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BAAL Comes To Rome

Did you know that during the formative years of Traditional Christianity, the worship of BAAL was brought to Rome? Watch this video and let me know your thoughts.



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Is this guy talkin' about Zenobia won Kenobia?

note: I can't understand how this thread turned into Sunday vs Saturday Sabath argument. If you're gonna worry about the Sabath, just go to the Jews who keep the oracles of God - they know what day ia "legally" the Sabath.
---BruceB on 3/2/09


The seventh day sabbath is a day of rest.

Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
---Richard_Rives on 2/18/09


Alan: "Steven, you can worship God on Saturday, but Christians should worship Him everyday. Do you restrict your prayer, fasting, Bible time and fellowship to just Saturday? I hope not as we should do these things frequently if we are Christians. "

Did you read my post or are you just agreeing with me?
---Steveng on 2/18/09


All days do belong to God, however there is one that he "hallowed" - the seventh day. He calls it "My Holy day" and commanded that we are to rest on that day.

The works of his hands are verity and judgment, all his commandments are sure. They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in truth and uprightness. He sent redemption unto his people: he hath commanded his covenant for ever: holy and reverend is his name. The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever. ...Psalm 111:7-10
---Richard_Rives on 2/18/09


Bill....

We are told by the Most High not to worship as the heathen, but you prove what I have said many times on this forum, christians do not care about what the Almighty Father has said. Look at some of the believers here, they know the truth and are telling you the truth about the Sabbath as well as other topics, Im grateful for those believers who know the truth. Most christians put themselves on the throne not caring about any law of God. They want God to conform to thier will instead of you conforming to God's will. So worship on your pagan days, and tell God why you thought you knew better.
---wayne on 2/18/09




All days belong to God. No day belongs to Satan or any of his gods. So, if Satan has used December 25 for his sun god's birthday, we can take this day and use it to celebrate the birth of Jesus, instead. And if Sunday was for Satan's sun god, we can use this day for God, instead. But Jesus in Heaven does not have any days ruling Him > in Christ, we are not ruled by the relative position of the sun and the earth, and when and where the sun is shining on the earth. But humans tend to be ruled by when the sun is shining. There are people who stop work because the SUN is not shining after Friday evening > they are ruled by when the SUN shines (o: Jesus is not > "as He is, so are we in this world." (in 1 John 4:17)
---Bill_bila5659 on 2/18/09


While we can and should worship our Creator every day, the fourth commandment specifies rest on the seventh day sabbath.

The sabbath is a memorial of the Creation. God created everything in six days, rested on the seventh day sabbath, and "hallowed it."

Jesus was the Creator. All things were created "by Him and for Him." Jesus instituted sabbath rest on the seventh day.

Long before the time of Christ, Sunday, the first day of the week, was recognized as a day on which the sun gods were honored.
---Richard_Rives on 2/17/09


Steven, you can worship God on Saturday, but Christians should worship Him everyday. Do you restrict your prayer, fasting, Bible time and fellowship to just Saturday? I hope not as we should do these things frequently if we are Christians.
---Alan on 2/17/09


Christians can worship on any day of the week. We are told to worship on a daily basis for the Christian life is a 24/7 lifestyle not a once a week pep talk on Sundays.

God's Sabbath continues to be Saturday, the seventh day of the week. God blessed the seventh day long before the Jews became a nation. He blessed it for man's sake. Today's Christians need the Sabbath morethan anytime in history. They have fill up every minute of every day with computers, ipods, TVs, school, church, work, entertainment, shopping, playing, family, friends, that they forgot to include walking with God in there somewhere. That's the importance of the Sabbath - to spend time with God.
---Steveng on 2/17/09


And they forsook the LORD, and served Baal and Ashtaroth. And the anger of the LORD was hot against Israel, and he delivered them into the hands of spoilers that spoiled them, and he sold them into the hands of their enemies round about, so that they could not any longer stand before their enemies. Whithersoever they went out, the hand of the LORD was against them for evil, as the LORD had said, and as the LORD had sworn unto them: and they were greatly distressed. ...Judges 2:13-15
---Richard_Rives on 2/17/09




Christians openly worship Jesus Christ, not Baal.
---Betty on 2/17/09


Christians even today worship Baal or Mithiras on Sunday. But christains dont care about breaking the Most Highs laws by doing this, or by holding pagan festivals such as christmas, easter. Protestants are nothing more then schismatic sects of the catholic church, even though they dont believe it
---wayne on 2/17/09


The title Baal is in reference "Lord" or "Master." While Baal was sometimes known as a storm or weather god, that was not always the case.

Historians report that Aurelian brought the spoils from the temple of Baal back to Rome from Palmyra Syria, which he used for the construction of the temple of the sun god Sol Invictus in Rome. Dedicated on December 25th.

In 354 A.D., over 300 years after the time of Christ, December 25th was listed on a Roman Calendar, drawn up by a Christian, as the most important pagan birthday of the year - the birthday of Sol Invictus, the sun god to whom Aurelians temple was dedicated. Sol Invictus appears on the coins of Constantine. SUNday was his day.
---Richard_Rives on 2/17/09


Yes it is true. Elagabalus, a priest of Baal became the Roman Emperor in 218 A.D.

Later in 273 the Roman Emperor Aurelian brought the worship of Baal back from Syria and dedicated a temple of the sun, Sol Invictus (the invincible sun)on December 25th., the traditional birthday of the sun gods.

Later, Constantine, considered by many to be the "First Christian Emperor" honored Sol even after claiming to be a Christian. His coins state that his companion was Sol Invictus.

In 321 Constantine established SUNday as a day of rest. The day of the sun.

Time is the Ally of Deceit.
---Richard_Rives on 2/17/09


Interesting, but full of errors. Baal was the Canaanite weather god, not the sun god. So the case for Sol Invinctus is not proven.
The usual connection to Christianity is Christmas, and there is no connection to Invinctus, it is from the Saturnalia, which had been celebrated in Rome on 25 December and most closely matches out Christmas.
---mike8384 on 2/16/09


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