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Cast Not Pearls Before Swine

What does Matthew 7:6 mean to you? Scripture,"Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you."

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Trav---
Google "Pork" or "Pig" and there are pages of VALID scientific information,...
---Donna66 on 4/13/11

Make one dang mistake on pigs...kicked outta the Pork Club. Quite interesting actually, Thanks. Learned something. Our farm had fifty, I was shocked at my info. Ha.
Guess you gotta roll with em (pigs)to see those pus-holes.
Donna you defend/validate the "noble pig" so well I'm having a microwave bacon sandwich.Mmmm. Really.
You go girl, eat those pigs feet again, their clean. I'll pass.
Heb 13:9
.....For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace, not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.
---Trav on 4/14/11


'pork' the other white meat.

thank God the invitation stands for all...even us dogs and pigs.
---aka on 4/14/11

AAAhhAAAhhhh. Bad Aka. "White meat" is forbidden phrase...... Swinacist. Ha.

Ok dogs...some mention of...but " wedding invitation for pigs" ??
Where did I miss that one at....
Here is one that reveals itself easily. Greedy,not understanding preacher dogs.
Barking and biting. Woofers.
Isaiah 56:11
Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.
---Trav on 4/14/11


This and other information you posted is totally false. false.
---Donna66 on 4/13/11

Well....not all...go buy you a wee lil piggy.
Have you a pet piggy already?
Feed piggy anything with a calorie. They will eat it. Personally seen them eat dung,dead snakes,chickens decayed past three days. Maybe it was the pretty yellow purple colours they liked?
Now you probably don't know it but, Cattle,are being feed Chicken litter at some feedlots. Plenty of undigested grain to add a pound or two. Throw the salt/minerals to it they'll eat it. And we'll eat them. Mmmm. What a world we've become.
---Trav on 4/14/11


Trav:

You said: It is when I use it.

Communication mean the same to sender and receiver. Non-standard words or meanings render it meaningless.

It is recognized as a word.

Dictionary says it is an erroneous word

You chop on this instead of worthier topics like "covenant" pointed out to you originally.

I used 7 words (less than 6%) on this detail, while your last post was 100% nitpicking. Also, your referenced the old covenant. I talk about the new.

You're not a StrongAxe either but I don't make to much of an issue out of it. Keep whetting at it.

Yet you keep bringing up my name and making an issue of it, as you just did here. Twice.
---StrongAxe on 4/14/11


Trav:

Regardless (not "irregardless", which is not a word).
---StrongAxe on 4/13/11

It is when I use it. I like it. Make me quit.
It is recognized as a word.
It exposed a "revealing" response. You chop on this instead of worthier topics like "covenant" pointed out to you originally.
You're not a StrongAxe either but I don't make to much of an issue out of it. Keep whetting at it.
Matt 3:10
And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Psalm 74:6
But now they break down the carved work thereof at once with axes and hammers.
---Trav on 4/14/11




'pork' the other white meat.

it is not what goes in...

thank God the invitation stands for all...even us dogs and pigs.
---aka on 4/14/11


Trav:

Regardless (not "irregardless", which is not a word) of whether pigs are filthy animals, or whether eating them causes health issues that are not caused by eating other cleaner animals, the fact remains that as Christians, we are not now (and have never been) bound by the Levitical dietary laws, and are free to eat whatever we please with a clear conscience (1 Timothy 4:1-4, Collossians 2:16, etc.). You can continue to complain about it, but since such complaints are dealing with medical issues rather than theological ones, they would be better served on a medical blog than on a Christian one.
---StrongAxe on 4/13/11


Trav---
//The pig is so poisonous and filthy, that nature had to prepare him a sewer line or canal running down each leg with an outlet in the bottom of the foot. Out of this hole oozes pus and filth his body cannot pass into its system fast enough. Some of this pus gets into the meat of pig.//
This and other information you posted is totally false. false.

This information comes from the writings of John Harvey Kellogg was born in l852 in Livingston County, Michigan, a staunch member of the Seventh-day Adventist Church.

Google "Pork" or "Pig" and there are pages of VALID scientific information, but you choose to post information from the 1800's
---Donna66 on 4/13/11


Trav:
What pigs CAN eat and what they DO eat are two different things. Pigs bred for food are fed specific diets. ---StrongAxe on 4/13/11

Hey I grew up on farm. We had all the general animals. Cattle,Hogs,Chickens by the thousands,Horses etc.
I eat pork. I still hate Chicken. I will ride Horses not eat them.
Glad you are raising your own clean Pork.
Irregardless it is what comes out of the mouth as we know.
Defend pork anyway "chopped" position like...it is still not "Lamb" or "Beef". Ugly end of the cloven hooves. Biblically or otherwise. You know it, as i do and maybe a few others.
Matthew 24:28
For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
---Trav on 4/13/11


Trav--- Can you cite ANY scientific facts to support your assumptions about porcine habits and anatomy? Please do if you can.
---Donna66 on 4/13/11




Trav:

What pigs CAN eat and what they DO eat are two different things. Pigs bred for food are fed specific diets. Shrimp are also nature's garbage collectors, but shrimp raised for food are fed clean diets.

You could just as easily extol the cleanliness of cattle, which are designed to eat grass and digest it cleanly - yet that all goes out the window when those same cows are fed animal byproducts to supplement their diets.

It's less a matter of species, and more a matter of diet. Of course, diet is heavily influenced by species for wild animals, but much less so for animals raised for food.
---StrongAxe on 4/13/11


Wow, headed in for a bacon sandwich ..then I goog'd Pig Pork digestion.
Googl:Pig a garbage gut eats anything urine, excrement,decaying animals, maggots,decaying vegetables, cancerous growths off other pigs or animals.

Meat/fat of a pig absorbs toxins. Their meat can be 30 times more toxic than beef or venison.
Swine carries 30 diseases easily passed to humans. Why God commanded that we are not even to touch their carcase (Leviticus 11:8).
The pig is so poisonous and filthy, that nature had to prepare him a sewer line or canal running down each leg with an outlet in the bottom of the foot. Out of this hole oozes pus and filth his body cannot pass into its system fast enough. Some of this pus gets into the meat of pig.
---Trav on 4/13/11


Adventists were very ambivalence when it came to what they should or should not eat.

Ellen White in responding to an inquiry -

"if it is your husband's wish to use swine's flesh, you should be perfectly free to use it."

To make sure the inquirer got the point right, James White wrote on the back of the envelope "that you may know how we stand on this question, I would say we have just put down a 200 pound porker."

Quoted in H.E. Carter, Mrs. E. G. White Claim to Divine Inspiration Examined, Advent & Sabbath Adocate Press, 1877.
---leonia on 4/12/11


"I'll say that pork is bad....we all know it. Ask any doctor." (Trav)

Pork is not bad. And not every doctor is in agreement that Pork (or meat in general), dietary cholesterol, and Saturated Fat cause heart disease (or raises the risk of cardiovascular disease) clogs arteries, causes bone lost, cause colon cancer and other types of cancers, etc.

If you think the scientific community are in "agreement", then you are dead wrong.

FWIW, if pork is bad, then explain why pasture pork has high levels of CLA, a anti-cancer nutrient?

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 4/12/11


Trav:

When someone here teaches something contradicted by scripture, I show the scriptures that contradicts him. I do this on many blogs, not just here. I don't start such discussions - I just point out when somebody else makes a provable mistake. This is hardly badgering.

I do not obey francis or anyone else here. But when someone teaches an error, and nobody corrects it, it implies the teaching is correct and everyone agrees with it - which could be a stumbling block to those who read these blogs and don't know any better.

"Pork is bad" is medical opinion, not scriptural docrine.

Also, comments like "Ur a hoot" aren't particularly useful in showing the validity of your position.
---StrongAxe on 4/12/11


Unfortuantely for a lack of wisdom this verse is often use as a hammer to condemn others. We concentrate on the dogs and swine instead of that "which is holy" all the while forgetting we are sheep.
---larry on 4/12/11


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//I'll say that pork is bad....we all know it. Ask any doctor.//

Go ahead, ask! I think you'll have a hard time finding a Dr.(M.D. type) who says pork is "bad". They will talk about the fat in pork and other meats.. but remove the outer layer of fat and pork is quite lean and healthy.
---Donna66 on 4/12/11


Trav:
HOWEVER, if one tries to tell anyone ELSE that THEY should also avoid pork, he is no longer merely exercising his own conscience, but making it an issue for others, "forbidding meats" ...

This is then elevated from an issue of personal conscience to one of teaching false doctrine.
---StrongAxe on 4/12/11

Ur a hoot. You badger, he responds with his belief. You feel compelled to obey Francis? Does anyone? Have you noticed pork belly market falling?
You don't seem to be convincing him.
I'll say that pork is bad....we all know it. Ask any doctor.
When did you start getting so upset over false doctrine? Seen you propose unwitnessed doctrines.
But, sure glad you are on that mission now.
---Trav on 4/12/11


Trav:

If one wants to not eat pork, or to avoid anything else according to his own conscience, more power to him. HOWEVER, if one tries to tell anyone ELSE that THEY should also avoid pork, he is no longer merely exercising his own conscience, but making it an issue for others, "forbidding meats" (which Paul warned Timothy about), and imposing rules and bondage on other Christians, for whom Jesus died in order to free them from bondage. This is then elevated from an issue of personal conscience to one of teaching false doctrine.
---StrongAxe on 4/12/11


Trav:

I am not the one who has an issue with eating pork. Francis is.
....he should let those who want to do so, do so with a clear conscience.
---StrongAxe on 4/11/11

Yes you do have an issue the same one he has. You're yea, he's nay.
If his conscience is clear why isn't yours?
Romans 14:20
For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure, but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.

And you might ought to check Jer 31:31/Heb8:8/ check the 280 times word is used. Covenant was made with the identical people as the old.
---Trav on 4/11/11
---Trav on 4/12/11


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Trav:

I am not the one who has an issue with eating pork. Francis is. I am merely pointing out that it SHOULDN'T be an issue. I am not telling him to eat pork, only that he should let those who want to do so with a clear conscience, do so with a clear conscience.
---StrongAxe on 4/11/11


We Christians are under a New Covenant - we are not bound by the laws of the old one, which was made with them, and not with us.
---StrongAxe on 4/10/11

Are you not bound. Are you really? You keep making an issue out of something that is not a New Covenant Issue.
Francis can eat or not what he feels led to. Do you own a Ham Sandwich stand or something? Sell blended fabrics? Need another customer or what?
What is your profit here?
Romans 14:20
For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure, but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.

And you might ought to check Jer 31:31/Heb8:8/ check the 280 times word is used. Covenant was made with the identical people as the old.
---Trav on 4/11/11


Do not give precious godly things you have received from God to those who would not value it. 1 example that comes to mind is in marriage, if you are godly, do not give yourself to an ungodly person in marriage.
---Adetunji on 4/11/11


StrongAxe**But these were part of the Old Covenant with the Jews. We Christians are under a New Covenant - we are not bound by the laws of the old one, which was made with them, and not with us.

And that is the main difference with those who wish to live in that ministry of death & condemnation and those who live under the ministry of the Spirit.(2 Cor. 3:7,9)
---leonia on 4/10/11


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francis *The Word of God does not forbid eating of foods nor does command the observance of the OT Sabbath.

1 Tim. 4:1-4 Now the Spirit expressly says in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, thru the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared,who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.

Ro 14:14 I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean.

And Ellen White lied as she credited her teachings to visions whereas she laborously copied from other authors.
---leonia on 4/10/11


2 Tim. 3:16-17 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work.

And that is why so very much Adventists have left that denomination and are now in churches that preach the truth.
---leonia on 4/10/11


francis:

If someone eats a hamburger, wouldn't Seventh Day Adventists say he sinned? In this way, they do exactly what 1 Timothy 4:3 warns about (i.e. forbidding meat). And if it were a pork chop, again, anyone who calls it a sin is warned about in 1 Timothy 4:4.

Yes, the Old Testament laws forbid eating pork, blending fabrics, cutting beards, touching dead animals, etc. Anyone clean shaven who eats a bacon double cheeseburger while wearing polyester to a Saturday afternoon football game violates half a dozen such commandments. But these were part of the Old Covenant with the Jews. We Christians are under a New Covenant - we are not bound by the laws of the old one, which was made with them, and not with us.
---StrongAxe on 4/10/11


And Adventists that forbid of eating of certain meats do fulfill this prophecy.
---leonia on 4/9/11

Name ONE things that adventist forbid that the WOD OF GOD does not forbid?

You seem to ignore text like:
Luke 4:4 That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

And you MISSED this part of the text
1 Timothy 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

Show me anywhere where God has sanctified swine?
---francis on 4/10/11


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**1 Timothy 4:1-4:

And Adventists that forbid of eating of certain meats do fulfill this prophecy.

Christians are totally free to eat whatever they consider to be food and Adventists fight against the word of truth in telling others what they can or cannot eat and what day(s) they may observe.

Col. 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

The only Sabbath in the New Covenant is the Christian Sabbath - the Lord's day=Sunday.
---leonia on 4/9/11


jerry6593:

I never once claimed Jesus ate pork.

Also, 1 Timothy 4:1-4:
"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils,
"Speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their conscience seared with a hot iron,
"Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
"For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:


Note the last verse also speaks directly to the topic of this blog.
---StrongAxe on 4/8/11


Trav,
You flatter yourself when you call yourself a sheep dog.
---christan on 4/8/11

Well as usual you're a little touchy and partially correct. Swine is in reference to those who wallow in filth of the world. Wisdom/pearls a waste of time.
Even dogs can get a crumb so be careful...you're showing fangs now.
Dogs were also male prostitutes in scripture in the literal sense of the word.
There are plenty of those too as is evident.
Really no such thing as an attack sheep though. Maybe I was a little hasty in your fleece marks.
I've never prophecied...but, know all the prophets. I'll introduce you sometime.
Eccl 10:11
Surely the serpent will bite without enchantment, and a babbler is no better.
---Trav on 4/8/11


Trav, when Christ called one a "dog" and "swine" in the parable of the pearl, I assure you it was not complementary remark but a reference to one being no better than an animal. Man was not made an animal because when the animal dies, it has no soul to be cast into the lake of fire. Whereas the man has a soul, that's the real difference between an animal and a man. You flatter yourself when you call yourself a sheep dog.

Christ has warned me, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."
---christan on 4/8/11


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Matthew 7:6 teaching confirms that there are some of mankind created whom Christ says are "dogs" and "swine", ...
What's really sobering is, did God loved you like He loved Jacob?
---christan on 4/7/11

I'll just be the best dang sheep dog that ever guarded a sheep...if that family. Woof....grrrrrr.

You show marks of a sheep to me at times. Like today.
Isaiah 56:5-6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant,
---Trav on 4/8/11


"Many New Testament manuscripts refer to the "Country of the Gadarenes" or "Gerasenes" rather than the Gergesenes. Both Gerasa and Gadara were cities to the east of the Sea of Galilee. They were both Gentile cities filled with citizens who were culturally more Greek than Semitic, this would account for the pigs in the biblical account."
Wikipedia
Matthew 8:29_34.
---Nana on 4/8/11


Axey: You misinterpret scripture. If you are correct, then the Bible contradicts itself. Peter's own admission decades after the cross was that he had NEVER eaten anything unclean. He further explained that the entire context of his sheet vision was religious bigotry (calling MEN unclean). Similarly, the context of Jesus' "mouth" comments was pharisaical ritual washings - not pork consumption.

Again, show me the scripture that has Jesus eating pork, and I'll believe you.
---jerry6593 on 4/8/11


jerry6593:

You can't claim a doctrine is based on the Bible by citing one part of the Bible as an authority (i.e. your Genesis "primal blueprint") and the simultaneously rejecting other parts of the Bible (i.e. that same Genesis permitting eating of clean animals after the flood, and Peter's dream about eating unclean meats, and Jesus himself saying that what goes into one's mouth does not make one unclean). Either the Bible is an authority or isn't. Pick one or the other, but you can't pick both.
---StrongAxe on 4/7/11


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Matthew 7:6 teaching confirms that there are some of mankind created whom Christ says are "dogs" and "swine", who will never love Jesus and that is because He never loved them. And if Christ never loved you, His blood was never shed for you regardless of your claims that you love and belief in Him. In verse 22,23 of the same chapter

"Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew (love) you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

What's really sobering is, did God loved you like He loved Jacob?
---christan on 4/7/11


Iggy: Now try to concentrate. The subject at hand is swine. You tried to infer that swine consumption adhered to some "primal blueprint". I gave you scripture that shows that a vegetarian diet was the "primal blueprint". Now you try to infer that since clean meat consumption was "allowed" after the flood, and Jesus and the apostles ate fish, that swine consumption is also OK. Jesus and the Apostles NEVER ate unclean meat. Show me the scripture where Jesus ate pork and I'll believe you!
---jerry6593 on 4/7/11


A lot of people who eat sugar, grains, processed foods, processed vegetable oils, etc (corn, etc)are healthy, too. My father lived to 97 eating all these things except, instead of processed vegetable oils he ate pork fat. Many who ate as he did lived long, healthy lives. Of course, he worked harder than most folks today.

Diet in developed countries has become very faddish IMO... sometimes followed with almost religious devotion...self-righteously preached to the those who don't bow at the shrine of "Health".
Mat6:25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink, nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?.
---Donna66 on 4/6/11


You must mean some man-made, anti-biblical primal blueprint.
---jerry6593 on 4/6/11

Anti-biblical? Eating meat is anti-bibical? You are delusional. Christ ate meat Jerry. We are free indeed to eat meat, according to the New Testament. Organic 100% Grassfed Beef, Bison, Lamb, pasture pork, chicken, turkey, and game meats are all healthy, and filled with vitamins, minerals, omega 3, and anti-cancer agents like CLA.

What is anti-biblical about that?

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 4/6/11


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Iggy: "So yea, call me and others who follow the Primal Blueprint way of eating"

Primal Blueprint? I thought that the primal blueprint was:

Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed, to you it shall be for meat.

You must mean some man-made, anti-biblical primal blueprint.
---jerry6593 on 4/6/11


What should we call people who eat swine?- jerry6593

Healthy individuals, as long as they do not eat sugar, grains, processed foods, processed vegetable oils, etc (corn, etc). Organic 100% Grassfed Beef, Bison, Lamb, pasture pork, chicken, turkey, and game meats are all healthy, and filled with vitamins, minerals, omega 3, and anti-cancer agents like CLA. Under the New Covenant, we are free to eat all these delicious meats! In matter of fact, one can eat very low carb, with few veggies/fruits (if any) but lots of meats/fats and be healthily, like the Eskimos.

So yea, call me and others who follow the Primal Blueprint way of eating, healthy individuals!

Health piggies equal healthy individuals, Jerry.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 4/5/11


jerry6593:

You said: They say that you are what you eat.

If that were strictly speaking true, one might think that many people on these blogs eat too many turnips, because of the great evidence of the root of bitterness in many posts. :)
---StrongAxe on 4/5/11


It may in fact be literal.
People nowdays are more loving and caring for their pets than they are for their fellow humans, or even themselves.
---danny-o on 4/4/11


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Dogs=Scribes
Swine=Pharisees.

Scribes and Pharisees were rigid, religious, legalistic, accusative, condemning, severe, proud and conceited.
They actually got up in Christ's grill with their accusations.
Man, they had a lot of nerve.
---larry on 4/4/11


Good answer, Trav.
---Cluny on 4/4/11


They say that you are what you eat. What should we call people who eat swine?
---jerry6593 on 3/31/11

Call them free.

Matthew 15:11
Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man, but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.

Titus 1:15
Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure, but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

Isaiah 29:24
They also that erred in spirit shall come to understanding, and they that murmured shall learn doctrine.
---Trav on 4/4/11


ALL the times that I ask forgiveness and STILL continue to go back ...
... doing what my flesh wills that I do over what the Lord wants us to.
---Man-D on 3/21/11

Keep fighting Man-D. Was an Apostle...who stated what you do. We all fight ourselves. Thoughts are with ya. i pray for hedge of protection 4 Man-d.

19For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

20Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

21I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
23But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, bringing me into captivity to law of sin which is in my members.
---Trav on 4/4/11


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They say that you are what you eat. What should we call people who eat swine?
---jerry6593 on 3/31/11


It means that we should not cast our beliefs that we hold most dear before those who are proverbial swine. They will trample our precious pearls under their feet and then attack us.
As Christ instructed the man who was previously possessed with a legion of devils:
Mr5:19 Howbeit Jesus suffered him not, but saith unto him, Go home to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee, and hath had compassion on thee.
---trey on 3/21/11


In my struggles, and so far futile attempts to completely abstain from substance abuse, I have delt w/ this scripture many many times until I found out what it means to me....The "Pearls" represent to me Salvation. Is that not the greatest and sought after blessing for a believer is the redemptive power of accepting Jesus as our Savior? And the "Casting of them before swine", refers to ALL the times that I ask forgiveness and STILL continue to go back around the same Godless people and get high and throw all of what was accomplished, bought, paid for, forgiven never to be remembered again, and doing what my flesh wills that I do over what the Lord wants us to.
---Man-D on 3/21/11


To me it means something like.. Don't beat a dead horse. If your attempt to wittness wont be heard or not being respected by this person or people, move on and do not waste your time anymore. Peeing against the wind so to speak.. lest you get your hair wet..lol
---Tim on 3/20/11


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The new and modern church movements over the last 30-40 years are a prime example of a church that has returned to the world it was supposed to come out of.
And all who share the word with these swine and dogs are doing just what the Lord said not to.
---Frank on 12/27/10


Matt. 7:6 does not pertain to the Church the body of Christ? Matt is the Lord Jesus dealing with the nation of Israel. Jews referred to Gentiles as dogs, and He tells the 12 not to go to gentiles. Matt. 10:6
And he is not dealing with them himself Matt. 15:24

---michael_e on 12/26/10


imm-- I don't think for a moment that Christ had any concern for our "hurt feelings" when He said Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you,." I think this because He warned time and again that we should prepare to be "hated" as he was hated!

But if someone persists in ridiculing or defaming the Gospel, why give them more platform to do so? And if their diatribe against you convinces others to reject the Gospel, you may not be furthering the Gospel in this instance. Pick up your "pearls" and take them to someone who may be more receptive.
---Donna66 on 12/25/10


This principle is why Jesus Himself did not do many miracles for unbelievers (13:58) where it says,
"Now He did not do many mighty works there because of their unbelief"
This is to be done in respect for what is holy, not merely out of contempt for the dogs and swine. Nothing here contradicts the principle of (5:44), That verse governs personal dealings with one's enemies, This principle governs how one handles the gospel in the face of those who hate the Truth. "lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces."
V. 7:1, "Judge not" yet we are to judge with righteous judgment. So when someone tramples the Word, we should use that principle.
---Mark_V. on 12/26/10


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jmm said," don't think this about whether or not to share the gospel." Question, what other pearls do you have besides the gospel?
---mima on 12/25/10


I don't think this about whether or not to share the gospel. Jesus didn't say don't do this 'because'..... He never said not to do this because you will be laughed at or mocked or ridiculed. He was all of those things. Sounds to me like some are maybe missing the point. Those are personal attacks that would hurt or embarass us but He did not say that was the reason not to 'cast your pearls before swine'. I think the person closest to the mark is the gentleman with the relative that is of a scientific opinion while he is of the religious mind. God DID not call us all.
---jmm on 12/22/10


Luk 17:17 And Jesus answering said, Were there not ten cleansed? but where are the nine?
Luk 17:18 There are not found that returned to give glory to God, save this stranger.
---TheSeg on 4/14/09


But Trav ... If we give the good news to 1000, and one beleives ... have we not done the right thing?

We can't assume that all non-beleivers will mock
---alan8566_of_UK on 4/14/09

It doesn't take long to figure out who accepts and who doesn't. Let em mock.
Why don't your 999 believe? They were not drawn, to begin with.
I fish in a river, there are fish that will never eat the lure I'm using. Naturally, they don't eat that particular bait, but eat that which they normally feed on.
There is only one Truth. Yet,many gospels going around.
The ironic thing about truth is, it is not popular. Popular should raise a flag of awareness. (Wide is the way....)
---Trav on 4/14/09


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But Trav ... If we give the good news to 1000, and one beleives ... have we not done the right thing?

We can't assume that all non-beleivers will mock
---alan8566_of_UK on 4/14/09


---alan8566_of_UK I would agree with Donna, except her last paragraph, for that suggests we should not give the Good News to unbelievers or sceptics.

I wasn't referring to not sharing the gospel with unbelievers.

What I meant was not to give our PEARLS, the deep revelations of God, the things that God reveals to us UNTIL the Holy Spirit releases us to.

I won't share the Gospel with my Jewish neighbor because she will tell me to go pound sand. The Holy Spirit told me to LOVE HER. That was my instructions and for 2 years. I've been loving her no matter how she gets on my nerves..lol. I will give her the gospel when the Holy Spirit releases me to - right now I'm to love her and show her Christ in Me, the Hope of Glory.
---donna8365 on 4/14/09


You shall not take something holy and give it to the devil. Pearls are of great price. Swine symbolizes devils.
---t on 4/14/09


Surely, we should give it to them? They might then beleive.
---alan8566_of_UK on 4/13/09

It is not good news (gospel) to many. No man can come unless he is drawn. We should all be wise as serpents etc, etc.

I used to be on my own mission to save the world. Then I allowed myself to be lead/open/receptive to the mission. Makes me wonder why fishermen made good disciples. Perhaps there are fishing techniques,and signs that might catch more or the big catch. I was caught by provocation. Buzz bait got me.
---trav on 4/13/09


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I would agree with Donna, except her last paragraph, for that suggests we should not give the Good News to unbelievers or sceptics.
Surely, we should give it to them? They might then beleive.

But if they mock us, then we should walk away from them
---alan8566_of_UK on 4/13/09


I was doing a job for a rich man. (With money)
I like to listen to the NT and work.
One day, after a few words, I said "why dont you believe in god."
He said, "GOD, we ate the horse only the tail is lift" (I got it right away, just a story)
After a moment, I said, "You know, my answer, right!" (I am working for him)
He asks what, so I said, "like in all animals its the location of the tail"
He got it right away too, "its above the ---", true story.
I always ask if you believe in some kind of a God.
If no ones home, I leave.
You need a measure of faith.
OrWhats the sense.
---TheSeg on 4/13/09


I try not to view any human being as a swine. Every person is created in the image of God. Blessings.
---JohnnyB on 4/10/09

At one time I would have thought you a correct noble minded Christian. But, in reality u go against scripture and walk with the enemy giving them what was never intended. You would harm an extended family to be equal to all. A universal man. You may be a very young uread man. Or a unread old man.
Even GOD hates some. As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
Romans 9:12-14
---Trav on 4/13/09


I have a relative that is a great scientific mind yet he constantly mocks me because of my beliefs. I have stopped trying to reason with him at family events and I have decided just to show him love. He knows my position on God and if he ever has questions again I will address them. However for now, any discussions of a Godly nature will simply turn him back into swine and will be a waste of God's pearls. I have other relatives that are more receptive to the word and I spend more time with them.
---TIMOTHY on 4/13/09


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I have believed this scripture mean don't reveal the deep things of God to people who will mock you and not receive them.

Mary pondered things in her heart which meant she didn't go blabbing she was pregnant until the time when the Holy Spirit told her she could go about telling people.

The Lord reveals many things to us, right? We are not to go sharing these pearls with unbelievers or even believers whom we know won't receive them and will laugh and make fun of them. Skeptics. Unbelievers, etc.,
---donna8365 on 4/13/09


"What does Matthew 7:6 mean to you?

I must admit, to me it means absolutely nothing.
I have no intention to give pearls or that which is holy to either "dogs" nor "swine", it would have no value to either.
I do not, can not, will not equate those terms to any man, and will give the reason for my hope, in Christ, to anyone desiring to know, whether accepted or rejected.
Although I understand the concept, I personally find it inapplicable. For me to apply it would of a necessity require a judgement on my part. I chose not to attempt to judge -as to decide upon critically- anything relating to another man before the time of judgement, recognizing that is a judgement that only Jesus is qualified to make.
---Josef on 4/13/09


I ahd always regarded it as meaning if we had something of value, don't give it to those who are not worthy of it.

And then, relating it to the Gospel, it could mean that we should not waste our time on telling the Gospel to those who will (or have) rejected it. That would seem to tie in with Matthew 10.14 & 15.

MOE's response seems to refer to an incident 8 chapters further on in Matthew, which shows that God will give blessings even to those who are supposedly unworthy ... Jesus remained silent then challenged that Canaanite woman to declare her faith, and when she did, He healed her daughter.
---alan8566_of_UK on 4/11/09


if bible is a book of spirit, then this sentence might mean: we should not give our "Fall away" or "Astray" any reason of "Good". That is, we could not use bible to exculpate ourselves. In other words, we could not judge others.
---dsda8985 on 4/10/09


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It is a type of Jewish poem. The first stanza points to the last, dogs rend, and the second refers to the third, swine trample. Holy has to be compared to God, his word, nature, and will. Generally, dogs refer to gentiles, but could fit anyone who is antagonistic to the gospel. The Jews would have been repelled at the thought of giving a dedicated meat offering to savage dogs. Pigs represent people who are "fleshly" and insensitive to the things of the Lord, and throwing valuable pearls to them would be of no benefit. Some commentators seem to make special reference to both dogs and swine rending you when rebuked, Proverbs 9:7.

-Glenn
---Glenn on 4/10/09


I try not to view any human being as a swine. Every person is created in the image of God. Blessings.
---JohnnyB on 4/10/09


For those who have been about their Father's business for a length of time recognize that the spiritual saving truth (-the pearl of great price)is not respectfully recieved by dogs and swine .The old saying is, "it is wasted effort".
---earl on 4/10/09


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