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Remarried In Constant Adultery

Do remarried people live in constant adultery?

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catherine:

You said: And by the way: Sexual sins are the most grievous of all sins to God.

Where did you get this idea? Can you cite chapter and verse? It is curious, however, that I have heard this attitude in many evangelical circles, but I have no idea where they get it from.

It this were true, adultery would be worse than murder, and since divorce is equivalent to adultery, divorce would be worse than murder.

Do you seriously believe that a man is better off killing his wife than divorcing her? Or that a serial divorcee (like Zsa Zsa Gabor) is much worse than a serial killer (like Ted Bundy)? Which would you rather have as your neighbor?
---StrongAxe on 11/8/10


I am sure it has merit. In any case, my answer stands.
---catherine on 11/8/10


Catherine ... "And by the way: Sexual sins are the most grievous of all sins to God"

Where does the BIble say this?
---alan8566_of_UK on 11/8/10


Catherine
I like your comments.
YOU're unsuported point that sexual sin is the worst may lack merit.



There is an intercourse so profound and vile that a person becomes an enemy of God by association.
Jam 4:4 "Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God."
"the friendship" philia - used only once

"kosmos" translated "world" the same world that God so loved.

Jhn 3:16 "For God so loved the world(kosmos), that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
---jhonny on 11/8/10


To divorce and remarry is adultery Mark10:11,12. Jesus said in Matt19, it is because of hardness of heart that people go for divorce. But we do see an exception in 1Cor7 that we are not bound to an unbelieving partner if they decide to leave.

The great majority of divorces are due to hardness of heart, and clearly God is not going to reward this with a blessing. Those in a marriage of adultery will still be in adultery as there is no scripture to say it will ever change. But this adultery is not going to affect their salvation. We are saved by grace, not works.
---Haz27 on 7/5/10




Well, lets see. I have to take the time to look up a Scripture to prove what God is about to tell me. Oh forget it....The answer is yes, if you are lost. No forgiveness for any sin as long as you remain lost this includes adultery. And by the way: Sexual sins are the most grievous of all sins to God. However, Once you are saved and forgiven through His mighty Blood, then you are forgiven. This never means that you are free to go out and do it again, and expect God to come a running and forgive you....Yes, a few people will make it to heaven++
---catherine on 7/4/10


Divorce is a contract. A commercial fiction. An offer, requires permission. Takes both parties to make it real.

...and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.

But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or sister is not under bondage in such cases. God hath called us to peace.
---jhonny on 7/4/10


But by grace go I. I could've very easily been divorced in my first year of marriage.I was saved at the time ( I was just a babe in Christ).Not that it excuses my lack of comittment to Christ or my husband.That's right in a marriage there are three,man, wife and most importantly God.God instituted marriage with Adam and Eve.It says what God hath joined together let no man put assunder.Don't forget we are here a short time God will take His children home,we can't change His ways to fit our society.If God says til death God means til death.Doesn't God say I change not?
---somme8743 on 7/3/10


Remarried people do not live in constant adultery, that theology doesn't work in real life. Jesus was saying that the act of divorcing a spouse (especially in order to legally marry someone else) is adultery, in the sense of treachery. Many will try to assert that 'commits adultery' is in a continuous present tense, but it is not and cannot be, in line with the 'divorces' and 'marries' (neither of those are continuous tenses 'keeps on divorcing' 'keeps on marrying'!)
---Yvonne on 7/2/10


It is amazing the people Jesus saves. No matter what you have done when you were lost, when you are saved all is forgiven, however, God expects you to follow Him after you are saved. As long as you are lost you do not need to worry about such things, because to the lost man he feels he can do no sin. They don't even know that they are living in sin, because to the lost man there's no God, or a hell, or a judgment day, or a heaven. If you are lost you are in a sense an atheist.
---catherine on 3/16/10




Larry, I do agree with your last statement: "Thank God for His grace over our messy lives" but I must take issue with the "divorce is always wrong" statement. My prior marriage ended because of abuse and adultery on the part of the ex. I was not wrong to divorce him. I had nearly lost my mind from the pain. Now I have a good life and am about to re-marry a most wonderful and loving man. :)
---Mary on 3/12/10


Mima, Mary, I understand what you mean, it is just that I have always felt something was not right.... Of course now I have no right (or reason) to leave my current wife, but Mima, if it had been (by my ex) a request for us to just separate, I (hope) I would not move for divorce. I did not then desire divorce, nor do I now, but still, I don't like it. Your comment about adultery from Matt 5:28 is certainly true, it's just that that looking lustfully can be repented of, while it's not so easy to repent of being married!
---peter3594 on 3/12/10


Man is so sinful he must constantly negotiate scripture to accomodate his mess of everything.
Divorce is always wrong though in some instances allowed and I can't find anywhere where remarriage is endorsed. The answer is yes.

We say we can't live the rest of whatever single, so we declare the situation unfair, claim God's forgiveness and go ahead and do what we want to do because the heart wants what it wants. Many who are divorced, mostly women, consider singleness punishment and can't imagine God handing out such an undeserved sentence. Therefore we are free to do whatever.
Thank God for his grace over our messy lives.
---larry on 3/11/10


Hi Peter, your best bet is to just focus on the marriage you have now. The woman you are married to now is the one you need to focus on--God and her. The ex is the past.
---Mary on 3/11/10


---peter3594 the reason I answered you because your question or ones pertaining to divorce has been ask in counseling more than any other.
Your situation, from what you have stated, seems to be a case of abandonment which of course is grounds for divorce.
Beyond that is my contention that all heterosexual adults are guilty of adultery. I based that contention on Matthew 5:28," But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."
I also believe that all who come to Christ get that sin forgiven also!!!
---mima on 3/11/10


---peter3594 the reason I answered you because your question or ones pertaining to divorce has been ask in counseling more than any other.
Your situation, from what you have stated, seems to be a case of abandonment which of course is grounds for divorce.
Beyond that is my contention that all heterosexual adults are guilty of adultery. I based that contention on Matthew 5:28," But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."
I also believe that all who come to Christ at that sin forgiven also!!!
---mima on 3/11/10


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Mima, thank you for your reply... I have always wondered: if my ex wife divorces me because she is depressed (not a permitted reason), and goes against the statements in Matthew, though she is a Christian (or at least says she is, but I will not argue there with her), should I take the comments from Corinthians, about 'if the spouse leaves you' (which is listed an only for unfeleiving spouses, because Paul took it that no beleiver would leave), or go with the assumption that as a Christian I should remain unmarried hoping that she will return to me. I remarried, but was that wrong?
---peter3594 on 3/11/10


---peter3594

In first John 9:2 we have this statement,

"And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."

Surely your marriage and remarriage and the adultery resulting there from is covered in "the sins of the whole world". When you accepted the Lord Jesus Christ he forgave all your sins past, present, and future. If this statement is not correct exactly when is he coming back to pay and forgive you your sins? Be encouraged rejoice in the mercies of God and realize you have been forgiven!!!
---mima on 3/10/10


I have wordered the same thing... My wife divorced me when she was deeply depressed, 9 years ago, and 5 years later I did remarry, and I still do not know what I should have done. I repent of having married my first wife, but now I do not know what to do. Anyone give me advice?
---peter3594 on 3/10/10


To the many people who misinterpret scripture and believe no matter what sin they are engaged in they are forgiven---you have been listening to misguiding evangelists who misuse scripture in the same way. You cannot take excerpts and tag your own meaning to suit your situation. The Word of God IS CLEAR in its entirety. Yes---ALL SINS ARE FORGIVEN! IF, and ONLY IF, you have repented (turned away from) the sin. If you have the Lord truly in your heart you have no heart for sin. If you have put away your husband and are with another you may word it however you want, but it's still adultery
---Edward on 2/14/10


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There is no contradiction in scripture,and there is no loophole.

JESUS said for women: mark 10:12And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits ADULTERY Romans 7:3 If she marries another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an "ADULTERESS". 1 Corinthians 7:10 ..it is commanded by god that she must remain unmarried or else be RECONCILED. For MEN: Matthew 19:9 anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits ADULTERY. Proverbs 6:32 A man who commits ADULTERY .. DESTROYS himself. Corinthians 6:9.. the wicked including adulterers will not inherit the kingdom of God-
---wal_rev on 10/26/09


wal-rev -**Any remarriage other than this is adultery, ...

So you agree then that one may re-marry if his wife commits adultery.

In OT times, the woman that committed adultery was to be stoned, thus permitting the man to be single and thus re-marry.

I sense that one of your problems is that you fail to interpret scripture with scripture. You can do what Jesus stated in Mark and ignore what He stated in Matthew. Nor can you reject what the Spirit of Jesus is saying through St. Paul.

And I agree it is those who cry adultery are the ones who probably have a fear their own marriage may fall apart.
---lee on 10/25/09


I agree with---Rebecca_D . The only difference is I would take it all one way from this statement,"Because once a person comes to God and accepts him and invite him into your heart and asks for forgiveness, then whatever we've done in the PAST, is forgiven. To,"Because once a person comes to God and accepts him and invite him into your heart and asks for forgiveness, then whatever we've done our will do, is forgiven."
---mima on 10/25/09


The bible seems to teach that. My view is like Paul said, it is better to marry that to burn. If you do marry, do you think God would want you to get a divorce? I think not. God knows our needs and there may be consequences to remarrying but I have seen God bless a 2nd marriage that supposedly was not allowed and they spent 25 years on the mission field in Africa and have always been happy and focused on God. It is the ones who never experienced divorce who preach the adultry side.
---Chris on 10/25/09


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Yes, We are to consider all the scripture. And, I believe gods word is correct. There is only one exception and biblical reason for divorce. That is only for a man. And, god makes that clear - this does not apply to women.

Matthew 5:32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.

Any remarriage other than this is adultery, and any woman of god knows gods word. Remarriage is adultery and sin. Men are warned not to fall for her (woman who has left the husband of her youth), because her feet lead to the grave and death (proverbs) and she brings a man to live in adultery (New Testiment). Truth.
---wal_rev on 10/25/09


I stand on the word of god, it is a rock - not a stumbling block.

Again,JESUS DEFINES ADULTERY mark 10:12And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits ADULTERY11"Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman COMMITS ADULTERY against her.Romans 7:3 So then, if she marries another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an ADULTERESS. 1 Corinthians 7:10 A wife must not separate from her husband. 11But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be RECONCILED to her husband.

WARNING - Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor ADULTERERS....

---wal_rev on 10/25/09


No. The first time I was married, I was a sinner, as well as my (ex) husband. He cheated on me, I found someone else before my divorce was final. (My husband now). I was a sinner then, as well as the man I married. I believe that once we went to that alter to accept Christ in our heats, that erased our past. Meaning God forgave us from all the wrong doings that we have done in our past. So if someone here, tells me different, I would have to beg the differ. Because once a person comes to God and accepts him and invite him into your heart and asks for forgiveness, then whatever we've done in the past, is forgiven.
---Rebecca_D on 10/24/09


Mt. 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

Jesus did recognize divorce can be permitted under certain circumstances. And if divorce dissolves the marriage, then the parties are no longer married.

While the record does not say anything about re-marriage of either party, it can be assumed that such is permitted.

Wal-rev has an argument with God's ministers who do re-marry those who are divorced.

His judgment therefore is against the church and it doctrine that there can be forgiveness and restoration for those who would repent.
---lee on 10/24/09


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wal-rev....Yes we can all see that you truly believe that if one divorces for any reason and then re-marries, there can be no forgiveness of sins. I guess your Jesus simply did not bleed enough on the Cross.

And those who claim a restoration and blessing from the Lord upon repentance are liars.

Romans 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another mans servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

You can have your viewpoint and I will not not waste my time trying to discuss this issue with you as you come across as nothing less than a modern day Pharisees, eager to condemn those who truly love the Lord.
---lee on 10/24/09


Walrev, Jesus says in Matthew that divorce is only acceptable when one spouse has committed fornication.
So, you accept what is said in Mark but not Matthew?
Or not even what Jesus was discussing in the first place?
How can you know what Jesus is really talking about unless you consider ALL scripture?
You are very bias and have a hard heart.
---miche3754 on 10/24/09


No. Some remarried people are holy, and some remarried people are unholy.
---Eloy on 10/24/09


The only view point is christs. JESUS SAID Mark 10: 12And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits ADULTERY11"Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her." Romans 7:3 So then, if she marries another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an ADULTERESS. 1 Corinthians 7:10 To the married I give this COMMAND (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be RECONCILED to her husband. 1 John 2:4 The man who says, "I know him," but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. This is crystal clear and there is no ambiguity.
---wal_rev on 10/23/09


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wal-rev, everyone is entitled to his or her own viewpoint on the subject of divorce & re-marriage.

It is unfortunate that scripture could not be more definitive on this subject but the church has over the centuries recognized divorce & re-marriage with the view that repentance of sin restores such to the blessings that God would have for them.

Your judgment is therefore on the church as a whole as well as upon those that come to salvation having been divorced and/or re-married.
---lee on 10/21/09


Lee Yes, also Luke16:18 and Mark10:12
Jesus teaches any woman who divorces her husband and remarries commits adultery. The man who marries this woman also commits adultery. They are not christians, simply because they do not live according to the teachings of christ OR god.



1. The bible states that remarriage is adultery, but for one cause. The intent is to live a life in christ and to please god over man or self.





2. Repentence means a new life, and one is to follow the teachings of christ. Any woman who divorces must remain single or reconcile, if not she chooses adultery.



3. No- in ALL cases any woman who divorces and remarries commits adultery.



4.False prophets.
---wal_rev on 10/20/09


wal-rev = Mt.5:32,19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, commits adultery: and whoso marries her which is put away doth commit adultery.

4 Questions:

Does this scripture address only the intent of one to divorce with the purpose of marrying another?

Secondly, even if one does sin in this matter, does this close the door to repentance and re-marriage?

Thirdly, suppose the woman is the innocent party, is she an adulteress even is she commits no sexual act outside of the marriage?

last, why do ministers from fundamentalistic churches willingly re-marry those who have been divorced?
---lee on 10/20/09


Yes the do. According to the word of god - any woman who divorces her husband and remarries another man commits adultery. Adultery leads to spiritual death (also for the man who lays with her - book of proverbs) and adulterers will NOT inherit the kingdom. ..this means they are NOT christians - simply because they do not live by or believe the words of christ- our savior. The same goes for any man who divorces AND remarries but for the cause of his wifes infidelity... . God talks of these individuals as weeds, blemishes, whitewashed tombs. We are to keep ourselves pure and not touch any unclean thing.
---wal_rev on 10/20/09


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it isnt complicated at all...we must go to the greek and we must know that some things we have accepted in this society is from satan deceiving even the elect...maariage is until death ..period..even if one commits adultry we are to show his mercy and forgiveness and reconcile..even if they leave we made a vow and we as believers must honor that and always leave the door for reconciliation open...dont say in deut it says we cant take one back that remarried..we dont live under the law...but we are to follow the commandments..read hosea if you need proof..mariage last till death boy if this was enforced in the church we wouldntr have divorce among believers..dont be deceived..trust God and his word..
---pat_m on 10/15/09


g//Like I said, you must utilize all of God's word not just the verses that taste good to you. And remember that a good tree can't bare bad fruit, so check your tree.

Totally agree, however, there is this little problem some have in not being able to rightly handling the word of truth as they seem to interpret it not in accordance to what the teachers the Lord has called into His church but in accordance to their own prejudice and lack of understanding.

2Ti 2:15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth.
---lee on 10/13/09


you just do not believe God as many others and only God can open ones blind sees not you or free massons
---steven-rem7000 on 10/9/09

If I didn't believe God, I would not give you his word. As miche gave it you still don't receive all of God's word.
Then you turn around and show the rotten fruit that you bare by calling someone not Christian.
I am not the one ignoring scripture.
Like I said, you must utilize all of God's word not just the verses that taste good to you. And remember that a good tree can't bare bad fruit, so check your tree.
---g on 10/13/09


Not if they have asked forgiveness for their first divorce.
---larry on 10/13/09


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g

don't know this calvin you are obessed with but maybe he is just someone you hate or just don't care for. It seems to me you have his bible and not God's word. And I am very falmilar with the word of God and knowing it WILL NOT return void. The Holy Spirit uses it to save "the gospel is the power of God UNTO salvation" that is the true gospel. And justice will be vindicated by it too.
you just do not believe God as many others and only God can open ones blind sees not you or free massons
---steven-rem7000 on 10/9/09


---steven-rem7000 on 10/6/09

Wrong again Steven.
Christ paid for the sins of the world.
I guess you dismiss what the herald John the Baptist said.

Peace means the same. It means to let them go, you are NOT HELD accountable. How much more explaination do you need when you are told by the man of God you aren't held acountable. By the way, I wish more men took their vows as serious as you do. BUT most don't or we would not have this discussion.
I believe miche provided you with the scripture because I read it. Kath gave you scripture that says Christ died for the whole world.
If the person breaks the vow, the other is not held accountable. God recognizes divorce so get over it and get the real word of God NOT calvins.
---g on 10/7/09


Mary,

Your husband broke the vow he made to you and GOD. He should carry this burden, not you. The consequence to his wickedness was your pain, suffering and grief. Jesus is here to carry this burden, and he is close to the pure in heart. Sadly, pain and suffering is often a reflection of those who encounter the spiritually sick. Those who do not obey Christ, will earn the wages of sin and that is death. Jesus is here to lift you and deliver you from this pain and suffering, trust in him with all of everything you have and god will fill your heart with his love. True life is in Christ, the rest is just deception. And, any man that divorces his wife, but for the cause of infidelity and remarries commits adultery. Gods message is given.
---wal_rev on 10/6/09


Part 2: Oh dear, I just realized how that one part may have sounded--the part about how my ex turned me into an alcoholic. Um, okay, it was me who became an alcoholic on my own but being treated so badly led me to wanting to turn to that first drink--a very bad idea on my part, I know.
---Mary on 10/6/09


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i do not know

I believe anyone who wants to advise will need more details to do so

try searching similar blocks on christianet and read scriptures provided to get a better view

But i will like to say that mima's answer is out of line with scripture

Christ paid for all sin but does not permit us to live in perpetual sin if we know something is sinful... actually Christ enables us to live the new life of overcoming sin....
---patie3447 on 10/6/09


g the pot calling the kettle black.

Christ paid for the sins of his people (not all people) past present and future.
Anyways my Christ did yes, even the sin of unbelief, which all believers have by nature or in their fallen' state.

A vow is a vow, if one breaks a vow, is the other is annulled?
Please show that Scripture and peace is not annulment. I am bound to my wife as long as she lives, whether she leaves me or not.
I made the vow before God, should I not kept it? Whether, or not someone else doesnt?
done with this blog
---steven-rem7000 on 10/6/09


wal-rev--what about when the man commits adultery? Surely she is not held responsible then for his adultery is she? Just wondering what you think, my ex cheated on me and treated me so badly I wound up becoming an alcoholic! It's not always her fault.
---Mary on 10/6/09


Okay Wal Rev,
What if the man divorces the woman?
Is she still held accountable?
Nope.
But anyway, Mima is right.
How many sins did Christ pay for?

wal rev, and steven,
you both need to go back and read ALL scripture concerning this matter. Then make a good Holy Spirit filled decision on the matter.
Do you hold a sin of the leaving spouse against the one who wanted to work it out?
God says NO!
Utilize the enire word of God not just the verses that tickle and agree with your side.
---g on 10/6/09


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Christians ARE judges in many respects here is just a couple. One might believe all religions are the same, BUT too properly distinguishes them one has to judge what the other believes. There is a religion that believes Christ died for all,BUT can not save none. They believe the different is ones faith, though they do not know faith is a command and a deed of the law. They do not and have not yet been taught of God Jn6:44..to come to the true and living God and Jesus Christ whom thou has sentJn17:3 The bible or God says.. try the spirits to SEE whom they are, Judge, judge and judge one must to know the truth. And the truth shall set you free!!! Yeah, one needs to know the TRUTH and who He is
---steven-rem7000 on 10/5/09


always with the law not the grace of love
How about the law of love. how about 1cor 7
14-16 if the unbeliever can't bear your christian life let him depart your not under bondage... if two people put god first and their mate second they will learn to love.
---jerry on 10/5/09


Yeep if they are divorced and remarried or married to a divorced person. they are to be called adulters. That's what God says
---steven-rem7000 on 10/5/09


This subject is controversy for sure. But this question of remarriage being a state of living in adultery constantly pounds and hounds many remarried people. When I was working as a Mississippi River pilot this question was the one most ask of me by my fellow pilots.
My answer to this question is another question, how many sins did the Lord Jesus Christ pay for the cross of Calvary????
---mima on 10/5/09


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For anyone one who has ever read the bible, the answer is YES.

Jesus taught, ANY WOMAN WHO DIVORCES her husband AND REMARRIES another man COMMITS ADULTERY. The answer is absolutely yes, god taught it, jesus taught it and the apostles. Check the book of proverbs, the adulteress is the opposite of a woman of god. Proverbs says she is so bad, that her mouth is a pit, and her feet lead to the grave. In fact, she destroys a mans spiritual soul. You can not be a christian, and live in adultery. You serve ONLY one master.
---wal_rev on 10/4/09


Carla, you only post the scripture that backs you up. What about the other Gospels that mention it?
& 1 Cor. chapter 7?
& Deut. 22 through 24?
Have you read all of these?
I ask because that is the marriage laws Christ was discussing with the pharisees.
We can't divorce for any reason. It has to be for adultery. And if it is, then we can get remarried.
We can remarry if an unbelieving spouse divorces us for no cause. Why can't you see?
Many have given scripture to the contrary. Many more knowledgable of this topic. Many that are humble.
Sister, Ill pray that God removes your prideful ways and soften your heart for fellow Christians who have suffered this and that you may forgive instead of judge.
---miche3754 on 8/18/09


miche,





Mat 19:3 The Pharisees also came unto him,tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?

Mat 19:9
And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

confirmed
---Carla3939 on 8/14/09


1.
Mar 10:10
And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same [matter].

Mar 10:11
And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.

Mar 10:12
And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.
Confirmed.


Mat 19:9
And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth
commit adultery.

Confirmed:
---Carla3939 on 8/14/09


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No carla.
Go and read Deut chapter 24 the first few verses.
Divorce is explained for a woman there.
The only thing Jesus changed about divorce is that we can't divorce for any reason. It must be for adultery.
God even divorced for adultery. He is going to get remarried to us.
Do you really think God would not allow us to get remarried when he is clearly getting remarried himself? NO.
We must look at the guide lines for divorce and remarriage in the Bible.
Some say the Bible doesn't talk about remarriage but it does. Or else it would not say in Duet. 24, that a woman was given a bill of divorcement and can go and be another man's wife. That sounds like remarriage to me.
---miche3754 on 8/14/09


I also believe that the Bible says one spouse is not allowed to divorce the other spouse for any reason other than for adultery. And also that ONLY the guiltless spouse is free to remarry BUT I could be wrong in my interpretation. However, if I am correct, then IF one does get a divorce for whatever reason and then remarry, then they do willfully commit sin 24/7 and can not repent of that constant sin I do not believe. The only way to get out of that sin is to divorce once again and stay unmarried. At least then they could repent of their occasional fornication.
---WaPa on 8/13/09


So a person who murders only has to repent all is forgiven and he can continue to murder? Am I missing something here not only me but the whole gospel of repentance!

If you turn from your sin how will you go right back and and return to the vomit?
what are you turning from the thought /act, what was the sin? How did you commit it? and how will you stop IT........???????????
---Carla3939 on 8/13/09


Elder, I will answer your questions

First,what consummates the marriage? A marriage is a covenant between two people and sexual intercourse consummates the marriage.

Next, if I murder my mate instead of divorcing can I remarry? NO,Thou shalt not kill is a sin and a crime, you'd be in jail and morally you should not remarry.

How do you meet nice "christian men" if you consider yourself still married? I work with a few Christian men and they are nice. STOP making something out of this that isn't there Elder. I consider you a Godly man, why are you picking on me?
Is that what ended your marriage? NO, that's NOT what ended my marriage. Domestic Violence-husband beating me up is what ended it.
---anon on 8/13/09


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She recognised that he told her the truth that in actual fact she was lying about her affairs and was shown to be in error for having more than one husband. The Scripture shows Jesus in line with the New Testament that you are only allowed one husband, any other is an addition of having too many husbands and indeed you are only allowed one.- carla

Actually, She told the truth to Jesus saying she had 5 husbands. Then Jesus said, that was true and that the man she was with now was not her husband. He told her she was forgiven, go and sin no more.
That meant that she was to do one of 2 things- Either marry he man, or leave him since he was not her husband.
Jesus recognized all of her marriages though- See Deut. ch.24
---miche3754 on 8/13/09


In Deut. ch.24, the husband divorces the wife just because she is not pleasing to him. He divorces her and she is allowed to remarry.
Man used to be able to divorce his wife for any reason because Moses made a law that allowed it. Jesus said NO! Only for adultery can you divorce.
If you look at the Deut. 24 in light of what Jesus said, neither can divorce except for adultery and if thats the case, Deut. 24 says yes a woman can go be another mans wife, which means REMARRY!
Jesus changed only one thing. No divorce except for adultery.
Remarriage is allowed if the divorce was biblical. If they did before coming to Christ, they were in sin anyway. Once they repent, ALL is forgiven. So, may not be constant adultery.
---miche3754 on 8/13/09


She recognised that he told her the truth that in actual fact she was lying about her affairs and was shown to be in error for having more than one husband. The Scripture shows Jesus in line with the New Testament that you are only allowed one husband, any other is an addition of having too many husbands and indeed you are only allowed one.

He demonstrates forgiveness and the scripture tells that she told everyone to come and meet the one that was spoken of[the messiah] she recognised Jesus and he told her because of her willingness's to change she was the type of soul that will serve God in spirit and in truth and that God sort such to worship him.
---Carla3939 on 8/12/09


Cluny:
Fornication is carnal activity outside of marriage / concubinage including all illicit activities. For the Jews, fornication kept secret was considered prostitution. Adultery signifies a man who has relations with another mans wife, or a woman who has relations outside of her appropriate matrimony. The verses are in Deuteronomy 22:13-24 (Matthew 5:32, 19:9). A woman defrauds her husband by falsely presenting herself as a virgin. H2181 Zanah means an adulteress or a harlot.
Exodus 20:14, Leviticus 18:20, 20:10, Deuteronomy 22:22-24, relations with another mans fiance or wife.
Numbers 5:12-31, trial of an accused wife by a jealous husband.
Exodus 22:16-17, Deuteronomy 22:28-29 relations with a unbetrothed virgin.
---Glenn on 8/12/09


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The difference with a Murderer is he/she stopped the Murdering of innocent souls. The Adulterer just keeps on with His/Her Adultery!

That's the sin.
---Carla3939 on 8/10/09

This train of thought insinuates that the person can remove sin by themselves through their own actions AND that Jesus won't forgive either.
Committing another sin will not cover an existing sin, if its sin at all. It depends on the circumstances surrounding the divorce.
Did it happen before they came to Christ? was one an unbeliever that left? did one commit adultery?
Jesus forgave the woman at the well for having 5 husbands, AND he recognized all 5 of her marriages too. Jesus didn't even call her an adulteress. Some things to really think about.
---miche3754 on 8/10/09


When Christians understand that the sin in any instance is about change then will their eyes be open to the realisation that a murderer murdered and stop.

Adulterers, not fully understanding whether through misinterpretation of scriptures or ignorance will regardless of not accepting the word that a man/woman is indeed married if [fornication] did not take place,Commit Adultery if they remarry. Mat 19:9

The difference with a Murderer is he/she stopped the Murdering of innocent souls. The Adulterer just keeps on with His/Her Adultery!

That's the sin.
---Carla3939 on 8/10/09


So what your saying is that remarriage is an unforgiveable sin.....NOT!!!!!!

Dude,, more original language study & exegesis is well needed on your part
---Shane on 8/8/09


In Matthew 19:8-12, when Jesus said that people could not get divorced for any reason other than adultery, His disciples said it is better not to get married. He replied that not all can accept this teaching, but in the next verse, He says if one is able to accept it, he should.
---Todd on 8/7/09


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I will ask mima and anon the same question I have asked over and over. I do this mainly because of the statements made by anon about Christians who understand marriage and divorce and the issues involved. First, anon, just because you do not understand an issue completely does not mean someone else doesn't. Your lack of understanding does not make me carnal.
First, what consummates or finalises the marriage? Next, if I murder my mate instead of divorcing can I remarry? After all, they are dead so I should be able to.
How do you meet nice "christian men" if you consider yourself still married? Is that what ended your marriage?
I wonder after all of tyhe blogs on this issue it is rehashed again.
---Elder on 8/8/09


\\ Jesus prohibited divorce except for adultery, that included lying about ones virginity.\\

Please give book, chapter, and verse where Jesus said that lying about one's virginity (presumably you mean the lack of it) is adultery.
---Cluny on 8/8/09


Jesus prohibited divorce except for adultery, that included lying about ones virginity. The non adulterer could remarry. The adulterer was not free to marry, and anyone marrying one is entering a prohibited marriage. A divorce without cause, was no divorce, and so, another marriage was a type of bigamy. The exception is in 1Corinthians 7:15. If the unbeliever departs, the Christian can remarry because the marriage was not 'in the Lord'. Please read Matthew 5:31-32, 19:3-12, Mark 10:2-12, Luke 16:18. Both Matthew 19:9 and 1Corinthians 7:27-28 allow remarriage.
Deuteronomy 22:17-19, 28-29, 24:1-4, Proverbs 2:17 (forsaketh husband), Isaiah 54:4-8, Jeremiah 3:1, Malachi 2:14-16, 1Corinthians 6:15-16, 7:10-17, 27, 1Timothy 3:2, 12, Titus 1:6.
---Glenn on 8/7/09


It would certainly depend on the circumstances, for one thing, I was cheated on by my exes so I'm not the guilty party if I re-marry--which I believe I will be doing in the next several months, by New Year's if things go according to plan lol :D
---Mary on 8/7/09


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Very good question. YES. According to the Bible-yes, if a person gets divorced and it is NOT due to adultery, they are being adulterous by marrying someone else, according to the Bible.
---amand6348 on 8/7/09


That's a very good question. It does say in the Bible that you can get a divorce. It doesn't clearly talk about remarriage.
---stephen on 8/7/09


You know mi ma this is such a controversary subject and I notice on this site, many questions are asked about re-marriage.

Why is that so important to people? Is that all people desire to do, is remarry? It's such an idolatrous subject because all people want to know is if they can remarry.

I believe what Jesus said in Matthew & Mark, Luke and John about remarrying and committing adultery.

I have been married, now am divorced due to an abusive marriage and I have no desire whatsoever to remarry. I have met nice Christian men and would not remarry just because of what Jesus said about remarrying and adultery, they go hand in hand. But carnal Christians will argue that it's okay to remarry, I don't believe it is.
---anon on 8/7/09


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