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I'm a christain and suffer with depression why do I have to go through this when I believe in God for all my needs?

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Alan,

My last comments were not posted towards you on the contrary.
---Carla3939 on 6/29/09


Jesus did not say lay hands on the sick and they will die, It is not in our commission to
have faith for death but to have faith when we are dieing, Death is a sure thing, healing is not, But it is a sure thing when people have faith and believe that the stripes Jesus took heals us. WE should always be submitting to Gods will, but never giving up not even after death, I have seen four resurrections from the dead one who died again 21 days later after they repented and got right with the Lord. If I had believed the way others do those people would not be here today but I had the faith to pray when everyone else had accepted their death. I do not know why I have this faith but I encourage all to rise above your flesh.
---exzucuh on 6/29/09


Solomon wasn't as wise as you think he had 800
wives and concubines he built temples to other Gods and was rejected by God to be the linage of Jesus Christ, that was given to his brother
Nathan, Cursed is the man that trust in the arm of flesh. We have to look upon the brazen serpent for Our healing,not the two serpents of Janes and jambres that represents the medical profession. Medicine works as a carnal
help to give the natural ability of the body to heal itself, Doctors used to know this and confess it. Drugs only cover up illness and give a false sense wellness, the sickness worsens without the person on drugs knowing it
until they die. There is only healing in the name of Jesus, to God's glory.
---exzucuh on 6/29/09


Carla ... your last paragraph proves my point!

We are in agreement, but you seem to feel the need to attack everything I say, even when you agree with it!

You even say I am trying to force God's hand ... when what I am saying is that we should not do that!
---alan8566_of_uk on 6/29/09


God provided the healing in the plants of the earth to do the research on such plants is both exhaustive and expensive so The medical professions use conventional methods.

Regardless of what they use they are physicians and your statement is dangerous because you eat up your own chance of being healed through ignorance. You then try to force Gods hands. You cannot do that you can only but trust God hope and pray it is impossible to do ask of anything without FAITH.

Solomon was truly wise he could have prayed but he used Wisdom and the child's real mother won through his gift, we too need to pray for Wisdom, my auntie died an awful death refusing Insulin, My mother lives she uses her Insulin!
---Carla3939 on 6/29/09




Carla ... Sometimes the answer to our prayer is physical death. That is the healing in those cases

And of course death does not separate us from God.

But those who teach that prayer will always result in physical healing as we want it are in dangerous error.
---alan8566_of_uk on 6/28/09


I have suffered from acute depression, and I was on medication for two years. I finally stopped taking my medication as I believed that it was starting to make me ill. I now put all my faith in God. I do not know what God's plan is for depression, wheter to take the drugs, or to rely on faith. The one thing I do know, is that I am held in the hands of God. He has my heart and he loves me. No matter where I go, what I do, or how I feel. God's love does not change, it is constant and the love we have for one another is pale and insignificant compared to the love God has for us. Lean on that, anxiety, depression, fear these are tools of the flesh, use them to get closer to God

My he Bless you, Heal you, and shine his love upon you.
---Paul on 6/28/09


You need to turn to God and have complete love and faith in him. Pray constantly, and give your burden over to him. God had healed me of Bipolar and I am cured. I asked him to relieve me of it and I waited knowing he would. Making my relationship stronger with God has helped me greatly. You will be cured! Have faith! God bless.
---nicola5775 on 6/28/09


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I do not know where my other no.2 blog went. I write by inspiration of the H.S. so that is gone. Saul suffered from depression, it was because he would not submit to God or Samuel and did things his own way, we must let Jesus rule and reign in our hearts making him king over our lives and live it by faith. If we run our own lives not obeying the H.S. then depression will also come upon us caused by this sin. Rebellion is considered witchcraft as far as God is concerned.
---exzucuh on 6/27/09


1.
I suffered from depression for many years, when I tell people what causes depression they are offended, I could not get rid of it until I accepted the truth about myself and took the responsibility for myself. This is the reason a lot of people cannot get healed of anything. They believe in a saying religion, confessing scripture like it is magic, People who are not Christians are more likely to be healed than Christians, Why because the faith that heals them turns them to Jesus and they have a repentant attitude, God does not hold them accountable for things they do not know and the moment they believe they are sanctified by the blood and drawn close to God. Then the word become reality, about the stripes Jesus took.
---exzucuh on 6/26/09




3.
Christians like to believe bad things happen to good people, But persecution happens to Good people, sickness and depression does not. When Christians get sick they will not repent
because they surely did not sin. And they will try to appear righteous, and get mad at anyone who even suggests they might have sinned. They do not truly come to Jesus as those he healed in the bible, you will notice he never healed religious people only those that were considered cursed by the Priests, Sadducees and Pharisees. Christians with depression go to doctors and get drugs and go to God after, never seeking healing until they find out that Doctors cannot heal only provide some drug induced help.
---exzucuh on 6/26/09


4.
While the bible does support medicine it does not support drugs, drugs are referred to as sorcery, because sorcerers and witches used Drugs to control people to give them a false healing, and control their pain until they died. Most people that die today do not die a natural death, hospice gives them morphine til it paralyzes their lungs and they suffocate.
Many will rebel against what I am saying, because they trust in man and doctors more than God, But they will one day know that they were wrong when the time comes that it is out of the Doctors hands. What they do not know is it never was in his hands, God was helping them and they gave the Doctor credit.
---exzucuh on 6/26/09


Jazzy,

When you believe God for anything you have to know the God you are asking because faith comes through hearing and hearing is through a preacher and the preacher speaks through the Word of God.

You don't just believe like that you believe regardless of results in spite the out come you praise God and thank him he will do the rest. You trust him even if your change don't come why because it is still God you'll need to trust even in the grave.

That takes a level of understanding and spiritual maturity regardless of any outcome. You just keep holding on!
---Carla3939 on 6/25/09


Death is not the ultimate reason to discard God s anointing in healing, Nothing is this world can separate us not even death, death couldn't do it, So I must have faith even in death that I am going to reach the other side and I'm not going to compromise my position of faith just because death came, says me who has had no one die close to me like a immediate family member.

No.... I may not have but I have to, Have to have to still Trust God regardless and lift him up. praise him in the bad times and praise him in the goo. However Hard it is to do it shows that no matter what God is still God.
---Carla3939 on 6/24/09


Carla ... You misunderstand me. Why do you assume always that I am attacking you.

No, it was not my pastor ... he had the faith, but when the cure did not come, it was us who received the blame of not participating properly in the prayer.

God on occasion heals through prayer only ... on other occasions he does not.

It is those who say that prayer is ALWAYS answered as you want (if you pray properly) who then abandon you when it does not work.

I've known such faithful men of God, who have abandoned those for whom the prayers have not worked, but then eventually die without faith because their prayers for their own healing have not been answered.
---alan8566_of_uk on 6/24/09


Alan,

That's your pastor mine prayed for a ulcer and it disappeared I carried on taking Losec cause I just didn't believe it the Dr's saw it through a barium meal and laughed when they saw it the Wednesday the Sunday I went for prayer the Monday it dissapeared, I can't speak for your pastor I don't know,

You wish to fight about healing I don't care to do that I still have faith if God does not heal me then I'm not healed it takes nothing away for my love for God or my trust, I trust him with my life regardless!!!!!!

Just because he does not heal me it does not mean he isn't still the Almighty all healing God.
---Carla3939 on 6/23/09


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Alan

''Shooting the wounded'' Your nailing me again for your church failures or for a situation that only God can answer.

I'm sorry for your loss and I know that you are lonely but you cannot hold guilty those with testimonies of healing that's taking away the liberty to proclaim the goodness of God.

I have not lost anyone too close to me but like I say I don't like death I hate it and it's an area I also need help in but I know God has helped me to at least think about it in these last years as friends and family members have passed.

Once again I am sorry for your loss and pray you'll find a lovely Alan of Uk wife real soonXXXX
---Carla3939 on 6/23/09


Carla, my pastor at church named and claimed healing for my wife, who had cancer.

She died.

Whilst prayer does onj occasion actually stop the disease, on most occasions it gives the strength for the sufferer to cope with the situation (or in the case of depression or other mental illness, the family gets the stength to handel the sufferer)

It is dangerous to tell tell everyone that God will give in to our demands, because there will be bitter disappointment and guilt if it does not work as we want it.



"The fact that your prayer was not answered means you did not pray properly, so you can't be one of us ... goodbye!!"

It's called shooting your wounded
---alan8566_of_uk on 6/21/09


Alan,

I know most Anglican Churches 30 years ago never as much as touched on the subjectof healing as indepth as The Black Pentecostal churches.

So I just think it is a teaching issue what does the church that you attend teach?

Do they specialise teaching within the areas of lifes failures, punishment or healing especially praying openly within church and the home and the witnessing of ones overcoming their illnesses , many certainly do not.

Where as black churches focus a lot on overcoming the enemy through illnesses and life's failures support is generally great in theses areas.
---Carla3939 on 6/21/09


Katherine--

What you speak of is the normal ups and downs of life. Everybody experiences this type of "depression". With prayer and meditating in the Word, it can be overcome. It is a temporary condition that generally resolves itself in time.

Clinical depression is not just an "extension" of normal depression. It is not an attitude of saddness or pessimism.

It more like paralysis..affecting a person physically, mentally, spiritually. It is the abscence of hope. Clinical depression, turns ordinary daily activities into supreme feats... from getting up in the morning to eating a meal to conversing with a friend. Nothing anyone says penetrates it.
This type of depression requires medical intervention.
---Donna66 on 6/20/09


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Katherine ... what you describe is not depression!

Read mine of 6/18
---alan8566_of_uk on 6/20/09


Ok...
What if god came unto you and said, "I command you be happy in the world as long as you live!" What would you do then?
Alright. So imagine what I said, god really did say. Now what?
Everyone suffers from depression, hardships, hard times, etc.
The thing about this, is depression is either going to nip you in the bud, or you're going to beat it. There is no middle point with this.
Believe that god is taking care of your need of personal growth through depression. Trust me, there will be a point where you decide depression no longer represents Who You Are, and with god, the two of you will change that completing your growth into the new and improved you. :)
---Katherine on 6/20/09


Carla .. you accuse me of failing to understand you, but you did seem originally to say that we only needed to pray to get out of depression. Sorry if I misunderstood you!

You now say "I just did not take drugs for depression Is that Okay!"

Yes that is quite okay, and as I said before I am pleased for you.

I assume then that in spite of what you said before, you do allow that medication (I prefer that to the term "drugs") and psychiatric help (which is using the gifts that God has given us)is appropriate and godly
---alan8566_of_uk on 6/19/09


Obewan,

I believe God for healing
people jump to conclusions misunderstanding that I only believe God for just healing I took insulin when I was pregnant, I could have believed him for a working pancreas That's cultish behavior and is absurd Unless you believe in that area and God delivers you I went along with my Consultant.

You cannot force God to heal you, you can only ask... what Alan fails to understand I have not now or ever advocated drugs are completely out PERIOD! never did or will he never asked me in that way, he just assumed and ran with it!!

I just did not take drugs for depression
Is that Okay!.
---Carla3939 on 6/19/09


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Dear Suffering Soul..

Find someone who has compassion and the love of God in them and go and have them pray over you. This is not something to take lightly when you suffer depression. You suffer inside because you lost your inner yourself. You wont find that anywhere but in compassion and then will you find the strength and love of God within yourself to overcome this bad habit. You only steal to get attention. You feel guilty cause you wish to feel something because I do not feel that you felt the true love of a compassionate person in your life.
---Melissa on 6/18/09


I suffered from depression, and still do sometimes, but I had a Christian Counselor and he really helped me. The other Counslors I had been to didn't even come close to helping me. This counselor even prayed with me when I asked him to.

I have what they call the "Silent Chronic Illnesses" because to look at me you wouldn't think there was anything wrong with me. When all the while my insides are playing havoc with me.

It took me a long time to realize that God has a reason for everything, and, sometimes He doesn't tell us. He doesn't make these things happen to us, He allows these things to happen. So when I am feeling down or my body is cooperating with me, I just stop and think of that.
---Norma on 6/18/09


There was this certain thief who grew up as a child in a christian family. He learned the ten commandments by heart and believed them. As an adult, he now steals, but the eigth commandment is instilled in his mind and spirit. So there is conflict between what he is doing and what he believes which, in turn, creates conflict which, in turn, creates depression.

Solution: Keep praying to God to reveal to you the thing that is causing your conflict. Keep asking questions much like all the other godly people in the bible have done when depressed. If you ARE asking questions, you may be asking the wrong questions.
---Steveng on 6/18/09


Obewan ... I agree with you about the danger of this idea that if only you pray "properly" God will meet your demands. It can and has led to the unnecessary death of many ill people, especially children, who are not allowed the choice of seeking medical assistance.

But your comments don't support predestination, for that would mean that whether you only pray or only go to the doc, or do both, the result will be the same.

Incidently, I don't accept that 10 year old study ... I suspect it was made by those with an atheist agenda. There have in fact been recent studies by non-beleivers, which show that praying does help (even though the observer does not accept that there is a deity answering the prayer)
---alan8566_of_uk on 6/18/09


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all you need is God Lead believing Elders who pray anoint you with oil and believe for your healing, if your not healed question the hands that prayed for you!
---Carla3939 on 6/18/09
That implies that a man can change God's mind since you imply that one "ability" might be better than another! I don't think "ability" comes into it as a factor since God is soveriegn and has predestined what will happen. A famous study done over 10 years with hundreds of hospital patients showed zero co-relation between prayer and healing! See Christianity Today within the last few months for the article.

If we are not careful, we will have more healing cults with dead children from parents who refused medical care.
---obewan on 6/18/09


Carla ... I'm glad you managed it.

Many don't without the help of the skills that God has given to the medics, and I think it is wrong for you to make them (us) guilty for accepting that God-provided help.

As a matter of interest, did you ever reach the stage where you KNEW you would never get better, (I got there ... overnight, I just woke like that) and that your suffering was the WORST that had ever happened to any human being (I know two who got there) ?

But you say "One actually said she taken drugs but hadn't been through 1/4 I had" Now that reads as if by using medication (and perhaps the skills of psychiatrist) she avoided becoming as ill as you. But perhaps you don't mean that
---alan8566_of_uk on 6/18/09


You don't need to have a degree or a bachelor's to get healing from God all you need is God Lead believing Elders who pray anoint you with oil and believe for your healing, if your not healed question the hands that prayed for you!
---Carla3939 on 6/18/09


Do you know what Alan,

My case is so draining debilitating and long winded just allowing me to write about it would send me begging for drugs to cope with it, so you know what..... I wouldn't appreciate having to do that and CN wouldn't have the capacity or memory to to print it,just for you to understand where in the devils backyard I've had to Beg God to take me from it just isn't worth your praise.


God knows where he's actually taken me from and that's all that matters, you'd never appreciate it and I don't need either you or anyone to. Just know it could only be God, I didn't take the drugs because of my friends that did them, I just chose not to.
One actually said she taken drugs but hadn't been through 1/4 I had .
---Carla3939 on 6/18/09


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\\All healing is from God.\\

I've never denied this.

And as I've said elsewhere, God usually uses medicine and doctors.
---Cluny on 6/17/09


Carla ... You speak with such conviction that you have obviously suffered from acute depression (and, Amanda, feeling your life is going nowhere is not even severe depression)

Please tell us about it, what it was like, how despairing you got, how you felt the world would be better off without you, and how by prayer alone, without the intervention of medics, you were saved from this.

It would be a real inspiring testimony to us all.
---alan8566_of_uk on 6/17/09


I know The God that takes care of all of any one who puts their faith/trust and in him is able and works in the impossibilities, tell me who else is able to deliver you from all our infirmities ?

The bible said you need only have the faith of a mustard seed and you can tell the mountain( your situation however big) To be removed and they Go!

Again who else do you turn to?

Rhetorical question!!!! only those who believe operate under the belief of Christ who died and rose again to set us free from all sickness and diseases understand this blessing regardless of who so ever All healing is from God.

I will continue in faith you can trust yourself.
---Carla3939 on 6/17/09


\\Christianity is a process and depression although caused by many circumstances is overcome through the word and the help of a good christian friend, \\

Obviously, Carla, you know precious little about either Christianity or depression.
---Cluny on 6/16/09


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\\Christianity is a process and depression although caused by many circumstances is overcome through the word and the help of a good christian friend, \\

Obviously, Carla, you know precious little about either Christianity or depression.
---Cluny on 6/16/09


Carla: I would love to see how you would do with your prescription for depression with my psychiatric patients in the hospital.
---Trish9863 on 6/16/09


Cluny,

You remind me of a text book midwife
slapping the poor woman on the leg and saying come on your nearly there only to find the midwifes never had a baby and worst still the babies cords round the it's neck.

Christianity is a process and depression although caused by many circumstances is overcome through the word and the help of a good christian friend, I have run help groups for women and and know well that it takes knowing God, prayer morning noon and night until the Lord tarries. Without a Good support group with depression your fishing in deep waters without a anchor.

Hope comes through a preacher, through hearing, learning and obeying!
---Carla3939 on 6/16/09


This is the perfect time to lean on God for all of your needs.

Eat fruits and vegetables, take a multivitamin everyday, and get exercise three to four times a week.

If this doesn't suit you, maybe get more into God's Word during your depressing times. You could probably read Proverbs or Lamentations. I think you could relate to what is in Lamentations.

I used to be on antidepressants, but they kept me up at night eventually and I began not to care about lots of things. Now I sometimes get depressed and feel like my life is going nowhere, but those moments pass. Reach out to God and friends. I'm here if you need to talk.
---amand6348 on 6/16/09


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\\
Speak to your depression in Jesus name and Go onto demon busters and download the prayers for occults and Ancestry curses and get members of the church to pray with you in your home if you cannot find a reasonable answer to why you are depressed.\\

And then what if these tricks don't work, Carla? (And they usually don't.)

Are you going to heap MORE condemnation and guilt on this suffering soul?

Besides, if you're born again ALL curses are broken at that point.

Either that, or "born again" means nothing.
---Cluny on 6/16/09


Do you need to get more into caring for others, also? You might be believing God for all *your* needs, but are we caring as much about others as ourselves? "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." With this loving beyond ourselves, we can be stronger against personality problems. And are we obeying God in His peace? "And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body, and be thankful." (Colossians 3:15) A physical-only medical depression can not stop you from spiritually obeying God, unless there is a deeper sin problem also involved. So, is the depression just physical or also deeper?
---Bill_bila5659 on 6/15/09


Speak to your depression in Jesus name and Go onto demon busters and download the prayers for occults and Ancestry curses and get members of the church to pray with you in your home if you cannot find a reasonable answer to why you are depressed.

You can also incorporate depression in those prayers but be mindful it works and you really need a deep spiritual friend in Christ that loves you enough experienced enough to take time and effort see you physiologically mentally and spiritually through because it's load baring and you'll eventually through loads of Healing scripture memo rising be free but you yourself must be mentally physically and spiritually prepared to face your fears with the overcoming power of the word.
---Carla3939 on 6/15/09


Hi,
It wasn't until after the 3rd time that Yahshua/Jesus asked his Father(God), if it possible for this cup to pass me:
(plz, find another way to fulfill your will, other than my torturous death that awaits me)
that he realized that it was his Fathers will for him to go through what was written about him long ago.

Lets remember, he was crying and in so much agony because what he was about to go through, blood came out of his pores.
lets also remember, he grew up seeing the brutal death of the cross, let alone the beating at the examining pole(try to beat the truth out of you)in which Pontius found no fault in him...

As we all know, He was a faithful Son and fulfilled his Fathes will.
YLBD
---YLBD on 6/15/09


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When things go wrong in a person's life, many people react UNJUSTLY and compensate with "schemes" against others and become "sneaky", "naughty", etc. (but you haven't done that, you are JUST...good and right and true).

This world of corruption, hatred, war, cheating schemes, etc. is "uncomfortable" for a Godly spiritual person and will make them "poor in spirit"...

Ecclesiastes 2:17
"So, I hated life".

Matthew 5:3
"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven" (the present/inner kingdom. In Jesus, eternal life starts now).

John 12:25
"he who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life".
---more_excellent_way on 6/15/09


Jazzy-Jess: The absolute good news is as Christians we can't be demon possessed. But, we can ( & often are) demon harrassed & depressed. So, it's in our best interest to stay rooted & grounded in the Word of God (the Bible: Eph. 5:18--20 & 6:11-18, Phil. 4:4-8).

Good reference (Matt. 26:38, Mk 14:34) & advice Cluny. The Bible also shows many others who at one time or another were depressed, i.e., Noah, Elijah, Jeremiah, David, Solomon, Naomi, Peter, Paul, etc. I too know something about depression & it's no day at the beach. :)
---Leon on 6/15/09


"My soul is exceedingly sorrowful, even unto death." Thus Jesus spoke on the night of His Passion. Doesn't sound like He was up on the mount of Feel Good all the time, does it?

There have been several threads about depression here already. Please read them.

I suffer from clinical depression and several other medical conditions. Clinical depression is a PHYSICAL disease, not a moral or spiritual failing.

God meets needs through medicine, too, right?

After all, do you feel guilty when you have to eat?

Join me in taking your necessary meds and thanking God for the provision He makes for us! :-)
---Cluny on 6/15/09


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