Are Demons On Earth Now
Just got an email from a sister in the Lord...do you believe this? Demons are not fallen angels...fallen angels are not on the earth yet....they are too prideful to be here but they will be cast here......you can not bind. I say this is all false, what do you say?
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---donna8365 on 4/8/09
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Leon, Steveng
thank you for the correction. I did not consider the word in the language in which it was originally used. I stand corrected.
As you have stated "a rose by any other name is a rose".
"Not necessarily possessing a body. "
Steveng you will get no argument from me regarding that point. |
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---Josef on 4/18/09 |
frances008: "...they possess individuals, and sometimes animals. That is the only way they can do harm on earth. As disembodies spirits they cannot work."
And who do you suppose created the fire raining from the sky and the great wind from the wilderness and destroyed the house killing Job's sons and daughters? God later told Job who was behind the catastrophes. This is just one example.
But you haven't seen anything yet. Wait until the servants of God have been sealed on their foreheads. Revelation 7. |
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---Steveng on 4/16/09 |
Yes, I agree with Betty. There are some evil spirits that can harm, like poltergeists. Not many people take these spirits seriously, but they are IMHO real and harmful. No doubt they take other forms. I am convinced, however, that the main way they work on earth is through humans. That would be why a large part of Jesus Christ's work was to rid people of demons, and in some cases, they were healed of diseases when the demon was exorcised. |
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---frances008 on 4/16/09 |
Demons are fallen angels. They do not have to be in a body to do evil things. |
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---Betty on 4/16/09 |
Demons are definitely on this earth right now. The mediums they use are the mass media and also computer. Of course they possess individuals, and sometimes animals. That is the only way they can do harm on earth. As disembodies spirits they cannot work. Christians cannot have evil spirits, but only the Holy Spirit. Therefore if you call a Christian evil, or demon-possessed, you will have to give an account of yourself to God. |
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---frances008 on 4/16/09 |
catherine: "What do you mean, demons are not used biblically?"
Josef actually said the "word" demons are not used biblically. When posting make sure you carefully reread the posts. I sure hope you don't misread the bible in the same way.
Praying you and yours peace of mind, joy of spirit, good health and many great friends to share them with in Jesus' name. |
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---Steveng on 4/13/09 |
Donna, etc. It's my sincere belief that all persons (great & small), who're not born again believers in Jesus Christ, are tragically demon possessed & serve the god of this world (the devil). I believe the whole of the Bible (Gen. - Rev.) bears my belief out. What say you? :) |
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---Leon on 4/13/09 |
What do you mean, demons are not used biblically? Oh yes they are>>>Luke 4:33...A man possessed by the spirit of an unclean demon. Matt. 8:16>>> Demon possessed is used....Luke 10:17>>>Demons are subject to us. Demons are also described in the Bible as fallen angels. And yes there are some on this earth. Actually, too many. |
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---catherine on 4/13/09 |
Donna 2: In Matthew 8:29-30 demons begged Jesus not to cast them out. They ask Jesus if He had come to torment them before their time. Because the time is coming when all of them will be cast into hell. Jesus only dealed with those at the time. Many more will be cast into hell when the right time comes. |
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---MarkV. on 4/12/09 |
They exist but are insignificant where the name of Jesus is concerned, if someone does not believe in God, just how could the name of one man expel demon activity? It is still no proof to the man/woman that don't believe because in believing they first have to encounter them and when your salvation is never challenged Spiritually these beings tend not to bother you. |
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---Carla3939 on 4/12/09 |
Josef: "The word demon is never used Biblically."
What's in a name, a rose by any other name is a rose. The same with the word "trinity" or the names of Jesus and God.
"However, It is a term that man has associated with "evil spirits" who were 'conceived' as inhabiting the bodies of men."
Not necessarily possessing a body. Who do you think created a great wind from the wilderness to destroy the sons and daughters of Job? God only allowed it, though. This means that God will allow Satan to wreak havok during the tribulation. |
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---Steveng on 4/11/09 |
"The word demon is never used Biblically...a term...associated with 'evil spirits'..."
Josef: The word demon (derived from the Greek/Latin word daemon*) is also a term used to describe evil (devilish) or "UNCLEAN* SPIRITS" who are mentioned 22 times in the New Testament portion of the Bible.
Donna & Mima: Make no mistake about it, demons (devils, evil/unclean spirits) are fallen "into the earth" angels. (Lk. 10:17-20, Rev. 12:3-9) Jude 1:6 doesn't negate this fact.
P.S. Please disregard the Matt. 5:1-16 reference I made on 4/9, an obvious "senior moment" mistake. :)
*Daemon (demon): Akathartos, a foul, impure, devilish, UNCLEAN being (spirit).
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---Leon on 4/11/09 |
The word demon is never used Biblically.
However, It is a term that man has associated with "evil spirits" who were 'conceived' as inhabiting the bodies of men. In actuality, in terms of possession, it would be more applicable to malicious mindset, attitude or disposition which fills and governs the soul, as the psychological state, of any one open to the influence of Satan, manifested bodily through the words and/or actions of the influenced. |
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---Josef on 4/11/09 |
Of course they are just as angels are.If we could see clearly spiritually we could see these spiritual entities at battle all of the time. |
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---shirley on 4/10/09 |
If demons are not fallen angels where did they come from? There is/was agreat war in heaven and Satan and his angels were cast out. Satan was here on earth and he was a very high angel, it says so in a couple of places in the Bible. We know he was on earth, Adam and Eve, and even tempted Jesus, I'm sure he and his follower are still here and if they're not Demons who are? |
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---Allen on 4/10/09 |
Leon,
Part 4 of The Urantia Book is exclusive to the personalities who are classified as Midwayers.
As far as credibility,this is a good topic in TUB so give it your best disection.
There are no human persons who stand in line to recieve or take credit for the papers in the book. |
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---earl on 4/10/09 |
Earl: Is the author of this "non christian very informative spiritual book" you reference a Midwayer? That's the only "way" it could be remotely credible. Ask Mima, surely he knows. :)
Squirrely Earl, very squirrely!
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---Leon on 4/10/09 |
I agree mima is tracking a greater depth of meaning although not hid but piecing a puzzel together.
From a non christian very informative spiritual book I am somewhat familiar with there is made a distinction between all higher conscious intelligences above the human creature level.Between human and angel there is a group of invisible personalities who reside on our earth who when some rebeled with satan were then classified as devils where Beelzebub was chief of this splinter self willed defecting rebel group.They are commonly refered as being midway between human and angel thus they have the title as Midwayers. |
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---earl on 4/9/09 |
We can be certain there are demons. Also we can be sure that there are fallen angels. But are the fallen angels demons? I do not think so b/c of Jude 1:6,"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day." If not fallen angels where did the demons come from? Jesus said he saw Satan fall from heaven. And I believe when he fell from heaven he captured the beings that were here before Adam and Eve. You will remember that God told Adam and Eve to multiply and replenish the earth. To replenish something is to replace it and in this case I believe the it was beings of some nature before Adam. |
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---mima on 4/9/09 |
Mima: Please help me understand. If demons (unclean spirits, devils) aren't fallen angels, then what are they? (Matt. 5:1-16) |
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---Leon on 4/9/09 |
It is all false. I am so glad that you said it is false, because I was going to tell you that it's false. |
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---catherine on 4/9/09 |
Demons and fallen angels are one in the same. God created angels in which Lucifer was the number one in position. His position got to his head and thought he could place himself above God. Lucifer/Satan was cast to earth by God and took one third of the angels with him. Satan and his followers, the demons, will try to keep you away from God in one way or another. All during the Old Testament, he was trying to break the family chain from Adam so Jesus would not be born. Today, Satan knows he has only a short time left on earth and is pulling every trick in the book that he has learned over the past 6,000 years to decieve today's people and christians away from God. If it is possible for the elect to be fooled, how much more the christian? |
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---Steveng on 4/8/09 |
I know demons are on earth and are fallen angels. I have a deliverance ministry and have spoken to several demons who confirm this is true. |
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---Dale on 4/8/09 |
Casting out demons is part of the great commission and one of the signs that follow believers. Why would we be told to do something to something that didn't even exist? |
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---john on 4/8/09 |
If demons are not fallen angels, then what are they??? |
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---Bobby3 on 4/8/09 |
There are demons. They oppress republicans and sinners. But Jesus hung out with people like that. God bless. |
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---JohnnyB on 4/8/09 |
Donna, I would have to say like you are probably thinking, this Sister is confused about demons and fallen angels. They are one and the same and they are here on earth creating as much havoc as they can by deceiving those who do not read/understand Scripture. We need to pray and exhort the truth to those who are in such a state. |
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---tommy3007 on 4/8/09 |
If Christians would focus on and adhere to only what the Bible says we wouldn't be depending upon "what do you say?". Your friend has been duped by nonbiblical, "demonic" teaching. |
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---Leon on 4/8/09 |
Neither do I believe that demons are fallen angels. Scripture Jude 6,"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day." The angels that kept not their first estate would be "fallsn angles". And this Scripture plainly states where the fallen angels are. |
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---mima on 4/8/09 |
Your 'sister in the Lord' is uninformed and ignorant of bible teaching.
See Jude 1:6, Gen.6:2, Amos 5:26,Rev.12:4 among many other biblical references.
Some fallen angels are currently imprisoned until the day of God's judgement, 1Peter 3:19-20, 2Peter2:4,Jude1:6.
Some rule the realm of darkness with Satan.
They too will face the wrath of God, Matt.25:41. |
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---NV_Barbara on 4/8/09 |
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