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Can acceptance and water baptism guarantee a person that he is save?

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Rod: "ex, those verses are not in the original manuscripts."
---Rod4Him on 11/25/09

How do you know? The "original manuscripts" no longer exist.
---jerry6593 on 12/5/09


---corey on 12/4/09 Speaking in tongues does not prove you have the Holy Spirit. When the Holy Spirit comes upon someone sometimes they get the gift of tongues or teaching or prophesying but these gifts are in operation after the Holy Spirit is not (UPON) you also. He gives you the gifts but you can do evil with them and they become lying signs and wonders.
When you obey the Gospel to repent be baptized in Jesus name for the remission of sins God give seals you with the Holy Spirit of Promise to (LIVE INSIDE OF YOU). The Holy Spirit with dunamus power has to come upon you by seeking the kingdom and receiving exsousia authority.
Not all Christians obtain this place with God.
Many called few chosen.
---exzucuh on 12/5/09


No! It is very simple.. First of all there as no such thing as "accepting JESUS as your personal savior" never written in the Bible. ACTS 2:38 tells sinner what they must do to be saved. Repent! not "accept" Jesus, Be Baptized! Not sprinkled, if you want to, if you feel like it. And you shall Receive the Gift of the Holy Ghost. You will know when you have the Holy Ghost because there is a sign that follows. Speaking in Tongues. Just read ACTS for yourself, not what you have learned or what you have been taught. Just read the entire book (for yourself) and see if you don't come to the same conclusion. God is not the author of Confusion. The Devil is!!
---corey on 12/4/09


You can reply in rebellion but you cannot escape the judgment of God.
---exzucuh on 12/3/09


i salute water baptism,but water is not the answer to our adamic nature(our hearts and minds)jesus knew they had all been water baptised ,when he warned them if i wash you not you will l have no part with me,when he washed their feet it was symbolic of the what the word does to our hearts and minds,its our hearts and minds that need washing,if our hearts are clean we are clean throughout.member david prayed create in me a clean heart and a right spirit,jesus said out of the hearts of man proceeds all manner of evil,and the things that proceeds from the heart of man is what defiles him,and the living word is the blood b/c jesus was the living word made flesh and blood.unto him that has washed us from our sins in his own blood/word rev 1v5.
---alex on 12/2/09




Acts 1: 23. And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias. i didn't read any other names, but these two, and only one got the vote, to do the great commission of mk. 16, which will be completed but not in this dispensation. gal.2:9 "And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship, that we should go unto the heathen,(gentile) and they unto the circumcision. 1 cor 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, (and i don't think you can find where he sent you to baptize)
---michael_e on 11/29/09


Alot of personal thoughts, without scripture backup. the antichrist is a counterfit,you could compare to a good and counterfit bill, without serious study you can't see the difference. "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." 2 tim 2:15
---michael_e on 11/29/09


--michael_e on 11/29/09 I have done all those things and more because Jesus prophecied we would do greater things through him. God has used me to raise the dead cast out devils heal the sick open blinded eyes. I take up serpents every day when I deal with people like you.I have had miracles in my life that if I told you you would scoff and make fun of them so I will not waste them on you I only tell people who count them as precious. I do not give God's jewels to be rendered under swines feet.
---Exzucuh on 11/29/09


Antichrist
1.Does not believe! That Jesus is the Son of God
2.Does not believe! That the Father is God alone
3.Does not believe the word of Christ
4.Does not obey the Gospel by being baptized in Jesus name for the remission of sins.
5.Does not believe in the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
6.Does not have or believe in the Holy Spirit but has the spirit of the world.
7.Does not produce the fruit of the Spirit, but the fruit of Carnality.
8.Does not have the evidence of the Spirit which is the power of grace in their life to live for God and forgiveness to others.
9.Antichrist always discredits the bible
10. The Antichrist always has a salvation that replaces or adds to the blood of Jesus
---exzucuh on 11/29/09


ex, you are always quoting Mk. 16:15,16. but you always leave out mk 16:14 when he refers to the 11. and vs 15 starts "he said to them" you were not them. I f you were you would go ahead and quote 17 and 18 and claim them as yours, if you were one of them you could handle snakes. vs 18 says "they shall take up serpents" not if they do. did you go into all the world? no. did you speak with a new tongue? maybe you thought you did. did you take up serpents or drink any deadly thing? no lay hands on the sick and they recovered? maybe sometimes. ex if you haven't done all these things, maybe they weren't for you or you have failed
---michael_e on 11/29/09




Is there any scripture where any of the disciples got baptized. If it was that important, I'd think that scripture would record each of the disciples/apostles baptisms.
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True Christians follow EXAMPLES of Christ as did Apostles ...1Pet 2:21

True Christians understand if Christ did something he did it as an EXAMPLE for his faithful this included his Apostles

Christ was baptized reasoning of men claim baptism is irrelevant due to scripture neglecting to record Apostles baptism contradicting 1Pet 2:21

One must repent to God of their former sinful life ...water from baptism washes away past sins

it is the first step in lifetime process of overcoming to receive the inheritance of the GIFT salvation
---Rhonda on 11/27/09


Antichrist

1.Does not believe! That Jesus is the Son of God
2.Does not believe! That the Father is God alone
3.Does not believe the word of Christ
4.Does not obey the Gospel by being baptized in Jesus name for the remission of sins.
5.Does not believe in the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
6.Does not have or believe in the Holy Spirit but has the spirit of the world.
7.Does not produce the fruit of the Spirit, but the fruit of Carnality.
8.Does not have the evidence of the Spirit which is the power of grace in their life to live for God and forgiveness to others.
9.Antichrist always discredits the bible and perverts the Gospel to cover sin with false doctrine.

---exzucuh on 11/26/09


ex, I probably am not understanding your antagonistic position.

Maybe you had a typo when you said,"Not in original Antichrist manuscripts but they were translated from Greek to English."

The original manuscripts are "Antichrist?"

However, I assume you must be casting out demons, picking up deadly snakes, and healing the sick. If you are not, then according to Mark 16:16-18, you must be an unbeliever.

Salvation is in Christ Jesus. Believers and followers of Christ display His patience, grace, and love for one another.
---Rod4Him on 11/26/09


Not in original Antichrist manuscripts but they were translated from Greek to English.
All Antichrist try to discredit the validity of the Bible. If they can take it's truth away, they can teach their frog doctrine. Croaking out their message of the night and luring their converts by sensual carnal sounds that please the flesh. Doctrines of devils the spirits of darkness.

Revelation 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
---exzucuh on 11/26/09


ex, those verses are not in the original manuscripts.
---Rod4Him on 11/25/09


Mark 16:15-16 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, but he that believeth not shall be damned.

People that do not obey the Gospel are damned.
Jesus said it. Those that do not agree with Jesus are Antichrist.
---exzucuh on 11/25/09


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Salvation is in Christ. John the Baptist baptized with water, Jesus baptizes with the Holy Spirit.

If people trust in baptisim for salvation, that is a dangerous postition, realizing that Christ sees the heart.

When I come to God the Father, it is on the basis of what Christ did, not on some physical thing that I did.

Is there any scripture where any of the disciples got baptized. If it was that important, I'd think that scripture would record each of the disciples/apostles baptisms.
---Rod4Him on 11/25/09


Not for you michael e, because you have no faith you are a gainsayer a person that destroys the gospel by destroying faith of the little ones. Jesus said it would be better if a mill stone was tied around the neck of people who destroy the faith of babes in Christ
than what he will do to you for perverting his Gospel.
Revelation 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation, and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
---exzucuh on 11/25/09


water baptism can't guarantee any thing When you accept what Christ accomplished for you with cross, death burial and ressurectuion. The baptism that guarantees salvation is when the Holy Spirit baptizes you into the body Of Christ I cor 12:13
---michael_e on 11/24/09


if they would hear with their ears and understand with their hearts and convert
---alex

What happens if they do not convert? does the word heal them? The problem is you read the word but you miss the meaning of it because you do not see that there is a key that opens the door to the kingdom. You talk about what the kingdom is about but without the key you are locked out. Faith is not hearing and doing nothing you have to act on the word. If God gives you his word and you hide it in the ground as did the servant hid his talent you will be judged with the unbelievers.
---exzucuh on 11/24/09


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ex. you do greatly err.the living word cannot return unto god void.the worlds were framed by the word of god, written word is paper and ink but the living word is spirit and life(god), faith comed by hearing the living word, new birth comes by hearing the word,the kingdom comes by hearing the word,salvation comes by hearing the word, jesus was the living word made flesh and blood.the 1 true baptism comes by hearing the word,the gospel is not the written word but the living word,christ jesus,today if you will hear his voice/life, harden not your hearts, if they would hear with their ears and understand with their hearts and convert then will i heal them.god is more them paper and ink, he is spirit and life,eternal life in only in living word
---alex on 11/24/09


as with most blogs very little scripture to back up sometime wrong thoughts.
peter, james and john, apostles to the circumcision. paul, apostle to the uncircumcision. gal.2:7.But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter, 8.(For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)9. And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship, that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
---michael_e on 11/24/09


Rom.3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds (works) of the law.
Rom 4:5. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith (not his works) is counted for righteousness. Gal 3 etc. etc.
---michael_e on 11/23/09

Romams is talking about Nomos ritualistic religious works. These works of Judaism were done away because they were replaced by God with the works of salvation, the obeying of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. James is not speaking of nomos works or mans laws but the LAW OF THE SPIRIT the LAW OF LIBERTY.
---exzucuh on 11/24/09


There is two kinds of Law Entole the Moral Law and Nomos ritualistic law, the tradition of men.
Mark 7:8 For laying aside the (ENTOLAY)commandment of God, ye hold the (NOMOS)tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
The word Law was not translated from Greek to English to distinguish the difference in Ritualistic Judaism and the Moral Law of God Christians are still under the Moral Law of God,that is if they sin they are Judged by It.
But if they Live By the Law of Liberty/Spirit they are free of that Judgment. The same as Abraham was. He heard God and obeyed.
---exzucuh on 11/24/09


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James 2:20.."faith without works is dead"
James 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, TO THE TWELVE TRIBES (not to you) which are scattered abroad, greeting.
Rom.3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds (works) of the law.
Rom 4:5. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith (not his works) is counted for righteousness. Gal 3 etc. etc.
---michael_e on 11/23/09


Nope1 it does not happen like that people that's all devil talk, sending people to hell talk. Just because Jesus spoke to some one that does not make them clean, He died for the whole world, but the whole world is lost if they still won't obey his Gospel. His word is useless if it is not acted upon, faith without works is as dead as the gospel that you people are preaching. the Spirit of God will do nothing for you if you do not have it and you cannot get it without obeying the Gospel. His word can only make you clean if you live by it and if you do, you will obey it to be baptized
and if you don't you will be damned.
---exzucuh on 11/23/09


water baptism is fine but god has a better baptism in mine and that is hearing his voice/the word.the living word,jesus says you are clean by the WORD i have spoken unto you abide in me and i in you,all the deciples had been water baptised,but jesus warned them if i WASH you not you will have NO part with me,the footwashing passsage speaks volumes of divine baptism,which is thE washing of the water of the word as eph 5 speaks about,the thief on the cross heard his voice/WORD,our hearts and minds can only be cleaned by his word,peter says he was born again by hearing his word/seed,its the seed of the sower,word of god that brings about a heavenly birth,it requires a seed for a birth,not h20
---alex on 11/23/09


No, water baptism is a sign or symbol of cleansing or purification of being washed by the blood of Christ and having new life in Him, only being born again of the Holy Spirit assures us of eternal life with Him.
---Tony on 11/22/09


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exzuch i wrote Paul's words. You told me what you think he meant.
Ehp.4:5 "One Lord, one faith, one baptism"
I Cor.12:13 "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free, and have been all made to drink into one Spirit." what he say is we are baptized into one body, by one Spirit, not one of Paul's converts or some preacher.
---michael_e on 11/22/09


Baptism does not wash away sins. It is just water.
ONLY the blood of JESUS cleanses sins
---june on 11/22/09


---michael_e on 11/21/09 You read what Paul said about baptism and saw what he did, Jesus himself did not baptize but he made his disciples do it. But Paul did baptize people the bible says he did.
1 Corinthians 1:16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
What Paul meant was that there were people to do baptism, his calling was to preach the Gospel. He preached baptism and deacons would baptize the converts. That is all he meant by that.
---exzucuh on 11/21/09


Romans 6:2-5 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

Paul made it very clear the importance of Baptism, without it you cannot overcome sin or be resurrected. You will not be saved!
---exzucuh on 11/21/09


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may have, should have, could have, doesn't anybody study anymore?
John's baptism not good enough for Paul?
Paul lists everyone he might have baptized.
He says he was not sent to baptise, if water baptism was so important, why would the apostle to the Gentiles, make such a statement I Cor.1:14 "I thank God I baptized none of you but Crispus and Gaius"
One baptism was important to Paul I Cor.12:13 "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body,(not water) whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free, and have been all made to drink into one Spirit."
---michael_e on 11/21/09


Again, the thief on the cross may have already been water baptized long before being hung up on a cross, just as Jesus was also baptized long before he was hung up.
---Eloy on 11/21/09


Dan, do not try too hard to dis water baptism when Christ Commands water baptism to be done, or perhaps there was a drop of water that fell from heaven upon the thief's head which constituted his baptism. As Christ was baptized before nailed to the waterless wood, so too the thief may have been baptized before being nailed to waterless wood.
---Eloy on 11/21/09


Acts 19:3-5 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

Paul did not accept Johns baptism and re baptized all his disciples in Jesus Name.
This shows how important Paul considered Baptism. He never preached Baptism does not matter.
---exzucuh on 11/20/09


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Does anybody know how many baptisms are in Matt.3:11? If there is more than one than why does Epehsians 4:5 say ther is one?

Why in Acts 2:38 does Peter say "repent and be baptised" Then, why didn't Paul say in Acts 16:31 "Repent and be baptised"? Instead he said, "believe" (believe what) ref I Cor.15:1-4, What the Apostle calls "my gospel"
---michael_e. on 11/20/09


Not to discourage baptism, but it is not ours to say what the requirements are.

Do you remember Luke 23 at the crucifixion He said to a common criminal "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise". It is doubtful that the man was baptised by water.
---Dan1724 on 11/20/09

WE are commanded to preach the Gospel and baptism is part of that Gospel. Jesus will not accept lip service Christians he said work while it is day night is coming when no man can work. The night he was speaking of is our day when people like you pervert the gospel.
---exzucuh on 11/20/09


It is very foolish to gamble your salvation on speculation and opinion, there is a 50% chance that the thief on the cross was baptized, baptism was the thing of the Day everyone was going to John, whole cities were participating.
Jesus's disciples had been baptizing for 3 years all over Israel. Just because he was a thief does not mean he was not baptized our prisons are full of baptist. Salvation is to those that believe the Gospel The Gospel is that God sent his Son for our sin and faith is believing it obeying God to be baptized in Jesus name for the remission of your sins, then God will give you his Holy Spirit. Baptism puts sin in remission.
---exzucuh on 11/20/09


Not to discourage baptism, but it is not ours to say what the requirements are.

Do you remember Luke 23 at the crucifixion He said to a common criminal "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise". It is doubtful that the man was baptised by water.
---Dan1724 on 11/20/09


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Trey, It is God's Word in me that brings you the amazement.
---Eloy on 11/20/09


You people that hate and discredit the gospel
by changing the message are actually helping the Antichrist spirit. You have believed the doctrine of devils that comes out of the mouth of the Dragon/false Prophet and the beast. The frog message croaking your lies of darkness luring others into your curse of damnation.

Acts 2:37-38 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
---exzucuh on 11/19/09


Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, but he that believeth not shall be damned.

If you believe then you will be baptized if you are baptized and you don't believe you will be wet. If you are not baptized you are not buried with him in death therefore you will not be raised with him to eternal life.
And you will not be a new creature.
---exzucuh on 11/19/09


Eloy, you never cease to amaze me with the stuff that you come up with.......??????????
---trey on 11/19/09


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eloy, did you not read Mk 16:14? How many did Christ address? Who was Peter speaking to in Acts 2. If you are a member of the tribe of Judah, I'm pleased to meet you, for I'm a member of the Body of Christ
---michael on 11/19/09


Michael, there are 12 tribes, and 12 apostles, not 11. And I am from the seed of Jesus, of the tribe of Judah.
---Eloy on 11/19/09


eloy i understand your traditional treatment of scripture. read Mt.28:16-20 Mk.16:14-18 Acts 2:36-38 please tell me which of the 11 or what part of the house of Israel are you?
---michael on 11/19/09


Michael, you pose a lot of questions, and I will give you one answer. Jesus commands to be water baptized in his name, therefore to disobey his commandment leaves the disobedient outside of salvation and not inside, for there is no kingdom of heaven for the disobedient.
---Eloy on 11/19/09


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1Pe3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

Baptism doesn't save us eternally. Baptism is an outward show of what the Holy Ghost has done on the inside. It is a picture of the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. It is a statement to the world that we are taking up our cross and following Christ.

By the way, we are saved by grace.
Ro11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
---trey on 11/18/09


to eloy, absolutely Jesus was baptised " being about thirty years of age" Why thirty? He was also circumcised the eighth day. What people circumcised on the 8th day?
Who baptised Him, and who was John baptising BEFORE Jesus? Now Mk 16:15-18 which part of these passages, can you agree with also read Mk 16:14 and tell me which of these 11 are you
---michael on 11/18/09


Jesus got WATER BAPTIZED, and in the great commission he Commands others to do likewise: "Go all you into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature, whom obeys and is baptized will be saved, but whom not obeys will be condemned. While Peter yet spoke these words the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. And the circumcised with Peter were astonished for they even heard the Gentiles speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, CAN ANY MAN FORBID WATER, THAT THESE SHOULD NOT BE BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF THE LORD." Mark 16:15,16+ Acts 10:44-48.
---Eloy on 11/18/09


Every time baptism is mentioned, people say water. If water baptism is so essential today, why did the apostle Paul say in Eph 4:3 "one Baptism" And in I Cor.1:17 "Christ sent me not to baptize" if he was sent not to baptize what "one baptism is he talking about? Matt 3:11 speaks of several baptisms, did Paul pick one of these to call "One Baptism" ? Did Israel get wet in I Cor. 10:2 when "all were baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea"? I believe if you study I Cor.12:13 the one doing the baptizing today is not a man and he is not putting anyone under water. Baptism is essential for salvation but it isn't water
---Michael on 11/17/09


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Doers are saved, and not hearers only. "Blessed that servant, whom his Lord when he comes will find so doing." Matthew 24:46.
---Eloy on 11/15/09


Baptism is not essential to salvation, but it is an act of obedience to Jesus. Baptism by immersion signifies the death to the old man and the raising up to new life in Jesus. It is a beautiful and meaningful experience. After Jesus' baptism, the dove that lit upon Him signified the Holy Spirit. But since Jesus had all of the Spirit of God already in Him, this sign was for us. The Holy Spirit came to live in me as I came up from the baptismal waters. And He has been with me for all the years since.
---Sandra on 11/15/09


It's really a shame that christians today only stop at water baptism.
---Steveng on 11/14/09


larry: it appears that you think there is one anti-Christ. The Apostle John told us there were many anti-Christs 1900 years ago. If there were many of them 1900 years ago then, certainly, there are more now. And true Christians do not continue in deliberate sins, Heb 10, 1Jn 3. The Apostle John wrote: "Whosoever is begotten of God doeth no sin because His Seed abideth in him and he cannot sin because he is begotten of God. In this the children of God are manifest and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not Righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother." What Love is this? Read Jn 13-17 about God's definition of Love. And, how are we begottem of God? I am not asking because i do not know. I know. Do you?
---anne on 11/14/09


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Yes, as long as that person repents when they sin, and they don't worship anti-christ when he is here on earth INSTEAD OF Christ. (Anti-Christ, means: Instead of Christ.
---larry on 10/12/09


To "more excellent way". You understand that the Water is the Water of Life, Living Water! It is! You quote from 1Jn 5 but there are 3 that testify the Name, the Name of Mt 28:18-20 that we must be baptized with and into, the Name that we must call upon to be saved, Ac 2, Ac 22. Study baptisms and Righteousness, especially in Matthew and Romans. Seek first the Righteousness that is revealed in the Gospel for us to have Faith in, Mt 6:33a, Ro 1:16-25.
---anne_robare on 10/11/09


Jesus did not come by BLOOD ONLY...

1 John 5:6
"He came by WATER AND blood".

When did "rivers of" H2O ever flow out of a Christian? (share your experience if this happened to you)....

John 7:38
"shall flow rivers...".

John 4:14
"but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst".

An 'inner temple' will have an inner understanding of this (and will have a love devotion), otherwise there will only be an intellectual understanding of "con-TEXT".
---more_excellent_way on 10/10/09


Jesus Is The Door to His Salvation Plan, Mark 16 v 16. He that believeth & is baptized
shall be saved, it does Not say that your saved first & then you get baptiized. When men & women say you dont have to be baptized to be saved then your calling Jesus a liar & you are trying to get into heaven like a thief & a robber. It's the same same when Man teaches once saved always saved - easy believism - repeat aft me - the sinners prayer & the such like, these trinity
teachings are False, & are trying to steal their way into heaven without going through The Door which Is Jesus Christ & His Salvation Plan, Acts 2 v's 37-41 which Fulfils Matt 28 v's 19-20.
---Lawrence on 8/27/09


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Baptism does not save you. To many christians say it does, plenty were filled with the Ruach Ha Kadesh without being baptized first. I love how many people make baptism so important while saying the commandments are gone.
---wayne on 8/26/09


There is only ONE way to be saved, that ONE is JESUS. We must all turn to HIM(repentance). Its NOT us turning from sin, it us turning to HIM who takes sin away.
..Jesus Christ is the guarantee...
---duane on 7/31/09


Water baptism does NOT save - it is an outward expression of an inward working. Salvation is ONLY through repentance of sins and acceptance of Jesus as Lord.
---Leslie on 7/30/09


All the verse MOST excelantway gave are all out of context.
---batieste on 7/28/09


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No repent be baptized to be given power of Holy Spirit who guides to obey

repentance is for the former sinful life

Christ paid the penalty of death on the cross and his blood reconciles us to The Father

the GIFT of Gods Holy Spirit brings power to live as Christ lived ..there are no guarantee's because we will not live a perfect life as Christ did ...it is our work to continue to overcome Rev 2:26, 3:21

Overcoming is a continuous process not one-time lip service to "accept Jesus in your heart" Matt 15:8
---Rhonda on 7/24/09


There is no such thing as unconditional salvation. If there was you could prove it, and you should know by now if you have been on christianet a long time that it has never been proven and never will. What Jesus did on the Cross provides salvation to those who are obedient to the Gospel. If it were not so then there would be no purpose to preaching and no need for the Church. We would just automatically be saved because Jesus paid the price for the whole world. He did die for the sin of the world but his ministry is the ministry of reconciliation, which means the one who is reconciled must accept the terms of the contract before the contract is in effect. Also they must not break the contract or it is made void.
---exzucuh on 7/23/09


The guarantee is to except The Lord Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, to repent of your sins. In Mark Ch.16 verse 16,Jesus said
"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved,but he that believeth not shall be damned.
---LiQuita on 7/22/09


The water that flowed from Christ's side at the cross will consecrate/baptize a true believer (inner temple) to the outer temple (Christ's body). The spiritual baptism of "living water" is the only baptism we need so that we "neither thirst" (Revelation 7:16).

Ephesians 4:5
"one lord, one faith, one baptism".

John 7:38
"He who believes in me,...'Out of his heart shall flow rivers of living water.'"

1 John 5:6
"came by water and blood".

The "guarantee" comes from having the "fruit of light" (Ephesians 5:8) and a true "heartbreak" love for God (love devotion) that is based on "the greatest of these" (1 Corin. 13:13).
---more_excellent_way on 7/22/09


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Have you not read the parable of The Sower? The seeds that fell on the rocks germinated and whithered away in the sun. Some people only know God, but deny his power. These are the ones that Jesus rejected just because they say "Lord, Lord."

The only way to keep your faith alive is to DO the works. For without works, your faith is dead. Do not be only hearers of the word, but doers, also. Do the two commandments that Jesus spoke of. Also, do an online KJV bible search for "one another," "each other," and "encourag" because living a christian life is a 24/7 lifestyle - not a once a week pep talk dished out by denominational "churches."
---Steveng on 7/22/09


Must a person be baptized to be saved. Please consider Acts 10:44-48,
" 44-While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

45-And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

46-For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

47-Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

48-And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days."

In these verses that idea seems to be repudiated!!

---mima on 7/22/09


Read Acts 11 and the telling of Peter's visit to the Gentiles and how the Holy Spirit was passed.

"John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit." Acts 11:16

It appears to me that if you are offered a chance to accept the Holy Spirit, from someone who actually has the Holy Spirit, then you just have to accept it.

But realize there is far more work to be done than just acceptance. You have to work at it the rest of your life.

Jesus told the adulterous, LEAVE YOUR LIFE OF SIN.

Jesus did not specify when to leave it, but you must leave it. So that might mean you need to make noticeable steps to leave it.
---stephen on 7/22/09


ST.John 3:5 except a man be born of the water and the spirit he can not enter heaven.
There is no way around that.
Nicodemus acknowledge that Jesus was went from God. was he saved ? No. Jesus said to him except a man be born of the water and the spirit he can not enter heaven.

Paul came across John's disciples in Acts 19:1-6, he asked them if they have received the holy spirit yet.

Most people believe excepting God in your heart automatically gives you the holy spirit. No.

Paul proves that wrong

Read Act 2:1-4, Acts10:45-. that's how the Apostles and the Gentiles received the holy spirit. And since we are in the covenant of Grace like they were at the time we receive it the same way.
---batieste on 7/21/09


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Mark 16 v 16. Acts 2 v's 37-41 Fulfills Matt 28 v's 19-20. NO one found in scriptures of any one being baptized in the titles Father-Son & Holy Ghost. Colo 3 v 17 & The Name of The Lord Is Jesus Christ.
The man constantine when he embraced a type of chrtianity that devised r-catholocism (when this light came to him 2nd Cor 11 v's 14-15)started the father-son & holy spirit baptism,because did Not want to line up to The Truth of God's Church being born on the day of Pentecost.
---Lawrence on 7/20/09


"He that believes and is baptized shall be saved. John preached the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins." But made it clear that "he that comes after me is mightier than I,..He shall baptize you with the Holy Spirit.. [and] that they should believe on Him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts. Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession,.. [For] The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs, heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ." Acknowledging and relying upon that, is our guarantee of salvation.
---Josef on 7/19/09


I need to submit to God, at every moment, for whatever God wants to do with me. Everything that God does with me is essential. How Jesus says to love, in the Sermon on the Mount > "For if you love those who love you, what reward have you?" (in Matthew 5:46) People lose marriages, because they only love those who love them. I can't be pontifical, only preaching on others, and expect to be saved.

"Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith." (in 2 Corinthians 13:5) I would say this means that we who are saved should not take for granted, but keep on examining if we are in "faith working through love" (Galatians 5:6).
---Bill_bila5659 on 7/19/09


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