True, I have seen a lot of drawing, that look great on the outside. But, when you look at the inside, the way it works, that when you see the problem with it. Sometimes its just a few lines on the drawing.
You know a sermon is right. Because even when you erase the lines, you till see them, when you run your fingers over them, you can even feel them.
This is why we need a new piece of paper.
So, let us wait for the new, before we rip up the old.
Anyway God bless all of you.
---TheSeg on 6/1/09|
TheSeq ... I remember considering making a cabinet following instructions in a DIY magazine.
I never started, 'cos I realised that it just would not work! The problem was they had designed the doors and hinges all wrong.
The error was so crucial that you could not even modify the plans to make it work
There must be a sermon in that story!
---alan8566_of_uk on 6/1/09|
Forgive me, but, I know people who read books on building cabinets, and until they make one, its only in their minds. True cabinet makers know, how to build cabinets, and can tell you how to make one. But, it doesnt mean you can! A true cabinet maker is made by God, until he teaches you, everything you make will always fall to the ground.
Now you will try to say, this is about God, not cabinets! I will answer, No! This is about cabinets and not God!
Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
---TheSeg on 6/1/09|
Phil: You're foolishly talking about the non-biblical, religious traditions of misguided people. The insane nonsense you support is churchianity, not true Bible Christianity. If you would only believe & obey God's word (the Bible), instead of being an adherent to the doctrines of demons & practices of men, you could be saved (become a Christian/be in Christ).
---Leon on 5/31/09|
The baptism of infants and children was normative in Christianity by the second century CE. When a head of house hold was converted all the members of his household were baptized including slaves and infants and children by immersion, pouring or sprinkling. The object was to not to make some one wait to favorable conditions to be baptized. Christianity was still in it infancy and under persecution and the object was to have converts inter into full fellowship as soon as possible.
Believer Only Baptism is not normative in Christianity, it is in fact Heresy, as so declared by the protestants in Geneva when the Anabaptist were expelled for it in 1532. If you do not accept infant baptism you can't be a Christian because you are a Heretic.
---Phil_the_Elder on 5/31/09|
Betty: When you say "babies" I assume you mean infants or toddlers. What do you mean by christened?
If you mean water baptized, NO because water baptism should follow only after one has received Jesus Christ as Lord & Savior. Infants/toddlers can't make an informed decision to receive Christ. However, if you mean dedicating the life of the child to Christ my response is a definite YES!
Water baptizing infants is unbiblical. But, dedicating the life of children to God is very biblical.
---Leon on 5/31/09|
Jesus said, "Let the little children come unto Me, and forbid them not." The parents are accountable to God for the upbringing of babies/children. The act of christening lets the children know they belong to Jesus Christ.
---Betty on 5/31/09|
You guy kill me!
Mat 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness, and all these things shall be added unto you.
Mat 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father, neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
Mat 21:25 The baptism of John, whence was it? from heaven, or of men?
And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven, he will say unto us, Why did ye not then believe him?
What get me is you all know in your hearts, these things are true!
All things are of God!
May God Bless You
---TheSeg on 5/30/09|
Idk. This is possibly one of man's traditions. It is important that people who accept Christ as their savior for themselves become Christened though.
---amand6348 on 5/30/09|
Cluny. Where do you see such a teaching in the Bible that babies should be baptized?
---john on 5/30/09|
"Should babies be christened? Why or why not?"
Personally I agree with TIMOTHY, no harm no foul.
---josef on 5/29/09|
I don't know where the Bible says anything about christenings, but I do believe that babies should be baptized and brought to Communion thenceforth.
This is taught in Scripture.
---Cluny on 5/29/09|
Timothy, I agree. I christened my 2 children more for me as a committment to God that I would raise them in the faith. But my oldest just had herself baptised a few years back - by her choice. That's the reward of the parent, that they make the choice when they are old enough to understand the significance of it.
---Jo_Ann on 5/29/09|
they should have a blessing.Not baptisim(chrstianing) They too are children of God ,but age 8 is the age of accountability
& that was when my daughter got baptized at 8 1/2,praise God! & my son got baptized at age 7 on Easter Sunday, but my younger 2 children are not old enough.
---candice on 5/29/09|
For the most part I am for Christenings because it is a great time to catch up with friends and relatives. I also enjoy the food at the potluck afterwards. However it has no spiritual significance one way or the other so if it makes you feel better then enjoy.
---TIMOTHY on 5/29/09|