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Theology Beliefs Are Formed

Why, and to what extent, are your theological beliefs formed by: a.) The Bible, b.) Spiritual revelation, c.) What I've been taught by other people, d.) What I've read in books other than the Bible, e.) Something different than the above.

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"If you read what i said you would see that i did not imply what you are implying at all."
---francis on 8/16/10
I did read what you said. That is why I replied like I did. I have also read some of your other statements.
---Elder on 8/17/10


jerry
I'm referring to remnant or the continuance from The Early Church according to Acts 2 v's 37 - 41( still alive & well today ) the yr's gone by aft the roman leaders with nero & the crusades killed off the Saints of The Early Church ( the dark ages ) so the False Man - made trin rcc could start with their corrupt relig org.
---Lawrence on 8/17/10


Lawrence: I don't think I get your point. If you're looking for the definition of the Remnant Church, you'll find it in Revelation.

Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the REMNANT of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Rev 19:10 ... for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

Thus, the remnant church will keep ALL Ten Commandments and will have a prophet.
---jerry6593 on 8/17/10


Trav, My faith is in Christ, and not some nut who comes on line still preaching false doctrines.
---Bob on 8/15/10

Your faith is Christ, good.

I'm glad to be a nut for truth. And I can provide prophets,apostles,Jesus's word to show "they" were not false.

You cannot or you would have produced multiple scriptures rebuking me .

Which I would/will accept....fully....and be "eternally", thankful that Bob cared enough about me to hurt my feelings to the benefit/healing of my soul.
Titus 1:13
This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith,
Titus 2:15
These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
.
---Trav on 8/16/10


No two witnesses are needed when it comes to Christ. ---Bob on 8/16/10

I'm sorry your offending me now. You've become me! I started it asking for scripture. You didn't give any,that is O.K.

If Christ didn't need witnesses...there would have been no prophecy's to fill. We both know he could have come with Ten legions of Angels....but, the was searching for Sheep. Lost Sheep.
He found plenty while he was here, and sent 12 representing apostles looking too.
Below is witness in scripture to bear out "Witnesses"...the point here.
Matt 15:24
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Matthew 10:6
But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
---Trav on 8/16/10




I was raised catholic until i was about 13, saw the difference between RCC and SDA, studied the bible, also attended other protestant churches, got baptized 5-6 years later. I aquired the EGW books onout 3 years ago, many years after my baptism. They had no influence on my studies.

Are you saying that God changes his doctrine with every dispensation?
Or his methods? What exactly about God changed as the dispensations came and went?
---francis on 8/16/10


Francis on 8/8/10 you said you studied the Bible only for yourself. Yet you said you were in the RCC seeking to become a priest. Then you say you studied Ellen Whites books. I hardly call that the Bible only.
You are right God does not change neither do His doctrines/teachings. Dispensations do change and, plus, man/women pervert what God has said.
---Elder on 8/15/10

If you read what i said you would see that i did not imply what you are implying at all.
---francis on 8/16/10


Trav, you said for me,
to be a man of rebuke done properly/scripturally I'll repent. Use scripture with witness....if you care anything about me at all."
Those same words were ask of Jesus by the Jews who followed the law, and Jesus answered them and said:
"It is also written in your law that the testimony of two men is true, I am One who bears witness of Myself, and the Father who sent Me bears witness of Me"
No two witnesses are needed when it comes to Christ. We are not under the law but under Grace for all things were fulfilled in Christ. You are still following the law for confirmation, I follow Christ.
---Bob on 8/16/10


Jerry

Peter & the others were Apostles.

The Man - made pope - hood beginning with the trin rcc the mother apostate church came from here 2nd.Cor.11 v's 14 - 15 then Are here Rev.17 v's 4 - 7.
The only connection that the rcc had with The Early Church is, & that was HATE, or the devil with the roman leaders nero & the crusades would not have killed of the Early Church Saints.

Remnant of The Early Church Acts 2 v's 37 - 41 still lives today for Jesus name & the Gospel Truth sake.
---Lawrence on 8/16/10


Trav, I'm not frighten by Scripture, for it is a joy to me, nor frightened by you. You are just another sinful person who make terrible remarks to others in the name of God. I see that all the time from a few here who call themselves Christians. You have nothing I want or need. You say you were gerto, you should have stayed gerto. My faith is in Christ, and not some nut who comes on line still preaching false doctrines.
---Bob on 8/15/10




Francis on 8/8/10 you said you studied the Bible only for yourself. Yet you said you were in the RCC seeking to become a priest. Then you say you studied Ellen Whites books. I hardly call that the Bible only.
You are right God does not change neither do His doctrines/teachings. Dispensations do change and, plus, man/women pervert what God has said.
---Elder on 8/15/10


mima: Do you agree with the RCC that Peter was the first Pope? Do you agree that the RCC has the power to change God's Commandments?
---jerry6593 on 8/15/10


///But God on the other hand, who is all Truth, can be agreed upon completely and even if a person weren't to agree, we know who has the correct view, that is the One True God.
---micha9344 on 8/13/10///

Blessing...
another-Amen.
---char on 8/13/10


I always check with scriptures on what people say. If it doesn't line up I donot believe in it. I have faith in God , I use the bible as a guide/compass in my life.
I donot rest on man made theology,but rely on God.
---candice on 8/13/10


One time I was wanting to study theology in my theology book. I found the Words were just sitting there, staring back at me. Hallelujah, Thank You Jesus. So, I put down my book reluctantly and kinda stomped to my bed. Lay down....I asked God, "Don't You want me studying theology"? He said, "I want you to spend some time with Me"! Couple days later, I once again opened my T book, and had a great time. Got a lot out of it. The moral to this story is: I simply can not study unless the anointing is in and on it. Hallelujah Thank You, Jesus. Ahhh.
---catherine on 8/13/10


Bob, thank you for your remarks. :-)
---ger.toshav on 8/12/10

Didn't have space, to thank you Bob for speaking for gerto above. Bob's a little frightened by opposing scripture, a devotee/apostle perhaps of the 4th son/ethnos of Israel. You kept him untainted by replying to me...by talmudic tradition.
I was taught about the chosen people by sincerely faithful denom's. I was gerto, until the witnesses of scripture....testified. Matt 15:24 is the mission of Christ. The Lost Sheep are the Nth House. The Chosen of Israel...is All Israel.
Heb 8:8/Eze 37 and hundreds of other verses. Thousands of mentions, called by GOD over 136 specific to Israel names.
Israel...ruling with EL/GOD pretty well sums it though.
---Trav on 8/13/10


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We agree where we agree and disagree where we disagree.
Just because a person agrees in one area does not mean that person agrees with all the other person's ways, doctrines, views, etc.
To make a general statement such as 'if you agree with him here, it means you must agree with him everywhere' is absurd, at least at a human level.
But God on the other hand, who is all Truth, can be agreed upon completely and even if a person weren't to agree, we know who has the correct view, that is the One True God.
---micha9344 on 8/13/10


Bob, thank you for your remarks. :-)
---ger.toshav on 8/12/10
Trav, I was not speaking to you, for my question was for a Christian. ---Bob on 8/12/10

It is true, Char has that blessing of patience. I admit my my lack of. I admit my intolerance of false teachers,preachers,prophets and milk babie's. I work, and try to fit in 125 words...witnesses in scripture. Some rejoice at seeing these for the first time. I've noticed over the years that scripture either enlightens or confuses. Stating the relationship in progress.
When enlightened by GOD's scriptures...the joy is overwhelming.
I am thankful I'm free in truth from the harness of man's doctrine. I encourage you to gather your witnesses...for the same.
---Trav on 8/13/10


//Char,I think you are wrong supporting his answers to others. Do you believe his conduct to others is right? I sure hope not.
---Bob on 8/12/10//
Bob and Trav-Blessings...
Like a child-I study scripture.
I support what I understand as truth pertaining to the[Word].Flesh is tempted if an agreement can't be reached-However-the mind of Christ in one accord produces fruit.The Spirit-being Love-Must Begin and Remain.
We can be humbled-always-by this love.
Not one of us knows all truth-myself included.Not one-perfect-yet-again-the love of God is greater.He states all souls are His-the Love-through Him-will have to prevail...Perhaps we can touch in agreement on this--even if its only by faith-at first.
Bless you both.
---char on 8/13/10


Bob, thank you for your remarks. :-)
---ger.toshav on 8/12/10


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Trav, I was not speaking to you, for my question was for a Christian. You are no one I would like to discuss things about Christ with. I was speaking to a sister in Christ. Someone that has given very good answers concerning Christ. You have given nothing concerning Christ and what His done for you and His Church. Your views concern Israel only and not the Church of Christ, and your terrible remarks go to others who do not agree with your view. When you receive the love of Christ then maybe we can talk about Christ.
---Bob on 8/12/10


Char, why do you support the views and posts of Trav? You answer really good, and he answers with a mean spirit to almost everyone. I think you are wrong supporting his answers to others.---Bob on 8/12/10

Have something specific in mind Bob?
Char seeks truth through scripture, rather than me. She prays for and blessed my searching. Whether Bob does or not.
Mean? Scripture comes against those who would mislead,distort or shave the sheep, instead of save the sheep.

Matthew 10:34
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Luke 2:35
(Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.
---Trav on 8/12/10


Char, ...I think you are wrong supporting his answers to others. Do you believe his conduct to others is right? I sure hope not.
---Bob on 8/12/10

Bob,
I've read through your past post. We have things in common. Like booting the demo's out. Be a man of rebuke, done properly/scripturally I'll repent. Use scripture with witness....if you care anything about me at all.
You see, the thing....one can baby coddle false teachings or let scripture cut right to the insanity.
Proverbs 9:8
Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.
Psalm 31:6
I have hated them that regard lying vanities: but I trust in the LORD.
---Trav on 8/12/10


Char, why do you support the views and posts of Trav? You answer really good, and he answers with a mean spirit to almost everyone. I think you are wrong supporting his answers to others. Do you believe his conduct to others is right? I sure hope not.
---Bob on 8/12/10


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I have never studied theology.

But I have learned the HARD WAY how very important it is to study scripture in the true context which it is written. This includes asking and answering the questions WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, WHY, AND TO WHOM.

I will confess there was a time in my life when I was very "HARD HEADED and STUBBORN. I wanted everything to be how I wanted them to be

TO THIS VERY DAY, I AM THANKFUL TO GOD THAT I DID LEARN AND I HAVE CHANGED MY WAYS.

Yes, there are things written in scripture which hurts, I do not like,- and I wish was not written. But I do not change what is written to suit myself or to say what I want it to say.
---Rob on 8/12/10


\I've studied a little bit theology.\\

And how very little it has been.
---Cluny on 8/10/10

Hard to remember when you were in ignorance Cooney? Like last week maybe? ha. The thing holding my tongue with some searching sheep is the millstone.

Luke 17:2
It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
---Trav on 8/11/10


How are you doing Cuny! Hold on, I will learn more.
---catherine on 8/10/10


\\I've studied a little bit theology.\\

And how very little it has been.
---Cluny on 8/10/10


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Bless you Trav.
We must keep our eyes on the seed.
---char on 8/9/10

Thanks, for the blessing. Seed can be a study of its own. A good servant of the garden,always considering before you reply. I've found you witnessed in everlasting scripture,char.
Fertile ground for starting a garden is in Matt 15:25.
Genesis 9:9
And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you,
Genesis 17:7
And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.
Psalm 102:28
The children of thy servants shall continue, and their seed shall be established before thee.
---Trav on 8/10/10


I've studied a little bit theology. I would have to go with A and B. The Bible is full of theology, and spiritual revelation....Please note: Everything which is written in your theology books you may not agree with. This is your prerogative. And mine. Thank You Jesus+.
---catherine on 8/10/10


Bless you Trav.

Praise Yehovah who Proves His Word-by the Works done in Flesh and confirms it is eternal-Truth-In Spriit.
Holy Spirit with us Now.

We must keep our eyes on the seed.
---char on 8/9/10


The Parable of the Ten Virgins, 5 foolish, miss out on the wedding feast. 50/50

Luke 17:34-36
two men sharing sleeping accomodations... 1/2 taken.
two women...grinding mill...1/2 taken.
two men working the fields...1/2 taken.

Luke 17:15-18 And one [out of 10]of them, when he saw that he was healed, turned back, and with a loud voice glorified God, And fell down on his face at his feet, giving him thanks: and he was a Samaritan. And Jesus answering said, Were there not ten cleansed? but where are the nine? There are not found that returned to give glory to God, save this stranger.

Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not, and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
---aka on 8/9/10


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aka-Amen.///whole Revelation of Jesus Christ, which is the Bible.///

The Word of Elohim sent to His children-(souls He created)-to confess His Word out of our Mouths---Amen.
This is complete truth of our clay state to the Potter-In-covenant. Father(Yehovah) to the (Son)body of Christ----Amen.
The Whole point of Yehovah Word-becoming Flesh-Proving-acted upon-and Now confirming His Word spoken out from the Beginning-(Holy Spirit)---Amen.

Blessing to you...
---char on 8/9/10


The adversary is clever-He works on dividing the brethern and distracting the attention from the truth-but Yehovah Word is complete forever.
---char on 8/9/10

Thanks Char, for an attempt. Sometimes the adversary's are masked as brothers. They were found even in Christ day and written of afterwards. Attempting to teach one sided doctrines unwitnessed by the O.T. prophets or fathers. While they cannot be converted, the sheep can be made aware, by scripture not to fall into these pits.
All were not intended to understand.
Matthew 13:13
Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not, and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
---Trav on 8/9/10


Continued blessing your way brother.
The adversary is clever-He works on dividing the brethern and distracting the attention from the truth-but Yehovah Word is complete forever.
This is why we say-
Amen.
---char on 8/9/10


amen, char

//"The adversary has another word."//

you cannot rebel without words. you cannot accuse without words. you cannot deceive with twisting words. every time the Word is misused, manipulated, and man-handled, the adversary has spoken. plus, cults and the occult have many more volumes of their belief than the whole Revelation of Jesus Christ, which is the Bible.

//Only by following the Word of God from the Beginning can save us from deception to the End//

The gate is narrow

---aka on 8/9/10


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Char, thanks, I thought you were speaking to me.
I agree with what you said about the prophets, with the exception of two things, first,
"The adversary has another word."
I do not know of any word that the adversary has or that has been written. And second,
" Only by following the Word of God from the Beginning can save us from deception to the End"
The Elect of God when they come to Christ are never deceived. You said only following the word of God can save us from deception, but many follow the word and misinterpret the word. And also many others might have different believes because they have yet to receive revelation from the Spirit to what God has to say to them at that point in time.
---MarkV. on 8/8/10


Elder on 8/8/10

No BIBLE only.

My studies were guided by the fact thet God says he is an unchanging God.
and these verses was very important to me:

Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Hebrews 13:9 Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines.

From this verse i understood that the DOCTRINES would NOT change yesterday today or for ever.

Romans 3:3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?

Romans 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar,

MEN LIE God does not change.

I was not a member of any church at that time. I also visited many other churches during that time.
---FRANCIS on 8/8/10


Mima

Me personaly, i have four EGW books. Patriachs and prophets, prophets and kings, the great controversy, and steps to christ. I have not found any areas in those writing which are in conflict with the bible.

Her writing are usually filled with bible veres and do point back to the bible.

Steps to christ is universal christainity and most pastors of all denominations do use it.

James Dobson has admitted that he uses her books as reference material for his counciling.

When the AMA recommended smoking for lung disease she was the first to say it caused cancer.

Her critics are those who have not read her ORIGINAL books.
---francis on 8/8/10


mima: Do you agree with the RCC that Peter was the first Pope? Do you agree that the RCC has the power to change God's Commandments?
---jerry6593 on 8/8/10


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"it took FIVE years studying the bible for myself, At age 20 I was convinced 100% that what the SDA church teaches is the exact same as the BIBLE teaches."
francis
Francis there is little doubt that you have been seeking. As to you studying the bible for yourself that is another matter. My guess is that you used books and courses provided by the SDA.
---Elder on 8/8/10


francis do you agree with this resolution by the SDA?

On February 7, 1887, the General Conference passed the following resolution -- "That we re-affirm our binding confidence in the Testimonies of Sister White to the Church, as the teaching of the Spirit of God." SDA Year Book for 1914, p. 253
---mima on 8/6/10


I was once a member of the RCC, probably on my way to the priesthood. When I was about 12 years I began to read the bible, I noticed that many of the things in the Bible were very different from the RCC teachings. I was not too bothered by that I did enjoy mass as well as my RCC beliefs.
I was later introduced to baptist and Pentecost teaching as a Roman Catholic, and did not find much merit in them.
At age 15 I met a SDA who began to tell me about the bible and the Unchanging God. I took FIVE years studying the bible for myself, as well as other religions and christian denominations, At age 20 I was convinced 100% that what the SDA church teaches is the exact same as the BIBLE teaches.
---francis on 8/6/10


Mark,
my post is not to you personally-it is what I see and understand to be truth.I agree and appreciate many things both you and Trav post.I have no question-just stated my understanding and a few scriptures for clarity.
When we follow the Words of God spoken By the prophets,the Word of God spoken out from the mouth of the Son(Word in Flesh) are witnessed and in agreement.
The Holy Spirit-(God with us-Now)Confirms His Word. For some the Ears are opened and Hear the Word of God(Faith resurrects it).
The adversary has another word. Only by following the Word of God from the Beginning can save us from deception to the End.
I think this may combine an agreement with what both you and Trav have stated.
---char on 8/6/10


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Theology-varies.
Thank God for His mercy and Grace. He will give us His Wisdom-if asked.He alone gets the Glory.
We are clay seeking the Potter-humanity trying to understand God.His truth produces fruit.
Phil 2
If[there be] therefore any consolation in Christ,if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any bowels and mercies,Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded,having the same love [being] of one accord,of one mind. [Let] nothing [be done] through strife or vainglory, but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.
Gal 5:22-26-But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
1Jn 1,2,3,4,5(all)
---char on 8/6/10


Char, I am not claiming the prophets were wrong. I am not claiming what they spoke was not from God. You decided to write three post concerning the prophets, sounds like you are addressing me, if you are, what is your question concerning the prophets and what Scripture do you have to support what Trav has said? If you have something for me, do not be afraid to ask me, I will kindly answer you.
---MarkV. on 8/5/10


To my understanding,
It's vital to know the Word of God spoken through the Prophets. This is following the Word of God from beginning to end.
It proceeded out of the Mouth of God in and out of the mouth of the prophets-witnessed and spoken through-Word in Flesh.Now confirmed by God Himself-Holy Spirit.(1 Cor 2)
Is 55:11 So shall My word be that goeth forth out of My mouth: it shall not return unto Me void...
Jn 1:1 and the Word became flesh...
Jn7:17 If any man will do His will,he shall know of the doctrine,whether it be of God, or [whether]I speak of Myself.-Jn 14:10

Heb 1:1 GOD Who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [His] son...
---char on 8/5/10


God Spoke out the End from the beginning.
He bears witness of Himself-
through the mouths of the prophet.Yeshua-Word in Flesh-then repeats these Words bearing witness to the The Word spoken out by the prophets. The Holy Spirit(God with us Now) confirms His Word spoken through the Prophets and out from the mouth of the Word in Flesh-Christ Jesus-Yeshua,Immanuel-God with us.
God-bears witness of Himself-through His Son and His Spirit-The Holy Spirit with us NOW.
---char on 8/5/10


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Trav, I do not need Old Testament prophets to understand Scripture, I need God the Holy Spirit to bring light to God's Word. You need witnesses, to make your case and twist what they say to make it. I do not need witnesses to make my case, I need the Help of the Spirit and the Word of God. The whole Word of God, not just the devorced Jews or the married ones as you do. You make a case for man, I make my case for the God. And here in is to your opinions, they go down the toilet.
---MarkV. on 8/5/10


AMEN Samuel 8/2/10.

I try to encourage people to follow the example which is found in Acts 17:11. What is so very sad is most people will not do this.
---Rob on 8/3/10

Rob,

The Bereans were not going on scripture only. They would listen to Paul talk about Jesus and then check scripture to see if those thing were true. Remember all they had was the OT, no where in the OT does it mention Jesus as the Messiah, so when Paul mention say Isaiah 53:7 they were now able to put the two together...
---Ruben on 8/3/10


Their theology is always different.... What about what God's intention is? What about what He wants to accomplish? ...---MarkV. on 8/3/10

Remarkable how you can write about other people the things that apply immediately and obviously to yourself.

You've never used one of GOD's O.Testament prophets for a witness to anything you try to establish as truth. Rarely a 2nd witness of any kind. But, you condemn everyone that doesn't believe your unwitnessed dialogues.
An example of no witnesses:
Mark 14:56
For many bare false witness against him, but their witness agreed not together.
---Trav on 8/3/10


God defines-His Word.
1 Cor 2

1Jn 2: 26
These [things] have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which [ye] have received of Him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you:
but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you,ye shall abide in Him.
---char on 8/3/10


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AMEN Samuel 8/2/10.

I try to encourage people to follow the example which is found in Acts 17:11. What is so very sad is most people will not do this.
---Rob on 8/3/10


For instance I have read commentaries from many different churches. Others which are not from my church I have found good truth in but also mistakes. I go back to the Bible to check on truth and what is said. All Scripture is inspired to teach. 2 Tim
---Samuel on 8/2/10


Samuel,

It does say all scripture is inspired to teach, but it "does" not say " only ", that is where the problem starts.

Passage 2 Timothy 2:2:

"And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also."

This is Tradition or handing on apostolic teaching...
---Ruben on 8/3/10


Lawrence, with respect to you, let me give my opinion, Just about everyone here has an agenda, and that agenda is not for God. It is to somehow please mens own believes, or denomination. Whenever you answer anyone, the one thing you say, is to speak against the Trinity. It is a theological bias you have and you make sure you mention it every time. It is a bias you fight for. Many SDA's answer for their bias of the Sabbath, RCC for their traditions even to compromise Scripture, Mormons for their believe Christ is not God, Jehovah witnesses for the same. Where I believe the fault is, is that it comes from a man-centered theology. What is good for man. Did you ever wonder why you do not center what you believe around God? For what is good for God.
---MarkV. on 8/3/10


Lawrence 2: If everyone started with God as the center of their theology, everyone would come to the same results in believes. But no, they start with man, and always leads to what man wants or what they believe or what they deserve, and never come to the same conclusion because everyone has different ideas on what they want. Their theology is always different. That is why there is so many denominations. What about what God's intention is? What about what He wants to accomplish? What He does for us all? What about God's rights? Everyone forgets about God that they have created a God that works for them, whenever they ask. Its all about man, what they want, need, and deserve.
---MarkV. on 8/3/10


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I believe my beliefs are 100% guided by the Bible - Samuel

So does everyone else. Even people who lead thousands to mass suicide. Im not suggesting your beliefs will do that though. LOL. Just sayin

I think we're all a bit guilty of taking the Pastors word as golden without researching it IN the word. 10 people can read the same verse and come away with 10 different interpretations. Yet theres only 1 Holy Ghost and 1 truth.

Im about to start a lot of research on what the Catholic church believed and why some people protested and left it. Yes, I was raised protestant.

Something however IS wrong with us. We can't even come to 1 truth amongst ourselves. Maybe thats a sign from the Lord.
---JackB on 8/2/10


"I cried to Yhwh with my voice, and he heard me. He said to me: Your sins are forgiven. And the reclined company began to say in themselves, Who stands this, who even forgives sins? Note, God my Yeshuah, I will trust and not fear: for Yh Yhwh, my strength and song, he also is become my salvation. For great your mercy toward me: and you have delivered my soul from the lowest hell. He drew me with gentle cords of a man, with bands of love: and he was to me as one who takes off the yoke on my neck, and he stooped and fed me. And the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me." Psalm 3:4 Luke 7:48,49+ Isaiah 12:2+ Psalm 86:13+ Hosea 11:4+ Gal.2:20.
---Eloy on 8/2/10


I believe my beliefs are 100% guided by the Bible. For all things I believe have to be in agreement with the Word of GOD.

I have been taught and have learned from many different sources. Including Spiritual revelation, teachings, and books about the bible.

For instance I have read commentaries from many different churches. Some which start off saying the Bible is false I have discarded. Others which are not from my church I have found good truth in but also mistakes. I go back to the Bible to check on truth and what is said. All Scripture is inspired to teach. 2 Tim
---Samuel on 8/2/10


People use theology & philosophy to use such to twist scriptures to say things that The Bible does Not say, such as the Man - made idea of the triune god head that came from here 2nd.Cor.11 v's 14 - 15. People that use philosophy & theology Are here, 2nd.Tim.3 v 7.
---Lawrence on 8/2/10


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It seems everyone here is missing a very important element in the equation of maturing in Christ - fellowship.

People, especially in these last days, need help from christian friends with maturing and growing and staying on the right path toward the Kingdom of God. Do an online KJV bible search for "one another," "each other," and "encourag" because living a christian live is a 24/7 lifestyle - not a once a week pep talk dished out by denominational "churches."

Also: Proverbs 18:24 and Proverbs 27:9
---Steveng on 5/6/09


**According to these verses, a Spirit filled Christian will be taught by the Spirit. You can learn from various sources, but make sure what you learn is in agreement with God's Word.
---Bob on 5/5/09***


Yes, these verses used here, Paul is talking to ALREADY spirit filled Christians about the Mysteries ...deeper things given to us. The Things God has prepared for us. But even a baby Christian does not have this full knowledge....that does not make him unsaved.

WE GROW in the Grace and Knowledge of Him to a mature man...AFTER we are saved. ((We speak Mysteries to those who are FULL GROWN)))

Paul is NOT talking about faith to believe the Gospel here by any means!!!
---kathr4453 on 5/6/09


This statement is very true."But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised." Just yesterday while out witnessing(we're offering a prize of $500 cash this year) a person asked me what was and going on? When I told him I was witness about Jesus Christ he said, witnessed to me, I did and when I told him I could prove he was saved if he would pray for his salvation he said to me, "I think you're full of it" to which I replied, that is exactly the answer I expect from a natural man!!!! And he simply drove away. A hardened heart is hard to deal with.
---mima on 5/6/09


1 Corinthians 2:12-14 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things freely given to us by God, which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words. But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. According to these verses, a Spirit filled Christian will be taught by the Spirit. You can learn from various sources, but make sure what you learn is in agreement with God's Word.
---Bob on 5/5/09


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amand6348: "... I have been having a hard time believing everything that comes from the Bible."

Yes, amand6348, it is difficult to be a christian during these last days. You have people and companies selling you things you don't need with the money you don't have. Man also seems to have all the answers to all of man's problems. If you're tired, they have pills to keep you awake. If you're awake, they have pills to make you sleep. You need to remember that medical advancements and technology has changed a lot for the past fifty years, but people have not changed. People have been the same since God created Adam and Eve. The only change people have gone through is having lost their self-control and their love for one another.
---Steveng on 5/5/09


My beliefs are formed by many things. Things that I discover, things that I think I know, etc. Some of it comes from the Bible. I will admit that lately I have been having a hard time believing everything that comes from the Bible.
---amand6348 on 5/5/09


Teaching comes first because without knowledge how do we know that we are sinners, about Jesus and the Kingdom of God? The aposles were told to go out into the world and teach what Christ taught and to baptise. The scriptures is our schoolmaster, the bible says, and teaches us that we are sinners which then brings us to Jesus. Our faith comes after our teachings and are then no longer under the schoolmaster. We are guided by our conscious of what we were taught and by the Holy Spirit to give us greater understanding.

But, of course, beware of false teachers and prophets. We are surely living in the end times where everyone has their own opinions as you read the posts on these blogs and the the internet. Use the bible as its own reference.
---Steveng on 5/4/09


Isaiah 28:9
Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? .....

Matthew 7:28
And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:

Romans 6:17
But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

Delivered by Who?
2 John 1:9
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

Theology is man-made religion...

Doctrine however is taught by Christ Himself...as we GROW in the Grace and knowledge of HIM!!!
---kathr4453 on 5/4/09


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Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
---jerry6593 on 5/2/09


How can we know expect to know Jesus, God, or the Holy Spirit if we never read what they have already said to us?

I always question what other people write, say, or teach. I always doubt spiritual revelation when declared as such. Give me the Scriptures and I will look it up. Memorization is the way to hide it in your heart.

The only way we can learn anything from the Scriptures is being taught by the Holy Spirit. Ask for Him to teach you when you open the Scriptures to study.
---Mark_Eaton on 4/29/09


I'd say yes to a) - e). Very much the Bible, but maybe especially the realizations I get as I read or think later about the Bible. One thing that can be impressed on me is I need to be ready to hold to what I get, no matter what other people might think of me believing what I have learned. And, as I deal more with being submissive and personal with God and caring about all other people, my beliefs and understanding have more and more to do with the *love* meaning and application of scriptures and my beliefs, and not just explanations and splitting hairs about details of beliefs.
---Bill_bila5659 on 4/29/09


I had no good Christian role models and I really knew nothing about God until I was well into College. For that reason my views of Theology slowly developed during my adult years and probably were influenced by all of your choices above. Through those early adult years I experienced some very good mentors and unfortunately some very poor ones. It is simply by the Grace of God that I emerged relatively well grounded given some of my strange experiences that I encountered. So to answer your question, I believe that the Holy Spirit was probably the greatest architect of my Theological base.
---TIMOTHY on 4/29/09


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Part #2
At University I studied old testament and New Testament. I had a desire to be saved but was concerned about my own personal sins. In a revival the Holy Spirit fell on me and I accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as my personal savior. Now 20 years goes by, I know I am saved, but I have not actually done anything like witnessing. And suddenly I realize that witnessing was my calling and I have been witnessing ever since!!!
---mima on 4/29/09


Wonderful question!!!
I first heard of the Lord Jesus Christ from my mother. As a young child I remember having many conversations with her about Jesus. And later about the age of 10 I begin to become interested in history. It is impossible to separate history and religions so I became interested in religions also. I remember praying as a child about childish things, and I'm aware that some of those prayers were answered.
At the age 13141516 and 17 I showed some signs of athletic ability. I was lightly recruited for professional baseball and ended up accepting a football scholarship to the University. While at the University I decided to do a little studying about religion. To be continued
---mima on 4/29/09


My theological beliefs? I'm not sure I have them. What are they? I was taught by the Holy Spirit as soon as I was Baptized in the Spirit one week after I was born again. I was taught by studying the word and doing word studies, cross reference scriptures, by anointed men of God since 1983. I've also been taught by others.

Remember truth isn't taught, it's revealed. So if I tell you something today, the Holy Spirit must bring a witness to your spirit in order for you to see the truth of what I'm saying UNLESS you are "walking in truth." as it says in 3rd John.
Jesus said to Peter, "Blessed are you Simon Barjona for flesh and blood didn't reveal this to you but my Father who is in heaven."
---donna8365 on 4/29/09


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