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Mystery Of The Gospel

What is the MYSTERY OF THE GOSPEL, which was kept secret from the foundation of the world, until it was revealed to the Apostle Paul? Why do Churches neglect and reject teaching about the MYSTERY even though it is written in SCRIPTURE?

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You must remember that the OT is the shadow of what is proclaimed in the NT. The NT is the fulfillment of prophecy of the OT.Miche***


Miche, MarkV, Trav, and so on. ALL OT Prophecy has not been fulfilled.

The MYSTERY (Church) did not replace the Promises to Israel and the Kingdom to be restored to Israel.


I do not believe in Replacement Theology, Period!
AGAIN, ( Zechariah 12-14 tell what will happen when the remaining OT Prophecy WILL BE FULFILLED, when the Risen Christ in ALL His Glory comes and THEY...not US look upon Him whom THEY(ISRAEL) have Pierced and MOURN.

Do you actually believe Zech 12-14 has already been fulfilled? WHEN???
---kathr4453 on 7/6/09


Kath,
The only two groups are the elect(In Christ) and the NOT elect(not in Christ).
They are now one and the same.
The Bible clearly says that Israel (nation) won't be saved until the fulness of the Gentiles has come in. Then they too will accept Christ as the Messiah and will be part of the elect One Body with One head(Christ)
Those that will be saved are the ones in Christ. WHY? Because Christ is the only way truth and life. Being part of Israel the nation is not what will save them. Being part of Christ is what will save them.
If being part of the Nation of Israel would cause someone to be saved by God, there woud have been no need for Christ to come. All one would have to do was convert to being an Israelite.
---miche3754 on 7/6/09


Kath, I like you, and I pray God blesses you and opens your eyes on this specific topic.
Because on this, Trav, Nana, and Markv are most certainly correct. ALL those who believe in God and that Christ IS the savior ARE the chosen people of God.
You must remember that the OT is the shadow of what is proclaimed in the NT. The NT is the fulfillment of prophecy of the OT.
God "divorced" those adulterous nations of Israel and "remarried" to a people that will worship HIM in Spirit and in Truth.
God said he would do it and he did through his son Christ.
---miche3754 on 7/6/09


There are two groups of elect.
The Elect CHURCH and Elect ISRAEL:
The CHURCH IS:
Hidden with God in Christ

Will be GLORIFIED together with Christ at His appearing.

His Glory will be revealed IN US.

Will return with Christ at the 2nd Coming.

Have already been TRANSLATED out of this present evil age, into the Kingdom of His dear Son,NOT OF THIS WORLD

How can anyone in the Church believe someone saying "Christ is here or there"...WHEN HE IS IN YOU, and ready to be revealed IN YOU?

You will be Changed..in the twinkling of an eye, your body been fashioned like HIS?

Nowhere is this even stated in Zechariah 12-14, when Jesus returns to Israel. We don't morn WE REJOICE!!!
---kathr4453 on 7/6/09


Kathr, but at least I can talk to Trav amd many others. You get angry right away. I remember when you use to answer and didn't have to resort to getting angry. I don't believe everything everyone teaches, and they don't believe everything I teach, but at least we can discuss back and forth without having to call someone something. I know you are not the same as before and many others do too. I love for you to answer because if you bring something I have not heard about I will study it. You on the other hand know everything already and don't have to study in order to make bad comments against what you never studied.
Your purpose in answering happens to be different then mind.
---Mark_V on 7/5/09




Kathr 2, You said that I said, "anyone who agreed with Eloy was an enemy of Christianity" Let me say I don't remember making that perticular comment about Eloy. And I have made many. If you can bring it up and show me I will not call your remark false, (notice, I didn't want to say lie) because someone will get angry.
But if you want to be a follower of Eloy and his teachings, go for it. It's your soul.
---Mark_V. on 7/5/09


MarkV said: the real Kathr left US. WHO is US? You and Trav??? Exactly what do you and Trav spiritually or doctrinely have in Common?

You made a comment months ago that anyone who agreed with Eloy was an enemy of Christianity..I believe you said this to Anne..because Eloy does not teach truth..

Well MarkV, Trav does not TEACH TRUTH ...does not believe in the universal flood...or that Adam & Eve were the only people created by God....just to name a few.

MarkV, you have often opened your mouth when you should just keep quiet.

Do you ever think before posting?

You might know some of the doctrines of Grace...but I can now see it's only head knowledge. You hate that I challence you!
---kathr4453 on 7/5/09


Trav, I believe the real Kathr has left us. When she answers now she throws passages and makes comments about all kinds of things that no one is even asking. It is more like accusing others of something they have not even mentioned. Just take the subject of Israel, I have not mentioned Israel the nation, or the Millieniel Kingdom, or replacement theology, no one has mentioned one word on it. I answered that the elect are all those who have faith in God who were chosen by God. She throws passages all over the place without context only her own words which really mean nothing to the passage. She was doing so good for a long time and suddenly something snapped. I would like to see the other Kathr back I don't know where she went.
---MarkV. on 7/3/09


From Romans 9:
"For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel"
"Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children"
"As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people, and her beloved, which was not beloved."
"And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there shall they be called the children of the living God."
"For they stumbled at that stumblingstone"
There is no such thing as National Israel, if all believers are God's people. Is this house divided? Only by Rob, Kath, and Trav.
Kath, find a Cohen and a few Rabbi who can help you move the Gospel of Matthew into the OT.
---Nana on 7/3/09


I am careful of this since Jesus was not born yet. We could say Christ also in the Old but His ministry had not began yet. People looked for the Messiah to come.
---MarkV. on 7/1/09

From day one I've liked and noticed that you are a searcher. I never want to discourage a seeker.
I will bore again saying the gist of what you mentioned above is answered in the Marriage,divorce and remarriage...of GOD. The story is simple...written, witnessed by millions...but is seldom seen. The love of the Original Wife...degrading to divorce made the remarriage necessary.
---Trav on 7/2/09




A mystery is something that only a few people understand, because God has given them special insight. It is not a result of man's goodness, that he understands. It is a result of God's gracious action in their lives. He gives them the necessary qualities that make them the good ground to receive the gospel. Sometimes after people receive the gospel, the devil with his lies deceives the person into wrong beliefs, but if that person is good (godly), it won't affect their moral compass.
---frances008 on 7/1/09


Trav, thank you brother. Catch me if you see I wonder or say something out of place. Many times I want to answer and might quote something else by mistake. Sometimes even when I speak of Jesus Christ I want to be careful I use the correct meaning.
The chosen of God are all those who eventually will come to Jesus Christ by faith in His works on the Cross in the New, and those chosen by God who put their faith in God the Father in the Old. I am careful of this since Jesus was not born yet. We could say Christ also in the Old but His ministry had not began yet. People looked for the Messiah to come.
---MarkV. on 7/1/09


Elect are all those chosen by God.
In the Old T. all who believed, in the New T. the same.
---MarkV. on 6/30/09

Mark, you are right. The old Testament was about all of Israel and the fathers of it. The New Testament is....the same. 14 prophets and David speak of a "regathering". Now in order not to stand against these "Elected" spokespersons it would be essential to line up with them.
Amos 3:1-2
Deut 30:1-6
Ps 107:43
Isa 11:9-13,40:11
Jer 3:18, 23:3,5,7,8. 31:31
Ez 6:60
Ez 37:11
Hosea 1:10, 8:10
Amos 9:11-15
etc,etc,etc. All ISRAEL...even the nations you lost/forgot/poofed off.
---Trav on 7/1/09


MarkV, ISRAEL Mine Elect is a NATION. Yet not all in Israel were or are saved....

Because you believe in replacement Theology, that the Church replaced Israel and is not the only elect, you will never see The Gospel ACCORDING to the Mystery.

Paul received this by Revelation of Jesus Christ...and was not taught it by man. You too must also receive this as well, by Revelation of Jesus Christ.

Mark, Jechariah 12-14 and especially ch14 describes the Mellinniel Kingdom. NO WHERE in Heaven will God CUT OFF any nation ( Egypt) who refuses to come to Jerusalem and worship.

Zech 12-14 is Romans 11 when a DELIVERER will come and ALL Israel will be saved!!
This is talking about Christ's Earthly reign.
---kathr4453 on 7/1/09


MarkV, Part 2..please post

Let me say this too. Those who believe in Replacement Theology AKA Reformed Theology which Calvin taught,9 not only Calvin, but Kingdom Now Theology and so many more false teachers, do not believe in the Millenniel Kingdom Reign. The reason is because the Millenniel Kingdom is promised to Israel... Replacement Theology, as you and these others believe, totally disguard Romans 11, believing THEY are now the New Israel...

When the Deliverer comes out of SION (Heaven itself)HE's coming to deliver Israel from her enemies, Clearly stated in Zech 12-14. Isaiah 14 many more places.

NOT all OT Prophecy has yet been fulfilled.

The RISEN Christ has NOT come again as stated in Zech 12:10
---kathr4453 on 7/1/09


Kathr, can you provide Scripture where it says,
"MarkV, Enoch represents the translation of the Church. Read Hebrews 11!!!

Noah and family represent those saved during the Great Tribulation period, and those who will enter the 1000 year Millenniel reign of Christ...the Sheep that enter in...the Goats will not....and replentish the earth at that time."?

You did the same thing Exzucuh did on Adam and Eve with the tree's and the tithes. You created something not there with the passages. I am sure you cannot provide proof of what you are saying but if you can I will recant and apologize to you.
Plus, Elect are all those chosen by God.
In the Old T. all who believed, in the New T. the same.
---MarkV. on 6/30/09


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Nowhere in the OT was there ever a mention of Jew and Gentile being EXACTLY on the same footing.

The CHURCH, both Jew and Gentile are a New Creation IN CHRIST....and no longer one or the other, but members of Christ's Body, as Jesus Christ is head if the Church.

WE, both Jew and Gentile, in the Church are build up a SPIRITUAL habitation,,in heavenly places IN CHRIST, begotten sons through Jesus Christ.

In Zech 12-14, when Jesus returns to earth, stands on the Mount of Olives....after teh Great tribulation mentioned in MAtthew 24 & 25.

Since the Church was kept secret...AS we believe PAUL said it was....the 2nd Coming here in Matt and Zech is not to the Church, but to Israel, the NATION!!!
---kathr4453 on 6/30/09


MarkV, Enoch represents the translation of the Church. Read Hebrews 11!!!

Noah and family represent those saved during the Great Tribulation period, and those who will enter the 1000 year Millenniel reign of Christ...the Sheep that enter in...the Goats will not....and replentish the earth at that time.

Isaiah 66, a baby will DIE at 100. MarkV, Israel will certianly SEE the Glory of the Lord, as His Glory will fill the earth...However:

The CHURCH...His Body is GLORIFIED TOGETHER with Christ....BIG DIFFERENCE!!!!if you read Zech 12:10-14 or Zech 12-14...you would see the differences...but maybe not. Calvin does not teach this...unfortuantely for you, he kept you in the dark.
---kathr4453 on 6/30/09


Kathr, I don't know what you are refering to when you say Matthew 24. The angels of the Lord will be gathering all of the elect from all corners of the world. It does not mention Israel's elect but all of the elect. ...
Jesus is basically said, "It will be just like Noah's day vv. 37-39, Did Noah and his family vanish before the flood? No. What about those who were left behind? They all died.
---MarkV. on 6/29/09

Mark, Israel is the elect...mentioned over 2000 times. Search...they are found at end of Revelations.
Flood was not universal...same people still here in evidence.
---Trav on 6/30/09


I agree with---ty's answer!!!!
---mima on 6/30/09


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The reason why churches do not teach about the Mystery which is Christ in you the hope of glory-Col 1:27 is because it would totally destroy the churches that taught it. Every believer is the church and makes up the body of Christ who is the head. No one in the body is more or less important than the other. The institutional church of today does not reflect what the Apostle Paul taught according to the revelation of Christ.
---ty on 6/30/09


Kathr, I don't know what you are refering to when you say Matthew 24. The angels of the Lord will be gathering all of the elect from all corners of the world. It does not mention Israel's elect but all of the elect. This is the time of the Second Coming of Christ. I don't know to which theory you follow, whether pro-tribulation, Pre-tribulation or no tribulation after the rapture.
The coming "Parousia" is the Second Coming of Christ, verse 39. Jesus is basically said, "It will be just like Noah's day vv. 37-39, Did Noah and his family vanish before the flood? No. What about those who were left behind? They all died.
---MarkV. on 6/29/09


1 Cor 2: 7But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

UNTO OUR GLORY.

Colossians 1..The mystery is CHRIST IN YOU..the Hope of GLORY.

John 17....Glorify them with the GLORY you have given me..that we may be one.

Romans 8,those who suffer with Him will also be GLORIFIED together WITH HIM.


Yes, one must be so heavenly minded they are no earthly good for this REVELATION

Ephesians 3:3
How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery, (as I wrote afore in few words,
---kathr4453 on 6/29/09


Romans 16:25-26 Now to him who is able to establish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
But now is MADE MANIFEST,
and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

A mystery that is made known is no longer a mystery to those it is revealed, but to those in darkness it shall be a mystery because of unbelief.
---exzucuh on 6/29/09


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The Mystery of The Gospel can be found in the Epistles witten by the Apostle Paul, especially in Ephesians.

The Jews rejected Christ as the Messaiah and King. It is amazing there are so many people who claim the be Christian, yet they reject Christ as Savior, and they reject the Mystery of the Gospel of Grace.
---Rob on 6/29/09


MarkV, also refer to Zechariah 12:10-14. This is referring to Matthew when the SON OF MAN returns to Israel.

Also note, the Church will not be morning when WE see Him. For WE shall be LIKE HIM. **1st John.

Again, part of the Mystery Kept SECRET,was the CHURCH, His Body....and was not revealed in the OT. Therefore THIS coming to translate HIS CHURCH is not Matt 24 or Zechariah 12:10-14.

Just more tid bits here!
---kathr4453 on 6/29/09


1 Thessalonians 4:16
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:



MarkV, I don't know what your conversation with Mark_Eaton concerning the first or last 3 1/2 years trib...re Matthew 24


But if you re-read Matthew 24....It would seem THERE at that time....the Angels will be gathering the ELECT in Israel.

Why Angels? Because the Church has already been translated out.

There are so many differences....yet no one wants to see them..or they just explain away!

---kathr4453 on 6/28/09


Kathr, I answered Mark E, on another blog, and made a quote that Jesus ministry of 3 and a half years was mainly to the lost sheep of Israel. That is very true if we look at all He did while here. But that passage in the context in Matthew did not allow it to say Jews only, Here is what I said concerning that passage,
"The Gospel of the kingdom is for everyone who put's their faith in Christ works and His resurrection. The message ultimately penetrates every part of the globe.
though in the beginning it was only for Jews and later, ultimately, penetrates every part of the globe. Which means, it was given to the Gentiles when God gave Peter a vision revealing it was now time to preach to the Gentiles in Acts 10:1-28.
---MarkV. on 6/26/09


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MarkV Part #Acts 1:6-7. What motivated Peter to ask...."are you at this time(WHAT TIME???) going to restore the Kingdom to Israel?"

You see, the Disciples being with Jesus when the Kingdom was announced in Matthew by John the Baptist, and also knowing their prophesy of OT about teh Kingdom to be restored...knowing Jesus went to the Cross, and not to the throne.

Judas, believing Jesus was there to take the earthly throne then and overthrow Roman rule as IS STILL promised...betrayed Jesus!

Even when the guards came to take Jesus, Peter cut off an ear, still didn't understand Jesus must FIRST suffer and die ( Isaiah 53)....what did Jesus say to Peter...Get the behind me satan.
---kathr4453 on 6/26/09


MarkV, Matthew was announcing the KING...before Jesus was rejected and crucified and risen.

With KING comes the Kingdom that was promised to be restored to Israel Acts 1:6-7. Jesus told Peter that only GOD knew when that day would be. Read Matthew 24 again...you will see those SAME words....ONLY the Father Knows when the Kingdom will be restored to Israel.

Jesus is saying in Acts 1:6-7 that it's not NOW,for if it was NOW, no such comment would be made.

Can't you see Matthew is KINGDOM LAW and NOT GRACE...and where all this false doctrine is coming in...and Kingdom NOW teaching attached to it.(self-salvation).

ALL who do not understand GRACE. Look where they quote scripture from!!...Matthew!
---kathr4453 on 6/26/09


Kathr, you didn't show where the Gospel of the Kingdom is for Jews only. All you said about other passages has nothing to do with the context of that passage in Matthew 24. Of course he was talking to His disciples of what was going to happen but just because He is talking to them does not mean it was only for them. You are assuming just because he was talking to the disciples. The context does not allow that at all.
The Gospel of the kingdom is for everyone who put's their faith in Christ works and His resurrection. The message ultimately penetrates every part of the globe. God is never without a witness, and He will proclaim the gospel from heaven itself if necessary (Rev. 14:6).
---MarkV. on 6/26/09


Do a web search of the Mystery of the Gospel, and compare it with scripture, then you will know the answers along with the TRUTH.
---Rob on 6/25/09

Rob, not a bad idea, except there are many different understandings.

The Mystery is the Church..and the Church was Hidden with God IN Christ. We His Body,are begotten Sons through Jesus Christ, are the church...The BRIDE of Christ is the Mystery Here. We are not the wife of God which is Israel.


The Mystery HIDDEN and not revealed in the OT:


Salvation was never a Mystery

A Redeemer was never a Mystery, Genesis 3:15
That Gentiles would be saved was never a mystery. Abraham was told in him ALL families (that includes Gentiles) would be blessed.
---kathr4453 on 6/25/09


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Rob, I was not trying to be mean or disrespectful to you. It was only a question. Could be I had missed something and needed your help. Maybe there were verses that stated that the Gospel of the Kingdom was only for Jews and I had missed them, That was all. Kathr answered for you.
---MarkV. on 6/25/09


Do a web search of the Mystery of the Gospel, and compare it with scripture, then you will know the answers along with the TRUTH.
---Rob on 6/25/09


Kathr, I read Matthew 24:1-31 over and over and I don't see where Jesus says "The gospel of the Kingdom is for Jews only"MarkV.

MarkV, do you see Jesus talking to Gentiles in Matthew 24?

Are Gentiles under SABBATH law?

Matthew 24:20
But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

WHERE does Paul tell warn us about these things?

MarkV, Please read Zechariah 12-14.THIS is referring to Matthew 24 and 25.

The Time of Jacob's Trouble!!!Again MarkV, the Church is NOT JACOB!!! ***Isaiah 14. Jacob is ISRAEL. AND the ELECT here in MAtthew 24 is ISRAEL.. the 144,000.
The second coming of Jesus...Acts 1:6 & 7 also see verse 11. Vs 11 is Zechariah 12-14!!!
---kathr4453 on 6/25/09


Kathr, I read Matthew 24:1-31 over and over and I don't see where Jesus says "The gospel of the Kingdom is for Jews only"
In fact Jesus says it is going to be "preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come"
Jesus was speaking to the disciples. Maybe Rob has another passage to confirm what he said.
---MarkV. on 6/25/09


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MarkV, because many STAY in Matthew ONLY, false teachings occure.

The Gospel according to the MYSTERY IS the Church...Christ in you, the Hope of Glory. The MYSTERY also involves the translation of the Church before this time in Matthew.

Many here believebecause they think they are Jews now, worried about taking FLIGHT on the Sabbbath..etc, etc,??!!. The Church is under no such warnings.

The 144,ooo will be preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom AFTER we are gone. If the Church were still here, there would be no need for 144,000 Jews, 12,000 from each tribe.

Matt 25 Sheep and Goats TELL us who will be saved to enter in this Earthly Kingdom of 1000 years.
---kathr4453 on 6/25/09


MarkV, if Rob can't find it, here it is. Matthew is talking to JEWS concerning the Great Tribulation period.

Matthew 24:13-15

13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations, and then shall the end come.

15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

MarkV, verse 13 is where so many think WE His Church has to endure to the end to be saved. WORKING for their salvation.

WE're saved by FAITH in His Finished work on the Cross!
---kathr4453 on 6/25/09


Rob, can you direct me to the passages that teach that "The gospel of the Kingdom" was only for Jews?
---MarkV. on 6/25/09


kathr4453,
I have no requirements, nor desire to be such as a Proselyte. All that I am trying to say is that God is not divided against himself, never has and never will, and that there is no such thing as "theirs" and "ours", their way and our way, there is only one way.
---Nana on 6/24/09


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Count me in with the many people who "link the two together". I have no problem with that.
---Nana on 6/24/09


Nana, if you really think about it,under KINGDOM TEACHING, as a Gentile, you will and can only be a Proselyte..and in submission to Jews and never a Jew.

Paul tells us in Galatians, Gentiles are not sinners of the Jews.

If You understand the Mystery of the Church...the ONE NEW MAN did away with that and we see there is no longer a Jew OR Gentile but ONE NEW MAN in Christ.

The Church was kept secret until the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

---kathr4453 on 6/24/09


Count me in with the many people who "link the two together". I have no problem with that.
---Nana on 6/24/09


Many people don't know and understand there is a difference between the Gospel of the Kingdom (which was only given for the Jews) and the Gospel of Grace, which was given for both Jew and Gentile.

People try to link the two together which cannot be done. This is part of the Mistery of the Gospel.
---Rob on 6/22/09


AMEN Rob!!!
---kathr4453 on 6/23/09


Many people don't know and understand there is a difference between the Gospel of the Kingdom (which was only given for the Jews) and the Gospel of Grace, which was given for both Jew and Gentile.

People try to link the two together which cannot be done. This is part of the Mistery of the Gospel.
---Rob on 6/22/09


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The building of the CHURCH is what we preach TODAY. Upon this Rock( Jesus) I will build MY CHURCH!!!
---kathr4453 on 6/19/09

And in your pronouncement and "preaching" show that even this "church" is a mystery to you.
Refusing to learn, you preach what you do not even understand.
You do not realize who the "Eklesia" is. Thinking you understand you show that you don't. Preach-ily,teach-ily, you show your disregard toward anointed disciples. Spouting,authoritively the doctrine of the day....you go against the prophets.
You go gurl.
---Trav on 6/20/09


Very, very good kathr...
---duane on 6/19/09


Colossians 1:25Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God,

26Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

27To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

28Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom, that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:




Perfect IN CHRIST Jesus is the key here!!!


The CHURCH was not revealed in the OT.
---kathr4453 on 6/19/09


more excellent way,
What kind of church do you attend if any.
---calhoon on 6/19/09


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The question at hand: The Mystery of the Gospel or as Paul says in Romans 16:24-27 The Gospel ACCORDING TO THE MYSTERY.
Trav is correct...if we don't understand this Mystery...how can we obey it much less proclaim it.

There are Many Mysteries in Scripture...including the Mystery of Iniquity, but THAT is not the question.
Colossians 1 CLEARLY tell us what THIS MYSTERY is....it is Christ in you.


To as many as receive Him, to Them gave He the Power to become the Sons of God.

This MYSTERY Jesus prayed in John 17...I in them and thou in me that we may be ONE. The Mystery HERE is the CHURCH..the Body of Christ.

The building of the CHURCH is what we preach TODAY. Upon this Rock( Jesus) I will build MY CHURCH!!!
---kathr4453 on 6/19/09


We cannot fulfill the Great Commission (spread the GOSPEL, not "bible") if it remains a mystery to us.
"GOSPEL" refers to the good news of what Jesus did on the cross.
---more_excellent_way on 6/15/09

Truth "Gospel" is only recognized by people who require/need/look/useful for. (Jacobs daughter at the well, example).

The mystery has been fulfilled in front of all eyes for 2009 years. Only the people that are drawn/look/ask/seek or have laws in heart and mine placed by GOD will ever understand the "mystery".
Heb 8:10, Jer 31:33.
---Trav on 6/19/09


Most E. Way, I love your answer and many others of which they are very true. I believe "Mystery" has to do with many. There were many Truths hidden and later revealed in the New Testament that are called mysteries. Here is one in Eph 3, that Jew and Gentile are brought together in one body in the Messiah. For others, 1 Cor. 15:51, Col. 1:27, 1 Tim. 3:16). Paul not only wrote of the mystery that, in Christ Jew and Gentile become one in God's sight and in realized that spiritual knowledge must precede practical application. What is not properly understood cannot properly be applied. As to the answer of Shawn T. He spoke of on that. The endwelling of the Spirit was a mystery.
---MarkV. on 6/17/09


Let's be faithful followers and gather those that will hear the Gospel of our Lord and turn from there old ways and be baptised unto a new life.

Encourage them to put that newly found light in the window for all to see, encourage mercifulness, for mercy breaks the chains that bind them to judgment and to be forgiveful, Because without forgivness, No man/woman shall enter the kingdom of Heaven.

In these times were in, let us be strong & faithful, and be beacons of his light for those that need a direction to follow in these darkened hours that shall soon be upon us.

We are in a sea of darkness, it's time for us to be a guiding light for man to see/hear.
Stand & be Recognized as a Child of God
YLBD
---YLBD on 6/15/09


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We cannot fulfill the Great Commission (spread the GOSPEL, not "bible") if it remains a mystery to us.

"GOSPEL" refers to the good news of what Jesus did on the cross.

Did the "church of man" (apostate church) ever teach that we need not do "works"/deeds because Jesus did all that is necessary? (John 6:28 and 9:3). No, of course not, they want us to be "CONTROLLED" so they will always get more money from us.

But do we each really want to know that we can simply REST in The Lord instead of do "works" OF OUR OWN?...NO, we want to imagine ourselves as ACHEIVING worthiness, this is why the gospel remains a mystery (we are not simply VICTIMS of the moneychangers).
---more_excellent_way on 6/15/09


tom2 writes: "by definition a mystery is something unexplained or unknown. Jesus did not come to present the world with a mystery."

Mt 13:15 ...and their eyes they have closed, lest at any time they should see with their eyes...and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

It is their choice to not "see". Of course, Jesus came to present the world... with a mystery.

To the question: "Why do Churches neglect and reject teaching about the MYSTERY even though it is written in SCRIPTURE?"...

Some choose to know it--others choose not to.
---BruceB on 6/13/09


To truly reveal the mystery, simply do an online KJV bible search for "myster" (which include words mystery and mysteries) find what you are looking for.
---Steveng on 6/9/09

Well, this is a start, and neccessary to prove men "always" fall short.

I wasted lot of time asking men questions. Especially "shepherds" of the cemetary's.
I was really frustrated with all doctrine/explainations and Whole-heartedly asked the only "teacher".

Ask, and it shall be given you, seek, and ye shall find, knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
Matthew 7:6-8

But be not ye called teacher: for one is your Master, even Christ, and all ye are brethren.
Matthew 23:7-9

---trav on 6/10/09


ethnos eth'-nos
probably from 1486, a race (as of the same habit), i.e. a tribe, specially,
a foreign (non-Jewish)
---Exzucuh on 6/9/09

Exactly. Thanks. Non Judahite. But,formerly Reuben,Issachar,Ephraim,Mannaseh etc.
Typical of modern doctrines...u use only what seems to fit, discarding any other scripture "truth"-"Gospel". Find one prophet that supports your "truth".
GOD, can bless anyone. GOD has,will,does. But not those who preach/teach untruth. Will not negate former/future wife to be in Heb 8:8, Jer 31:31.
---trav on 6/10/09


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To truly reveal the mystery, simply do an online KJV bible search for "myster" (which include the words mystery and mysteries) and find what you are looking for.
---Steveng on 6/9/09


ethnos eth'-nos
probably from 1486, a race (as of the same habit), i.e. a tribe, specially,
a foreign (non-Jewish) one (usually, by implication, pagan):--Gentile,
heathen, nation, people.

Ephesians 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
---Exzucuh on 6/9/09


Ans: because we are in a state of Apostasy.

The MYSTERY is Christ in you as stated in Col 1. Christ in you makes you a BEGOTTEN SON through Jesus Christ.

Many today want to live under OT law and ordinances. Israel (Isaiah 43:1) was a NATION CREATED by God, and not begotten sons as we are.

John 1:to as many as receive Him,to them gave he the power to become the sons of God.
Hebrews/Romans:and if SONS then Heirs with Jesus Christ (again never promised to Israel the Nation or Adam/Eve for that matter.

This Mystery was partially revealed in Jesus prayer John 17. I in them and thou in me that we may be ONE..

FYI....Nations are not ONE with Jesus and the Father. Only individual souls are!
---kathr4453 on 6/9/09


it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit, That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
---Exzucuh on 6/8/09

The reply by scripture answer above shows why there is still mystery 4u...even to a intentioned individual.
Gentiles, a latin word above if translated correctly would...with the prophets and all other scripture show that it was the people of Heb 8:8 being discussed.
Judah had a big problem with accepting these goyim ( gentiles if you prefer) brothers/sisters back. Some of the undivorced Judeans/Benjamites did understand that the husband dieing, freed the former wife to remarry.
---trav on 6/9/09


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Rob,
I do not think that the two are speaking of the same mystery...
---Nana on 6/9/09


Ephesians 3:3-6 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery, (as I wrote afore in few words, Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit, That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
---Exzucuh on 6/8/09


by definition a mystery is something unexplained or unknown. Jesus did not come to present the world with a mystery.
---tom2 on 6/7/09

It was not his mission....mission was not for all or to be understood by all. Easily seen today, by scripture twisters.
The parables tell this. There would be no need for parables if all were supposed to understand it.
Passage Mark 4:11:

11And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

Universalist's adulterate printed,stated "Truth" Gospel weaving intrepretations with not one witness by GOD's selected prophets or scriptures.
---trav on 6/7/09


Josef's answer is all direct from several scriptures.
Here's more.
Col 4:3 Withal praying also for us, that God would open unto us a door of utterance, to speak the mystery of Christ, for which I am also in bonds:

However, Jesus himself revealed some of what previously had been a mystery.
Mar 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all [these] things are done in parables:

I'm not aware of churches that neglect and/ or reject teaching about the MYSTERY
---Donna66 on 6/7/09


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by definition a mystery is something unexplained or unknown. Jesus did not come to present the world with a mystery.
---tom2 on 6/7/09


"Christ in you, the hope of glory: Without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, [and] received up into glory. And all things [are] of God, who hath reconciled us to Himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation, To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing [our] trespasses unto [us], and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. Having made peace through the blood of His cross, by Him, to reconcile all things unto Himself, by Him, [I say], whether [they be] things in earth, or things in heaven."
---Josef on 6/7/09


The Mystery of the Gospel Is Jesus Christ the Son of God, He has been revealed to us in this last day, so that those that believe he is God's Son will receive the Holy Spirit and be saved through obedience to his word.
---Exzucuh on 6/6/09


Ther mystery of the gospel is the ongoing mystery of God to the human race.It ALSO IS THE MYSTERY REVEALED in jesus,which is still a mystery because our flesh will not allow complete understanding of the kingdom.The mystery is revealed by faith,faith as a child has.There aren,t very many believers who have child like faith in God,so they question Gods word and have ongoing issues because of the flesh.Ironically there really is no mystery,except within our own minds. In my opinion the mystery was completely revealed with the birth,death,and resurrection of jesus.The gospel has no mystery,except what our perception of jesus makes it a mystery.
---tom2 on 6/6/09


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Usually when I ask people about the MYSTERY OF THE GOSPEL, they don't have a clue. They also do not even know it is written in scripture.

I commend John and Trav, because they seem to have a grasp of what the MYSTERY is all about.
---Rob on 6/5/09


The mystery of lawlessness also remains a "mystery" because we (humanity) do not TRULY desire to see and admit to our own lawlessness.

Those who truly admit to and see their own lawlessness will also be able to know/understand the "DEPTHS of God" (1 Corin. 2:10).

...but many are prideful and seek the fame and glory of having esoteric knowledge about "ELITE secrets/mysteries" and develop "interpretations" of fancy as "scholars of elite mastery".

God's mysteries only remain hidden behind darkness and pride.
---more_excellent_way on 6/5/09


--Rob:

Brother, While we do have to Spiritually Desire the Truth of God's Word, because it's Spiritual and not tangible, I meant to post 'The Comprehension of the Light of God's Word Spiritual Discerned'!

1Cor.2:11-14 The things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God, that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teaches, but which the Holy Ghost teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
---Shawn_M.T. on 6/5/09


It is no longer a mystery. The mystery was the the preaching of Jesus Christ.
Rom 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
Rom 16:26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
---john on 6/5/09


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Why do Churches neglect and reject teaching about the MYSTERY even though it is written in SCRIPTURE? (BLOG QUESTION)

I love this question. The easiest answer is that "It is Still a Mystery to them". This is proven.

Inside this mystery is the mystery of avoidance of Heb 8:8, Jer 31:31. People that assume it doesn't apply to them do not want to dwell on it. If it is avoided then won't have to answer it, searching for a way around it. Probably carrying the marks of these scripture all the while. Wake up....the bridegroom is coming.
---trav on 6/5/09


Just because the institutional "churchES" of man (the real "church" is SINGULAR) teach that we should know/understand "MYSTERIES", it does not mean that pursuing "special/esoteric knowledge" is a holy pursuit (because of PRIDE).

It is very appealing to the HUMAN spirit (human nature, pride) to possess "special" information.

Christians also want to "possess gifts" that would make them SPECIAL (pride) and also want to be able to BOAST of "spiritual fruits" (those fruits only belong to and are owned and manifested by GOD'S spirit), but the PERSON actually has none of their own ("fruit of light", Ephesians 5:8). You make your own decision.
---more_excellent_way on 6/5/09


--Rob

Brother, The Comprehension of the Light of God's Word being Spiritually Desired is why it's called a 'Mystery'. It takes Faith to gain the Eyes & Ears to See & Hear the Spirit of it's Truth. The mind of the nature man abides in darkness & is unable to Comprehend the Light of God's Word, even though it right there shining all around them in the darkness.

The Truth is a mystery hidden in God, revealed only by His Holy Spirit. If the Father doesn't reveal His Word to you, it will always be a mystery. But all you have to do is just 'Ask', remembering that "If you ask, and receive not, it because you asked amiss, that you may consume it upon your lusts :James 4:3.
---Shawn_M.T. on 6/4/09


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