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I Love A Catholic Guy

I have just met an amazing guy. I'm saved and he's Catholic and strongly belives in Catholic values. We have talked about the possibilities of one of us moving to the other's church and we are both not ready at this point in time. Can this relationship work?

Moderator - Not a good idea.

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 ---Nandipa on 4/14/09
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Nandipa, you just don't move from faith to another faith. If your faith is from God, then you are guided by the Holy Spirit. If you are guiding yourself, then you have no dependence on God. While there is believers in the RCC, their doctrines teach salvation by works and they save no one. If you believe already on that, then you will have no trouble joing them. But, if you believe that God saved you according to His mercy, then you will have to wait to see if God saves your friend by His mercy, unless he already believes that.
Here you are talking about two very different beliefs. I suggest it is not a very good idea if you haven't done it yet.
---Mark_V. on 12/15/11


Eloy: 'idolaters and Christians should not be yoking together'

And where, Eloy, do you get the idea of Catholic=idolator?

Please explain, either scripturally (actualy words, not inferences = you can infer anything from any verse) or with clear, proper logic
---Mark on 12/13/11


idolaters and Christians should not be yoking together.
---Eloy on 12/12/11


On catholic guy radio they had a triva question on how mary, and joseph lived in a city in Turkey?
---Dan on 12/11/11


The Moderator is right it's not a good idea. Especially when you have children and you're both are at odds over which church to go to. I don't believe either of you will convince the other to switch. It would certainly need to be done outside your relationship in order for it be a true conversion and not because of your relationship. It is sad that two good folks have to face this. It would be a lot easier if he was a creep, but he is a great guy and full of faith and I'm sure he thinks the same about you. Remember this.. people are flexible when it just you two, but when children come in, it is another story completely.

---Pastor_Jim on 11/2/09




The Moderator is right, Christians should not be unequally yoked to idolaters.
---Eloy on 11/1/09


I agree that Catholics are Christian.
Some may not be born again Christians
but the Catholic doctrine is Christian.
If neither of you are flexible it might
not work. Maybe you could become
Unitarian Universalist.
---will on 10/31/09


If your relationship requires one of you to switch religions it may not work. People have their beliefs and they should not be imposed upon. Although some people believe that they must save other people, there is also an important element of respect. Neither he nor you should presure the other to be someone who he or she may not be. It could work if you both respected each other and held that you both believe in Christ as the one and true savior. Catholics are actually Christians too. We have been babtized in the name of Jesus Christ, accepted him and praise him as our one and true Lord. I am not here to argue that point, I am just here to answer your question, so I will stop there. Hope that helps anyone who has found this question.
---Catherine on 10/17/09


I would like to reply to Bob's answer to the fact that the true church is the Catholic Church.

I was raised as a Catholic, but am no more, and at a very early age I questioned how a mere priest can say that my sins are forgiven and then give us a penance for forgiveness. There is only one person who can forgive our sins and that's the good Lord Himself and he doesn't make us say a whole lot of prayers as a penance. One of the 10 Commandments is that we should not have any other Gods before us, but him. How can you pray to Jesus mother Mary and Joseph, who wasn't even Jesus father. What about the other "Saints" that you pray to. There is only one person we can pray to and that is God through Jesus Christ.
---Norma on 7/29/09


Seek the Lord until you get an answer. Although you might value the opinions of others, no one knows what you should do more than God. I was Catholic growing up and went to college and got saved. God may have a plan for you and this man or this may not be God's will at all. But only GOD KNOWS!
---Denise on 7/23/09




The finest most kind man I have ever know was or is LtCol David Robinson..His is a charismatic Catholic. He attended mass every day. HE SPOKE IN TOUNGES, and was very, very insitefull. Condem no one but put your won house in order. Lets us not be concerned with the beliefs and rituals of other churchs. All churchs are ritualistic to some point.
---Chuck on 7/22/09


Sorry to burst your bubble folks, but while I try to respect others' beliefs I simply can't remain silent this time. Yes, the Catholic Church is mired in tradition and some of the things we do might seem "alien" to you. But we do NOT "live in sin all week" and then think that abstaining from meat on Fridays during Lent will cleanse us. The fact is, Jesus commanded that there would be "one true Church" - and that Church is, whether you like it or not, the Catholic Church.
---Bob on 7/21/09


In the usual hidden occultish underhand manner, the Pope, while everyone was completely brainwashed by the Vatican controlled media, into watching Michael Jackson's death Part 56, produced an encyclical calling for a NWO just on the eve of the G8 meeting and a couple of days before he meets 'The Light' Hussein Obama.
---frances008 on 7/9/09


If he really was an amazing guy, he would have discovered that the RC Church is a huge cult under the control of the Pope and the Jesuits who also control the world. And they are certainly not making the world into a better place.
---frances008 on 7/7/09


This man is r-catholic. Are you a baptist or a,nazarine,methodist,preby etc? It should work with No prob because the bapt,naz,metho,
presby etc churches are the branched Off from r-catholocism. For r-catholocism being the first trin-church.
The Apostolic Pentecostal Church Is NOT a part of r-catholocism. What communion has light with darkness?,NONE, & what has fellowship the Righteous with the un-righteous,NONE. It does Not mix.
---Lawrence on 7/4/09


One Faith, One Baptism, One Lord

Believe and be Baptized. Young lady let love lead you. I sit with the church of Christ because of all the rant from those who know better. You called my name but you never knew me. Take the Good Samaritan as an example and be one. Walk in Faith for we do not know it all. Faith and Morals surely the Catholic Church has right. God works there as in the whole world. Baptism is dying and rising with Christ. Perhaps many give of themselves in love in life and are not even Christian and know Christ well. It is a kind of Baptism. To read the Bible and become cold is not very close to Father not the Son nor the Holy Spirit. Good luck to you and LOVE fully even if you make mistakes.
---carpenter on 6/7/09


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I agree with the Moderator.
---SuzieH on 6/7/09


well actually men and women are so different sometimes I wonder how that works.
---tom2 on 6/6/09


It's obvious that we who call ourselves Christians hold different doctrinal beliefs. I would just like to encourage everyone to be respectful toward one another. Regardless of what your denomination is...please.
---Shirley on 4/25/09


Andy:-1. Based on what you say do you worship PICCASSO!!
2,Do you wish to countermand Jesus words?read Matt.28:18-20. NO SUPPOSITION. When one turns against JESUS one turns against Himself, to become like Jesus.You choose to follow your own way, your own road and PICASSO.<:-)
---MIC on 4/24/09


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Alan8566UK, Yes and No. An adult has to both believe and be Baptized to be Saved. Infants only has to be Baptized.

So, the Character Mark of Baptism is on His soul as Katavasia said. Baptism is one of the 7 Sacraments.
A Sacrament is depended on God's power not man's actions or words.

Now free will can rejected the Graces given to him from the Baptismal mark. But he can not deny the fact that the Grace is given.

If an Atheist pretends to believe in God to marry someone, but reveals later he doesn't. His nonbeliefs doesn't make God nonexistence.

So the Graces of Salvation was given if given as instructed by Jesus. Trinity and water is used.

You can't reject what isn't given. You reject what is given to you.
---Natalie2 on 4/24/09


deffenately, it implies that however no catholic has a mary in his house only a staue they do worship Mary even if they say they dont. if one finds my answer to have no sense let me give this proverb "why should i make picture that make sense, we live in a world that makes no sense" PICASSO
---Andy on 4/24/09


2. the same catholics confess their sins to a priest and receive absolution only through a priest (delegated papal and ecclesiastic authority suposedly received from Peter). and still they say they dont.
---Andy on 4/24/09


Ruben i once asked a Budhist why do you have budhas in your house? he answerred you misunderstood there is no budha in my house. so i showed him a statue of budha in his house, so he said this is not budha this is a chalk statue of budha. He was right, yet i was not wrong (this story is a parable=
---Andy on 4/23/09

So, the moral of the parable is you both were right...
---Ruben on 4/23/09


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Ruben i once asked a Budhist why do you have budhas in your house? he answerred you misunderstood there is no budha in my house. so i showed him a statue of budha in his house, so he said this is not budha this is a chalk statue of budha. He was right, yet i was not wrong (this story is a parable=
---Andy on 4/23/09


And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea, it shall be done.

And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.

The baptism of John, whence was it? from heaven, or of men?

Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?

Blessed Be The Lord My God
---TheSeg on 4/23/09


Natalie ... I was talking about adult baptism

Suppose a non_Catholic (maybe even an athest) wants to marry a catholic, and in order to achieve this, agrees to be baptised (and then confirmed)

As an atheist he wouild not mean a word of what he was declaring, or of what he was receiving.

Would the fact that the preist had performed the ceremony, and with great honesty and belief, make that baptism true.

Would the atheist become a "saved" or "trus Catholic because of the ceremony?
---alan8566_of_UK on 4/22/09


Sorry Alan6566UK, I didn't see your question.
Yes, Baptism makes SAVED or true Catholic as you put it.
Salvation comes from God. A Gift. God comes to you first. Not you discovered Him first.

Just like circumcision made boys Jewish.
No one asked them if they wanted to be Jewish? Adult converts had to states beliefs and circumcision.

Pharoah's daughter knew Exodus 2:6..she looked,.."It is one of the Hebrews' children."
Only one reason she knew this.
Only the Jews practiced circumcision on their boys.

Now you can always return a gift can't you?
So you can reject your baptismal promises made by your Parents and yourself when you are older.
FREE WILL
Mark 16:16 goes to Adults and Babies.
---Natalie2 on 4/22/09


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Why do Catholics confess their sins to a priest? And not go directly to God?


---donna8365 on 4/21/09


"For whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee, or to say, Arise, and walk?
But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins,...

"But when the multitudes saw it, they marvelled, and glorified God, which had given such power to men (Mt 9:5-8)

" Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: whose soever sins ye remit , they are remitted unto them, and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained."(Jhn 20:20-23)
---Ruben on 4/22/09


donna8365* What I would like to know is: Why do Catholics idolize Mary?

we don't, we honor her.

Have statues of her around their house? Didn't God say thou shall have no idols before me? Maybe it's me, I'm wrong.

Not wrong, just misunderstood!

donna8365* Also, why doesn't the Pope realize that when people reach out to touch him or the host, that is idol worship.

How?

Why do Catholics not eat meant during lent on Fridays and yet live in sin all week long? My cousin lives with his g/f and yet follows lent as if that is going to purify him and get him into heaven. Too funny!

That is funny, poor guy!
---Ruben on 4/22/09


Donna:-Since you would like to Know.1:-Why do we love Mary?she is the mother of God who was obedient to death :2nd Eve,withouth her what would the world be today.God created Her for a purpose and Jesus gave her to us, "here is your MOTHER"Every Good child loves its motherHonourYour Father and Mother, revere her in her old age Bless her as without her help you would not be where you are today.2.The Pope is a representative He does hold Audiences.If you were Catholic you would be able to receive The B & B of Jesus.we all do.
3Matt28:18-20 says we should tell our sins to his representative as it needs direct human contact.Does not one tell his crimes to a judge before sentencing?4.A form of pennance during lent.ask your cousin.
---MIC on 4/22/09


Donna's inquiries are very logical and also very condemning to the blind followers of the RCC!
---mima on 4/22/09


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No Donna, this formism is not funny, for it blinds catholics from the fact they are lost.
---Andy on 4/22/09


Donna said: "Maybe it's me, I'm wrong"

I fully agree with that statement.
---Paul2 on 4/22/09


What I would like to know is: Why do Catholics idolize Mary? Have statues of her around their house? Didn't God say thou shall have no idols before me? Maybe it's me, I'm wrong.

Also, why doesn't the Pope realize that when people reach out to touch him or the host, that is idol worship.

Why do Catholics confess their sins to a priest? And not go directly to God?

Why do Catholics not eat meant during lent on Fridays and yet live in sin all week long? My cousin lives with his g/f and yet follows lent as if that is going to purify him and get him into heaven. Too funny!
---donna8365 on 4/21/09


Try to understand!
Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness,

and all these things shall be added unto you.

Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
---TheSeg on 4/20/09


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Natalie, I'm not trying to tell you what your religion or faith believes, I'm just trying to have a discussion that relates to the original blog. As far as scriptures go, let's take the "whole" of the scriptures, not just one isolated verse that proves our point. The person that wrote the blog asks about a guy who is a Catholic and has strong Catholic values. You are saying that baptism saves you. Again, my question is if this is true, why did Christ die? After all, John the baptist was baptizing before Christ started preaching.
---Shirley on 4/20/09


Natalie, I'm not trying to tell you what your religion or faith believes, I'm just trying to have a discussion that relates to the original blog. As far as scriptures go, let's take the "whole" of the scriptures, not just one isolated verse that proves our point. The person that wrote the blog asks about a guy who is a Catholic and has strong Catholic values. You are saying that baptism saves you. Again, my question is if this is true, why did Christ die? After all, John the baptist was baptizing before Christ started preaching.
---Shirley on 4/20/09


Paul ... That seems a sensible modification to yuors of 4/16! I think you do agree with me!
---alan8566_of_UK on 4/20/09


Alan, if someone leads a bad life, then that person is not a true Catholic or true Protestant.

S/he may be classified as Catholic but a bad Catholic.
---Paul2 on 4/20/09


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Natalie ... can you return to my question to you of 4/15?
Mark 16.16 actually does require belief. Baptism without belief does not save.
The first thing surely is the beleif, then the baptism
Without the beleif the baptism by the priest can mean nothing.
I'm not talking about infant baptism, which is another issue.
---alan8566_of_UK on 4/20/09


Natalie2, If you are saying that all Catholics are baptized as such and therefore all are saved, you are in error.---Shirley on 4/16/09

I am Catholic and you are wrong.
I know what RCC teaches. They follow Jesus' Words not opinions of others. Jesus states Baptized Saves in Mark 16:16.

We don't try to make excuses or examined the words. We take His Words as HE states them. His Words are good enough for us.

Now you can lose your Salvation.
But, you are Saved when you are Baptized.

Remember, I am speaking about MY OWN FAITH, not yours.
So, how are you going to tell me how my faith believes?
I not telling you how your faith believes?

Some of you all act like experts on all beliefs.
---Natalie2 on 4/19/09


K ... I was asking Paul, who is a Roman Catholic, so I expect he should be able to tell me what his church believes
---alan8566_of_UK on 4/19/09


**So I should have asked, if that baby later rejects all that the baptism stood for, the promises and affirmations that wre made on his behalf, and rejects and denounces God... does he remain a true Catholic?

I can't see the RCC would still want to count him among the number of Catholics.**

I believe they teach that a bad Catholic remains a Catholic, though he might carry the baptismal character down with him into hell.

Of course, if one really whats to know what the Roman Catholic Church actually teaches, that person can always look it up in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

Most here seem to be satisfied with their own misconceptions, however.
---katavasia on 4/18/09


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Paul ... I suppose my question was faulty, in that the RCC tends to baptise babies (as does my pown Protestant denomination) who are unaware of the procedings.

So I should have asked, if that baby later rejects all that the baptism stood for, the promises and affirmations that wre made on his behalf, and rejects and denounces God... does he remain a true Catholic?

I can't see the RCC would still want to count him among the number of Catholics.
---alan8566_of_UK on 4/18/09


Thanks MIC for the clarification. I find this really interesting. I'm just wondering about absolving sin and original sin. Where does that come from? Is this the baptism or sprinkling of infants? Also, I'm understanding you to say that once absolved, or baptized, RC's then endeavor to become Christ-like in their lives by the way they live, and therefore become Christians? Am I getting it right?
---Shirley on 4/18/09


there is nothing in between you to at all.
I am CAtholic and saved. What makes you think this guy you met isn't saved?

Catholic are Christians.
I am.
I am saved.
Jesus is my Lord , God an Savior and redeemer.
As is many who are members of the Catholic church.

They would not be there if Jesus wasn't King, Savior, the Lord of all.

And Yes , If you both Love and accept the Lord Jesus into your heart and believe in Him . Trust In him. give all glory and honor to Him!
It can work.

Jesus breaks through all denominations
---paul on 4/17/09


Shirley:-Many Christians like yourself do not know the truth about the R/C's doctrine.Baptism does not save it absolves sin and original sin.1. to believe in Jesus You must FIRST Know HIM.This does not give you graces.2.The inheriting of eternal life is based upon your endeavour in FOLLOWING HIM and Being Perfect as His Father is perfect, ie without the blemish of sin.That is why he says "KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS.and Love your neighbour as yourself".JESUS left us with a legacy HIS NOMINATED church.From where do you get DENOMINATIONS? he did not create any -MAN DID.
---MIC on 4/17/09


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Can you explain, I'm saved and he's Catholic.
By your own words this will not work out!
There is a mountain between you!
You must remove the mountain first.
Or dont you see it? I see it even from here!
---TheSeg on 4/16/09


Natalie2, If you are saying that all Catholics are baptized as such and therefore all are saved, you are in error. Catholicism may come to all those baptized into the church by ritual, however, salvation only comes by grace through faith. They are not one in the same. Thus my statement about knowing some Catholics who are saved and others who are not. If our religion could save us, why did Christ die? He died so that all who believe (trust in, adhere to, and rely upon) Him could inherit eternal life. That's why many Christians talk about Christianity being foremost a relationship with Christ rather than a religion or denomination. I hope I clarified what I meant.
---Shirley on 4/16/09


Katavasia,

What do you mean by the phrase "Living In Sin"?
---Sag on 4/16/09


What is a "TRUE CATHOLIC CHRISTIAN ANGLICAN OR PROTESTANT OR BAPTIST"what determines His validity to the word of TRUE.Is it a visible sign, or frequenting his church? If so I should like to know?Assuming sin is the determining factor assigned to one w/o sin would prove the word of God Romans3:23 incorrect.We toss about the word saved like a ping pong Ball.TRUTH IS no one knows except God and onesself."This above all to thine own self be true" Love the lord Your God with your whole heart and soul and your neighbour as yourself. GOD WATCHES ALL,and to each He gives His measure.
---MIC on 4/16/09


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katavasia...Just how many on these blogs have been divorced and remarried several times? I guess I have been missing something.
---KarenD on 4/16/09


Alan, Catholic Baptism makes a person a Catholic but it's up to the individual if he wants to remain a true Catholic by living a good, law abiding person.

He can be a "true" Catholic but not a good Catholic.
---Paul2 on 4/16/09


** Living in sin and not thinking anything of it?**

Pop-evangelicals NEVER live in sin and think nothing of it, even if they have been divorced and remarried several times.

Especially not the ones on these blogs.

And don't forget such pop-evangelicals as Jimmy Swaggart, Earl Paulk, Robert Tilton...... and the list goes on....

They never lived in sin and thought nothing of it either, did they?
---katavasia on 4/16/09


Natalie ... Does getting "baptised" make you a true Catholic?

What if the person goes along with the ceremony just to fit in with (say) what his parents want, without believing a word of it?

In that case I would say he is not a true or "saved" Catholic.

Can the ceremony save him?

In the same way, a Protestant who "says the sinner's prayer" or attends church or even gfives a testimony, is necessarily saved, if he does not mean it.

Both are nominal ... outwardly, Catholic or Protestant Christian, but not inwardly.
---alan8566_of_UK on 4/15/09


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I know Catholics that are saved and others who are not---Shirley

Impossible. Every Catholic has to baptized to be a Catholic.
Baptism is our form of Salvation.
So any Catholic to say he is Catholic has to had been baptized.
The Catholic has a symbol mark of Salvation on their soul.
That doesn't mean a Saved Catholic can't reject his Salvation and take the mark with him to hell.

Thats why we all nonpracticing Catholics as 'fallen Catholic' They includes anyone joining any Protestant Churches.
They are called fallen Catholic attending a Baptist Church.
Once a Catholic always a Catholic.

No such thing as an unbaptized Catholic.

Like a single married person.
Either they are married or not.
---Natalie2 on 4/15/09


**
Are they going to church every Sunday? receiving communion everytime you go? going to confession once or twice a month? Following the rules of man such as lent, praying to Mary? Living in sin and not thinking anything of it? **

How about rules of men such as sinner's prayers, invitation hymns, altar calls, and revivals?

What do you think of those, donna?
---katavasia on 4/14/09


I know how you feel..but feelings are sometimes deceitful...try to give time to yourself and God. Talk it over with God, read His word, find direction for yourself. You have read and heard advices but if you are still uneasy and cant find peace. Seriously, I suggest you fast and pray for it.Its your life but God cares for you so much. Surely God has plans and purpose..dont give in to temptation and dont compromise or else you will surely suffer the consequences and regret what you have decided. Remember marriage is a lifetime commitment. Godbless you..
---dorothy on 4/14/09


How saved is HE? I know Catholics that are saved and others who are not, just like some Baptists, Methodists, Pentecostals, etc. The relationship cannot work if you both are not in agreement as to the foundation of your faith. It's up to you to ask him and explain to him what it really means to you to be saved and then go from there.
---Shirley on 4/14/09


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How saved are you? Because it sounds like you're ready to compromise the Word of God already. Do you know the bible and what it says about being unequally yoked?

Just by you saying he strongly believes in Catholic values, what values are they?

Are they going to church every Sunday? receiving communion everytime you go? going to confession once or twice a month? Following the rules of man such as lent, praying to Mary? Living in sin and not thinking anything of it?

Do you or he have the Baptism of the Holy Spirit? Which gifts of the Spirit does he have? Which do you have? Do you follow the Beautitudes to the tee? Do you worship God in Spirit and in Truth? I do not believe your relationship will work with this man.
---donna8365 on 4/14/09


Nandipa, keep your relationship and attend some of the functions of the RCC and eventually, you'll find the truth.

Hold on to that guy.
---Paul2 on 4/14/09


Be very careful about someone you "just met" making any decisions for you.
---SusieB on 4/14/09


NANDIPA:-To start a relationship with a serious impediment such this, is fraught with warning signs of DANGER.Here again is choice.DESIRE to do what is right Maintain your High standard of Morals,and do not be swayed by your judgement, seek the Guidance of both YOUR PASTOR and HIS PRIEST.Pray for enlightement and remember once the marriage is completed it "cannot" be dissolved."What God hath joined together let NO man put
a sunder.As you are now 2 in one flesh"
---MIC on 4/14/09


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Nandipa, if he truly strongly believes in the 'Catholic values', he wouldn't suggest that one of you move into the other's Church.

By the way, he is Saved as well. The method of Salvation is the only differences.
He is Saved by Baptism and you (I am guessing) by the Sinner's prayer.

He isn't sincere in his Catholic faith as you think. According to your statement he might be a weak Catholic, which suggest you might be able to convince him into your Church.

No strong Catholic would even hint of leaving his faith.

He would leave you instead.
---Natalie2 on 4/14/09


Someone said," guard well your affections for they affect all the rest of your life."

There is a saying which says, "a hint to the wise is sufficient"
---mima on 4/14/09


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