is my point. When you made that statement about how it was ok for those Jews to be burned in the ovens by Hitler, you had the guts to put Scripture down. When you did, you had no way of knowing from what tribe those Jews came from. No clue whatsoever. You don't know if thousands of them were of the elect or not. Because you are not God to know. And then you try to make a case for a part of Israel when you do not even know who those are either. Who will be save and who will not. That is my point. What really matters is that all of them and all Gentiles make the body of Christ. The Church. I believe I am clear.
---MarkV. on 5/28/10


Trav. Now think, how can anyone understand you speaking on behalf of Israel if you think it is ok for those Jews to be burn alive? ---MarkV. on 5/27/10

Well,consider yourself, it's stated. His true sheep, Know his voice (scripture/word). They understand.
Deuteronomy 33:29
Happy art thou, O Israel: who is like unto thee, O people saved by the LORD, shield of thy help, and who is the sword of thy excellency! thine enemies shall be found liars unto thee, and thou shalt tread upon their high places.<>Matthew 10:41
He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward, and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.
---Trav on 5/28/10


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Trav, I went to the bottom of the page, could not find my name on any post. The only one I found is the one in which I answered you. You made sure the one you put on me was make very clear. If you could speak like that when you answer blogs then others and I could answer.
Here is the real problem Trav. You speak about prophets and Israel and who is who, and then you suggest that Hitler was right in the burning of millions of Jews in the ovens. Now think, how can anyone understand you speaking on behalf of Israel if you think it is ok for those Jews to be burn alive? What was the difference between them and those you speak of? Who can understand your logic? Murder some, save some. Did the prophets say it was ok to burn millions.
---MarkV. on 5/27/10


Yet, To answer here you did not speak in tongues, you spoke clearly about me so that everyone could understand. That you did very good and to the point.
---MarkV. on 5/24/10

Call scripture, tongues? ha. Revealing. You understand the last post, because I'm using a format/technique you apply under scrutiny, instead of scripture.
A few post back you had a nice roast about my posts. U r big enough to dish it, but not eat it yourself. A notable difference, here though. The observation is accurate, by your own sarcasm at times, against O.T. prophets. You do not honor or refer to GOD's scriptural witness.
Amos 3:7
Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
---Trav on 5/24/10


Trav, I said I did not want to discuss anything with you because I don't understand your logic. You speak in tongues most of the times and only you can understand what Israel you are talking about. If you ever decide to make your points across, I will be glad to answer your points.

I want you to notice something, "I have not cut you down as a person or as a believer. I do not know your heart or your agenda since I don't know what you are talking about when you speak about devorce, married, Judah, and then adding that it is ok for those Jews to die in the Holocaust.
Yet, To answer here you did not speak in tongues, you spoke clearly about me so that everyone could understand. That you did very good and to the point.
---MarkV. on 5/24/10


markv..
So this spiritual Israel would be the few Jews or remnant saved at Pentecost, and the unbelievers at that time would be physical israel?
---michael_e on 5/21/10

Desiring to be a shepherd of some form, he will not find a scriptural answer. He does not know, or apply/adhere to GOD's prophetic Old Covenant testimonies, so he cannot fulfull in interpretation a scripture witnessed New Covenant interpretation. Willfully going against prophets in the Old Covenant. We could say willfully against GOD.
A thankful, heart he has, but a rebellious attitude towards truth or instruction.
Proverbs 12:1
Whoso loveth instruction loveth knowledge: but he that hateth reproof is brutish.
---Trav on 5/21/10


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Romans 1-5 = Justification by faith
Romans 6-8 = Living under grace
Romans 9-11 = What happened to Israel?
Romans 12-16 = Practical Instruction
---michael_e on 5/21/10


We have all heard that Jesus died for our sins and we stop there never identifying who who really are in the flesh.

Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, wildness, and things like these.

In one way or another, I was guilty of all. It wasn't til I saw that I began to be delivered to the other options: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control,

Gal 5:24 And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

Gal 5:25 If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit.
---aka_joseph on 5/19/10


Start in romans to find where you really are are
---michael_e on 5/18/10


Romans 1:28-32 And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient, Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness, full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity, whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
---micha9344 on 5/18/10


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The story of Tamar in Genesis 38 is kind of fun!
---ger.toshav on 5/18/10


I guess the best place to start is in the beginning.
But, just where is the beginning of his word?
For me that place is Matthew 5.
Because!

When he was set and his disciples came unto him.
He opened his mouth, and taught them.
Saying!

Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness:
For they shall be filled!

So, lift up your cups and hold them out and wait.
And know the things that are yours!

Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die.
---TheSeg on 5/15/10


PSALMS

David went through some very rough and touch times.
He complained to God
He complained about God
He cried out to God
He praised God

David goes through all human emotions when he gets in a rought and touch spot, whether of his own doing, or the doing of his enemies.
But he always looks and hopes in God for his deliverance.
---francis on 5/14/10


In my opinion, proverbs is the best. It may not solve your problems, but it helps you feel better about the tribulations you go through. It shows that God's directions in th bible aren't particularly directed at you (though he may help you by pointing out the verses)...but it reminds you that we are all sinners, and we all go through things. And no matter what God can get you through whatever hard times Satan throws at you. But remember..Not only Satan throws these things at you, but God does at well. And it always teaches you a lesson or makes you stronger. The second best thing to do is pray. Three answers he can possibly give you are: Yes, No, or Wait. So i hope this helped..I'm only 13. so maybe this made no sense to you at all(:
Kam. <3
---Kam on 5/10/10


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Read the words of Jesus. Especially the book of John.
---Betty on 4/27/09


Did you know that the new Testment was written just for God's people? The Old Testament... God tells you what He is going to do with the wicked man and to the wicked man. I prefer the Old Testament. Both Jesus wrote. The God of the Bible. Holy men through the inspiration of the Person of the living God. His Spirit was upon these holy men of God.
---catherine on 3/5/09


Psalms 91 or any of them
---lisa on 3/5/09


The right place to start is always the beginning. John says Jesus is the word and was from the beginning. Go to the beginning, Jesus, tell him what is troubling you and ask him for help. He will send it and it will be in just the right form for you. There are many forms of comfort that come out from the spirit of the living God (and many forms that do not). Go to Jesus and ask for the comforter and believe and he will come. And if that confuser comes into your mind and tries to convince you that Jesus has better things to do, consider this from Ezekial "I will care for my sheep and will deliver them from all the places to which they were scattered on a cloudy and gloomy day"...

David
---David on 2/19/09


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I would suggest Job.
This man lost everything and STILL he trusted in God.
Through Job still trusting God, God gave him back everything he lost 10 fold(x 10) what he had before.
---miche3754 on 2/19/09


Lisa, if a person is SAVED by GRACE through FAITH IN THE FINISHED WORK OF CHRIST ON THE CROSS, they are under the New Covenant.

They do not need to go to a Priest, because CHRIST is the HIGH PRIEST, and they themselves are a Priest, 1 Peter 2:9-12.

We as Christians go to the Father THROUGH CHRIST, AND CHRIST ALONE, and not through any other person, John 14:6.
---Rob on 2/19/09


If you (anyone) is having difficult times and are looking for a biblical story to remind you that God stands with you regardless, I would read the WHOLE story about Joseph. (Gen 37 to the end of Genesis) It reads better than a John Grishem book, and few have been through anything close to what Joseph went through. Likewise, few have been as blessed!

As for going to priests, pastors, a scriptural mentor of sorts, this doesn't hurt. Sometimes getting an outside unbiased perpsective will edify you. Yet, don't run to ANYONE before running to God. Pray more than you ever have, alone. Meditate on what you have read, be quiet long enough to hear God's soft voice in your heart. Above all, be patient.

Peace.
Ken
---Ken_Rank on 2/19/09


I would suggest talking to a priest. I found when I was struggling that priests were a wonderful help for me. They could even suggest Bible verses or stories you can read! If they don't suggest anything right away, just ask :)
---Lisa5554 on 2/18/09


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you cant understand the New Testament, without knowing the Old Testament.

Get a concordance and a Bible dictionary, and study, study, study.

2Tim. 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

for the tough times try psalms, proverbs, Eccl.

Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times [the things] that are not [yet] done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
---joe on 2/6/09


Larry: As with any book, the best place to start the Bible is at the beginning. Immerse yourself into the Book (Bible) & allow the Word of God to get into (fill) you, & He will get you thru all the "valleys & shadows of death" (really tough times) in your life. Trust God to take you on the most exciting & rewarding adventure of your life!

Join a healthy, well-balanced (Bible believing & practicing) Church. Ask them to pray for you & wife. As much as you love her, you can't change or make your wife do right. Forgive & give her over to the Lord in your prayers. If she genuinely repents you can start new. Otherwise, trust God & get on with your life.

God bless & keep you!
---Leon on 2/5/09


how about the lives of the apostles?as a comparison too your tough times?all were executed for faith.tough,have you ever been scorged?how about nailed too a cross?i have had 2 wives cheat on me,have a disability,a cardiomyopathy, that wont allow me to do much more than walk,and that depending on the weather is tough.but alas knowing jesus is the best answer too your question.he is your rock.and mine.
---tom2 on 2/4/09


Makes me think of a woman who was married to a guy I know, who is in our men's group. He's doing things right, I'd say, being faithful to his daughter, being responsible about child support. I'd say the main thing, in a case like this, is keep yourself straight. Don't let it play you, don't let her or anything play your emotions. IF what she says is the truth . . . now at least you know the truth. But ones can make things up, when they know they are really messing up big-time. Now it is possible she could be saying that to try to keep people from expecting anything from her. But, either way, find out how God has you loving her, and discovering whatever good you can do . . . not just focusing on getting back together.
---Bill_bila5659 on 2/4/09


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The rough times in which i am talking about is going through my seperation with my wife as i have tried and tried to work things out with her but she is in no way wanting to get back with me but still i find myself trying and in the end i find myself still in pain cause she had used me to think we were fine and getting back together, but once i was out of money she didnt want to see me or talk to me. She had once told me she never really loved me she just said she did cause i had alot of money and her plan was to stay with me only until my money was gone. so i am hurt by that, but yet i still forgave her. i am also questioning trying again for since the seperation she has been very sexually immoral in her living as well as drugs and alchohol.
---Larry7478 on 2/4/09


Hi, Larry > you can read the Sermon on the Mount. This covers how God wants us to love ALL people, no matter what the circumstances, and not to worry, "But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.'" (Matthew 6:33) And I benefit from "be content with such things as you have," in Hebrews 13:5. When I have a rough time, it helps to look at myself, to see how I need correction and healing so I don't take things so hard. The Bible in general is needed to feed us so we get strong in a well-rounded way so we are ready to handle any problem creatively, and not just to struggle > consider Joeseph > Genesis 37-50, how love had him handle even being betrayed by his own brothers.
---Bill_bila5659 on 2/3/09


Gospel of John find out who Jesus is, and then go right into Acts and see who Jesus was to the apostles, then I would come back and read Matthew and proceed with the rest of the New Testament.

God is what you need, and Jesus Christ was nothing short of that.
---Pharisee on 2/3/09


The whole bible is the best part.

The bible is about the relationship between man (the israelites and christians) and God. Whatever problems you have can be found somewhere in the bible for there is nothing new under the sun. As you read from beginning to end (not only using your mind using worldly knowledge, but understaning with the heart, reading through the eyes of a child), your relationship with God grows. As your relationship grows, so does God's help in whatever particular problem you might have.

Of course, having a personal relationship with Christian friends help, too. They just may have your answer.

I pray you find what you seek.
---Steveng on 2/2/09


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K ... Not self help at all!

And if we have already come to Jesus, is it really wrong to seek and find help in the Bible?
---alan8566_of_UK on 2/1/09


If you're treating the Bible as a self-help book, you won't get any answers.

The purpose of the Bible is to introduce you to Jesus.
---katavasia on 2/1/09


The best part of the Bible are the parts that people take the needed time to study, 2 Timothy 2:14-19.

I say this because of what is written in Romans 1:18-32, and 2 Peter Chapter 2.
---Rob on 2/1/09


larry,knowing the word is paramount in life,but even more important is applying the word to your life.remember the apostles and early christians,? many died as martyrs for their faith in jesus.I also have had at times a rough road,but as of this writing no one has tried too kill me for my faith.
---tom2 on 2/1/09


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My best place to start out right from reading the Book of Matthew and finish reading out to the end of the Book of Revelations.
---Lynn_J on 1/31/09


I would like to add these encouraging passages: John, chapters 14-17, the First Epistle of John, and 1 Corinthians 13.
---JohnnyB on 1/31/09


I like Romans 8.
---Bobby3 on 1/31/09


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