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Laodicea Church Of Today

"Identification of the age of Laodicea is that this church is lukewarm and spiritually blind yet she thinks she sees. Is todays watered down gospel the Laodicea church of our times?

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 ---mima on 6/9/09
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Some have asked how modern American church is like Laodicea ... Well, Laodicea was a very wealthy city. Jesus' rebuke implied that the church there, like the city itself, trusted in its material wealth, rather than the Lord. Jesus said that you cannot trust both God and mammon. It is no secret that America is very materialistic, and the Church here--particularly evident with the popularity of a distorted "prosperity" gospel--has become materialistic as well.
---Cindy on 7/18/09


Have you heard the saying:"Everyone wants to be considered good,hardly anyone wants to do good." That is the Laodicean attitude.No vim, no vigor for what God says. Almost everyone thinks it is okay by God for them to choose what to believe and choose how to worship Him. When I read the OT I get the distinct impression that God was in charge. NT says those things were written for OUR learning. Yes,we are Laodicean.
---SammyQ on 7/4/09


Nana-

The question specifically refers to the
"church of our times".

The churches of early America were not the church of Laodicea. Whatever their faults, they were in no way like the church of Laodicea.

You speak of the "Laodicean spirit" but do you know what that is? You could make a better argument if you did. Or maybe you are one that just enjoys using the witch trials and the Inquisition now and then to make some kind of point about Christianity.

Why not try actually reading the Bible, the Book of Revelation, (specifically 3:16-17 about the Laodicean Church) before you start making comparisons.
---Donna66 on 6/15/09


"Without a doubt the Laodicean church represents most of the church in modern America! It's easy to see...seeker friendly church, emerging church, liberalism in general and churches who teach the truth but languish in spirit."
Donna66 on 6/11/09
Absolutely! As early as in the days of the Inquisition and witch hunts in America, there was no such foolishness that would represent the Laodicean spirit...

"Churches in the third world are seldom Laodicean."
How about examples of old America, being you started with "modern America"?
---Nana on 6/13/09


Look at how many people blog on Christianet that are "Spiritually Blind" (most) and you will see that we are in the church of Laodicea.
---Leslie on 6/12/09




Without a doubt the Laodicean church represents most of the church in modern America! It's easy to see...seeker friendly church, emerging church, liberalism in general and churches who teach the truth but languish in spirit.

Rev 3:16-17 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing, and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

Churches in the third world are seldom Laodicean. They often meet and study the Word at great sacrifice to comfort and safety...even experiencing severe persecution and death because of their faith.
---Donna66 on 6/11/09


You better believe it. But so have churches throughout history been like the Laodicea church. Nothing new under the sun.
---Ed on 6/11/09


Could they represent ages of the church? You could pigeonhole it that way but then six of seven are obsolete except as example. The letters to the churches are to every member of God's church through every age and time. The message: be Philadelphia.
---Pharisee on 6/9/09

Big amen on this one!!
---miche3754 on 6/10/09


\\ Cluny- A rhetorical question is
a question to which no answer is expected. However my question ends by requesting
a answer.
---mima on 6/9/09\\

Well, it's obvious what answer you want.

Perhaps I should have said "leading question".

So I'll disappoint you and say, "No."
---Cluny on 6/10/09


I know that the Church of Philadelphia symbolizes The Church of Christ or Church of God. But what Church does Ladioca represent?
---lisa on 6/9/09




Revelations 1:11-3:22 was written "unto the seven churches which are in Asia", but we could probably apply various verses to most congregations. It's interesting that the Lord spoke to all the churches in a particular city as if one. Most of those you mention fit Sardis, 3:1-5. Laodicea could be applied to 90+ percent of conservative congregations including Baptists. They have good doctrine, but are worldly (which they call being practically minded). But 3:15-18 concerns being double minded, or serving the Lord and anything else, Romans 7:25, James 1:8. Here, it means to serve both God and mammon, Matthew 6:19-34, Luke 16:1-13, 1Timothy 6:1-10, James 5:1-6.
p.s. Deuteronomy 6:4-5, Matthew 22:35-40, and Mark 12:28-34.
---Glenn on 6/9/09


There are only TWO churches that God did NOT condemn - Smyrna (Persecuted Church), and Philadelphia (Faithful and Faultless Church). Todays church (body) consists of ALL others - Ephesus (Loveless & backslidden - lost their FIRST LOVE - Jesus), Pergamum (Compromising), Thyatira (Corrupt), Sardis (Dead), and Laodicea (lukewarm and blind). There are a REMNANT of the first two, but most of the church has a combo. of the rest - which God hates and condemns.
---Leslie on 6/9/09


Cluny- A rhetorical question is
a question to which no answer is expected. However my question ends by requesting
a answer.
---mima on 6/9/09


It doesn't matter if they're physical churches or not, the letters aren't to specific churches even though churches are specified. Here's why:
In Revelation 3:10 Jesus promises to save Philadelphia from an hour that will "tempt the whole world." Historians have tried to say this has happened under Roman persecution. Well, that didn't include the Romans and only happened to the Christians and it wasn't global! My assessment: Dirt Poor interpretation.

Could they represent ages of the church? You could pigeonhole it that way but then six of seven are obsolete except as example. The letters to the churches are to every member of God's church through every age and time. The message: be Philadelphia.
---Pharisee on 6/9/09


Cluny the original churches addressed in the Book of Revelation ceased to exist hundreds of years before the League Nations.
---Moderator on 6/9/09


Something that many Western Christians don't know about this.

The seven Churches of Asia Minor were all thriving Orthodox Churches until 1922, when a population exchange arranged by the League Nations forced all Christians out of Asia Minor.

(Once more mima asks a rhetorical question.)
---Cluny on 6/9/09


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