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How Do Jews Atone For Sins

We know the blood of Jesus atoned for our sins. The Jewish people atoned for their sins through animal sacrifices. Since this practice stopped, are all Jewish people living with unforgiven sin? Have they improvised with something else? Do they die in their sins?

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Ken- (3-15-09) My Bible doesn't have those names in it. If that name was so sacred, why did God tell them to write it at all? The Name of God is magnified. Your Bible might have those names in it because you bought a special one. The one I have is the one approved by God because it is favored the world over. Also, the ones who wrote it deceived no one, for they were very pious, and careful to do as God directed. They were not mass-marketed as today, they were handled with care, and prayed over. See if you can find out what happened to the ones who published the A.B. Traina version of the Holy Name Bible. There is a website you may find interesting. Think about the sacred name movement and put dot com behind it. Verrrrrry Interrrresting.
---bettyw on 3/30/09

Jeff #3

Now Jesus has come...the promised Redeemer of Isaiah 53. The one even Job said..I know that my redeemer liveth....

1 Chronicles 16:2
And when David had made an end of offering the burnt offerings and the peace offerings, he blessed the people in the name of the LORD.

Psalm 118:26
Blessed be he that cometh in the name of the LORD: we have blessed you out of the house of the LORD.

Matthew 23:39
For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Mark 11:9
And they that went before, and they that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord:
---kathr4453 on 3/30/09

Jeff, #2

I believe if you look closely at Hebrews 11 all those mentioned placed their faith in Jesus Christ...even though they did not know His name. It starts with Abel, who placed his faith in the coming redeemer. Even Moses willing to suffer the reproach of Jesus Christ ( yes it says Christ)..

and you see at the end of Heb 11, they all believed in the promise died without the promise...BC.......the Promise of Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit promised. They looked forward to the Cross, we look back. The lived by FAITH. Faith has to be in someone!
---kathr4453 on 3/30/09

Good Morning Jeff. First, I am a Born Again Jew, a remnant(of Israel) according to the Election of GRACE.

Jews saved TODAY are a remnant of Israel saved and baptized into the Church, through their faith in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. Today is the day of Salvation for both Jew and Gentile INDIVIDUALLY. Our faith is in His Atonement for our sin. That's TODAY!

So is God finished with the Nation Israel (not individuals saved today belonging to the Church...but the Promised Kingdom restored to Israel for 1000 years Acts 1:6 & 7) fulfulling Zechariah 12-14?

Which one of these is your hope in?
---kathr4453 on 3/28/09

1. kathr4453-"Does God hear the prayers of sinners APART from Jesus Christ? I say NO!"

Well G-d says that one who turns his ear from listening to the Law, that his prayer is an abomination(prov.28:9). Obviously, one who is obedient to the Law, his prayer is heard.

"Judaism is a religion...but not according to Righteousness. and that righteousness is in Christ only"

So according to you, all the "OT Saints" would not be "saved" since their faith wasn't in "jesus name" even though Heb.11 shows that their faith was approved through their actions. I suggest a careful, slow reading of the chapter to see it, since it's to many to list. (cont'd)
---Jeff on 3/27/09

2. kathr4453-"IF Jews still practiced Animal sacrifice , their sins would still not be forgiven under the OT System."

All jews know that sacrifice didn't forgive one of sin, it was the broken & contrite heart that brought the sin offering, who had his sins forgiven. Also, for those who couldn't afford an animal, G-d allowed a tenth ephah of fine flour for a sin offering.(Lev.5:11-13) no animal sacrifice yet he is still forgiven his sin.
Also, did you know that one of the criteria of antichrist is to put a stop to the daily sacrifices in the temple?(Dan.9:27 & Dan.11:31) I wouldn't hold on to this idea that the "OT system" is set aside or done away with if I were you.(Heb.10:28)
---Jeff on 3/27/09

3. kathr4453- I think that you're trying to equate animal sacrifice with the atonement of Messiah as if one has replaced the other. Messiah is the "lamb slain since the foundation of the world" so why the sacrificial system? Moses was taken into the heavenly realm on Mt. Sinai & told to make a copy of everything he saw there (the temple, altars, ark, etc.) Since human sacrifice is against G-d's Law, then animals "substitute" for that which is in heaven. The heavenly temple is cleansed through Messiah's blood just as the earthly temple is cleansed through animal blood(Heb.9:19-28). If the copy is unnecessary then why a rebuilt temple & cont'd sacrifices in the messianic kingdom?(Ezekiel 40:2-48:35)
---Jeff on 3/27/09

4. kathr4453- "When Romans 11 is fulfilled as Mima so clearly understands THEN God will deal with Israel as a Nation then. TODAY they are lost, just like anyone else."

I ask then who are you grafted into if they are lost? G-d says the gentile is grafted into Israel, also in Rom. 11:28-32 they're enemies of the gospel for your sake, BUT they're still beloved by G-d for the sake of the patriarchs since G-d's gift & calling to them is irrevocable & just as you were once disobedient to G-d, through their disobedience you are shown mercy, & through that mercy shown you, they're also shown mercy. G-d hasn't cast them off. (Rom.11:1, 1 Sam.12:22, Jer.31:37 & 33:14-26, I could list others but space is limited)
---Jeff on 3/27/09

"Elias was God's Prophet", Balaam too.
God is everyone's Father. Is there any other Creator that you are aware of?

Christ came to gather the lost sheep, to show Man the path to God. To demonstrate that the Word of God could dwell in the flesh and therefore he encouraged men to be nourished by it as the way to go!

If you would condemn Judaism, that is your call but it is not a good thing
You do not understand Matthew 23:1_3, you only see the insult and rebuke to some and your justification.
You do not understand Matthew 23:23, but then again, neither most Judaist or Christians. A Bernie Cohen fellow got offended by it, not realizing the encouragement to his own, only the insult.
---Nana on 3/27/09

Nana, 1.
Elias was God's Prophet
2. No one comes to the Father except by Jesus Christ. So yes, our Father does answer our prayers. Are you saying God is everyone's Father? That everyone says..Abba Father? illigitimate children spoken of in scripture?

So you don't beleieve Jesus is necessary?

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

arbiter, arbitrator, conciliator, go-between, intercessor, intermediary, interposer, middleman, peacemaker
---kathr4453 on 3/26/09

James 5:17: "Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months."
Matthew 7:11: "If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?"
---Nana on 3/26/09

I would like to note that Jeff left out Jesus Christ completely. Does God hear the prayers of sinners APART from Jesus Christ? I say NO! With that, I would say many people no matter what religion (and Judaism is a religion...but not according to Righteousness. and that righteousness is in Christ only) ask God for forgiveness and still don't believe in Jesus Christ.. Are THEY forgiven....I say NO!

IF Jews still practiced Animal sacrifice , their sins would still not be forgiven under the OT System.Hebrews 10.there is not more animal sacrifice for sin.

When Romans 11 is fulfilled as Mima so clearly understands THEN God will deal with Israel as a Nation then. TODAY they are lost, just like anyone else.
---kathr4453 on 3/25/09

Christ has always been, just as the Word of God spoke all that is into existence. Salvation then and now is by the same means: faith and a Life of Faith. 1 Cor 10:3: "And did all eat the same spiritual meat, And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ."
Jews atone for their sins though mercy just as us. We should keep always present that Jesus is the Word of God which was made flesh. A man that turns from error and lives by the Word of God, will have life.
---Nana on 3/25/09

Jesus said I am the way, the truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father but by Him...Jews, Muslims, Catholics,Protestant, Hindu...NO ONE comes but by the blood of Jesus. When Jesus came, He became sin. He became that sacrificial lamb slaughtered for sins. OT saints of the promise... well, that's another blog. Hebrews 11 says they never got their promise. The promise is eternal life. When He returns, they will stand just as we will, and face the White Throne Judgement. NT Jews must still repent.
---lisa on 3/24/09

Romans 2:28-29 For he is =not= a =Jew=, which is one =outwardly=, neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But =he is a Jew=, which is one inwardly, and circumcision is that of the heart, =in the spirit=, and not in the letter, whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Acts 4:10-12 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of (Israel,) that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. (Neither is there salvation in any other:) for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
---exzucuh on 3/17/09

John 8:23-24 And he said unto them=The Jews=, Ye are from beneath, I am from above: ye are of this world, I am not of this world. I said therefore unto you, that ye shall =die in your sins=: for if ye believe not that =I am he=, ye shall =die in your sins=.

Acts 3:22-23 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me, =him shall ye hear in all things= whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be =destroyed= from among the people.

There is no salvation but in the Son of God Jesus Christ
Those that reject him reject God and the wrath of God comes on the children of disobedience.
---exzucuh on 3/17/09

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Thank you! That answers my question. And raises another.

I appreciate that "to obey is better than sacrifice" 1 Sam 15:22 and that insincere sacrifice is useless, Isa 1, Prov 15:8. However, clearly, G-d established sacrifice as a means of attonement: Leviticus 17:11: "For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul."

In the Jewish way of thinking, how can attonement take place with out sacrifice? If sacrifice were dispensible, why was it not done away with long before the destruction of the temple?
---bruce5656 on 3/17/09

Bruce- As a jew I can give you a jewish perspective:
1.are all Jewish people living with unforgiven sin? If the don't ask G-d sincerely for forgiveness then yes but if they repent then they are forgiven.
2.Have they improvised with something else? No, it has always been teshuva(repentance), tefilla (prayer) and tzedaka(charity). remember G-d says he desires compassion(or mercy) not sacrifice.
3.Do they die in their sins? All men die in their sins, what matters is the judgement and we are not told a lot about that, G-d will judge all men fairly and justly.
---Jeff on 3/17/09

kathr4453 and Gordon,

Read the original posting again. There are three questions asked.

I understood question one "are all Jewish people living with unforgiven sin" and two "Have they improvised with something else?" to be asked from the Jewish perspective.

In other words, since they no longer sacrifice animals, what do the Jewish people do to replace the sacrifice of live animals? their religion. Do they, in their mind, have to live with unforgiven sin because they cannot sacrifice animals?

Not that what they are doing might actualy bring about salvation (see line one of the post) but what is their current ritual in this regard?
---bruce5656 on 3/16/09

Betty, all ancient manuscripts, including rocks found in others countries written in ancient Hebrew containing the 10 commands have the tetragram YHWH on it. If that is not God's name, you seriously have to throw out your bible because everything YOUR bible is based on includes that as his name. There is nothing consistent in telling me YHWH is not God's name when YHWH appears in the manuscripts your bible (doesn't matter what version) is based on.

---Ken_Rank on 3/15/09

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kathr- No, I am not a Hindu, are you? I am a blood-bought Christian - I belong to Jesus Christ. It seems you have Benny Hinn on your mind more than I do. I never think of him unless someone mentions him. From what I read about Benny Hinn and his wife, they are deceivers and blasphemers. Jesus Christ was not a Hindu, either. He is the one that told us to do unto others as we would have them do unto us. If we send curses, we will be cursed in return. If we are wicked to someone, God will see to it that we will come in contact with people who will be wicked to us. If we give evil instead of good, we will receive evil. If we take vengence, we will receive vengence. That's what it's all about, girl. Be still and know that He (God) is God.
---BettyW on 3/13/09

A slow clear reading of Romans 11:15 reveals the answer to this question.
Scripture Romans 11:15,"For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?"
---mima on 3/13/09

Bruce5656, The answer to this Blog's Question is so simple. And, so much so, that it seems that there are some who are stumbling over it. The answer is in the oft quoted Verse of John 14:6. YAHUSHUA (JESUS) says "I AM the Way, the Truth, and the Life. NO MAN cometh unto the Father but by Me." No one comes to GOD, no one goes to Heaven, no one is redeemed from Hell but, by the Son of GOD YAHUSHUA (JESUS). This includes JEWS as well as Gentiles. The Old Covenant was temporary sin atonement through the blood of animals. The New and Everlasting Covenant of sin Atonement is through the one-time shed Blood of YAHUSHUA (JESUS CHRIST).
---Gordon on 3/13/09

Jesus said, "No one comes to the father except by me" There is no other way. You can sacrafice everything born from now to eternity and for eternity and it will not make even one sin become forgiven.
---Marty on 3/12/09

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***Also because whatever you do to others will be done to you. Betty***

Now Betty, is that called Karma? Are you a hindu or something.

NO where does scripture say what you do to others will be done to you. Or is that a WOF Thing....GIVE Benny Hinn $2 and God will give you $2000.

Betty, the verse says,
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. However many times we do wonderful things for others that kick up their heels and spit on us! SOOO, My Dear, we LOVE regardless of what we get in return even if we get nothing here in return.

---kathr4453 on 3/12/09

kathr- As long as the High Priest, etc. or Scribes & Pharisees didn't repent, He did not forgive them. He forgave those who had a hand in His crucifixion, though they did not want to do it (Converts). We are supposed to forgive others because we must not kill, etc. Also because whatever you do to others will be done to you. He had told the Scribes & Pharisees that if they did not believe that He was the Christ, they would die in their sins.
---Betty on 3/12/09

Bruce5656, The answer's in Hebrews 10.

The truth is , Jew or Gentile, anyone who has rejected Jesus Christ and HIS PERFECT sacrifice on the Cross are living with unforgiven sin.

In the OT, the blood of bulls/goats never forgave sin either. It was a reminder year after year of their sin. The sacrifice was a temporary forshaddowing of when the Promised redeemer would come. OT saints placed their faith and looked forward to the we look back.

They lived on credit....we live on the money is in the bank if you know what I mean.

Abel offered a sacrifice....looking forward to the promise of Genesis 3:15. as stated in Hebrews 11.

Christianity is NOT a religion, but a Person, Jesus Christ!
---kathr4453 on 3/12/09

I wonder if parts one and two of the question has ever been answered?
---bruce5656 on 3/12/09

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It is good to remember, that God hates sin much more than He loves the sinner! In otherwords, God hates sin more than He loves the sinner. Holy God HATES SIN, more than He loves the sinner. the sinner.
---catherine on 3/11/09

***God hates sinners that do not repent. The Scribes and Pharisees persecuted Jesus Christ in conversation. They accused Him of blasphemy. He told them they were of their father the devil and the works of their father they did do. Do you really think He loved them? Only those that repented. He also told them they would seek Him and would die in their sins if they did not believe that He was the Christ. Betty***

Betty, why then did Jesus say...FORGIVE them for they know not what they do?

Why are WE told to love those who hate US, and God you say asks of us what He doesn't do himself?

Yes, we know many will die in their sin. But I believe we are to tell the world For God so LOVED sinners, He gave His only Begotten son....
---kathr4453 on 3/11/09

ken- God hates sinners that do not repent. The Scribes and Pharisees persecuted Jesus Christ in conversation. They accused Him of blasphemy. He told them they were of their father the devil and the works of their father they did do. Do you really think He loved them? Only those that repented. He also told them they would seek Him and would die in their sins if they did not believe that He was the Christ.

If you are diligent in seeking more information about who you worship, you will finally understand that demons and witchcraft first used that name (Tetragrammaton). Have a nice day.
---Betty on 3/10/09

kathr- There is only One Name by which we all must be saved - the Name Jesus Christ.

God hates sinners that don't repent. He hated Esau. He told the Scribes & Pharisees that they were of their father the Devil. Does He love Satan, too?
---Betty on 3/10/09

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YAHUSHUA hated the way the Pharisees distorted the Scriptures and the Laws of His Father YAHUVEH. The religiously smug Pharisees were not entering the Kingdom of Heaven, and they were keeping others from entering also. Having made themselves RIPE for Damnation.
---Gordon on 3/10/09

Betty, if you go outside of scripture to determine what is written in scripture, you seek man's interpretation.

Yahushua rebuked the Pharisees because they added to God's Law. Remember Peter not wanting to go into the Gentiles home? Jews not eating with Gentiles? The wall of perdition that kept the gentiles away from the Temple? Their claim about not being able to pick and eat on Sabbath is another example of man made additions to God's law. This is what the Pharisees did that Yahushua rebuked. Not only that, they used those additions to "lord over" the people. They turned what King David called a "delight" in a burden and something no man could do without fear of reprisal.

---Ken_Rank on 3/10/09

Some of you who oppose the use of the Son of GOD's Hebrew Name of "YAHUSHUA", are missing the point. There is nothing "magical" about using the Name of "YAHUSHUA". But, it's Anointed. And, it's not about just "calling on the Name of 'YAHUSHUA'", as if it were like chanting an occultic magic word. We are talking about the True Name of the Son of GOD, given to Joseph, to be formally announced as the Son's Name on the Eighth Day of His Birth. And, although the Name "JESUS" is NOW allowed by GOD, and He has anointed that Grecian Name for NOW, it will not be anointed when the Anti-Christ comes using the name of "Jesus Christ" himself. The Name "YAHUSHUA" will only do at that time.
---Gordon on 3/10/09

Try finding out why Jesus hated the Pharisees. (Non-biblical sources as well.)
---Betty on 3/9/09

Betty, Jesus did NOT hate the Pharisees. God is LOVE, and HATE is the same as MURDER.

God can HATE lies, sin , etc, but NEVER the sinner.
---kathr4453 on 3/9/09

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Again Betty, I do not use the pronunciation "Yahweh." However, I do not fault others for it. "Yahweh" pre-exists witches dear Betty, so if they have made use of his name in a vain way, I am sure they will be accountable for it.

Get yourself a concordance, look up the all caps LORD, and see what word the Hebrew Manuscripts use that is "translated" as LORD.

As for Yahushua "hating" the Pharisees, you have a weird way of reading scripture. He hated the particular Pharisees who changed or added to God's Laws in order to "lord over" the people and make being obediant a burden.

Have a nice day.
---Ken_Rank on 3/9/09

Betty, I know there's some controversy about the spelling, but whether it's used in witchcraft I've never heard of that. Can you show any support for your comment.

The translation has been passed down and around, from Greek to Latin, and certainly came into being with different translations from the original Hebrew.

But the fact still remains, God told Moses to tell Israel I AM sent you. I AM is not translated to be what Ken and Gordon insist.

Jesus refers to Himself in the Gospels as I AM....

I AM the way, truth and life, I AM the resurrection. Etc, Etc, But never once be resurrected one must know how to pronounce any of His names...IMMANUEL Wonderful Councellor, Prince of Peace, King of Kings, ...
---kathr4453 on 3/9/09

Ken- Sometimes I think you and some other people around here read with your eyes closed. Yahweh is a name witches use - they get it from the Kabbala. Many times I wrote of other proofs that the name is not God's. Libraries & internet are good places to find out more. Seek and you shall find. Some things happened after the Babylonian exile. All that came back to repopulate were not Jews. They blended their religion with the Hebrew religon. Phariseeism was born. Jesus spoke of Jews that were not Jews. (Rev. 3:19) He said they were of the synagogue of Satan. Try finding out why Jesus hated the Pharisees. (Non-biblical sources as well.)
---Betty on 3/9/09

Jesus said something about people having eyes to see, yet they see not.
---Betty on 3/8/09

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God gave Moses the name Yahweh in which great signs and wonders were manifest. Moses wrote Elohim said: "And the Egyptians shall know that I am the Yahweh AKA: (LORD),when I stretch forth mine hand upon Egypt, and bring out the children of Israel from among them (Ex 7:5)."

This contest between Moses/Aaron vs Pharaoh /magicians,represent two mysteries, the Mystery of Righteousness and the Mystery of Iniquity. God choose Moses/Aaron to cast down sorcery and magic by the higher power of Yahweh and establish Israel as a people of God and the only TRUE GOD. It was not the literal vocalization of the name "Yahweh" that invoked power, but faith in the the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob's ...the great I AM!!!
---kathr4453 on 3/7/09

Like it or not, Catholicism is a form of Christianity. But the two are light years apart in beliefs. Kabbala and orthodox Judaism is the same. Both fall under the category of Judaism, but are so far apart they are not the same religion, just as protestantism and Catholicism are not the same religion.

Still on the Yahweh kick huh? I would LOVE to know where you got the idea that that name (which I think is improperly pronounced) is of the devil?

Care to share your source?
---Ken_Rank on 3/5/09

What is all this about magic? Frankly, those who use the Jewish kabbala are trying to use magic, envoking the name Yahweh. Whoever is for Yahweh, let him follow Yahweh, but I will trust in the name of the Son of God, Jesus Christ. He has all power and authority, and He can and does work miracles.
---Betty on 3/5/09

Betty, I have >>NEVER<< told anyone that calling on Jesus is wrong. I think he is a little bigger than written symbols or spoken language!

His name represents his authority, so when two are three are gathered in his name...does that mean they have to paint the wall with the words J.E.S.U.S.? Do they need to bring their Jesus tee shirts, carry a banner with his name written on it? Silliness! When you gather in his name you gather in his authority.

As for the Hebrew. While it is true that the translators have continued in the tradition of replacing God's name with LORD, and did a hack job on the name of the Son, again, God is a little bigger than petty words.
---Ken_Rank on 3/5/09

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"Yahushua" is what he heard, there is blessing in knowing and using it. But it isn't like he doesn't hear you if you call Jesus!!! The word God comes from Tuetonic origin and was first applied to a pagan god. But does that mean we need to say Elohim? While it may be closer to truth, "God" will not turn his back on what you say based on the culture and language you were born into. He will turn away when your HEART is not for him.

Thing is, we should WANT to walk as closely to Messiah as his disciples. For >>ME<<, knowing they didn't use the name Jesus (couldn't, "J" is only 500 years old) and instead called him Yahushua, then I do as well. You don't have to, and I consider you no less a sister for it.
---Ken_Rank on 3/5/09

Kathr4458, Of course we're still at it. The Hebrew Names of GOD are True. I will not continue with religious man-made traditions. I'm just passing on what GOD is telling His Church, through one of His modern, holy Prophets. Shalom!
---Gordon on 3/5/09

Kathr4453, There's only One Name given under Heaven by which mankind can be saved. It's the Name of the Only Begotten Son of GOD. A Name makes all the difference! The Name "JESUS" is Anointed NOW. All GOD is telling us, is that the Real Name of the Messiah is a Hebrew Name, as He was born of the Hebrew race. In the lineage of king David! He was given a Name that means "YAHWEH saves". There is going to come a time when the Son of GOD will be "reverting back" to His Real Name, when the Anti-Christ comes, for the AC will be using the Son of GOD's Greek name of "Jesus". It's simple to understand. You just have to trust that GOD is indeed speaking through His Prophets today that He has placed among the Church.
---Gordon on 3/5/09

Gordon and Ken- You are trying to lead a whole generation to hell by telling people not to call on Jesus Christ when and after the Anti-Christ comes. Lord have mercy. Flee the wrath to come and call on Jesus.
---Betty on 2/27/09

Good for you Betty, I can't believe Gordon and Ken are still at it!

GOD is not Hebrew, nor does HE only speak Hebrew. He is the one who divided the nation and confounded language.

AND on the Day of Pentecost, the Apostles Speaking in Tongues were speaking in every language so all would hear and understand.

Why on earth would that change and make any difference.

Calling out a Name isn't going to save anyone. There is no MAGIC in names...and it's witchcraft to believe there is.
---kathr4453 on 3/4/09

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Jews have the same opportunity that Christians do. They can choose to confess and repent (turn away from) their sins and have them covered in the blood of Jesus. The Bible says that salvation is for the Jew FIRST, then the Gentile. Jews can accept Jesus (Yeshua) as their Jewish Messiah, and be born-again. The ONLY way that they will know these things, though, is to have someone tell them - just as with those lost in the world. We Christians MUST evangelise to the Jews as well, and provoke them to jealously with Jesus. Use the Law of Moses (10 Commandments) first, then the Gospel (cross), then have signs and wonders following. This is how to win them to Christ.
---Leslie on 3/4/09

While your in here trying to get magic words to get awe-inspiring occurances of God, people out in your cities and neighborhoods need your aid. They need to know what you know, and help to build a relationship with Him. They need to know that they are in a world at war for their souls, and this planet is Satan's playground. I'm sure Satan loves that a lot of you just stay in your homes and pray and talk to God all day. If you were talking to God, he would tell you to go outside and talk to somebody. Shame on those who spend their time saying prayers and striving for wonders on their own accord. By serving others and just loving them for who they are, you will hear God and see him work his wonders. Don't make "Magic" your only intent.
---Bruce on 3/4/09

Betty, That "sounds" convincing. But, I don't know all of the details to make a true and fair judgment at this point. Regardless, I do know from my own experience, that the LORD hears me, He answersd my prayers in line with His Will and I fellowship and walk with HIM daily, as I use the Hebrew Names of the Triune GOD-Head. I love the things that are True. And, I know that the Son of GOD was given a Hebrew Name at Birth. I suspect that something else went awry with your situation in relation to the Hebrew names that you were using. But, again, I don't know. Time certainly will tell. But, as for me and my house, I will march on with the Hebrew Names of Almighty GOD that I know are True. Shalom!
---Gordon on 3/4/09

All sins are atoned by Jesus' blood rather one is aware of it or not.
God's Mercy only comes to mankind through Jesus' blood.
The Jewish people are saved by the Mercy of God as Christians are saved.

How God's Mercy is dispense to us is a Mystery.
He said He wouldn't forget His first born.
I trust only in His Words to carry out what He said He will do.
I don't need to know how He will carry out His promises to believe He will carry them out.
---Natalie2 on 3/3/09

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Gordon- Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit let me know the day I repented of those Hebrew names. Prior to that I had been praying for Him to move some mountains for me, and I never heard from Him. The mountains got bigger and taller. Since I repented He has been working on my problems and leading me and guiding me. I now know how the mountains got there in the first place.
---Betty on 3/3/09

I believe that a faith that does not believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross can atone that is the very bedrock of Jesus Crist he was sent by his father God to die for sins of all mankind on calvarys cross God be with you always
---lawrence on 3/2/09

Betty, Who told you GOD was angry with you for using the Names of "YAHWEH" and "YAHSHUA"? Who told you that GOD hated these Hebrew Names?
---Gordon on 3/2/09

Gordon, Bear with me a moment,the Talmud is the Jewish sacred book and in it it says that Jesus was able to do miracles (walking on water etc) because He knew the exact pronunciation of God's sacred name,had it written on parchment and sewn in His leg!
Pagans are serious about "magic" words,abracadabra,open sesame etc.. Don't get caught up in this futile endeavour.
"Words" do not work magic!
---1st_cliff on 2/28/09

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Betty, the Aramaic version of the Hebrew Yahushua (who you call Jesus) is Yeshua.

Leading people to hell by sharing Messiah's real name? Come on Betty, you are smarter than this. Yahushua was a Jew, spoke Hebrew, kept the law. There is no J or J sound in Hebrew, that rules "Jesus" out as being his name.

Where does "Jesus" come from? Translators took Yahushua into Greek as a very poor transliteration Iesous. It was then take into Latin as Iesus, which is how it is spelled in the 1611 KJV. When the letter J came into use 500 years ago, Iesus was changed to Jesus.

---Ken_Rank on 2/28/09

There is only one atonement for the sin of mankind and that was death of the Lord Jesus Christ on the cross of calvary. Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father but by me." (John 14:6). This applies to Jews and Gentiles alike. There are many verses in the Bible that speaks of how Jesus died for the world, became sin for us eventhough He knew no sin. There is no other way, just Jesus.
---Leisa on 2/27/09

Ken- Neither do I judge you. There is One who will judge, and His name is Jesus. Praise be to God. Elsewhere on this blog maybe you read about Eesho, the Aramaic name for Jesus (whom some refer to as Yahshua). God bless.
---Betty on 2/27/09

Gordon and Ken- You are trying to lead a whole generation to hell by telling people not to call on Jesus Christ when and after the Anti-Christ comes. Lord have mercy. Flee the wrath to come and call on Jesus.
---Betty on 2/27/09

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donna- Jesus Christ was the perfect sacrifice. Given this information, what will you do with it Donna? His perfection was from the beginning. Jesus said He proceeded forth and came from God, and that He and His Father are One. Are you saying that God the Father had to be made perfect, too? The Lord's Name is Jesus Christ, find out what else it was. Word up. God saved the world through His Son, Jesus Christ. If He was not perfect, then you are not saved.
---Betty on 2/27/09

Alan8566 of U.K., Most people on this planet Earth do not recognize the Hebrew Name of the Son of GOD "YAHUSHUA". Most, though, ARE familiar with the Name "JESUS CHRIST" as it applies to the Saviour. When the Anti-Christ appears and claims that he is "Jesus Christ" come back again, or whatever, everyone will know what he's implying. Further, I simply do not believe that GOD will allow Satan, via the Anti-Christ, to USE His Most Sacred Proper Name given for Salvation. And, as much as Satan HATES the LORD, I doubt that the Devil would even want to go that far with His Holy Name. The Greek Version of "Jesus Christ" will suffice enough for the Dragon to deceive the people who have refused the True Christ.
---Gordon on 2/27/09

"Ditto" on Ken Rank's last statements! Again, my point in bringing up the name of "YAHUSHUA", other than the fact that it is simply the Saviour's actual Name, is that the Name "JESUS" is indeed Anointed now for Salvation, Helps, etc. NOW, but, when the Anti-Christ arises upon the World scene, do not, from that point on use the Name "JESUS" when you want to call on GOD. You will need to call on the Name of "YAHUSHUA" at that time. For, the Anti-Christ, with the help of the demonic spirits, will appear when the name of "Jesus Christ" is called upon. We must study to show ourselves approved.
---Gordon on 2/27/09

Ken Rank ,Whether it was written in Hebrew or Aramaic won't really change anything!
Origen was a little strange in that he castrated himself so as not to be accused of sexual impropriety with the women he taught.
He believed in two separate creations,one literal one spiritual and universal salvation,everyone including satan would be saved!
He was not your normal fundamentalist Christian,but neither am I!
Being of the majority opinion is not my strong suit!
---1st_cliff on 2/27/09

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Gordon .... "It just will no longer be when the Anti-Christ comes, for he will claim to be, and will call himself "Jesus Christ". So, there will need to be a clear and sharp DISTINCTION of Names, for people to call on. At that time, the Son of GOD will ONLY respond to the Name of "YAHUSHUA".

Surely the antiChrist will know this. and so will call Himself ""YAHUSHUA". ???
---alan8566_of_UK on 2/26/09

When I read certain responses to blog questions, I find myself wondering how many, if zapped back in time, would have chanted, "Crucify him, crucify him!"
---Deb on 2/26/09

Betty--I agree with you, BUT

Those are not MY words. That passage is from Hebrews 7:28."his Son has been made perfect forever".

I checked every version available to me and the tenses are the same in every translation.

If you don't like the way it is worded complain to the author of the book of Hebrews
---Donna66 on 2/26/09

When Paul spoke to his people in his defense, did he speak in Aramaic or Hebrew?

Act 22:2 (And when they heard that he spake in the Hebrew tongue to them, they kept the more silence: and he saith,)

While I don't deny Aramaic was widely spoken, nor do I deny Koine Greek was was spoken, you said it yourself, pertaining to religious things Hebrew was spoken. Why then believe the NT was all Greek, when Jews are who wrote it?

Origen wrote:
The first is written according to Matthew, the same that was once a publican, but afterwards an apostle of Jesus Christ, who having published it for the Jewish converts, wrote it in the Hebrew.

Since he is closer to that time frame than any scholar today, why dismiss the statement?
---Ken_Rank on 2/26/09

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Just some food for thought...mind you, up front, I do not judge you if you call Messiah Jesus.

The letter J is 500 years old. "Jesus" then, quite simply, could not have been the name he heard. Likewise, he was a Jew, there is no J sound in Hebrew or Aramaic.

Yahushua, Yahshua, Yeshua, Yehowshua...these are closer in line to what he would have heard. YAH, the short form of YHWH, and "shua" which means roughly, "becomes our salvation." (YHWH has become our salvation)

So why is it the name above all names? Because it shows God himself, YHWH, performing the greatest act since creation, becoming our salvation!

Praise be to YHWH through Yahushua our redeemer!
---Ken_Rank on 2/26/09

Gordon- Today is the Day of Salvation, isn't it? The Bible was given by the word of God. Where did you find in the Bible that His Name will be changed? Precious love God had for His Son. Why would He change His Name? Breathe the Name Jesus when you are in trouble and see what happens. We have an unction to go into all the world and preach the gospel of Jesus Christ, not Yahshua.
---Betty on 2/26/09

Ken Rank, Thanks for your response. I notice that you use the Saviour's Hebrew Name :-). I'm being accused of trying to be "argumentive". I am simply relaying what GOD Himself is now warning through a Prophet of His. To help prepare those of the Bride of YAHUSHUA, and His many other Saints, for the coming Tribulation and the rising of the Anti-Christ. People can argue whether the Prophet is a true Prophet of GOD (I've tested the "Spirit" of the Ministry, and found it LEADS to the LORD, not away from Him, as a false prophet would!). I simply have no problem believing that our Saviour's Name is Hebrew (YAHUSHUA). And, that He would not have a GREEK name, being of Holy Blood in Hebrew Lineage. It makes sense to ME. Blessings!
---Gordon on 2/26/09

Danelle, The info that I have been presenting to this Blog IS helping others and myself to prepare for the coming tribulation. The Sacred Names GOD absolutely matter, that's why we Saints need to be informed! If you have read any of my posts closely, you will have noticed that I emphasized that the Name of JESUS CHRIST, as it NOW applies to the Son of GOD, is indeed Anointed. It just will no longer be when the Anti-Christ comes, for he will claim to be, and will call himself "Jesus Christ". So, there will need to be a clear and sharp DISTINCTION of Names, for people to call on. At that time, the Son of GOD will ONLY respond to the Name of "YAHUSHUA". This is GOD's warning through a modern Prophet of His. Ephesians 4:11-12.
---Gordon on 2/26/09

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Donna- Jesus Christ was already perfect.
---Betty on 2/25/09

Ken Rank, You're right that the language of "Rome" was Latin but the language of Palestine (that the common people spoke) at that time was Aramaic a derivative of Syriac that Jesus spoke and Matthew's gospel was written in. Area wide ,the predominant language was Koine' (common) Greek (of which the other 26 books were written) The aristocracy spoke "Attic) Greek.
While the Rabbis read and spoke Hebrew in the synagogues it was not widely used.
---1st_cliff on 2/25/09

Anyone who does not believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and savior, is dead in sin. There is not respecter of persons.
---jody on 2/25/09

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