Lawrence - Numbers 18:24: But the tithes of the children of Israel, which they offer as an heave offering unto the LORD, I have given to the Levites to inherit: therefore I have said unto them, Among the children of Israel they shall have no inheritance.
We must follow the scriptures. Show me where God changed that command. I can't show you that God did if the scripture isn't there.
God gave specific instructions, not general instructions. You either follow God's instructions or you don't. But don't tell me you are obeying God's commands when you change His instructions.
---Gary on 7/22/09|
Gary, where you said,show me in scripture where God gave. You show me in scripture where God didn't.
---Lawrence on 7/21/09|
Lawrence - and keep in mind, God only claimed the Levitical tithe to be His, and it ended at the cross. Furthermore, since God said that tithe was His, and He gave it to the Levites, what right does anyone have go give that what belongs to God to anyone other than who God said to take it to? Taking God's tithe to the church is a direct sin against God. Show me in the scriptures where God gave the Christian Church permission to accept His tithe. The New Testament teaches GIVING FROM THE HEART, NOT UNDER COMPULSION. Tithing was to support the Levitical priesthood. Read Hebrews chapters 7-10 and you will see there is NO tithing under the priesthood of Jesus.
---Gary on 7/10/09|
In Matt 22, about the coin. Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesars (taxes), render unto God the things that are God's (Tithes & Offerings even a portion of your time).
---Lawrence on 7/8/09|
First the tithe wasn't$ it was cattle and vegg and produce....
---laverne on 5/27/09
Yes! Another person who knows the truth that tithes were always food.
However, today I will concede that money is used to help the ministry.
When we had our family strawberry farm, we grew about 40,000 quarts of large Midway strawberries every summer. We used to take them to the pastor of our church...I mean a LOT too..we would give him something like 100 quarts...we saw it as being "like" a tithe, but what on earth would he ever do with 4,000 quarts of strawberries? LOL
---obewan on 5/28/09|
First the tithe wasn't$ it was cattle and vegg and produce and it was used 4 those who was n need widows orphens and even the one who gave the tithe. Ps preacherman be blessed
---laverne on 5/27/09|
Don't know of any churches I've belonged to that doesn't provide a financial report. Most have done this on a monthly bases. If you are in a church that doesn't do this, you may want to consider leaving this church. If you can't trust them with your tithe, how can you trust them with your spiritual life? I'm a firm beliver that you should tithe at the church you attend, again, if you can't trust them with your money, how can you trust them for a correct spiritual input?
---wivv on 5/20/09|
I give to my church not out of law but out of love. I love my church home and am happy to give it money when I can. If I am willing to trust the Church with my family then I am also willing to trust the church with my finances. However if you don't trust your church with either, then leave.
---TIMOTHY on 5/18/09|
Norma...How many people county the tithes and offerings?
---SusieB on 5/18/09|
Our church is Non-Denominational and as a result self supporting. Every quarter we have a Congregational Meeting and treasuers report. He has to account for every penny that comes in and goes out. There are no miscellaneous on the report. Every so often the books do need to audited.
---Norma on 5/18/09|
Does your church have an annual congregational meeting with a detailed financial report. Does your church have audited financial statements by an AICPA firm or other independent auditors.
All belongs to God but you are God's custodian of the resources you manage in God's behalf. And God want you to be a good manager for what he has given you.
If you contribute independent ministries besides your church use tools such as Ministry Watch [They track about 500 nation and international ministry programs] and avoid contributing to programs that don't provide audited financial reports, have poor transparency ratings or excessive over head.
There are a number of good stewardship tools available on the internet use them.
---Phil_the_Elder on 5/17/09|
I still think it's important to feed the poor. Some day we might be poor. Would we want someone giving us money for things we need and then watching over us like a Communist government? I bet poor people would love to eat something else besides canned goods for a change...the thought is nice, just saying.
---amand6348 on 5/17/09|
Yes, if you are a good steward you should know what your money or gifts is going to and what is being done with it. I wouldn't just send it somewhere and hope for the best. There are plenty of needs right in our own areas that we can personally give to that we can keep an eye on.
---john on 5/16/09|
It seems that we are so concerned about denominations, and giving money and services to the Pastor that there is a cover on the real problem. That problem is hurt. We have been hurt by those who call themselves Christ like people, the Church. I feel that the church, as a whole, should apoligize to each person that has been hurt whether inside or outside of it's walls. This will allow those who are hurt to forgive the Church and to get forgiveness from God. Jesus did not come here to teach doctrine but to call sinners to repentance. He was all about love and the Church is filled with people just like us, looking for the right way and hoping for a love break through.
---Al on 5/16/09|
Nowhere does the New Testament say directly that we are to tithe. Jesus said you "ought" to have done. He did not say we still should. But we have "And not only as we had hoped, but they first gave themselves to the Lord, and then to us by the will of God." (1 Corinthians 8:5) So, God did not have them give just money. He had them "first" give themselves to the Lord, and then He had them give themselves to Paul and others who God approved as their leaders. So, this is first, that we find out who God has approved, for us to give ourselves to these leaders.
And then, "Obey those who rule over you . . . . " (Hebrews 13:17) Obeying in His love and peace will make this work.
---Bill_bila5659 on 5/16/09|
Denominational "churches" (having their own traditions, ways of living, and interpretations of the bible) are a product of Satan and every christian has been lied to to believe a person must join a church to be saved.
Christians bicker about whose denomination is better saying "you must join a church." A newly born christian would definately be confused about which church is the true church. Chrisitans even bicker among the same denomination say, "our church is better," "we have a better pastor," "we have better entertainment," etc.
Christ is not returning to join with (marry) a building, a denimination or a non-propfit corporation, he's returning for his people.
---Steveng on 5/15/09|
Living a christian life is a 24/7 lifestyle (especially during these end times) - not a once a week pep talk dished out by denominational "churches." Christian must meet daily to keep from straying from the path toward the Kingdom of God. Christians fill up every minute of every day with computers, TVs, ipods, school, family, friends, cell phones, work, "church," entertainment, etc. that they don't have time to develop a one-to-one relationship with God (we surely need the Sabbath). They have lost their ability to love according to the two commandments Jesus spoke of. They know that they must love, but don't know HOW. Do an online KJV bible search for "one another," "each other," and "encourag."
---Steveng on 5/15/09|
A good steward first requires you to realize it's not your money...
The earth is the LORD's, and the fulness thereof, the world, and they that dwell therein. Psalm 24:1
---Pharisee on 5/15/09|
When you eat you pay at the restaurant you eat at. Forsake not the assembly as the time draws near.
Mal 3:10 Bring all the tithe into the storehouse, so that there may be food in My house. And test Me now with this, says Jehovah of Hosts, to see if I will not open the windows of Heaven for you, and pour out a blessing for you, until there is not enough room. Only a pastor from my church was there when I wake up in the Emergency Room.
Put it in the mail and see who is in your room in your time of need. and the Levites shall bring up the tithe of the tithes to the house of our God.
---Don on 5/15/09|
obewan....I do not believe in any of the false prosperity gospel cult teachers. This has nothing to do with their teachings. This has to do with providing your 10% tithe to the local church for support of the pastor and other needs in the local congregation. We attend a very poor church where the pastor lives in a little house next door which isn't fancy. He and his wife are full-time ministers. We also believe in giving free-will offerings whenever a missionary or evangelist holds a service which is above the tithe to the local church. We don't watch TBN or any of that junk as the Lord is coming back soon and we want to be ready!
---SusieB on 5/15/09|
One way to make sure a church uses the money properly is to earmark the checks or offering envelope to projects that you feel need support. I do this on charity and missions projects.
The Old Testament "tithe" law required 1/3 of the tithe go to support the poor, widows, and disabled. My church only gives 10% of the tithes to this. I make a point of making sure at least 1/3 of my gifts go to the "poor tithe".
And I have never seen ANYWHERE in scripture where it is written "offerings" are above 10%. That is "prosperity gospel" cult teaching. My read is that everything since the NT is an offering. Tithes are OT and were "food".
---obewan on 5/15/09|
Why pay a tithing, thats apart of the Torah, yet so called christains say the Torah is nailed to the cross. How hypicritical of the church. I believe in tithing, but I believe in Torah also.
---wayne on 5/15/09|
Absolutely Yes!!!! It is important that you tithe to your local church first. Anything above that is offerings. If the pastor is living a luxurious lifestyle, that's a good sign your money is not being used with good stewardship. If the church has a food pantry and clothing distribution, that is a good sign the church is following Jesus.
---SusieB on 5/15/09|
If you don't trust your home church then don't give it any of God's money and leave. I would only attend a Church that I also trusted with God's money, otherwise why attend?
---TIMOTHY on 5/15/09|