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Are Lawyers And Lawsuits OK

After reading an article in my newspaper, I'd like to hear other opinions on this. When is it O.K. for a Christian to use legal action? What about a Church or Ministry?

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 ---Augie on 4/21/09
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Rarely. It depends on the circumstances. Money is not a good reason.
---Betty on 4/24/09


Might I assume the question is prompted more by concern with "civil actions" than with "criminal actions"? That being clarified, I think... my gut tells me most people would likely conclude a civil suit would be just fine and dandy--that is, if they don't lose.

As for Churches or Ministries? I'm sure there wouldn't be any valid reason to charge them with anything. After all: ain't they all working for God?

If ya stick with followin' the Bible, though, it'd be best to know them "brothers" well. Were you faced with legal proceedings (by OR against you), it could prove detrimental to your faith.

1Pe 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lords sake:...
---BruceB on 4/23/09


Regarding the minister who was dismissed from his position as pastor, it appears as if he thought he was going to have a hard time finding another pastoral position and sued the church. There are thousands of open positions, but there was something about him that was going to keep him from getting one of them. Or maybe he just thought it would be easier to just sue the church instead of looking for another position. This is a prime example of a man-called preacher instead of a God-called preacher.
---SusieB on 4/23/09


Donna66, I don't attend that church so I don't know all the details.
It was the talk of the town for some time, and a friend of mine who does attend said they are in a poor financial situation.
---1st_cliff on 4/23/09


Yes.

An example of this would be the child of Levi Johnston and Bristol Palin. They might be going to court over visitation rights. And probably child support too.

When people don't "live up to", or "accept", the responsibility for their own actions, and any resulting children, courts of law are needed to "lay down the rules" for those folks.

It would be nice if there was no need for courts of law. However, they are necessary in this sinful, fallen world.
---Sag on 4/23/09




Oh, what a good question! There may be times when God will allow this. However, it must be God, because God must HELP!
---catherine on 4/23/09


Too many cases to list.

Answer is obvious. Lawsuits are valid when laws are broken or contracts violated. Frivolous lawsuits shouldn't be tolerated.

I don't think Christians should "forgive" anyone that violates legal rights. Were would it end? If killed by a drunk driver, don't prosecute the drunk? If robbed the criminal doesn't go to jail?

For the pastor firing, if he didn't have a severance clause contract, lawsuit is unlawful. Nearly every employer I worked for hasn't provided severance pay. I was laid off 4 times and fired once. One employer was nice and gave me 6 months severance pay, but they didn't have to. The employee handbook said 8 weeks, and that was not a legal binding contract!
---obewan on 4/23/09


1st Cliff--

That's an interesting case. I take it Pentecostals call their own pastors? Did either sign a contract when he came on board?

If his suit was successful, that must have been the case. Just out of curiosity, I wonder what his obligations were under the contract.And what was theirs? Did they fire him without notice?
---Donna66 on 4/22/09


Augie....Call the Labor Board for your state. They are the one who would handle the non-payment of wages. They will take care of it quicker than you can imagine.
---SusieB on 4/22/09


I personally believe that more lawsuits will be coming soon against Christian Churches by special interest groups as a tactic to bankrupt Christianity in America. In my opinion, we will need to address these suits in court and protect God's assets. To answer your question, If being a good steward of what God has entrusted to me requires legal action, then so be it.
---TIMOTHY on 4/22/09




I live in a city (75,000) where one of the larger Pentecostal churches told their pastor that his services were no longer needed!
He sued the congregation for $80,000. (two years salary) and wrongful dismissal.

If it wasn'tfor the day care center the church would be bankrupt!
(true story)
---1st_cliff on 4/22/09


According to 1 Cor.6 we are not to take our brethren to law but are to have the church make decisions. This is because the least esteemed in the church has better judgement than any heathen. Scripturally I can find no instruction to take anyone to law. But I can find plenty that says to forgive.
---john on 4/22/09


Donna,

The situation involved an established church giving resources to new church with the condition that the new church remain in the same denomination.

Eventually, the new church members decided to << break >> away and become an "independent" church. Just like when children decide to leave their parent's home. Many of us are guilty of that.

Breach of contract? For a church, I wouldn't think so, but there might be a problem here. I think that the churches should just drop the silly issue, but that is my opinion.
---Augie on 4/21/09


Donna,

I worked for an employer who didn't pay me and several other employees. I'm talking to a lawyer about getting our over-due paychecks.

Our former employer is an alcoholic who always has money to fund his drinking parties, but none for paying his employees. Poor management at its worst.
---Augie on 4/21/09


When God says it's okay. ALWAYS seek Him FIRST and ask Him, "Lord is it okay if I seek legal counsel on this?"

He is our ultimate counsellor, but sometimes we do need to take legal action, but what would be some situations?

The only time I took legal action is when I filed for divorce. I didn't even have my ex-husband arrested for Domestic Violence, I choose not to press charges.

Why would a church or ministry need to seek legal action? If they are being sued for what? or why would they want to sue someone? For what? I don't get it.
---donna8365 on 4/21/09


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