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Is Depression Genetic Demonic

Do you believe sicknesses like depression is genetics or not?

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Depression is a spiritual suffering and can be genetics but I assure you those who are depressed are suffering spiritually. For instance my father is a manic depressant i have never known him not to live in fear and in hatred. My mother is diaognosed with bi-polarism but I know her choices in life were always bad, drugs and alchol and selfishness. Monitor your thoughts and emotions are you living life according to your spiritual self or feeding the physical self with pleasures. Only when we live according to the Spirit can we be free from the flesh. Find love within and live in compassion.
---Reverend_Shahzad on 6/18/09

There was this certain thief who grew up as a child in a christian family. He learned the ten commandments by heart and believed them. As an adult, he now steals, but the eigth commandment is instilled in his mind and spirit. So there is conflict between what he is doing and what he believes which, in turn, creates conflict which, in turn, creates depression.

Solution: Keep praying to God to reveal to you the thing that is causing your conflict. Keep asking questions much like all the other godly people in the bible have done when depressed. If you ARE asking questions, you may be asking the wrong questions.

There are man's definition of depression and there are God's. Most of you seem to adhere to man's.
---Steveng on 6/18/09

But Jesus will keep you in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on Him > Isaiah 26:3. So, if we allow spiritual powers to degrade us from this, the depression problem is deeper than just the physical manifestions. "For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places." (Ephesians 6:12) A demonic boss can spread the effect of an evil spirit. And Satan's spiritual messing can effect how our bodies function. So, *if* there is spiritual involvement, it is good to get this diagnosis right so we can understand what we need.
---Bill_bila5659 on 6/17/09

alan- Demons can & do cause chemical reactions & imbalances, diseases, sickness, suicidal thoughts, etc., even death.
---Betty on 6/17/09

Betty ... "Severe depression is probably demonic or caused by a drug or drugs"

No Betty, I agree with Trish, Obewan, & others here. Unless & until you have experienced it, you will not understand.

I was driven to the very edge by my animal of a boss.

God used the doctors and psychiatrists and medication to mend the physical and chemical damage my brain was suffering from.

But I don't think my boss was a demon!!
---alan8566_of_uk on 6/16/09

Obewan: Most definitely extreme stress can cause brain chemistry to go out of whack. It also causes distorted thinking that people may be totally unaware of. Medications can help ease the symptoms and psychotherapy can help the person explore what is causing the problem, and allows them to bring it out in the open and they can take away that trauma's power by exposing it and giving it to the Lord.

I work in a psychiatric hospital and see so many that are seriously mentally ill with depression. It is treatable.
---Trish9863 on 6/14/09

The sick and the diseased came to Jesus and to some He said, "Thy sins be forgiven thee...." To others He told the foul evil spirits to come out.
---Betty on 6/14/09

If the depression is a combination of issues and brain chemistry, it is beneficial to also include therapy to discuss the issues, bring them to the Lord and heal the wounds that are contributing.
---Trish9863 on 6/13/09
What is also probably true is that life stress issues effect brain chemistry and can throw it off.

When I had some serious issues going, I was treated for clinical depression with the proper medication, and it worked.

Those stress issues are now gone, and both the depression and the meds are gone too.
---obewan on 6/13/09

As has been said before, clinical depression, is usually caused by brain chemistry, just as diabetes is caused by the pancreas not producing sufficient insulin. Correct the insulin levels, you correct the blood sugar levels. Correct the brain chemistry, you correct the depression.

If the depression is a combination of issues and brain chemistry, it is beneficial to also include therapy to discuss the issues, bring them to the Lord and heal the wounds that are contributing.
---Trish9863 on 6/13/09

A purely physical depression in our brain, would be an infirmity, I would think. And Paul says "I take pleasure in infirmities," in 2 Corinthians 12:10. So, if depression is only a physical, medical infirmity, then spiritually we can have joy in the Holy Spirit. Jesus says, "My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness." (in 2 Corinthians 12:9) God's almighty grace can keep our *spiritual* mind sound, no matter what happens in our physical brain > "and be renewed in the spirit of your mind." (Ephesians 4:23) "For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind." (2 Timothy 1:7) Also Philippians 4:6-7, how God's peace keeps our minds.
---Bill_bila5659 on 6/13/09

God warns us about "self abasement" (Colossians 2:18). It is the same as SELF ABATEment (surrendering SELF identity), it is DEHUMANIZING and causes a subconscious identity crisis...the mind becomes "depressed"/sad that a "self-identity" no longer exists (demoralized).

I suffered 51 years of suicidal depression because I was demoralized by a severely dysfunctional family, not a demon or genetics, but "I am who I am" (Exodus 3:14) taught me who I am and that the evils of this world are not caused by satan, but caused by people who give in to the temptations of satan (we are not at the mercy of demons unless we let ourselves be).

Verses are from the RSV.
---more_excellent_way on 6/13/09

\\ I believe that "depression" can be both from genetic and demonic sources. However, you can be cured of this through prayer.

I am not sure why medications seem to be the preferred way to treat depression. I think that utilizing prayer to overcome the depression is better.\\

You don't know what you're talking about.

There are some forms of depression that simply do not yield to prayer, fasting, or exorcism/deliverance.

Saying that prayer heals all depressions is one of the lies I referred to earlier. (This is not to say that a healthy spiritual life doesn't help.)

If depression is caused by chemical imbalance, quit trying to play Macho Christian, humble yourself, and take your medicines.
---Cluny on 6/12/09

No. Regular depression could be caused by stress from day-to-day living. Severe depression is probably demonic or caused by a drug or drugs.
---Betty on 6/12/09

It's true that a complaining or ungrateful attitude can pull one down and, in fact, ruin one's life and testimony. This result may be very "depressing". It's cured by a new outlook, often from finding joy in the Lord. Besides this, life has normal "ups" and "downs".

Nothing anyone could say, or pray, ever lifted me out of the depression I knew. It's a mental and spiritual paralysis.(I'm sure prayer worked in the long run, however)

But the right medicines have allowed me to be a genuinely positive person, praising the Lord for His goodness and salvation. I consider this a CURE (in the same sense that insulin is a "cure" for diabetes). However, I'm still thankful for prayer and wise counsel.
---lilbranch on 6/12/09


Yes, there are situations like you described where there is no solution. I have only studied things like schizophrenia being the result of a demonic attack. I haven't actually seen anyone cured of that condition. There are always many things to consider.

I have to agree that a serious medical condition, whatever it is, does have an impact on the body. In the case of schizophrenia, the brain gets damaged. Because of this brain damage, some people probably can't totally recover.

---Sag on 6/12/09

Sag: I agree with you about most psychology, I am more of a learning theorist I suppose. I follow the garbage in garbage out philosophy. I think that is why the Bible tells us to pray without ceasing, focus on him, love the Lord with all your heart mind and sole. Sure, I get depressed like everyone else however I try to find the good in most situations (My wife taught me that). Sometimes that is harder said than practiced, but at least I feel better for trying.
---TIMOTHY on 6/12/09

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I have heard that conditions, like: depression, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, eating disorders,..are "spiritual" in nature. ---Sag on 6/12/09

My sister has severe schizophrenia and has been a ward of the state for nearly 50 years. She is completely and totally disabled. She is so incoherrent that she cannot even focus on a simple conversation for 3 minutes. I would very much say that it is a brain disease much like a person who has had a stroke that has damaged the brain.

Do you dream or ever have a nightmare? Schizophrenia is much like that - living with a waking dream, and unable to control it.

If we say that it is a spritual problem we risk placing the burden of blame on people who are legitimately sick.
---obewan on 6/12/09

I have heard that conditions, like: depression, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, eating disorders, sexual perversions, etc. are "spiritual" in nature. While there might very well be physical things, like chemical imbalances, the root of the condition is a "demonic attack".

Psychiatrists probably agree with me. However, they can't openly state their opinions because of the medical community's classifying these conditions as "diseases". Medications just "mask" the symptoms of the conditions. Take away the medication and the symptoms come right back. Psychiatrists must know that drugs do not "cure" anyone. Prayer and deliverance is the only real "cure". Comments?

---Sag on 6/12/09

There is depression because of sin letting in demonic action.
Easy example > complaining against God's blessing of rain > isn't it blasphemy to call God's blessing "bad"? And disobedient to God's command > "Do all things without complaining" (in Philippians 2:14). A wrong spirit has us cursing God's blessing. And this complaining spirit has us more or less depressed. By having sown to ourselves the seed attitude that rainy weather is lousy, we have doomed ourselves to be having a lousy time, whenever it is raining . . . r-e-a-p-i-n-g all that depressed time, because of one little unthankful seed we sowed. Depression, then, can be emotional reaping (Galatians 6:7-8) (Colossians 3:2, 3:15) (2 Timothy 1:7).
---Bill_bila5659 on 6/12/09


I've never been much of a fan or follower of psychology, but your posting stood out. The MIND and our THOUGHTS are important.

Philippians 4:8 (King James Version)

"Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report, if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things."

From this Bible passage, I conclude that GOOD thoughts will nourish your MIND and BODY and leave you "full of life". And on the other side of the coin, BAD thoughts will rob your MIND and BODY and leave you "depressed".
---Sag on 6/12/09

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I believe that genetics play a role however I come from the Cognitive Psychology school so I think that most depression is thought process related. How we view the world plays a large role in how we feel about the world. If there is a medical imbalance then that needs to be addressed however don't ignore the cognitive part of your mind as well. No drug can make you a more positive person however they can help balance you out so you can change your mind but not alter it.
---TIMOTHY on 6/12/09

I believe that "depression" can be both from genetic and demonic sources. However, you can be cured of this through prayer.

I am not sure why medications seem to be the preferred way to treat depression. I think that utilizing prayer to overcome the depression is better. Prayer gets at the cause of depression: demonic influence, while medications do not. Comments?
---Augie on 6/12/09

\\On anti-depressants, I'm fine...\\

One of the biggest lies from Satan that keeps people in bondage is "Real Christians aren't depressed."

This forces many sufferers into a closet.

But closets of whatever kind are dark, wicked places based on misinformation, deceit, and other works of the devil. Truth is what sets free.

Thank God for the provision He's made for you every time you take your medicine. Clinical depression is no more a demon or sin than is gout or diabetes--I have all three of them.

Tell the truth about yourself. If people make uncharitable and untrue comments about clinical depression and its sufferers, tell them they are talking about YOU! They'll change their attitude in a hurry.
---Cluny on 6/12/09

Lilbranch: God bless you, I am so sorry for your struggle, if you want to reach out to people to educate, awesome! They need it, contact NAMI (National Alliance for the Mentally Ill) and they can help, they have local "In Our Own Voice" programs which my friend Daniel has done and they are so powerful a teaching tool for anybody, believers and otherwise. I am a client of NAMI and I love them! God bless you, Mary
---Mary on 6/12/09

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I have also been treated for depression in my past. It had both a life stress component and a medical (chemical imbalance)component.

It manifested itself mostly as a sleep disorder combined with some accute anxiety. I was not actually sad per-se.

The medication helped cure my insomnia. I did not feel drugged. It was not like taking a "happy pill". It was more like taking a pain killer for a bad headache.

The sleep disorder was like a form of torture. I went 21 days straight on 1-2 hours of sleep at one point.
---obewan on 6/11/09

Cluny-- You have obviously have had some education regarding depression. I've been diagnosed with "clinical depression" several times with suicide attempts. It's definitley not reactive depession.

On anti-depressants, I'm fine...and I've taken them (with occasional adjustments) for many years. But I'm a Christian. Without my medication, I descend into darkness so deep that I have no faith at all. I never tell even close Christian friends about the depression because most, if not all of them, object to the drugs, or conclude I have a demon or some hidden sin.
They know me as a stable, respected Christian with a teaching ministry. Is there any way I can hope to educate Christian friends about this?
---lilbranch on 6/11/09

There are three kinds of depression:

1. Situational or reactive, usually appearing as a result of death or other loss, such as of a job or romantic relationship.

2. Medical, certain underlying physical conditions may trigger depressive episodes and feelings. Unmonitored use of inderal is one example. (I know someone that happened to.) Clear that up, and usually the depression vanishes, too.

3. Clinical depression, which is a chemical imbalance in the body, and may have a genetic component.
---Cluny on 6/11/09

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